Recommend an Android Box that runs XBMC - [No copyrighted material]

Allyall · 03-03-2014 9:35pm

BenThere wrote: »

I just don't like people calling into question the integrity of an article written in good faith (as far as I can tell) by an independent voluntary non profit XBMC user support group. You accused them of being paid to write the article, offered nothing to substantiate your claim and when pulled up on it (and presumably still have nothing to substantiate your accusation) you throw your toys out of the pram and say you no longer want to talk about it.
If I was in your shoes I would hold my hands up admit I made a stupid mistake and move on. Everyone makes mistakes, it's how you deal with them when you're found out/called out which defines the type of person you are.

Over to you.

I stand by what I said, you go to XBMCHUB and you are drowned in adverts, I don't know where you got this not-for-profit, and that the article was written in good faith. XBMCHUB may not advertise in their fusion installer, but they do clearly make profit advertising devices on their sites.
The split may have been over others going their own directon with different addons and adverts inside them, but the others weren't as clean cut as you are making out. There are many reasons I don't want to discuss it (As i have said from the start - I didn't think it was going to be such a sticking point), and many places anyone could find out what was or wasn;t paid for.

They knew before that article was written that AC3, DTS and MPEG2 could not be played on the OUYA, for many that was a huge reason not to purchase, having to convert tons of movies. That was long before SBMC.

Nothing thrown out of the pram, believe it or not, you believing me whether or not an article was a paid article didn't really have me freaking out..

Allyall · 03-03-2014 9:39pm

14murphy wrote: »

I bought an mk908ii with remote from geekbuying.com

Quick question, whats the difference xbmc and xbmc-hub and which does what ?

XBMC is a Media Centre that allows you to play Music, Movies, Stream Live TV, and more - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbmc

XBMCHUB are a group that utilise XBMC and build repositories to install inside of it.

Begin by downloading XBMC from XBMC.org android, and installing it.

BenEadir · 03-03-2014 10:08pm

Allyall wrote: »

I stand by what I said, you go to XBMCHUB and you are drowned in adverts, I don't know where you got this not-for-profit,

I get it from the following generally accepted formula:-

Revenue less Costs = Profit.

If you are generating revenue to contribute to the cost of running a website, hosting costs etc you are not making profit, you are a not for profit in the same way lots of voluntary organisations from local drama societies or football clubs to international charities who generate revenue to cover operational costs are no for profits. BTW, I really don't know what you mean by "drowned in adverts". Click on www.xbmchub.com and tell me how many adverts you see on the home page? I see a grand total of ZERO!! Are you Walter Mitty in disguise???

You keep alluding to the fact that there are "many places anyone could find out what was or wasn;t paid for." Instead of repetitive verbose posting why don't you just provide links to these many places and I'll happily accept you were right? I would genuinely appreciate that as I have until now used XBMCHUB as a source of impartial info. If they have been secretly been paid mouthpieces all along I'd sure appreciate knowing that but I'm guessing you'll come up with some other reason for not standing over the claim you made.

BTW, it's absolutely not true to say that AC3, DTS and MPEG2 cannot be played on the OUYA. The latest official OUYA store version of XBMC has had that functionality removed due to a licensing issue. Prior to that version the aforementioned functionality worked fine and since then anyone sideloading XBMC or SPMC (which is as tricky as loading an APK from a USB stick) has had full functionality.

You really should check your facts before pronouncing on these matters.

Ben

Allyall · 03-03-2014 10:31pm

BenThere wrote: »

BTW, it's absolutely not true to say that AC3, DTS and MPEG2 cannot be played on the OUYA. The latest official OUYA store version of XBMC has had that functionality removed due to a licensing issue. Prior to that version the aforementioned functionality worked fine and since then anyone sideloading XBMC or SPMC (which is as tricky as loading an APK from a USB stick) has had full functionality.

You really should check your facts before pronouncing on these matters.

Ben

When that article was written those issues existed, and they knew it. Out of the box.
I never said they cannot be played.

As for zero ads, maybe now, I haven't ben there in a while. It wass drowned in ads.

You're like a dog with a bone, I've said I have no intention of discussing that any further (I think this is the 4th time).
Whether or not you believe me is inconsequential.

dubrov · 03-03-2014 10:34pm

BenThere wrote: »

BTW, I really don't know what you mean by "drowned in adverts". Click on www.xbmchub.com and tell me how many adverts you see on the home page? I see a grand total of ZERO!! Are you Walter Mitty in disguise???

Ben

You must have some sort of ad-blocker running as I get three large banners when I go to the site's home page.

