Games off due to cup games and DGW's

Shedite27 · 17-02-2014 10:16am

iroced wrote: »

Maybe I'm wrong but I'm not THAT concerned about GW 29 blank chaos. It's more the timing of the DGWs to follow that concerns me.

It looks like the potential DGWs are GW 31, GW 34 and GW 37.

Here's the current list of games to be rescheduled:
Man City - Sunderland
Everton - CP
Sunderland - West Brom
Arsenal - Swansea
Man City - AV
Newcastle - Everton
Liverpool - Sunderland

The "big" teams involved for a DGW are Man City, Arsenal, Liverpool and Everton. The good point is their postponed games are all very favourable fixtures (home to bottom table teams).
City already have a DGW for GW 31 but the second game is away to United. Not the best fixture for a DGW.

If the replays are set for GW 31, the normal GW 31 games see Arsenal go away to Chelsea, Liverpool away to Cardiff and Everton home to Swansea. So in that case, Arsenal may not be a good option to follow.

If the replays are set for GW 34, the normal GW 34 games see Arsenal host WH, Liverpool host Man City and Everton away to Sunderland. So in that case, Liverpool may not be the best option. Also, if City second DGW happens that very GW it's a tough away game for City and not an ideal DGW scenario, unless their trip to Anfield turns into a goal fest.

Though it's important to note that the FA Cup semis are on during GW 34 so potentially some of these teams may have a blank for the normal GW 34 games which would make the potential DGW turn into a single GW.

If the replays are set for GW 37, the normal GW 37 games see Arsenal host WBA, Liverpool go away to CP and Everton host Man City. So in that case, it's all Arsenal and Liverpool!

To sum this up,

Man City have the worst possible scenario for their DGWs since the potential/probable rescheduling will see their postponed games added to 2 of 3 tough away games (MU gw31 - already rescheduled -, Liverpool gw34 or Everton gw37). So, if you add the potential/probable rotations that they will experience, loading up City players may not be the best idea. That being said they showed they can score big against pretty much everyone.

Like Man City, Everton should have 2 DGWs. If they don't happen for GW 37, Everton have very favourable fixtures.

For Arsenal and Liverpool it is really dependent on the DGW timing. On paper, it could be either fantastic or poor.

Maybe going for "smaller" teams fighting against relegation (Swansea, AV, CP, WBA, Sunderland) could pay off nicely. There is a major con though, it's that their postponed game is a very tough one (away to a top of the table - most fighting for the PL title - team). The only exception is the Sun-WBA game.
If the replays are set for GW 31, the normal GW 31 games see Swansea go away to Everton, AV host Stoke, CP go away to Newcastle, WBA go away to Hull and Sunderland go away to Norwich. Bar Swansea (and to a lesser extent CP), all good fixtures.

If the replays are set for GW 34, the normal GW 34 games see Swansea host Chelsea, AV go away to CP, WBA host Tottenham and Sunderland host Everton. CP-AV sounds the most promising game. Sunderland at home may be a good prospect too.

Again it's important to note that should some of these teams progress to the FA semis they would not have a DGW for this GW 34.

If the replays are set for GW 37, the normal GW 37 games see Swansea host Southampton, AV host Hull, CP host Liverpool, WBA go away to Arsenal and Sunderland go away to Man U. Only Swansea and AV sound appealing.

To sum this up,

CP players don't loook like worth it.

AV is noteworthy.

Sunderland should have 3 DGWs. So we may think it'll be GW 31, 34 AND 37 for them. Problem is not only 2 of their postponed games are very tough (away to City and Liverpool) but their GW 37 fixture is another tough away game (Man U).

Then Swansea and WBA could be good depending when the DGW will happen.

Finally, there is Newcastle...
GW 31: home to CP

GW 34: away to Stoke.

GW 37: home to Cardiff.

Not only their postponed game is not too bad (home to Everton) but each possible DGW sounds very appealing for them. Problem is they are absolute sh*te at the moment....

