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The Chillout Zone (Off-Topic Thread)

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,292 ✭✭✭em_cat


    tk123 wrote: »
    YOOOOOOOO :D:D:D:D:D

    I nominated Irish dogs for the Disabled to win a charity grant in work and they've made the shortlist!! I hope they win :D:D:D

    Woof woof! Got paws crossed :<)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,292 ✭✭✭em_cat


    Graces7 wrote: »
    With me it is Pekinese.. The retired nurse next door when I was a child had a ferocious snappy one and it terrified me.

    Pomeranians; one of my mums best friends use to breed them. We had been visiting, I was petting one of the puppies and one of his eyes popped out. The breeder just popped it back in; to my horror while it was in my lap. I was forever traumatised by the experience. Had nightmares for months that every dog I touched would drop an eye.

    I was about 4 yrs at the time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,688 ✭✭✭VonVix


    Ugh, I want to get my boy neutered but I'M nervous! :(

    [Dog Training + Behaviour Nerd]



  • Registered Users Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    VonVix wrote: »
    Ugh, I want to get my boy neutered but I'M nervous! :(

    When one of my cats was done (male), when he came home, he went out, caught a bird and ate it in front of me, glaring the while. We had had words re hunting birds many times so he knew exactly what he was doing..


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,292 ✭✭✭em_cat


    VonVix wrote: »
    Ugh, I want to get my boy neutered but I'M nervous! :(

    Why are you nervous?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,688 ✭✭✭VonVix


    em_cat wrote: »
    Why are you nervous?

    Putting him through anesthetic, the operation, the recovery, the general experience. I'm nervous about putting him through something that will naturally be a bad experience. He's never been away from family/people he trusts before outside the home. :(

    [Dog Training + Behaviour Nerd]



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,027 ✭✭✭✭tk123


    VonVix wrote: »
    Putting him through anesthetic, the operation, the recovery, the general experience. I'm nervous about putting him through something that will naturally be a bad experience. He's never been away from family/people he trusts before outside the home. :(

    Ah it's terrible leaving them in!! Would you feel better if you stayed with him while they sedated him (assuming they'll let you)? That way he'll go asleep with you and when he wakes up it'll all be over!

    I've done that the last few times with Bailey and then I work 5 mins away so they call me and I come and get him immediately. Time before last he was out in 2 mins lol - eh do you want to lie down there Bailey? Boom ZZZZZ :p

    He was actually in on fri and it wasn't great - he had a half dose and moved away because he had only been in 3 weeks before so knew he was getting an injection in the bum and that it was going to hurt.. so it didn't knock him out enough and he had to have a second shot... At that stage he was annoyed with us all and had to be muzzled and we had to get another pair of hands to hold him! The vet had thought he might need the other cruciate done but it's fine..the knee he had done last year is very painful so we'll be upping his laser so plenty of opportunity for him to go in and be petted and get loads of treats so he'll love them all again... Only thing is that I had asked them to check his mouth (because of the jaw thing our old vet would check him all the time) and one of his teeth has a hole in it(!)... they said no rush with it but we'll have to go through it all again! >_<


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    I tried that with the dog once.

    She was fine and sleepy when i left

    I got as far as the car park and the howling started...OH MY!
    A couple of kind old ladies persuaded me not to go back in as they were very good with dogs..

    When I got back to collect her, it was the vet who was in bits. "She is TERRIFIED!"

    There she was, at the back of the cage, and as soon as she heard me, bullet from a gun
    tk123 wrote: »
    Ah it's terrible leaving them in!! Would you feel better if you stayed with him while they sedated him (assuming they'll let you)? That way he'll go asleep with you and when he wakes up it'll all be over!