BenEadir · 03-03-2014 11:00pm

Allyall wrote: »

When that article was written those issues existed, and they knew it. Out of the box.
I never said they cannot be played.

so what EXACTLY does "They knew before that article was written that AC3, DTS and MPEG2 could not be played on the OUYA" mean then?

BenEadir · 03-03-2014 11:02pm

dubrov wrote: »

You must have some sort of ad-blocker running as I get three large banners when I go to the site's home page.

I think you're right there dubrov, I do run an AdBlocker on Chrome.

My mistake.

BenEadir · 03-03-2014 11:30pm

Guilty as charged, I run an ad blocker on my browser, what can I say? It's obviously far more serious than accusing an author of being paid to write an article without any evidence to substantiate the claim and leagues more serious than stating in black and white that the OUYA can't process DTS etc then shortly afterwards denying making such a claim even though it it's there for everyone to see.

You've a special talent there Allyall.

Allyall · 04-03-2014 4:17am

BenThere wrote: »

Guilty as charged, I run an ad blocker on my browser, what can I say? It's obviously far more serious than accusing an author of being paid to write an article without any evidence to substantiate the claim and leagues more serious than stating in black and white that the OUYA can't process DTS etc then shortly afterwards denying making such a claim even though it it's there for everyone to see.

You've a special talent there Allyall.

Sorry, had to go out to meet somebody.

I said the OUYA could not, via XBMC at the time, out of the box. (As we were discussing XBMC)
EDIT - I NEVER said could not Process.

What happened? were you dropped?

BenEadir · 04-03-2014 8:13am

Allyall wrote: »

Sorry, had to go out to meet somebody.

I said the OUYA could not, via XBMC at the time, out of the box. (As we were discussing XBMC)
EDIT - I NEVER said could not Process.

What happened? were you dropped?

Your attempted revisionism to prop up your failed argument is pathetic. Here's what your actually said "They knew before that article was written that AC3, DTS and MPEG2 could not be played on the OUYA, for many that was a huge reason not to purchase, having to convert tons of movies. That was long before SBMC."

Where did you state "out of the box"? All you said was that AC3 etc "could not be played on the OUYA" which is 100% wrong. Even if you had stated "out of the box" you would still have been wrong. XBMC ran perfectly straight out of the box and continues to do so.

I'm bored with you now but glad I took the time to expose your contributions for what they are.

My work here is done, I won't be responding to any more of your nonsense.

Big Nelly · 04-03-2014 9:59am

BenThere wrote: »

My work here is done, I won't be responding to any more of your nonsense.

Hopefully it is and you will stop ruining the thread for everyone else......

So you bought an OUYA and you think it is great......good for you.....

But can I just say Allyall has given some great advice on this thread and helped a lot of people and I hope he/she continues with there contribution because it is a lot more helpful than some other people(not naming anyone in particular:P)

Dozen Wicked Words · 04-03-2014 2:20pm

Regardless of all the various discussions about it, its merits, or otherwise, the Ouya definitely looks like a smart bit of kit, that is capable of running XBMC as well as its gaming option, so thought it might be of interest to some that it is currently just £89.99 at Game.co.uk at the moment that includes £10 credit for the Ouya store too.

It seems like a good deal, compared to Amazon or Ebay at the moment. They also have pre owned for £74.99, which again, doesn't seem too bad. £2.95 postage to Ireland according to their website, or maybe Parcel Motel for the usual €3.50?

Link to Game.co.uk HERE

Hope its of use to someone.

Big Nelly · 04-03-2014 2:28pm

Dozen Wicked Words wrote: »

Regardless of all the various discussions about it, its merits, or otherwise, the Ouya definitely looks like a smart bit of kit, that is capable of running XBMC as well as its gaming option, so thought it might be of interest to some that it is currently just £89.99 at Game.co.uk at the moment that includes £10 credit for the Ouya store too.

It seems like a good deal, compared to Amazon or Ebay at the moment. They also have pre owned for £74.99, which again, doesn't seem too bad. £2.95 postage to Ireland according to their website, or maybe Parcel Motel for the usual €3.50?

Link to Game.co.uk HERE

Hope its of use to someone.

Not a bad deal......

Big Nelly · 04-03-2014 9:44pm

Hi Guys

Mate is looking for box so I am thinking of selling my T-R42 which has the 3188T processor and go with something which has the proper version. No real reason apart from I like to go fast! :P

Any idea's of what is out there and will run? and I know the Ouya has a quad core:P

Allyall · 05-03-2014 12:19pm

BenThere wrote: »

I'm bored with you now but glad I took the time to expose your contributions for what they are.