Can't wait for the rescheduled games to be announced !!! Considering the huge difference fixtures-wise regarding the teams affected by DGWs, there's not much planning we can do now...

GReat post, but still far too many mentions of the word "if" for my liking. BEst advice, bank this week's transfer and be ready for when it all clears itself up.

CSF · 17-02-2014 10:34am

Shedite27 wrote: »

GReat post, but still far too many mentions of the word "if" for my liking. BEst advice, bank this week's transfer and be ready for when it all clears itself up.

There are definitely some safe transfers for this week, mine is Dzeko to Adebayor.

FHFC · 17-02-2014 10:53am

CSF wrote: »

There are definitely some safe transfers for this week, mine is Dzeko to Adebayor.

Yeah, I'll be doing Bendonkey to Ade too.

Then its probably Silva to Zaha/Ince/Adams/AN Other for GW28&29 but after that will prob try to bank a transfer and have two from GW30.

Lemlin · 17-02-2014 11:34am

FHFC wrote: »

Yeah, I'll be doing Bendonkey to Ade too.

Then its probably Silva to Zaha/Ince/Adams/AN Other for GW28&29 but after that will prob try to bank a transfer and have two from GW30.

That's my plan exactly.

GW27 - bank transfer.
GW28 - Yaya out.
GW29 - Mert out.

I'll then have a banked transfer for GW30 onwards. The next few weeks are going to be all about just ensuring that you have 11 starters. At present, I will have ten for GW29 following those two transfers so I'm more than happy with that.

I will have 11 if Hull do me a favour and lose.

Edit: I'm 90% sure Nolan would be my transfer in for Yaya if West Ham lose too. They play Everton away and Hull home.

Lemlin · 17-02-2014 11:45am

Site now updated to show the three missing games in GW29.

CSF · 17-02-2014 12:06pm

Lemlin wrote: »

Site now updated to show the three missing games in GW29.

BOOOOOO. The longer that went without being updated the more people would make GW 27 transfers for players who have no GW 29 game.

CSF · 17-02-2014 12:15pm

Looking at bringing in a 2nd Chelsea midfielder (along with Hazard who I already have) for GW 28 and 29. Willian or Oscar? Oscar the more likely points scorer IMO but Willian the more certain starter and these are weeks I can't afford anyone dropped or rested.

Fulham away and Tottenham at home the fixtures.

roryc · 17-02-2014 12:25pm

Those results yesterday destroyed my team. Worst possible outcome, although I'm sure there's a few others in the same boat. F**king Arsenal! They just turned a big advantage into a big disadvantage. Left with just one defender (Ward) going into GW29, six players overall. Didn't want to have to use a transfer this week on Sagna when he has a home tie against Sunderland but looks like I've no choice now. Banked a transfer last week and it's a use it or lose it situation. Would be great if I could carry over and have 3 FT's next week!

So this week I'll bring in Azpil and hope they can hold Everton for a CS, then use my 2 FT's next week to dump Yaya and Zab. My plan of not doubling up on Chelsea defenders may be out the window, there are few other teams to choose from! Nolan looks like he'll be my Yaya replacement, Ozil was a possibility but not after last night. Oscar could be a decent shout. Would be looking at fielding 10 for GW29 in a 5-3-1 formation

Lemlin · 17-02-2014 12:28pm

CSF wrote: »

BOOOOOO. The longer that went without being updated the more people would make GW 27 transfers for players who have no GW 29 game.

I doubt that many casual players check two GWs ahead when making their transfers anyway tbh.

FutureGuy · 17-02-2014 12:34pm

I thrive in absolute mayhem.

Bring it fcuking onnnnn!!!!

Lemlin · 17-02-2014 12:45pm

FutureGuy wrote: »

I thrive in absolute mayhem.

Bring it fcuking onnnnn!!!!

Couldn't agree more. I found last Wednesday night great craic.

Ya just got to roll with it.

