Formula E

That whole car swap thing looks ridiculous. Do they have a minimum time they have to spend there?

And when I was watching it said yellow flag so I thought they were under safety car, but didn't see a safety car. Nope, they're just that slow...

prost should be banned for that. disgraceful driving, looked like heidfeld had him

at least heidfelds ok, not going that slow to get flipped up like that

astrofluff wrote: »

Dirty driving by Prost. Very dangerous going crown-first into the catch fence.

There was a layer or two of modern safety barrier there which seemed to help but did look dangerous

djimi wrote: »

Heidfeld is very lucky; the way he went into that fence head first...

Extremely dangerous from Prost. FIA need to make a strong statement about that sort of block (a race ban would not be out of order).

Not sure really what to make of that race. The racing is decent enough; the cars can run close together which is good. The overall spectacle is a bit nonsense; stupid music makes it feel like a bad video game and the pit stops need to be seriously revised (no need for manditory stop time). They need to lose the gimmicks, stop trying so hard and let the racing speak for itself.

Could do with visiting some proper circuits also; a season of street racing is not going to be terribly exciting.

Agreed about Prost that dangerous and stupid what he done. He had done a great race up till then leading it. I think he realised Heidfied had him and moved over maybe to try and stop him but was too late. Instead of letting Heidfield win and him geting 2nd place they both now end up getting no points.
Glad to see Heidfield was ok do after that crash which was quit a big crash.

I enjoyed the race with the cars running close together and some passing too. I never noticed the music. Agreed that the pit stops are silly. Why can,t they just have one car and have a pitt top to change the batterys when they go low it would make a lot more sense. I was thinking that too unlike Formula 1 where it is a different set up for the cars for each track like the downforce on the cars and where some cars are better in the straights and others in the fast or slow corners or a bit of both these are just at street circuits all the time with very little to change in the cars it could get boring.

Shane_ef wrote: »

So clearly Prost was involved in a completely different final turn incident from the one we all watched.. stupid comments in his interview

His father thought him well...

To be honest, until they can come up with a way to run the car for 40+ laps on a single battery its probably not going to be anything more than an interesting concept. Id prefer to see a two race format with each race being in the region of 30 laps; this at least would be preferable to seeing drivers changing car mid race. A single 25 lap 45 minute race left me feeling a bit short changed this morning; the race barely got going before it was over.

antodeco wrote: »

Seemed interesting enough. A few tweaks will see this doing well.

The chassis is probably a bit light for a V10 so will need to be beefed up a bit

I guess the crash is kind of good publicity for the series added a bit more interest, bit more drama, showed that there's a bit of speed there, just a pity Heidfeld didn't try throw a punch or something when he ran after Prost

ednwireland wrote: »

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/115856

10place penalty for prost

prost using the 'i didn't see you mate' excuse

Well at least it's not a 5place penalty
I guess if it happens again he'll get some sort harsher punishment

Wonder what Prost Senior made of the move, didn't see any quotes or interview

Shane_ef wrote: »

Banned - No
Harsher penalty - Yes
Mistake - I think it was more of a calculated move, the smidsy excuse doesn't stand when your in a fight with a faster driver(at that point of the race) for the lead and come to the last corner.

I wouldn't hang the guy just yet, as with all racing incidents we've dragged them out into all sorts of detail but we always seem to forget that these things happen in a split second. It's barely enough time to make the decision never mind cross reference it with the logic centre and experience libraries before it's sent off to the muscles.

Mistakes happen, he more than likely won't be making this one again. Lesson learned.

ScumLord wrote: »

I wouldn't hang the guy just yet, as with all racing incidents we've dragged them out into all sorts of detail but we always seem to forget that these things happen in a split second. It's barely enough time to make the decision never mind cross reference it with the logic centre and experience libraries before it's sent off to the muscles.

Mistakes happen, he more than likely won't be making this one again. Lesson learned.

F1 drivers drive even faster and they very rarely make a mistake like that. Can you imagine if that had of been an F1 car its very possible it could have been a lot worse. If he can not think fast then he should not be driving fast like that. He should have been anticipating and thinking what could happen. He also should have checked all his mirrors before moving not just his right one. I don,think what he done was a mistake there was loads of room between him and Heidfields car before he ramed into the side of him. He done it on purpose because he knew he was not going to win thee race. It was silly and stupid what he done. He would of had 2nd place and points instead now he has no points no trophy and has a 10 place grid penalty.

AMKC wrote: »

F1 drivers drive even faster and they very rarely make a mistake like that.

Of course they do, Webber and vettel have done something similar, I think button got caught up in something similar.

It is true that F1 drivers don't have that many accidents considering they're in some of the fastest cars but they are the best of the best. In the top echelons of any sport the best are usually the best not because their skill is so much greater than everyone elses but because they don't make as many mistakes.

He done it on purpose because he knew he was not going to win thee race.

So you think he decided no points are better than 18 points?

Using the above video as an example
At 16 secs Prost gives a look to his right, a very good look even turning his head to check for Heidfeld,
Before completing his move (to drivers) left he doesn't give as good a look, there is no way to know if he even checked his mirror, Why?
Also if you play his move slowly it looks like a early dive for the corner except the corner is much further away, given the way the rear end kicks out and the angle the car is at as he moves across.

Another possibility that only occurred to me recently is that if he did check his mirror and his aim was to position his car wheel to wheel with Heidfeld for the last corner but when he accelerated to make the move the torque kicked the back of the car of momentarily losing traction and then when the car regained traction it "speared" into Heidfelds

However this all happened with just a few seconds, I still consider his move reckless and desperate, I however don't think his intention was to crash, move to force Heidfeld into a situation where he would have to cut the last corner to make a clean pass.

It's a racing incident, it happened quickly and may have just been a panic move.

I really do wonder about if you hear another car when you have earplugs in and your own V10/V8/V6 at similar engine revs behind your back. I think it is all relative if you hear the other car or not.

ScumLord wrote: »

Of course they do, Webber and vettel have done something similar, I think button got caught up in something similar.

Yes and the one between Webber and Vettel was Vettels fault. Of course it worked to Vettels advantage in the end and not Webbers as Webber should have and probably would have won the drivers championship that year if Vettel had not have crashed into him in that race in Turkey in 2010.


It is true that F1 drivers don't have that many accidents considering they're in some of the fastest cars but they are the best of the best. In the top echelons of any sport the best are usually the best not because their skill is so much greater than everyone elses but because they don't make as many mistakes.

So you think he decided no points are better than 18 points?

No I don,t think he decided that it would have been very silly if he did think that especially in the first race when its all the play for. Maybe he just meant to put Heidfield off and did not realise that touching him with the car the way he did would cause him to crash like he did and wreck his own car too.

Yes and the one between Webber and Vettel was Vettels fault. Of course it worked to Vettels advantage in the end and not Webbers as Webber should have and probably would have won the drivers championship that year if Vettel had not have crashed into him in that race in Turkey in 2010.

IMO the music was great.

Just went to see if Formula e was on this weekend - nope, not back on for 57 days. That's some time to recharge the cars. :eek:

Seemingly the Malaysian PM wanted to be there to see it so it had to be postponed