N25/N30 - New Ross Bypass [open to traffic]

Kermit.de.frog · 19-08-2018 9:08pm

It's draining looking at this scheme for the simple reason that the design of the road is dreadful. It annoys me they put so much effort in to the bridge and yet the rest of the road is substandard dross.

3 at grade roundabouts on the mainline and just one compact GSJ.

It's a continuation of the ridiculous from the Waterford bypass which is another mess (for some reason you have to use two roundabouts to join the road from the end of the M9!)

http://www.n25newross.ie/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/scheme-overview.jpg

I wish they would just build them properly instead of the messing around.

serfboard · 20-08-2018 12:38pm

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

3 at grade roundabouts on the mainline and just one compact GSJ ... I wish they would just build them properly instead of the messing around.

We know that it all comes down to money in the end - it's cheaper to do it this way. However, while from a cost point of view I can forgive the roundabouts on either end, the one that's unforgiveable for me is the one in the middle - the Ballymacar Roundabout. A roundabout in the middle - WTF?

There are precedents for this around the country, of course - Dromod-Rooskey (N4) has a roundabout in the middle, and the Tralee bypass (N69) has roundabouts all over the shop, but there are also plenty examples of where it was done right too: the Tuam bypass (N17) - roundabouts at either end, but at least a compact GSJ in the middle, and Claremorris (N17) which is a single-lane bypass featuring a compact GSJ.

Sam Russell · 20-08-2018 12:46pm

If a dual carriageway exists both sides of a junction, it should be grade separated. Why put in a roundabout?

serfboard · 20-08-2018 12:55pm

Sam Russell wrote: »

If a dual carriageway exists both sides of a junction, it should be grade separated. Why put in a roundabout?

Tis chaper, boss. And thats' the point of:

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

It annoys me they put so much effort money in to the bridge and yet the rest of the road is substandard dross.

Geogregor · 20-08-2018 2:48pm

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

It's draining looking at this scheme for the simple reason that the design of the road is dreadful. It annoys me they put so much effort in to the bridge and yet the rest of the road is substandard dross.

3 at grade roundabouts on the mainline and just one compact GSJ.

It's a continuation of the ridiculous from the Waterford bypass which is another mess (for some reason you have to use two roundabouts to join the road from the end of the M9!)

http://www.n25newross.ie/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/scheme-overview.jpg

I wish they would just build them properly instead of the messing around.

Roundabout at the end of HQDC is a good safety feature. It requires drivers to slow down and and not to carry "motorway like" speed into roads which are not suitable for that.
What is stupid are roundabouts in the middle of dual carriageways like the one at the end of M17 before Tuam bypass starts. This junction should be grade separated.

marno21 · 20-08-2018 3:57pm

It seems to me that the primary reason for the N25 roundabouts is that the N25 turns 90 degrees at both. The Waterford side roundabout should be grade separated as part of Waterford-Glenmore.

It's the N30 roundabout I have an issue with as it makes no sense given the road is going to be realigned there

Same as the roundabout at the northern end of the Castleisland bypass. Needless

tonc76 · 20-08-2018 4:19pm

marno21 wrote: »

It seems to me that the primary reason for the N25 roundabouts is that the N25 turns 90 degrees at both. The Waterford side roundabout should be grade separated as part of Waterford-Glenmore.

It's the N30 roundabout I have an issue with as it makes no sense given the road is going to be realigned there

Same as the roundabout at the northern end of the Castleisland bypass. Needless

The N25 Glenmore roundabout and the one at New Ross both have direct slips for westbound traffic. The N25 cross section changes from dual to single at these too.

The N30 also changes from dual to single carriageway at that roundabout so makes sense to have it rather than dropping a lane which causes it's own problems.

allthedoyles · 20-08-2018 10:22pm

Seen this photo on FB - Its Ballymacar

m17 · 21-08-2018 12:57pm

The new Ross bypass 20/08/18

vicwatson · 22-08-2018 9:41am

m17 wrote: »

The new Ross bypass 20/08/18

Is than video by our own Ian C ie Ian Carruthers from the weather forum I wonder?

allthedoyles · 22-08-2018 11:29am

It's a local photographer

skodacb · 23-08-2018 11:31pm

Took these up near Kennedy Homestead, shot on the phone so apologies on quality.

https://imgur.com/a/Dowu7bU

Seems to be the best place for getting a clear view of the bridge construction without a drone.

Also the traffic flow management at the Glenmore roundabout is being changed this Saturday.

Dowu7bU

m17 · 24-08-2018 11:51am

skodacb wrote: »

Took these up near Kennedy Homestead, shot on the phone so apologies on quality.

https://imgur.com/a/Dowu7bU

Seems to be the best place for getting a clear view of the bridge construction without a drone.

Also the traffic flow management at the Glenmore roundabout is being changed this Saturday.

There's no need to apologise any pics are better than nothing

m17 · 05-09-2018 11:18am

The barrow crossing 03/09/18

m17 · 08-09-2018 5:47pm

The barrow crossing 03/09/18 pics by bam ireland

eagerv · 11-09-2018 4:47pm

Another excellent drone video...
Filmed 09/09/18

VR6 · 13-09-2018 2:06pm

Hmm. "Ahead of schedule" and "completed by June 2019" are two contradicting phrases for this project.
I thought it was due to open early Spring 2019.

m17 · 13-09-2018 2:20pm

The barrow crossing 11/09/18

vicwatson · 13-09-2018 9:13pm

VR6 wrote: »

Hmm. "Ahead of schedule" and "completed by June 2019" are two contradicting phrases for this project.
I thought it was due to open early Spring 2019.