CSF · 17-02-2014 12:58pm

Lemlin wrote: »

I doubt that many casual players check two GWs ahead when making their transfers anyway tbh.

No but there is a middleground between those who absolutely obsess over the game, and those who pay no attention at all, and those are the ones I'm more worried about as they're usually the ones around you in your money leagues. Well at least that is the case for me.

iroced · 17-02-2014 1:35pm

Shedite27 wrote: »

GReat post, but still far too many mentions of the word "if" for my liking. BEst advice, bank this week's transfer and be ready for when it all clears itself up.

Thanks mate but regarding my post in question I think the biggest "if" is can the postponed games be rescheduled in midweeks where European games are planned ?
If so, then all my analysis is rubbish. Otherwise I can start to prepare my team for this hectic period. Have already 2 FT this week so would not like to waste an opportunity to arrange my team the best possible way.

roryc wrote: »

Those results yesterday destroyed my team. Worst possible outcome, although I'm sure there's a few others in the same boat. F**king Arsenal! They just turned a big advantage into a big disadvantage. Left with just one defender (Ward) going into GW29, six players overall. Didn't want to have to use a transfer this week on Sagna when he has a home tie against Sunderland but looks like I've no choice now. Banked a transfer last week and it's a use it or lose it situation. Would be great if I could carry over and have 3 FT's next week!

So this week I'll bring in Azpil and hope they can hold Everton for a CS, then use my 2 FT's next week to dump Yaya and Zab. My plan of not doubling up on Chelsea defenders may be out the window, there are few other teams to choose from! Nolan looks like he'll be my Yaya replacement, Ozil was a possibility but not after last night. Oscar could be a decent shout. Would be looking at fielding 10 for GW29 in a 5-3-1 formation

I'm not sure GW 29 is the key GW though. Looking at the fixtures left which players can score big? United forwads? Many here have Mata. Can we afford RVP? Nolan? Lallana-J Rod-Lambert? Many here have a Chelsea def, Hazard and Ade which is not too bad for the Che-Tot game. Then what are the potential CS? Cardiff at home? Not so sure... 1 CS in their last 5 home games and they had a pretty handy calendar (I had praised it largely enough :rolleyes:...). Southampton away? The Norwich-Stoke game maybe? WH home? Chelsea?

I feel there's a huge emphasis given on how many players people will field for GW 29 but if you can field 11 you may be in trouble if GW31 is a huge DGW... Which could be the case since there is already one game rescheduled for that very GW.

Lemlin wrote: »

Site now updated to show the three missing games in GW29.

Think there's a mistake though since they have the Newcastle-Everton game still on...

Lemlin wrote: »

I doubt that many casual players check two GWs ahead when making their transfers anyway tbh.

Yeah but when you're in the top let's say 50k there're not many casual players left. Also I don't know about yours but at the top of my private league there's not a single casual players.

roryc · 17-02-2014 2:46pm

iroced wrote: »

I feel there's a huge emphasis given on how many players people will field for GW 29 but if you can field 11 you may be in trouble if GW31 is a huge DGW... Which could be the case since there is already one game rescheduled for that very GW.

I'm gearing towards GW29 at the moment because my team is pretty much sorted for this weekend and next (Mata dropping to bench for GW28). As it stands I only have 6 players in GW29 so until more info comes out about DGW the focus needs to be on getting 10 starters for this!

For GW31 - I'm aiming to have Vidic, Mata, Yaya and Kompany for this week, but will obviously reassess as new fixtures get announced. Liverpool have a DGW, and I will have Suarez and Sturridge for this. I'll keep an eye on when this is rescheduled and may look at Skrtel. Everton's double is one to watch out for, I'll be holding on to Coleman but may get Mirallas in. Also, I'm holding onto Mannone and Colback, although I likely won't play the latter. Johnson is definitely on my radar for Sunderland's doubles.

