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Amiko Alien 2 Triple Tuner Combobox

  • 21-07-2012 2:57pm
    #1
    championc
    Registered Users Posts: 6,180 ✭✭✭


    Hi All,

    Looks like these are just out. I'm very tempted since I have a Panny G20B TV and so can only really record what I'm watching but with a Olympics and the 24 HD channels, The tripple tuner version is fitted with 2 x DVB-S2's and 1 x DVB-T. I know I'll have plenty recording and mo re importantly, overlapping, so I reckon I could be recording more than one channel simultaneously.
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    Has anyone got one of these ? Would be interested in any opinions. BTW, I assume I would simply run two cables from a Quad LNB to each of the two Tuner connections or do I need to get a Quattro LNB & Multiswitch ?


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  • #2
    Ronnie Raygun
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,351 ✭✭✭Ronnie Raygun


    2 cables from a quad would be fine.


  • #3
    STB
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭STB


    Also known as the Fulan 7162 that I was talking about earlier in the year. The Spark software allows for dual boot sequences.

    €250, not bad thought they would be a lot more. Disappointing that there is no CI Slot on these.

    Tele satellites Review: PDF


  • #4
    Compton
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,157 ✭✭✭Compton


    Looks like an interesting box. I have the 8820 combo from the same company and I am very happy with it, disappointed this wasn't out earlier or I would have went for it. Seems to have some nice features.. not sure what the enigma would be like on it? (Wonder if you can use images from the likes of vu+?)


  • #5
    STB
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭STB


    You may also wish to know that SAB have a triple tuner based on the same Chipset (ST 7162) which also has the Spark firmware.

    Its called the Sab Unix Triple HD

    Its approx €199 with the third tuner.

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    Spec: http://www.sabsatellite.nl/new-products/558/sab-unix-triple-hd


  • #6
    STB
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭STB


    Also consider the Golden Media Spark TRIPLEX

    Same Chipset and Spark based Software. Like the Amiko & Sab (all Fulan 7162 boxes) No CI Slot, 2 Conax CA only.

    €169.

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  • #7
    uck51js9zml2yt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    Who supplies these boxes?

    Am I right in thinking they are Combo's?


  • #8
    Sponge Bob
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    Does 'Nig' come with Freesat 'Extensions' to automate picking the Freesat channels up.


  • #9
    Sam Russell
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 19,862 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    Does anyone know if these boxes have Mheg5? ...Or what chipset they use?

    It would be very good if it had an internal HDD.

    It uses Linux, so does that mean it can be used to read the Freesat EPG?

    Looks interesting.


  • #10
    Rock Paper Scissors
    Registered Users Posts: 811 ✭✭✭Rock Paper Scissors


    i would also like to know who supplies these boxes

    more importantly is there good images/support for them like the VU+, dream boxes etc?


  • #11
    STB
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭STB


    Sam Russell wrote: »
    Does anyone know if these boxes have Mheg5? ...Or what chipset they use?

    It would be very good if it had an internal HDD.

    It uses Linux, so does that mean it can be used to read the Freesat EPG?

    Looks interesting.

    They are based on the ST 7162 chip. CPU runs at 540mhz. The Spark software is written by Fulan which is all Picons and apps.

    Yes you can run other Linux images, but you cant just stick a VU+Duo image on it. Theere will be similar linux E2 images compiled for the box. Thats the whole idea with the dual boot options of Spark software/Chip match.

    Wall GUI
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    Freesat mimicing like Crossepg etc. It wont autotune, there is still manual interaction. MHEG5. I dunno yet but given it has HBBTV, I would say it is a possibility.

    All the boxes are clones from OEM, Fulan.


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  • #12
    championc
    Registered Users Posts: 6,180 ✭✭✭championc


    Can someone just confirm that on these, they can stream channels out over the Ethernet interface ? And assuming you can, can any channels be viewed irrespective of what channel the device currently has on it front panel display ?

    If I want to record two satellite channels simultaneously, can I still go with a quad LNB setup or should I consider the Quattro and Multiswitch route ?

    BTW, can these record two Saorview programmes simultaneously ?


  • #13
    19hunters
    Registered Users Posts: 13 ✭19hunters


    The SAB looks a better looking box but bit dearer than others. They also do a nice qwerty keyboard

    http://www.sabsatellite.nl/sab-unix-f-solo/532/sab-mini-wireless-keyboard-a802

    Been looking for a box like this before I change over to combi stuff.

    Next where to buy??


  • #14
    championc
    Registered Users Posts: 6,180 ✭✭✭championc


    I bought a keyboard like this off eBay a year ago. Just search for Wireless Mini Keyboard.