My work here is done, I won't be responding to any more of your nonsense.

Lol. Derp Columbo. "My work here is done.".

My contributions to xbmchub articles has been exposed.. :eek:

Tranquil PC are selling the Intel NUC (DN2820FYKH) for £84.99 + £5 to Parcel Motel.

It's not a powerhouse, and works out at roughly €135 delivered, but given the price and that you're not limited to what you can install, it may be worth a punt for a few people. I bought one yesterday for something else, but thought it was a good price.

More info - http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=Intel_NUC

Cantona's Collars · 05-03-2014 4:50pm

Big Nelly wrote: »

But can I just say Allyall has given some great advice on this thread and helped a lot of people and I hope he/she continues with there contribution because it is a lot more helpful than some other people(not naming anyone in particular:P)

+1,he's provided some valuable & excellent advice.Thanks to him I ordered a box which will do everything I need it to.

neacy69 · 05-03-2014 5:02pm

Big Nelly wrote: »

But can I just say Allyall has given some great advice on this thread and helped a lot of people and I hope he/she continues with there contribution because it is a lot more helpful than some other people(not naming anyone in particular:P)

+1

as has Ben There so lets put down the handbags and get back to the XBMC business

tomdempsey200 · 05-03-2014 5:18pm

is there a basic free app to control android tv from my smartphone?

I need something to shutdown android etc. when I'm done with xbmc

jonski · 05-03-2014 5:41pm

Is there an addon for the RTE player that comes with instruction , that is made for simpletons , that could be added to XBMC on the OUYA .

Blade · 05-03-2014 5:50pm

tomdempsey200 wrote: »

is there a basic free app to control android tv from my smartphone?

I need something to shutdown android etc. when I'm done with xbmc

Droidmote is good but not free, It's cheap though. The server side device (TV box) needs to be rooted.

Blade · 05-03-2014 5:55pm

jonski wrote: »

Is there an addon for the RTE player that comes with instruction , that is made for simpletons , that could be added to XBMC on the OUYA .

Better than that, Mossy's Irish TV add-on does all the Irish players and Aertv live channels too. Just Google it...

dealhunter1985 · 06-03-2014 11:52am

I'm using a remote on my android phone called Yatse which I find excellent
I cannot remember if its possible to shut down XBMC with it however.

tomdempsey200 · 06-03-2014 11:54am

dealhunter1985 wrote: »

I'm using a remote on my android phone called Yatse which I find excellent
I cannot remember if its possible to shut down XBMC with it however.

I've got xbmc remote
I couldn't figure out yatse

dealhunter1985 · 06-03-2014 11:57am

tomdempsey200 wrote: »

I've got xbmc remote
I couldn't figure out yatse

I had yatse working in minutes.
I found a video on youtube explaining how to set it up.

tomdempsey200 · 06-03-2014 12:00pm

i tred lanmote lite server but it wasn't working

14murphy · 06-03-2014 11:57pm

Guys I bought the mk908ii bundle of geekbuying.com. Is it easy to get the airmouse and box to connect through Bluetooth or will i need to wire a mouse first ?

tomdempsey200 · 07-03-2014 12:36am

14murphy wrote: »

Guys I bought the mk908ii bundle of geekbuying.com. Is it easy to get the airmouse and box to connect through Bluetooth or will i need to wire a mouse first ?

should be

what's the heat sink like on these

I bought a stick but I have to fit a major heatsink.. won't run 5 minutes without on xbmc

14murphy · 07-03-2014 12:37am

tomdempsey200 wrote: »

should be

what's the heat sink like on these

I bought a stick but I have to fit a major heatsink.. won't run 5 minutes without on xbmc

Supposedly its fairly decent. A step up from the original mk908

tomdempsey200 · 07-03-2014 12:42am

14murphy wrote: »

Supposedly its fairly decent. A step up from the original mk908

i stuck a small heatsink on mine today

it got too hot

Im going to stick a big copper one on it

connectivity is easy with these

a powered USB hub is handy for peripherals.. just don't get the cheap Chinese jobs.. they won't power the stuff

you can connect ethernet with a USB rj45 adapter easily

tomdempsey200 · 08-03-2014 1:01am

hi

I have Yatsee on my Android phone controlling xbmc on my Android tv stick

All seems well except the power actions don't work except for quit

any idea what the problem might be.. I need the Android shutdown to save an extra remote?

Allyall · 08-03-2014 4:05am

tomdempsey200 wrote: »

hi

I have Yatsee on my Android phone controlling xbmc on my Android tv stick

All seems well except the power actions don't work except for quit

any idea what the problem might be.. I need the Android shutdown to save an extra remote?