Either way, preparation for the double game weeks shouldn't start until after GW29 when we should have a lot more information. It's not a problem to be focusing on GW29 at the moment, I'm hoping that a lot of amateur/casual players take hits thinking they have to field 11 players. Or even better, get rid of some of their big players (Suarez, Sturridge etc).

zarquon · 17-02-2014 3:54pm

Johnson to Lallana this week, Yaya and Kolorov to Nolan and Terry or Ivanovic for GW 28 (with banked transfer) and then bank another another transfer for GW 30 which will set me up to bring some Double GW coverage for GW 31, potentially Yaya and Aguero.

Iused2likebusts · 17-02-2014 4:22pm

iroced wrote: »

Thanks mate but regarding my post in question I think the biggest "if" is can the postponed games be rescheduled in midweeks where European games are planned ?
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This is the major issue. The total fpl article is a bit misleading in that you may read that and think that all games were rescheduled without considering european games. In the 2011/2012 season the league games postponed for FA cup quarter final were rescheduled for the midweek of that particular gameweek however there was no CL on that midweek so we are not comparing like with like. The games postponed for the fa cup semi final that year were not rescheduled until a non CL midweek
A liverpool everton game in the 2012 season postponed due to liverpool playing in the carling cup final was rescheduled for a tuesday night that clashed with a CL night however crucially perhaps there was no english team involved that night. There was also complaints from uefa about this.

No game was rearranged last year to clash with a CL night but I think this year it may be unavoidable. If city or sundeland win their Fa cup QF thats another game that has to be refixed giving both of them 4 games to rearrange when their are only 3 non CL gws 31,34 and 37. Meaning a game will have to clash with a CL night or one of those teams will face a triple GW.
http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/283099.html

Menas · 17-02-2014 4:31pm

This is so complicated my poor head hurts.

Key for me is if they decide to reschedule New v Eve, Liv v Sun and Wham v Hull to be within GW29 (best case scenario)

Likely for the last but less likely for the first two given that they are TV matches.

Ignoring free transfers -for GW 29 I will have 7 players worst case scenario.
I will have 12 best case scenario.

So best plan for me is to sit on my hands and do nothing until the dust settles and those three matches get rescheduled. Bank this weeks transfer.

Dr. Bre · 17-02-2014 4:38pm

need brighton to win tonite so hull wham game goes ahead

roryc · 17-02-2014 5:55pm

Someone did mention on the BBC Matchday Stream the other day that games cannot be rescheduled for CL nights. Unsure if thats a FIFA rule or just hasn't happened before. As busts says above it may be unavoidable.

Rosco79 · 17-02-2014 6:42pm

Liverpool/Sunderland and Newcastle/Everton games are still a bit of a conundrum,they could be replayed midweek GW29 but to accommodate TV thats unlikely... Bring back the days of one game a week on the BEEB!!

km79 · 17-02-2014 8:04pm

Chester on the bench for hull yeeessssssss :-D now I really want them to lose !

FHFC · 17-02-2014 8:53pm

km79 wrote: »

Chester on the bench for hull yeeessssssss :-D now I really want them to lose !

That is good news. He's down to 3.8 last time I checked. However I want them to win tonight so I can get him back in for a DGW.

Lemlin · 17-02-2014 8:54pm

FHFC wrote: »

That is good news. He's down to 3.8 last time I checked. However I want them to win tonight so I can get him back in for a DGW.

Might bring him in for Mert if they do lose.

extra gravy · 17-02-2014 9:19pm

Brighton 1 up, so far so good.

roryc · 17-02-2014 9:20pm

Haha Hull losing tonight would be the icing on the cake of bad FA Cup results.

IsMiseMyself · 17-02-2014 9:32pm

I would really like Hull to lose.

POKERKING · 17-02-2014 9:38pm

What a miss to make it two nil!

Need a hull win but it's hilarious nonetheless the chaos it will cause!

Ace2007 · 17-02-2014 9:54pm

roryc wrote: »

Haha Hull losing tonight would be the icing on the cake of bad FA Cup results.