NO Way will that bridge be finished by spring 2019, heading into windy/wet season will slow things down I’d imagine.

Surprised at the pace of it tbh, such a great 6 months of weather and no major movement. I know it’s a big bridge and a lot of work has been done either side but just can’t see it completed by spring 2019

VR6 · 14-09-2018 11:49am

Agree completely. My comment was prompted by the article in the Munster Express highlighted by M17 in a post that appeared briefly yesterday and then disappeared (??)
"Work on the €230 million N25 New Ross Bypass is ahead of schedule, with the new road and bridge due to be fully open by June of next year."

hans aus dtschl · 14-09-2018 2:12pm

Just semantics, but work being ahead of schedule doesn't always mean delivery ahead of schedule.
Work can be completed ahead of schedule without following phases being brought forward.
It really just means "no delays so far".

VR6 · 14-09-2018 2:23pm

True, but doesn't change the fact that the completion date has been put back from Q1 2019 to June 2019....

hans aus dtschl · 14-09-2018 2:56pm

Fair call.

m17 · 14-09-2018 9:54pm

VR6 wrote: »

Agree completely. My comment was prompted by the article in the Munster Express highlighted by M17 in a post that appeared briefly yesterday and then disappeared (??)
"Work on the €230 million N25 New Ross Bypass is ahead of schedule, with the new road and bridge due to be fully open by June of next year."

I'm all about the pics and not newspaper waffle

Chris_5339762 · 14-09-2018 9:55pm

Huge bridges take time, not like building a 'regular' motorway with a few river crossings like we're used to. A delay is reasonable in this instance.

m17 · 16-09-2018 2:41pm

The barrow crossing 13/09/18

vicwatson · 16-09-2018 2:47pm

Great picture m17

m17 · 21-09-2018 5:42pm

The barrow crossing August 18 pics form the N25 newross website

m17 · 23-09-2018 11:22am

Bridge construction to the end of August 2018

Donegal Storm · 24-09-2018 1:02am

m17 wrote: »

Bridge construction to the end of August 2018

Essentially no visible progress compared to a month earlier

delaido · 29-09-2018 9:36pm

Heard from a reliable source that there is some problem with the bridge which will lead to serious delay

Azatadine · 29-09-2018 9:44pm

I heard something about a concrete problem last weekend too. Only heard it from a local though, not a reliable source.

josip · 01-10-2018 12:30am

I had hoped to get over earlier but the evenings are getting short.

m17 · 01-10-2018 6:42am

Class pics josip brilliant work

serfboard · 01-10-2018 5:24pm

delaido wrote: »

Heard from a reliable source that there is some problem with the bridge which will lead to serious delay

There are rumours like this about nearly every bridge that's ever built - and they are almost always untrue.

m17 · 03-10-2018 8:50pm

The barrow crossing

m17 · 03-10-2018 8:58pm

Construction September 2018

m17 · 04-10-2018 7:48am

The barrow crossing 01/10/18

m17 · 04-10-2018 9:03am

New name for the barrow crossing

The rose Fitzgerald Kennedy bridge

Harry Palmr · 04-10-2018 9:05am

Dear God, no will call it that.

MayoSalmon · 04-10-2018 10:40am

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Dear God, no will call it that.

Exactly...I'll stick with the Barrow bridge thanks

pad199207 · 04-10-2018 10:53am

Kennedy Bridge sounds grand

rekdtangle · 04-10-2018 1:33pm

delaido wrote: »

Heard from a reliable source that there is some problem with the bridge which will lead to serious delay

There were issues approx a year ago with the concrete but haven't heard of anything new.

serfboard · 04-10-2018 1:42pm

pad199207 wrote: »

Kennedy Bridge sounds grand

Yeah, I don't get this (new?) idea of putting the whole name on structures e.g. the James Joyce, Samuel Beckett and Rosie Hackett bridges. Surnames are fine and useful, anything else is too long-winded. If anyone wants to know who it's called after they can always look it up.

vicwatson · 04-10-2018 6:09pm

serfboard wrote: »

Yeah, I don't get this (new?) idea of putting the whole name on structures e.g. the James Joyce, Samuel Beckett and Rosie Hackett bridges. Surnames are fine and useful, anything else is too long-winded. If anyone wants to know who it's called after they can always look it up.

Councilors trying to justify themselves in a chamber

vicwatson · 04-10-2018 6:10pm

MayoSalmon wrote: »

Exactly...I'll stick with the Barrow bridge thanks

New Ross bridge for me

pad199207 · 04-10-2018 6:48pm

‘The Rose F Kennedy Bridge’

That sounds alright

josip · 04-10-2018 10:28pm

For those of us living nearby, it's 'the bridge' or if we're feeling particularly verbose, 'the new bridge'.

JPA · 05-10-2018 11:33am

MayoSalmon wrote: »

Exactly...I'll stick with the Barrow bridge thanks

Well, there already is a Barrow bridge, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrow_Bridge

m17 · 05-10-2018 3:45pm

The RFK bridge

N25/N30 - New Ross Bypass [open to traffic]

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