    I've done that the last few times with Bailey and then I work 5 mins away so they call me and I come and get him immediately. Time before last he was out in 2 mins lol - eh do you want to lie down there Bailey? Boom ZZZZZ :p

    He was actually in on fri and it wasn't great - he had a half dose and moved away because he had only been in 3 weeks before so knew he was getting an injection in the bum and that it was going to hurt.. so it didn't knock him out enough and he had to have a second shot... At that stage he was annoyed with us all and had to be muzzled and we had to get another pair of hands to hold him! The vet had thought he might need the other cruciate done but it's fine..the knee he had done last year is very painful so we'll be upping his laser so plenty of opportunity for him to go in and be petted and get loads of treats so he'll love them all again... Only thing is that I had asked them to check his mouth (because of the jaw thing our old vet would check him all the time) and one of his teeth has a hole in it(!)... they said no rush with it but we'll have to go through it all again! >_<


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,027 ✭✭✭✭tk123


    hehe well Bailey normally cries when he hears me or if he's really had enough of them 3 barks in a row over and over - that's his distress signal! :o


  • Registered Users Posts: 51 ✭✭eirbear1989


    VonVix wrote: »
    Ugh, I want to get my boy neutered but I'M nervous! :(

    I was too I cried when I found out they could fit him in, I cried when I dropped him in, and I cried with happiness when I picked him up. I got my fella done the Friday of June bank holiday weekend and I do not regret it one bit. You can PM me if you have any questions. He is fully recovered and went out swimming yesterday evening so he was delighted (the keeping him inside with no exercise and the cone is the hardest part.)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,292 ✭✭✭em_cat


    I never worry about the surgery or the aftercare, I just worry about everyone’s hearing or whether Mr C stresses out other animals from barking.

    Apparently he doesn’t but will get very annoyed if another barker is in so I usually just camp outside until he can be collected.

    Luckily, I have some medical training so our Vets will release post op.

    But I would say though, I really wish they would introduce the chemical castration injection like in Australia and the kennel cough injections as I’ve known some dogs to have really injured themselves.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,688 ✭✭✭VonVix


    tk123 wrote: »
    Ah it's terrible leaving them in!! Would you feel better if you stayed with him while they sedated him (assuming they'll let you)? That way he'll go asleep with you and when he wakes up it'll all be over!

    I've done that the last few times with Bailey and then I work 5 mins away so they call me and I come and get him immediately. Time before last he was out in 2 mins lol - eh do you want to lie down there Bailey? Boom ZZZZZ :p

    He was actually in on fri and it wasn't great - he had a half dose and moved away because he had only been in 3 weeks before so knew he was getting an injection in the bum and that it was going to hurt.. so it didn't knock him out enough and he had to have a second shot... At that stage he was annoyed with us all and had to be muzzled and we had to get another pair of hands to hold him! The vet had thought he might need the other cruciate done but it's fine..the knee he had done last year is very painful so we'll be upping his laser so plenty of opportunity for him to go in and be petted and get loads of treats so he'll love them all again... Only thing is that I had asked them to check his mouth (because of the jaw thing our old vet would check him all the time) and one of his teeth has a hole in it(!)... they said no rush with it but we'll have to go through it all again! >_<

    Honestly I'd love it if they could give me something to essentially knock him unconscious at home, because I know the moment he's going to see the vet practice he will flip, last time the vet shouted at him because he was barking in the room because he could hear other dogs barking, or when poked his tummy making him scream when he was suffering with HGE. They've always been so good with our other animals, given they never protested at being there, but my big boy will struggle given the times he was there he was REALLY unwell, I know he won't have forgotten it.

    [Dog Training + Behaviour Nerd]



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,027 ✭✭✭✭tk123


    VonVix wrote: »
    Honestly I'd love it if they could give me something to essentially knock him unconscious at home, because I know the moment he's going to see the vet practice he will flip, last time the vet shouted at him because he was barking in the room because he could hear other dogs barking, or when poked his tummy making him scream when he was suffering with HGE. They've always been so good with our other animals, given they never protested at being there, but my big boy will struggle given the times he was there he was REALLY unwell, I know he won't have forgotten it.


    Ah no thats terrible :( I'll admit that I wasn't that impressed last year as his handling went out the window when he'd been there - I'm assuming they didn't really listen to me about his handling when he's afraid and maybe thought I was a bit precious eg not giving liquid metacam as he doesn't like the syringe coming at him etc etc etc but OMG they're fantastic with him. Even last week - the vet decided she wasn't going to give another injection because she needs him to trust her so she can examine him and just stuff like that.