How?

FHFC · 17-02-2014 9:57pm

Really want Hull to go through, mainly to give everyone who loaded up on West Ham defenders a headache.

Mint Sauce · 17-02-2014 10:01pm

Just looked at GW29, oh my sweet lord. Have two transfers, but going to be saving one till then me thinks. Currently looking like only having 8 to 9 players so far, but obvoiulsy dont want to ship out to many players either as there has to be a BIG double GW coming up, other than the one were Utd and City are currently scheduled to play twice.

I wonder if GW29 deserves its own thread already.

Lemlin · 17-02-2014 10:03pm

IsMiseMyself wrote: »

I would really like Hull to lose.

Hull losing will give me 9 players for GW29. Come on Brighton!

IsMiseMyself · 17-02-2014 10:06pm

Lemlin wrote: »

Hull losing will give me 9 players for GW29. Come on Brighton!

Pulls me up to eight, I think.

SantryRed · 17-02-2014 10:07pm

Adrian, Collins and Chester riding on this game so Brighton better hold out.

km79 · 17-02-2014 10:15pm

Hoooolllllllddddddddd

km79 · 17-02-2014 10:32pm

One all

IsMiseMyself · 17-02-2014 10:33pm

No goalkeeper for me. Yay. And back down to 7 players I go. Oh joy.

Mike Ehrmantraut · 17-02-2014 10:35pm

Dammit Sagbo, there goes the masterplan of bringing in Adrian and Collins for gw29

km79 · 17-02-2014 10:38pm

I now have no defenders for it. None =-O

SantryRed · 17-02-2014 10:40pm

5 players for GW 29 if Hull win the replay. ****. Can only get up to 8.

km79 · 17-02-2014 10:41pm

SantryRed wrote: »

5 players for GW 29 if Hull win the replay. ****. Can only get up to 8.

Is the replay not that weekend anyway ? Thought I read that somewhere

Rosco79 · 17-02-2014 10:43pm

I have a dodgy 7 (Yoshida) - no West Ham or Hull players so delighted with result tonight.

GW29 is becoming a really interesting set up, will make you earn your crust.....

Ziegler1988 · 17-02-2014 10:52pm

km79 wrote: »

Is the replay not that weekend anyway ? Thought I read that somewhere

Replay is next Monday

km79 · 17-02-2014 10:54pm

Ziegler1988 wrote: »

Replay is next Monday

Oh there Is hope yet so !

OneColdHand · 17-02-2014 10:55pm

Ziegler1988 wrote: »

Replay is next Monday

So Hull - Cardiff is off next weekend?

God, this is giving me a headache...

Iused2likebusts · 17-02-2014 10:57pm

OneColdHand wrote: »

So Hull - Cardiff is off next weekend?

God, this is giving me a headache...

Cant see why hull cardiff will be off

OneColdHand · 17-02-2014 11:00pm

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

Cant see why hull cardiff will be off

The replay is Monday. Would they be expected to play on Sat and again on Mon?

Ace2007 · 17-02-2014 11:04pm

OneColdHand wrote: »

The replay is Monday. Would they be expected to play on Sat and again on Mon?

Yes, not uncommon that teams get 1 day rest, just look a Europa league and Saturday games

km79 · 17-02-2014 11:06pm

I bet both managers wished they played their strongest teams now ! Hull have Cardiff saturday . massive game. They may get beat on Monday yet !

Iused2likebusts · 17-02-2014 11:17pm

OneColdHand wrote: »

The replay is Monday. Would they be expected to play on Sat and again on Mon?

not very common but happens over xmas. Utd chelsea also had an fa cup game on a monday last year after weekend league matches.

The Phantom Jipper · 18-02-2014 12:43am

What's the plan for anyone who still has a wildcard? Unload any City and United players over the next two weeks and use the WC for GW 31?

Games off due to cup games and DGW's

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