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Eir Fibre Rollout Mapping

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    #3692
    ED E
    Registered Users Posts: 36,164 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    You can make an educated guess based on distance but that guess only applies if the cab you think is serving you actually is.

    Typically your copper cab (old) will be the next one towards the area exchange so if theres one closer "further out" of town it may not be you. The VDSL ones colo with the old ones (so 70s decisions impact what service you get now).




    If a neighbour has upgraded you can get a real estimate, so check with them and use their eircode to check.


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    #3693
    ED E
    Registered Users Posts: 36,164 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    On another note, spotted some DPs in Bray that aren't following the normal form, at least those Ive seen.

    Spooling around a larger plate but with only one side occupied, so all sorta lopsided to the right. Looked like smaller 4 ports in between too. Its not a SIRO area so gotta be OE.


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    #3694
    Marlow
    Registered Users Posts: 14,555 ✭✭✭✭Marlow


    Bray is SIRO area being build and that very much sounds like a SIRO DP. The stuff Huawei has build for SIRO in Athlone looks like that.

    /M


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    #3695
    oscarBravo
    Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,791 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    Yup, Castlebar and Westport have SIRO DPs on poles that look like that.


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    #3696
    ED E
    Registered Users Posts: 36,164 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Ooops, misread the map so.


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    #3697
    Marlow
    Registered Users Posts: 14,555 ✭✭✭✭Marlow


    ED E wrote: »
    Ooops, misread the map so.

    SIROs map is not very up to date. It's really behind.

    For example .. the interconnects in Galway are now complete. The build has started. The map does not reflect that yet .... but within a month we'll see the first premises go live.

    Same goes for Waterford.

    /M


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    #3698
    CantThinkOfANam
    Registered Users Posts: 223 ✭✭CantThinkOfANam


    Hi all,

    Sorry I’m sure this has been asked already but my head is wrecked emailing Openeir and Sky.

    I just bought a house in a new development in north Co. Dublin and we tried to get Sky TV & Fibre broadband. When they sent out the engineer to connect the broadband he said the house is FTTH but it’s not live. He’s seen this loads of times but he can’t do anything. He did say there are houses in this estate with Sky fibre broadband.

    I have contacted openeir and they refuse to talk to me. They said I have to get the service provider to contact them. When I contact Sky they know nothing about this and refuse to contact openeir on my behalf.

    My eircode isn’t registered on fibrerollout but when I put in the address I see a yellow envelope symbol.

    Has anybody else had a similar problem?

    Cheers.


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    #3699
    tsue921i8wljb3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭tsue921i8wljb3


    CantThinkOfANam wrote: »
    Hi all,

    Sorry I’m sure this has been asked already but my head is wrecked emailing Openeir and Sky.

    I just bought a house in a new development in north Co. Dublin and we tried to get Sky TV & Fibre broadband. When they sent out the engineer to connect the broadband he said the house is FTTH but it’s not live. He’s seen this loads of times but he can’t do anything. He did say there are houses in this estate with Sky fibre broadband.

    I have contacted openeir and they refuse to talk to me. They said I have to get the service provider to contact them. When I contact Sky they know nothing about this and refuse to contact openeir on my behalf.

    My eircode isn’t registered on fibrerollout but when I put in the address I see a yellow envelope symbol.

    Has anybody else had a similar problem?

    Cheers.

    Assuming the engineer is telling the truth there is not a lot you can do but wait for them to make the area live. Sky or any other ISP are not going to make them do it. Out of interest what do you get if you enter your Eircode on:

    https://www.eir.ie/broadband/1000mb-fibre/


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    #3700
    CantThinkOfANam
    Registered Users Posts: 223 ✭✭CantThinkOfANam


    Hi,

    That says fibre to the home is not available.

    But the rollout map says it’s available and when I enter my address it shows a yellow envelope:

    2175A62C-2137-46CC-9576-47C4B15FA599.jpeg


    Does anybody know what this means?

    Another problem is that there’s no phone line in my house, is this because it’s wired for ftth? So I can’t get normal broadband?

    I have the option of going with Virgin who said I can get 250mbps on their network but I prefer Sky.


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    #3701
    tsue921i8wljb3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭tsue921i8wljb3


    CantThinkOfANam wrote: »
    Hi,

    That says fibre to the home is not available.

    But the rollout map says it’s available and when I enter my address it shows a yellow envelope:

    2175A62C-2137-46CC-9576-47C4B15FA599.jpeg


    Does anybody know what this means?

    Another problem is that there’s no phone line in my house, is this because it’s wired for ftth? So I can’t get normal broadband?