    Bailey's so at ease in the waiting room there he just sits with his ball - he did that once ever in the old vets but it was so cramped at everyone on top of each other - this one is a bit bigger so more space and he just chills out.

    Could they come out to the car and sedate him?


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    tk123 wrote: »
    hehe well Bailey normally cries when he hears me or if he's really had enough of them 3 barks in a row over and over - that's his distress signal! :o

    I know it well. a collie nearby does it for hours on end in the small hours. Had serious words but they claim they cannot hear it!

    Started at 2 am last night so I turned all the lights on and it soon stopped!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,053 ✭✭✭Bells21


    I've just watched on of those viral videos that pop up every now and again. It was of a beagle who had apparently been raiding its owners presses so they decided to use something called 'scat mats' which apparently carry a 'mild electrical charge'. So they put these in front of the presses so the dog would be 'mildly shocked' if it approached the presses. Well it didn't work, the dog spent time seeing which part of the mat it could touch and then just grabbed an edge with its teeth and pulled the mat away from the press. I've seen it all now, 1 that the owners felt the need to shock their dog and 2 the level of genius demonstrated by the dog!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,292 ✭✭✭em_cat


    Bells21 wrote: »
    I've just watched on of those viral videos that pop up every now and again. It was of a beagle who had apparently been raiding its owners presses so they decided to use something called 'scat mats' which apparently carry a 'mild electrical charge'. So they put these in front of the presses so the dog would be 'mildly shocked' if it approached the presses. Well it didn't work, the dog spent time seeing which part of the mat it could touch and then just grabbed an edge with its teeth and pulled the mat away from the press. I've seen it all now, 1 that the owners felt the need to shock their dog and 2 the level of genius demonstrated by the dog!!!

    So glad you added the bit at the end! I’ve spent a fair amount of time in the States as my step father was an ‘merican... being a Brit I was always so shocked when I came across the level of cruelty & tbh pure laziness that it was to use things like ‘scat mats’.

    They also use them for keeping cats off the counter-top. I was horrified to say the least...

    That’s why I always think would you sit your baby on that or put one around your baby’s neck? Usually gets people thinking...

    Some training & child locks easi peasi


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,292 ✭✭✭em_cat


    VonVix wrote: »
    Honestly I'd love it if they could give me something to essentially knock him unconscious at home, because I know the moment he's going to see the vet practice he will flip, last time the vet shouted at him because he was barking in the room because he could hear other dogs barking, or when poked his tummy making him scream when he was suffering with HGE. They've always been so good with our other animals, given they never protested at being there, but my big boy will struggle given the times he was there he was REALLY unwell, I know he won't have forgotten it.

    A vet screaming at a dog because he’s barking along with the other dogs in the practice??? I can’t imagine any of the vets I know or use would do that.

    I’m truly sorry to hear that...


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,688 ✭✭✭VonVix


    em_cat wrote: »
    A vet screaming at a dog because he’s barking along with the other dogs in the practice??? I can’t imagine any of the vets I know or use would do that.

    I’m truly sorry to hear that...

    There was a dog in the other room being seen to and was squealing/barking as he was apparently being handled, which seemed to upset my boy (he reacts to different noises dogs make, he goes all gooey when he hears puppies whimper, he gets giddy when he hears playful noises and he worries when he hears a 'worried' dog. Bloody emotional shepherd) I'd get him done elsewhere, but it's tough when you don't know what a vet is like in terms of their knowledge with how to deal with medical issues.

    [Dog Training + Behaviour Nerd]



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,292 ✭✭✭em_cat


    VonVix wrote: »
    There was a dog in the other room being seen to and was squealing/barking as he was apparently being handled, which seemed to upset my boy (he reacts to different noises dogs make, he goes all gooey when he hears puppies whimper, he gets giddy when he hears playful noises and he worries when he hears a 'worried' dog. Bloody emotional shepherd) I'd get him done elsewhere, but it's tough when you don't know what a vet is like in terms of their knowledge with how to deal with medical issues.

    Does your vet have a “quiet’ time for nervous dogs or could they sedate him in the car?


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,027 ✭✭✭✭tk123


    VonVix wrote: »
    I'd get him done elsewhere, but it's tough when you don't know what a vet is like in terms of their knowledge with how to deal with medical issues.