Yatse had a few updates recently and one today. It is possible they might be affecting it. It may also be a problem with the version of XBMC you are controlling, have you tried it on a PC or another version of XBMC?

EDIT..

On a sidenote, regarding your earlier post above, Try an Old 2 pence, or a current 5c 2c 5c sandwich. They work as a great heatsink, and only cost 9c or less (I think. I have no idea what a 2 pence is worth.

)

tomdempsey200 · 08-03-2014 10:24am

Allyall wrote: »

Yatse had a few updates recently and one today. It is possible they might be affecting it. It may also be a problem with the version of XBMC you are controlling, have you tried it on a PC or another version of XBMC?

EDIT..

On a sidenote, regarding your earlier post above, Try an Old 2 pence, or a current 5c 2c 5c sandwich. They work as a great heatsink, and only cost 9c or less (I think. I have no idea what a 2 pence is worth. )

thanks I'll try those suggestions on the Yatsee.. and report back
I never thought to use coins.. are they usually enough and do you use thermal paste?

I tried a heatsink first but it was hot
and shutting off so ended up with a heatsink fan and paste.. it's the small ALU heatsink /fan that's on pc motherboards
The copper will presumably be better?

micks_address · 08-03-2014 10:34am

tomdempsey200 wrote: »

i stuck a small heatsink on mine today

it got too hot

Im going to stick a big copper one on it

connectivity is easy with these

a powered USB hub is handy for peripherals.. just don't get the cheap Chinese jobs.. they won't power the stuff

you can connect ethernet with a USB rj45 adapter easily

Anyone looking for a usb to ethernet adapter I bought a linksys one from adverts yesterday thinking it was a wifi key.. It's new in box unopened

tomdempsey200 · 08-03-2014 10:36am

what do I backup if I want to keep my existing addons and sources?

I want to try out a different version

Allyall · 08-03-2014 11:29am

tomdempsey200 wrote: »

thanks I'll try those suggestions on the Yatsee.. and report back
I never thought to use coins.. are they usually enough and do you use thermal paste?
?

Yep, use thermal paste. An older coin is better (more copper) than the new coins. An old penny might suit you better.
Some of the cheap ones are terrible, and a coin is handy if you don't have a heatsink lying around, or find the one you have, to be useless. Obviously coins aren't ideal, but they can do a great job.

Try super backup for backing up.

tomdempsey200 · 08-03-2014 1:04pm

Allyall wrote: »

Yep, use thermal paste. An older coin is better (more copper) than the new coins. An old penny might suit you better.
Some of the cheap ones are terrible, and a coin is handy if you don't have a heatsink lying around, or find the one you have, to be useless. Obviously coins aren't ideal, but they can do a great job.

Try super backup for backing up.

I'll prob leave well enough alone for now
the new coins mightn't be great
I was surprised the ALU heatsink was overheating before I added fan

keith16 · 08-03-2014 6:18pm

Picked up an MK808 B.

Been playing around with it and it's working well so far. Got XBMC installed and have a couple of questions.

If I put media files on memory key, XBMC doesn't seem to see the memory key. Is there a better way to transfer and or stream downloaded media? What about streaming content (photos / videos) from my phone?

I really like the add ons for XBMC for video streaming (youtube, rte player etc). Where can I find more of these add ons or are there any you would recommend?

Thanks!

iba · 08-03-2014 6:31pm

keith16 wrote: »

Picked up an MK808 B.

Been playing around with it and it's working well so far. Got XBMC installed and have a couple of questions.

If I put media files on memory key, XBMC doesn't seem to see the memory key. Is there a better way to transfer and or stream downloaded media? What about streaming content (photos / videos) from my phone?

I really like the add ons for XBMC for video streaming (youtube, rte player etc). Where can I find more of these add ons or are there any you would recommend?

Thanks!

I find this guys youtube videos very good for teaching about how to and what repos to add:

http://www.youtube.com/user/dawild1504?feature=watch

Blade · 08-03-2014 10:12pm

keith16 wrote: »

If I put media files on memory key, XBMC doesn't seem to see the memory key.

It should do, you might be looking in the wrong place as it has a weird directory structure. Try looking in Root filesystem -> mnt -> usb_storage and possibly two subfolders below this again as is the case with mine.

keith16 · 08-03-2014 11:05pm

iba wrote: »

I find this guys youtube videos very good for teaching about how to and what repos to add:

http://www.youtube.com/user/dawild1504?feature=watch

Blade wrote: »

It should do, you might be looking in the wrong place as it has a weird directory structure. Try looking in Root filesystem -> mnt -> usb_storage and possibly two subfolders below this again as is the case with mine.