    I have the option of going with Virgin who said I can get 250mbps on their network but I prefer Sky.

    The green shaded area means you are within coverage of a FTTC cabinet (fibre to the cabinet then copper to your home). However you are in a new build estate that has apparently been planned for FTTH. You're unlikely to get a copper phone line so you'll have to wait for FTTH to be switched on.

    I'd advise going with Virgin. You don't know how long you'll have to wait for open eir. Get TV from Sky separately if you wish.


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    #3702
    peddlelies
    Closed Accounts Posts: 840 ✭✭✭peddlelies


    Is Eir VDSL borked for anyone else tonight?

    Tracing route to google.ie [2a00:1450:400b:c01::5e]
    over a maximum of 30 hops:

    1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms pool-ipv6-pd.agg3.kny.prp-wtd.eircom.net [2001:bb6:b400:827a::1]
    2 10 ms 8 ms 5 ms 2001:bb0:6:a15a::1
    3 17 ms 17 ms 17 ms br1.thn.border.eircom.net [2001:bb0:6:a125::1]
    4 * 340 ms 302 ms 2001:4860:1:1:0:155a:0:10
    5 372 ms 377 ms 375 ms 2001:4860:0:135d::12
    6 392 ms 374 ms 376 ms 2001:4860::c:4000:cf5b
    7 376 ms * * 2001:4860::9:4001:46fb
    8 401 ms 403 ms 401 ms 2001:4860::2:0:c919
    9 * * * Request timed out.
    10 * * * Request timed out.
    11 * * * Request timed out.
    12 * * * Request timed out.
    13 * * * Request timed out.
    14 * * * Request timed out.
    15 * * * Request timed out.
    16 * * * Request timed out.
    17 * * * Request timed out.
    18 374 ms 374 ms * 2a00:1450:400b:c01::5e
    19 373 ms 374 ms 370 ms 2a00:1450:400b:c01::5e


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    #3703
    CantThinkOfANam
    Registered Users Posts: 223 ✭✭CantThinkOfANam


    Alec Dirty Pun wrote: »
    The green shaded area means you are within coverage of a FTTC cabinet (fibre to the cabinet then copper to your home). However you are in a new build estate that has apparently been planned for FTTH. You're unlikely to get a copper phone line so you'll have to wait for FTTH to be switched on.

    I'd advise going with Virgin. You don't know how long you'll have to wait for open eir. Get TV from Sky separately if you wish.

    Cheers for that. The strange thing is someone has Sky broadband cos I’m picking up their WiFi signal.

    Does anybody know what the yellow envelope means?


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    #3704
    Marlow
    Registered Users Posts: 14,555 ✭✭✭✭Marlow


    CantThinkOfANam wrote: »
    Cheers for that. The strange thing is someone has Sky broadband cos I’m picking up their WiFi signal.

    Does anybody know what the yellow envelope means?

    Sky broadband could be anything: ADSL, VDSL, FTTH or somebody just using a Sky router for anything else.

    The yellow envelope resembles the address you entered.

    /M


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    #3705
    CantThinkOfANam
    Registered Users Posts: 223 ✭✭CantThinkOfANam


    Marlow wrote: »
    Sky broadband could be anything: ADSL, VDSL, FTTH or somebody just using a Sky router for anything else.

    The yellow envelope resembles the address you entered.

    /M


    Thanks. I just received this message from Openeir:

    “This is a new estate and cable records are not currently available here as this part of the estate has not been indexed yet. Service is currently unavailable.
    This case has been treated with the highest importance and we appreciate your patience in this matter.”

    It’s seems the rollout map is incorrect.


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    #3706
    peddlelies
    Closed Accounts Posts: 840 ✭✭✭peddlelies


    peddlelies wrote: »
    Is Eir VDSL borked for anyone else tonight?

    Tracing route to google.ie [2a00:1450:400b:c01::5e]
    over a maximum of 30 hops:

    1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms pool-ipv6-pd.agg3.kny.prp-wtd.eircom.net [2001:bb6:b400:827a::1]
    2 10 ms 8 ms 5 ms 2001:bb0:6:a15a::1
    3 17 ms 17 ms 17 ms br1.thn.border.eircom.net [2001:bb0:6:a125::1]
    4 * 340 ms 302 ms 2001:4860:1:1:0:155a:0:10
    5 372 ms 377 ms 375 ms 2001:4860:0:135d::12
    6 392 ms 374 ms 376 ms 2001:4860::c:4000:cf5b
    7 376 ms * * 2001:4860::9:4001:46fb
    8 401 ms 403 ms 401 ms 2001:4860::2:0:c919
    9 * * * Request timed out.
    10 * * * Request timed out.
    11 * * * Request timed out.
    12 * * * Request timed out.
    13 * * * Request timed out.
    14 * * * Request timed out.
    15 * * * Request timed out.
    16 * * * Request timed out.
    17 * * * Request timed out.
    18 374 ms 374 ms * 2a00:1450:400b:c01::5e
    19 373 ms 374 ms 370 ms 2a00:1450:400b:c01::5e