  • #15
    PogMoThoin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,874 ✭✭✭✭PogMoThoin


    19hunters wrote: »
    The SAB looks a better looking box but bit dearer than others. They also do a nice qwerty keyboard

    http://www.sabsatellite.nl/sab-unix-f-solo/532/sab-mini-wireless-keyboard-a802

    Been looking for a box like this before I change over to combi stuff.

    Next where to buy??

    Amiko do the same mini keyboard. These are all clones of the Rii, the original Rii (if you can find one these days that's not a clone) is of much higher quality


  • #16
    Zardoz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,878 ✭✭✭Zardoz


    Good to see some twin tuner satellite receivers reaching the market at a reasonable price.
    If they can get some decent Enigma 2 support then they would be a real contender.

    Its ridiculous that there isnt a decent twin tuner enigma 2 box for under 200 euro ,the Vu+Duo has been the only real option for the last few years but it cost 400 euro.
    Its down to 300 euro now but its still too expensive .
    Hopefully this will shake the market up.


  • #17
    Onikage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,451 ✭✭✭Onikage


    championc wrote: »
    Can someone just confirm that on these, they can stream channels out over the Ethernet interface ?

    It's got a linux OS so I imagine it's more than possible


  • #18
    matthewseaton
    Registered Users Posts: 1 ✭matthewseaton


    You can buy the sab one at zintek in tallaght. I know they got a few in I got one and paid 199. Still playing around with it so will keep everyone posted or if you need to try anything let me know. But bare in mind I'm a little new to all this


  • #19
    championc
    Registered Users Posts: 6,180 ✭✭✭championc


    I've been trying to find some European Fourms for these (well the Amiko Alien 2) because Google searches lead you to ones where they are generally talking about the NA version (North America).

    I've found two issues so far:-
    1. If you put into Standby, Timer Events will NOT take it out of Standby so your programmes will not be recorded
    2. If you Fast Forward while watching some previously recorded programme, it will not go back to normal playing again.

    EDIT: I found http://www.sparkfans.net


  • #20
    b318isp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,638 ✭✭✭b318isp


    Can I confirm the DVB-T tuner picks up the Saorview channels?


  • #21
    championc
    Registered Users Posts: 6,180 ✭✭✭championc


    b318isp wrote: »
    Can I confirm the DVB-T tuner picks up the Saorview channels?

    Yes since box being sold by Irish sellers.


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  • #22
    Sir Oxman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    matthewseaton wrote: »
    You can buy the sab one at zintek in tallaght. I know they got a few in I got one and paid 199. Still playing around with it so will keep everyone posted or if you need to try anything let me know. But bare in mind I'm a little new to all this


    Is there rytec or any other xml epg support on these boxes?
    No full EPG would be a deal breaker for me.

    EDIT: Finally got a few websites that confirm crossepg works on an enigma2 image on tehse boxes.

    Might head up to Tallaght tomorrow to buy one, any feedback by anyone on the SAB Triple tuner (or SAB boxes in general?)


    Thanks


  • #23
    dubber
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 355 ✭✭dubber


    Anyone get this up an running with crossepg yet?


  • #24
    PogMoThoin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,874 ✭✭✭✭PogMoThoin


    Picked up one of these for myself the other day and only got to install it today as it needed another feed from the dish. After getting through sorting a basic channel list I'm gutted to realise that the optical audio out isn't working, which I badly need as I don't use the crappy TV speakers at all.


  • #25
    Bozacke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 301 ✭✭Bozacke


    Can anyone confirm that this or any of the combo boxes are FreeSat as opposed to FTA. I'm assuming this is FTA, which means it doesn't have a 7 day EPG and you can't do serial record. If this isn't, are there any Fresat\Saorview combo boxes?


  • #26
    STB
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭STB


    Bozacke wrote: »
    Can anyone confirm that this or any of the combo boxes are FreeSat as opposed to FTA. I'm assuming this is FTA, which means it doesn't have a 7 day EPG and you can't do serial record. If this isn't, are there any Fresat\Saorview combo boxes?

    Freesat is a branded Uk service. They dont make a combo box.

    These Linux combo boxes do 7 day epg taking the data down from a transponder or via crossepg plugin.


  • #27
    Bozacke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 301 ✭✭Bozacke


    ]Hi STB,

    Thanks for the reply, but can you translate?
    STB wrote: »
    These Linux combo boxes do 7 day epg taking the data down from a transponder or via crossepg plugin.[/QUOTE

    Do I need to install a patch or something? Could anyone point me to more info on this and recommend a Linux box or equivalent that I can get a combo box with a 7 day epg? Does it combine the Saorview and FTA 7 day epg all in one? Also can these do do serial record?