Fantastic, that's a great help.

One other quick n00b question. I am using remotedroid through my phone to navigate around. I'm also using yatse to control XBMC.

Each time I turn on my android tv, I have to configure the IP settings in both remotes on my phone to get them working.

Is there anyway I can use a static IP so I don't have to do this each time?

citytillidie · 12-03-2014 10:01pm

Noob question.

Would this be a good deal and would it be easy to install XBMC on it
http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/raspberry-pi-board-and-starter-kit-r45pi

iba · 12-03-2014 10:18pm

citytillidie wrote: »

Noob question.

Would this be a good deal and would it be easy to install XBMC on it
http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/raspberry-pi-board-and-starter-kit-r45pi

I do not know if it is a good deal but you can install xbmc on it

tomdempsey200 · 12-03-2014 10:25pm

not sure about the deal but probably not the handiest way to get xbmc anyhow

Allyall · 12-03-2014 10:32pm

Breaking down the prices and wired keyboard and mouse, It doesn't seem like a good price. Look around on Amazon/Ebay/Argos and you'd probably get a Wireless keyboard and mouse along with the rest of those items cheaper.

michael999999 · 12-03-2014 10:35pm

citytillidie wrote: »

Noob question.

Would this be a good deal and would it be easy to install XBMC on it
http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/raspberry-pi-board-and-starter-kit-r45pi

I have the raspberry pi, and i have only been messing about with it. But it wouldn't be the easiest thing to install xbmc on.

I'm using an MX android box running xbmc perfectly!

citytillidie · 12-03-2014 10:56pm

Cheers guys, maybe go with something easier to work with

Lovely Bloke · 13-03-2014 9:54am

I'm going to get the MK908II bundle from Geekbuyer - can anyone who's dealt with these people say how long delivery is?

I'm going to remove the game controller as I'm not a gamer, so have no use for it.

Also, with XBMC, is it just a matter of installing it and adding the repos?

WeleaseWoderick · 13-03-2014 10:28am

Baldy Conscience wrote: »

I'm going to get the MK908II bundle from Geekbuyer - can anyone who's dealt with these people say how long delivery is?

I'm going to remove the game controller as I'm not a gamer, so have no use for it.

Also, with XBMC, is it just a matter of installing it and adding the repos?

I got the same bundle before Christmas but went for the express delivery. It took about 10 days from what I recall.

When I initially installed XBMC on the stock firmware, the picture was a little jittery. After getting fed up with that, I installed the custom Finless firmware and a customised version of XBMC called JustXBMC. Works flawlessly now.

The guide for the custom firmware installation is on the Geekbuying blog and I think the link for JustXBMC was in a thread on Boards.

In terms of adding the repos, I have found the Fusion installer (google it), to give all the ones I want to use.

Also, I would suggest that the AirMouse that comes in the bundle isnt much use and that a wireless keyboard such as the Logitech K400 is a far better way to go.

iba · 13-03-2014 10:34am

WeleaseWoderick wrote: »

I got the same bundle before Christmas but went for the express delivery. It took about 10 days from what I recall.

When I initially installed XBMC on the stock firmware, the picture was a little jittery. After getting fed up with that, I installed the custom Finless firmware and a customised version of XBMC called JustXBMC. Works flawlessly now.

The guide for the custom firmware installation is on the Geekbuying blog and I think the link for JustXBMC was in a thread on Boards.

In terms of adding the repos, I have found the Fusion installer (google it), to give all the ones I want to use.

Also, I would suggest that the AirMouse that comes in the bundle isnt much use and that a wireless keyboard such as the Logitech K400 is a far better way to go.

Hi
I have justxbmc on my box too but I did not put the finless. Rom. Should I and what are its benefits please?

I also got the logitech keyboard. I think it's the k300 for £30 on amazon.

Cheers

Big Nelly · 13-03-2014 10:49am

Baldy Conscience wrote: »

I'm going to get the MK908II bundle from Geekbuyer - can anyone who's dealt with these people say how long delivery is?

I'm going to remove the game controller as I'm not a gamer, so have no use for it.

Also, with XBMC, is it just a matter of installing it and adding the repos?

I got standard delivery, ordered on 23 Jan and delivered on 14th of Feb, think it was about 4-5 days after order before it was actually shipped....that was without getting caught in VAT land....just had sticker on it saying it was worth 20 dollers

Recommend an Android Box that runs XBMC - [No copyrighted material]

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