    Apologies if this is the wrong thread. Same again today

    1 <1 ms <1 ms 2 ms pool-ipv6-pd.agg3.kny.prp-wtd.eircom.net [2001:bb6:b400:827a::1]
    2 14 ms 5 ms 7 ms 2001:bb0:6:a15a::1
    3 8 ms 8 ms 8 ms br1.csg.border.eircom.net [2001:bb0:6:a127::1]
    4 * 371 ms 370 ms inex2.as13335.net [2001:7f8:18:12::61]
    5 369 ms 367 ms * 2606:4700:10::6814:4660
    6 367 ms 367 ms * 2606:4700:10::6814:4660
    7 366 ms 366 ms * 2606:4700:10::6814:4660
    8 367 ms * 370 ms 2606:4700:10::6814:4660


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    #3707
    Johnboy1951
    Registered Users Posts: 13,990 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    peddlelies wrote: »
    Apologies if this is the wrong thread. Same again today

    1 <1 ms <1 ms 2 ms pool-ipv6-pd.agg3.kny.prp-wtd.eircom.net [2001:bb6:b400:827a::1]
    2 14 ms 5 ms 7 ms 2001:bb0:6:a15a::1
    3 8 ms 8 ms 8 ms br1.csg.border.eircom.net [2001:bb0:6:a127::1]
    4 * 371 ms 370 ms inex2.as13335.net [2001:7f8:18:12::61]
    5 369 ms 367 ms * 2606:4700:10::6814:4660
    6 367 ms 367 ms * 2606:4700:10::6814:4660
    7 366 ms 366 ms * 2606:4700:10::6814:4660
    8 367 ms * 370 ms 2606:4700:10::6814:4660

    I get, using tracepath on Linux,

    1: 192.168.1.254 0.637ms
    2: 95-45-40-1-dynamic.agg2.shn.lmk-pgs.eircom.net 2.396ms
    3: 86.47.63.222 16.128ms
    4: 159.134.123.13 8.936ms
    5: lag-60-br1-6cr-hcore1-dbn.br1.6cr.border.eircom.net 6.647ms
    6: 72.14.211.86 8.093ms asymm 9
    7: no reply

    #6 is a google address.


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    #3708
    Marlow
    Registered Users Posts: 14,555 ✭✭✭✭Marlow


    peddlelies ís tracing in IPv6, you: Johnboy1951, are tracing in IPv4.

    So that's not really comparable.

    To compare you'd need to use at least the same protocol.

    Johnboy: use mtr or traceroute6 .

    /M


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    #3709
    Johnboy1951
    Registered Users Posts: 13,990 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Marlow wrote: »
    peddlelies ís tracing in IPv6, you: Johnboy1951, are tracing in IPv4.

    So that's not really comparable.

    To compare you'd need to use at least the same protocol.

    Johnboy: use mtr or traceroute6 .

    /M

    :D I have IPv6 disabled :D


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    #3710
    peddlelies
    Closed Accounts Posts: 840 ✭✭✭peddlelies


    It seems back to normal now. If it's bad tomorrow I'll paste an ipv4 trace here


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    #3711
    peddlelies
    Closed Accounts Posts: 840 ✭✭✭peddlelies


    As promised.. IPv4

    Tracing route to boards.ie [104.20.70.96]
    over a maximum of 30 hops:

    1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.254
    2 6 ms 5 ms 4 ms 51-171-48-1-dynamic.agg3.kny.prp-wtd.eircom.net [51.171.48.1]
    3 392 ms 383 ms 382 ms 86.43.11.138
    4 11 ms 9 ms 9 ms 83.174.185.50
    5 8 ms 8 ms 8 ms lag-60-br1-csg-hcore1-dbn.br1.csg.border.eircom.net [86.43.10.157]
    6 382 ms 385 ms 384 ms inex2.as13335.net [194.88.240.61]
    7 387 ms * 385 ms 104.20.70.96


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    #3712
    Marlow
    Registered Users Posts: 14,555 ✭✭✭✭Marlow


    Holy moly. That looks like a contention issue of Eir. If they don't have enough bandwidth across INEX, things are pretty bad. Either them or Cloudflare. But if it was Cloudflare, all providers would see that issue.