    If its any help we go to Cara Vet in Ballycoolin/Blanchardstown and I find them great. I loved our time our old Vet and went to her when she moved but the vet we’re seeing now specialises in pain management and Baileys issues are kind of niche so we need a niche Vet. Who’s sympathetic that he’s in pain and backs off of she hurts him etc etc


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,292 ✭✭✭em_cat


    Ok, so just spent 2 hours trying to get an injured pigeon that had been chased by kids in behind a sliding door. The kids had been kicking at it in an attempt to step on it.

    Now have an injured pigeon, 2 guinea pigs and a neurotic dog. In an apartment.

    I don’t even like pigeons...


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,002 ✭✭✭SillyMangoX


    We’re puppy sitting for a week for my friends parents while they are on holiday because the pup came into heat and couldn’t go into kennels.
    Needless to say, the cats noses are very out of joint! Surprisingly, they are reacting better than we expected, a lot better than anytime we’ve brought a cat into the house!


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    em_cat wrote: »
    Ok, so just spent 2 hours trying to get an injured pigeon that had been chased by kids in behind a sliding door. The kids had been kicking at it in an attempt to step on it.

    Now have an injured pigeon, 2 guinea pigs and a neurotic dog. In an apartment.

    I don’t even like pigeons...

    Pigeons are better than those kids.. Well done..


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,292 ✭✭✭em_cat


    Graces7 wrote: »
    Pigeons are better than those kids.. Well done..

    Ta, not sure my neighbor is too happy with me though, his bulldog is going insane now.

    We are taking it to the wildlife sanctuary in Kildare this afternoon so at least it will be cared for properly and then released.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,094 ✭✭✭The Cool


    If any of you are like me and every time it's hot, buy an inflatable paddling pool only for it to get torn by doggy claws, Aldi have a plastic water /sand pit for 19.99. Good and sturdy and hopefully a help for this heat!


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I've had the worst few days with my two dogs.

    On Wednesday morning Hiro did some diarrhea. Which was strange but wasn't too concerned. Later that morning he vomited in the living room. Now of course all the talk is of keeping your dogs safe from heatstroke but my two hadn't been outside except that one time to do their business and had come straight back in. He was showing no other signs of heatstroke and when I was cleaning his sick, I saw it had lots of little lumps of melon rind. So I guessed he got his paws on rind the day before and had a little tummy upset. Nothing to panic about.

    Except then he didn't want to drink. And with the heat, even with the dogs inside, I started to panic about him dehydrating. I managed to get some fluid into him with his dinner (just chicken and rice) and gave him a cool bath etc etc to be extra extra safe.

    On Thursday morning he still wasn't drinking and even though through hardship I'd gotten water into him the day before I wasn't comfortable letting it go any longer in this weather and was all set to book a vets appointment when all of sudden he had a bowel movement on the kitchen floor that was more water than poop and more blood than water.

    This is when I entered full hysterical panic mode. My partner was working so I had to have my mum meet me at the vet to keep me calm!! Then in the waiting room, blood started pouring out of his bum! (This is when I started crying!) The vet examined him and was happy that he didn't have heatstroke and wasn't at all dehydrated (how did I manage that miracle?!) So he was admitted for tests and fluids etc.

    And then a couple of hours later, Khali started vomiting and passing blood. So straight back to vets and she's admitted. They were both kept for about 24hours on IV fluids and antibiotics. Turns out they both have really severe gastroenteritis. :( I didn't get a wink of sleep without them but they came home yesterday and are vastly improved already.

    And even though it wasn't anything to do with the heat I'm in full paranoid mode about it now!!!

    Edited to add: jeez this is long! Sorry about that!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,053 ✭✭✭Bells21


    Oh my word, that must have been so scary and stressful for you!! Thanks goodness they're both doing ok now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,224 ✭✭✭jellybear


    Awh BuileBeag that's awful!! Such a scary thing to happen. Glad to hear they're both doing okay!


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,601 ✭✭✭muddypaws


    Glad they're both OK, scary couple of days for you all


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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,027 ✭✭✭✭tk123


    OMG you must have been terrified! :( Glad they’re on the mend.


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