  • #28
    championc
    Registered Users Posts: 6,180 ✭✭✭championc


    Serial Link is a Sky Box feature only as far as I know

    On the latest firmware 1.2.54, the 7 day EPG is working for Saorview but it's not right for FTA Satelite from Astra 2A/2B/2D (i.e. it may be working OK from other satellites). Now and Next "sort of" works. I have advised Fulan (via www.sparkfans.net) of the EPG freq details (11778 V FEC:2/3, Symbol Rate 27500) so hopefully the issue will be resolved asap.

    I have been unable so far to install Enigma2 on this receiver so I have no idea as to whether the EPG will run properly or not. Does anyone know if the Satellite EPG works on Enigma2 based ST7111 based receivers ?


  • #29
    STB
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭STB


    championc wrote: »
    Serial Link is a Sky Box feature only as far as I know

    On the latest firmware 1.2.54, the 7 day EPG is working for Saorview but it's not right for FTA Satelite from Astra 2A/2B/2D (i.e. it may be working OK from other satellites). Now and Next "sort of" works. I have advised Fulan (via www.sparkfans.net) of the EPG freq details (11778 V FEC:2/3, Symbol Rate 27500) so hopefully the issue will be resolved asap.

    I have been unable so far to install Enigma2 on this receiver so I have no idea as to whether the EPG will run properly or not. Does anyone know if the Satellite EPG works on Enigma2 based ST7111 based receivers ?

    These boxes are not using ST7111 chip. They are using the The ST7162 chip.

    If you are looking for an image to run alongside the Fulan software (remember it allows you keep both and choose which you want to boot with) you should look for ProTriplex_Alpha_v1 from NF-EOS-Dev Team.

    Whilst Fulan are the behind the board design and Spark software, the boxes in the main (SAB/Golden Media/Amiko) all come out of the one manufacturing plant in Tangiers.


  • #30
    Bozacke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 301 ✭✭Bozacke


    championc wrote: »
    Serial Link is a Sky Box feature only as far as I know

    Well maybe it has a different name, but the Humax Foxsat has Serial link.


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  • #31
    PogMoThoin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,874 ✭✭✭✭PogMoThoin


    Bozacke wrote: »
    championc wrote: »
    Serial Link is a Sky Box feature only as far as I know

    Well maybe it has a different name, but the Humax Foxsat has Serial link.

    Yes, it's a Freesat box. Like Sky, Freesat has its own series link. Freesat is a joint venture between the BBC and ITV, they make their money on branded boxes like this.

    The Amiko isn't a Freesat box, it does free to air.


  • #32
    STB
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭STB


    In E2 images Series Link is called Autotimer and does the same thing.


  • #33
    championc
    Registered Users Posts: 6,180 ✭✭✭championc


    STB wrote: »
    These boxes are not using ST7111 chip. They are using the The ST7162 chip.

    I know that. What I was wondering was whether doing a full 7 day EPG was something which is doable on Enigma

    BTW, have you any idea as to how to install the E2 image ? I can set it to boot into ENIG but upon rebooting into FORCE, pressing the right arrow gives me FACT followed by 7 70

    I used the same USB that I had the Plugins on in order to install them on Spark.


  • #34
    stanley1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,521 ✭✭✭stanley1


    770 means that usb stick is not recognised, try a kingston.


  • #35
    championc
    Registered Users Posts: 6,180 ✭✭✭championc


    Strange because it worked fine for installing Spark Plugins


  • #36
    stanley1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,521 ✭✭✭stanley1


    have you managed to get 7 day epg working on spark image.


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  • #37
    zg3409
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,873 ✭✭✭zg3409


    Bozacke wrote: »
    Well maybe it has a different name, but the Humax Foxsat has Serial link.

    It's called "series link" Only Sky and FreeSat boxes do this. The first Saorview approved Saorview + PVR will do series link. It should be available before October 24th but will only record Irish channels

    Every approved FreeSAT box is listed here:
    http://www.freesat.co.uk
    The "+" boxes do series link


  • #38
    Joeyineire
    Registered Users Posts: 16 ✭Joeyineire


    I have just gotten one of these boxes and I have just managed to get the new software installed without it destroying my channel list etc. I really want to get TV wall working but how do I navigate to it and do I have to start a plugin ?

    I really am I beginner with all this so any help is appreciated. Has anyone installed Enigma 2 successfully on an Alien2. I hoping to try it tomorrow when I have a few hours to spare..

    I also have a NAS drive I was hoping to use a network PVR but I cant change the login information to access it.

    Is there anything else I should be using this box for or how do I make best use out of it, what do you use it for currently ?