    /M


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    #3713
    Deagol
    Registered Users Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭Deagol


    Hi all, wondering if anyone knows answer to this. Rollout map shows rural house is getting FTTH and rollout says first half of 2019.

    But since H1 is nearly over and no sign of anything happening does that mean openeir are just way behind or has NBP announcement meant they have suspended work on rural FTTH?


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    #3714
    Johnboy1951
    Registered Users Posts: 13,990 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Deagol wrote: »
    Hi all, wondering if anyone knows answer to this. Rollout map shows rural house is getting FTTH and rollout says first half of 2019.

    But since H1 is nearly over and no sign of anything happening does that mean openeir are just way behind or has NBP announcement meant they have suspended work on rural FTTH?

    They are behind schedule for the roll out ...... there is a specific thread for the roll out rather than the mapping which would be more suitable for you to get current information.


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    #3715
    Deagol
    Registered Users Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭Deagol


    Johnboy1951 wrote: »
    They are behind schedule for the roll out ...... there is a specific thread for the roll out rather than the mapping which would be more suitable for you to get current information.

    Could you point me in the right direction? I'm not seeing a thread on it?


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    #3716
    Johnboy1951
    Registered Users Posts: 13,990 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Deagol wrote: »
    Could you point me in the right direction? I'm not seeing a thread on it?

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057871133

    more than 500 pages of posts!


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    #3717
    banie01
    Registered Users Posts: 16,474 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    OpenEIR were working on the Fibre cabinet at entrance to our estate yesterday.
    Had a chat with the engineer and he confirmed that he was splicing fibre for Meelick, Old Cratloe Road out towards Clare rather than prepping any FTTH for my estate.

    So imagine my crushing disappointment.
    On the bright side, I should hopefully have both SIRO and OpenEIR FTTH available to me come my contract end date in December.

    I really hope I do, as otherwise I'll be moving back to VM as my actual bandwidth use is hitting hard limits on FTTC.


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    #3718
    CakeLumps
    Registered Users Posts: 15 ✭CakeLumps


    I cant for the life of me understand how they decided on the mapping. I live not too rural, have a few close neighbours who, like me, dont have fibre, and for the unforseeable future, wont be getting it anytime soon. However, we are literally surrounded by houses with fibre. I cant see any logic in it at all.


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    #3719
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    CakeLumps wrote: »
    I cant for the life of me understand how they decided on the mapping. I live not too rural, have a few close neighbours who, like me, dont have fibre, and for the unforseeable future, wont be getting it anytime soon. However, we are literally surrounded by houses with fibre. I cant see any logic in it at all.

    One theory is they deliberately left pockets uncovered to make things difficult for the National Broadband Plan. They could then cover these pockets with their own service once the NBP had wasted money running fibre to that area.
    I've no idea if that theory has merit. Incompetence is always a strong possibility too when talking about Eir.


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    #3720
    johnyhealy
    Registered Users Posts: 16 ✭johnyhealy


    Happen to know where http://www.airwire.ie/avail is pulling info from and if its reliable? When i search for me and my neighbors its showing as coming soon for FTTH
    Met KN lads the other day and they said they were coming down my road but did not know when. Have only seen them running cable and they did seem to put up a nee pole down our lane. Would be delighted to dump Imagine chancers.
    Alec Dirty Pun wrote: »
    FTTH distribution point.

    Enter the Eircode of the premises on:

    http://www.airwire.ie/avail

    or

    https://www.eir.ie/broadband/1000mb-fibre/

    If one or both of those says live for FTTH you should be able to order from most of these ISPs

    https://fibrerollout.ie/rollout-map/where-to-buy/

    If not live it is generally a month or two from the boxes going up until live. Obviously there are exceptions to this but it is a guide. Keep regularly checking the links I posted.


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    #3721
    tsue921i8wljb3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭tsue921i8wljb3


    johnyhealy wrote: »
    Happen to know where http://www.airwire.ie/avail is pulling info from and if its reliable? When i search for me and my neighbors its showing as coming soon for FTTH
    Met KN lads the other day and they said they were coming down my road but did not know when. Have only seen them running cable and they did seem to put up a nee pole down our lane. Would be delighted to dump Imagine chancers.

    They get their information from open eir who build the network so it should be reliable. "Soon" might mean a couple of months though. However I believe once you are getting that message it means you are on the open eir build plan so you should be covered when the area goes live.

    There's a large thread here where Airwire representatives post:

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057871133


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