  • #39
    Ronan Raver77
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭Ronan Raver77


    Was in a shop earlier on the southside of Dublin these are selling for 195euro..My head is fried at this stage of what set up stb satellite etc i should get:confused: I still have two or three months to decide all the same


  • #40
    steveon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,905 ✭✭✭steveon


    Joeyineire wrote: »
    I have just gotten one of these boxes and I have just managed to get the new software installed without it destroying my channel list etc. I really want to get TV wall working but how do I navigate to it and do I have to start a plugin ?

    I really am I beginner with all this so any help is appreciated. Has anyone installed Enigma 2 successfully on an Alien2. I hoping to try it tomorrow when I have a few hours to spare..

    I also have a NAS drive I was hoping to use a network PVR but I cant change the login information to access it.

    Is there anything else I should be using this box for or how do I make best use out of it, what do you use it for currently ?
    If you go into the settings and advanced option u can enable the tv wall and upload them from usb. If you download the latest channel editor from below version 1.7 and create ur channel list u can add the picon to the channel, and then upload it via the usb...its great...

    http://www.amikoalienusa.com/?page_id=118


  • #41
    championc
    Registered Users Posts: 6,180 ✭✭✭championc


    steveon wrote: »
    If you go into the settings and advanced option u can enable the tv wall and upload them from usb. If you download the latest channel editor from below version 1.7 and create ur channel list u can add the picon to the channel, and then upload it via the usb...its great...

    http://www.amikoalienusa.com/?page_id=118

    Hi Steveon,

    Where did you get your channel logos from ?


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  • #42
    STB
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭STB


    championc wrote: »
    Hi Steveon,

    Where did you get your channel logos from ?


    Google images I would imagine. Spark Editor allows you to add jpegs as picons.


  • #43
    championc
    Registered Users Posts: 6,180 ✭✭✭championc


    STB wrote: »
    Google images I would imagine. Spark Editor allows you to add jpegs as picons.

    I had found someone with a bunch on PNG's but not JPG's


  • #44
    steveon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,905 ✭✭✭steveon


    championc wrote: »
    I had found someone with a bunch on PNG's but not JPG's

    I actually converted them one by one myself....I am happy to share them and a complete channel listing that I done for the spark software version 2.54 if my memory serves me rite...


    Send me a pm if u want it.


  • #45
    stanley1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,521 ✭✭✭stanley1


    Steve, your PM folder is full, can you delete some messages.

    Regards

    stan


  • #46
    steveon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,905 ✭✭✭steveon


    stanley1 wrote: »
    Steve, your PM folder is full, can you delete some messages.

    Regards

    stan

    Sorry mate only finally made it home and I notice my email didnt send to you so I will try again in the morning...apologies..


  • #47
    PogMoThoin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,874 ✭✭✭✭PogMoThoin


    Finally got mine fully setup today. How is the TV wall for others? For me it's so laggy it's unusable. Timeshift isn't working, when I pause and return is jumps to present with no option to play from where paused. It was working perfectly on the Amiko 8820 I was using before this. Anyone got a link to a decent Enigma image.


  • #48
    championc
    Registered Users Posts: 6,180 ✭✭✭championc


    PogMoThoin wrote: »
    Finally got mine fully setup today. How is the TV wall for others? For me it's so laggy it's unusable. Timeshift isn't working, when I pause and return is jumps to present with no option to play from where paused. It was working perfectly on the Amiko 8820 I was using before this. Anyone got a link to a decent Enigma image.

    I am really annoyed that on Spark, you cannot record one channel on one aerial type while watching another channel on the other aerial type at the same time. Could this just be a restriction of the CURRENT version of the Spark software. Could the 8820 record on one while watching the other ?

    Or can you maybe use both aerials if I loaded the Enigma 2 firmware ?

    Many thanks


  • #49
    PogMoThoin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,874 ✭✭✭✭PogMoThoin


    championc wrote: »
    I am really annoyed that on Spark, you cannot record one channel on one aerial type while watching another channel on the other aerial type at the same time. Could this just be a restriction of the CURRENT version of the Spark software. Could the 8820 record on one while watching the other ?

    Or can you maybe use both aerials if I loaded the Enigma 2 firmware ?

    Many thanks

    No, 8820 wouldn't do this either, it's why i got this Alien 2. Seems it's early days for this hardware, better firmwares will come and hopefully decent enigma images. Much like my phone, I bought it for the hardware, I'll flash and customise it to meet my needs once the community support catches up.

    Seen your posts on sparkfans btw, not a very helpful community.


  • #50
    championc
    Registered Users Posts: 6,180 ✭✭✭championc


    This box has the "capability" to knock spots off a Dreambox. We live in hope


  • #51
    stanley1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,521 ✭✭✭stanley1


    yes, this box has great potential but software and lack of support is holding it back, most of the enigma2 images i have flashed have been very bug riddled, mostly botched openpli images, maybe it needs just a bit more time to get a decent enigma and spark image.


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