Team Value

OneColdHand · 06-01-2015 6:46pm

TV: 107.5
RV: 104.6

CrabieCrawford · 06-01-2015 7:25pm

Tv: l06.9
Rv: l03.8

G1032 · 09-01-2015 11:15pm

iroced wrote: »

In the end this whole team value thing is all about a couple of £0.1m which can make a huge difference (e.g. sorry G1032 to rub salt but you know what I'm talking about :P).

It absolutely is about a couple of 0.1's. No doubt. They can really hurt when you're on the wrong side of them!!

But, in saying that, I've not chased price rises this season like I did last year. Last season I took too many hits chasing rises and ended up obsessed with getting players in before they went up 0.2 or 0.3. Prices rose so fast last season though that it made it very difficult to take a step back and evaluate and instead we were forced into a lot of early and transfers. A lot of them never worked out and forced me into hits then to repair the damage.

I swore I'd not make them mistakes again and I've not made as many transfers and I think (without looking at dates etc from transfer data) that I've made much more transfers later in the week. Yes, it's bitten me in the @ss this season with one particular player but so be it. That's the way the cookie crumbles.

I'm enjoying the game much more this year than last and the slower rising of player prices is definitely a factor in this enjoyment. I can sit back for an extra coupe of days and think about a transfer, weigh it up and then make the decision.

Now, all I need to do is find that bleedin' 0.1 to get Terry in:P:)

TV 106.9
RV 104.2

iroced · 09-01-2015 11:58pm

G1032 wrote: »

I'm enjoying the game much more this year than last and the slower rising of player prices is definitely a factor in this enjoyment. I can sit back for an extra coupe of days and think about a transfer, weigh it up and then make the decision.

100% agree with you on this. It did work in my favour last year but I found it tiring to constantly watch out for the speed of the price changes (not to be priced out).

The way it works this season is way better. I'd like to see it without the WC transfers excluded from the calculations too (even if I did take advantage of holding my WC, at least price wise, this week). Just to check how much an effect WC have with this better weighted system.

G1032 wrote: »

Now, all I need to do is find that bleedin' 0.1 to get Terry in:P:)

TV 106.9
RV 104.2

I think Boyd to a cheaper 5th mid is the quickest major-team-readjustment-less way to reach it

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wonski · 10-01-2015 3:55am

wonski wrote: »

106.8
104.2 resale

WC played ( 7 transfers out)

Tv: 105.9
Rv: 104.4 resale

Happy with that.

machiavellianme · 10-01-2015 9:37am

Am I the only person who dislikes the new system? It's one less strategy to success. The only difference between the top 3 in my main league seems to be captain choice this year. I've been playing since the start and enjoyed the price changes, in fact I usually prioritised augmented team value till Christmas and then have the dream team for the run in. Now that's not possible for the first time in almost a decade.

JR6 · 10-01-2015 10:02am

TV 106.9
Resale 104.3
Happy enough with this and hope for a few more rises before my wildcard. Although if aguero plays and scores today I'll be doing it tonight!

G1032 · 10-01-2015 10:38am

machiavellianme wrote: »

Am I the only person who dislikes the new system? It's one less strategy to success. The only difference between the top 3 in my main league seems to be captain choice this year. I've been playing since the start and enjoyed the price changes, in fact I usually prioritised augmented team value till Christmas and then have the dream team for the run in. Now that's not possible for the first time in almost a decade.

Well it's very much each to their own but last year was too crazy imo. The price rises were crazy fast and as iroced said it was just tiring constantly looking at the rises. I for one don't miss it.

sneachtafear · 11-01-2015 5:56pm

I like this new system as well.

Copper_pipe · 12-01-2015 2:06pm

If I know a rival has a team value of 101.3 and 0.6M in the bank, is there any way I can calculate the resale value of his team?
He has yet to activate the January Wildcard so Im trying to think how many of the big hitters he can squeeze in.

8-10 · 12-01-2015 2:10pm

Copper_pipe wrote: »

If I know a rival has a team value of 101.3 and 0.6M in the bank, is there any way I can calculate the resale value of his team?
He has yet to activate the January Wildcard so Im trying to think how many of the big hitters he can squeeze in.

If you have the time you can look at his transfer history page and use a price website to tell what the purchase price of his current team would have been on the date he transferred in each player. Then by looking at their current price you could work out what his selling price for each would be. Add them all up + his 0.6 bank will give you his value

FHFC · 12-01-2015 2:12pm

Copper_pipe wrote: »

If I know a rival has a team value of 101.3 and 0.6M in the bank, is there any way I can calculate the resale value of his team?
He has yet to activate the January Wildcard so Im trying to think how many of the big hitters he can squeeze in.

If you really want to you can go to his transfer history on one tab and the FISO price changes history on the other and list out the PP (purchase price) for all his team. Then by referring to their CP (current price) you can work out an SP (Selling price) for his squad, basically the same info you'd have on the data view on your own transfers page.

Ziegler1988 · 20-04-2015 3:05pm

Been a while since we did an update here. How's everyone looking for the final run in?

TV: 106.0m
SV: 104.2m

for me

Swiper the fox · 20-04-2015 3:11pm

I am actually very proud of my absolutely shocking team value at this stage, 103.8m.
I haven't chased value or based my team around risers and fallers, I'd love to have more money to play with but I'm very happy with my season.

jimmii · 20-04-2015 3:18pm

Swiper the fox wrote: »

I am actually very proud of my absolutely shocking team value at this stage, 103.8m.
I haven't chased value or based my team around risers and fallers, I'd love to have more money to play with but I'm very happy with my season.

Thats shocking bad! Historically I always have a very low TV for some reason but even I have got it upto 104.1!

After playing my WC my selling value now would be 103.2 only player I have with any "profit" tied up in is Kane.

Ziegler1988 · 20-04-2015 3:24pm

Swiper the fox wrote: »

I am actually very proud of my absolutely shocking team value at this stage, 103.8m.
I haven't chased value or based my team around risers and fallers, I'd love to have more money to play with but I'm very happy with my season.

You can have the inaugural Jermain Cuadrado Award for Worst TV

seklly · 20-04-2015 3:36pm

At 107 (104.7 resale), peaked in gameweek 30 at 107.6. Not worried about risers or fallers any more, just player fitness for the final sprint!

SantryRed · 20-04-2015 4:37pm

At 107.9m TV with a resale of 105.5m. Very surprised at that because I haven't been looking at TV half as much as last year.

qwabercd · 20-04-2015 5:02pm

106.2 resale value.

Mr.Prodston · 20-04-2015 5:07pm

Swiper the fox wrote: »

I am actually very proud of my absolutely shocking team value at this stage, 103.8m.
I haven't chased value or based my team around risers and fallers, I'd love to have more money to play with but I'm very happy with my season.

Is that resale or bog standard TV?

Cos my resale is 103.6 and I'd very much like that Jermain Cuadrado award that was mentioned

105.3 otherwise and I didn't pay any attention to the rises at all this year.

alchemist33 · 20-04-2015 5:11pm

Who the **** is Jermain Cuadrado???

Swiper the fox · 20-04-2015 5:33pm

Mr.Prodston wrote: »

Is that resale or bog standard TV?

Cos my resale is 103.6 and I'd very much like that Jermain Cuadrado award that was mentioned

105.3 otherwise and I didn't pay any attention to the rises at all this year.

I wish it was resale, well actually I dont. As I said I'm quite proud of it.
Resale is 102.3

iroced · 20-04-2015 7:12pm

TV £108.0m. Resale £105.9m.

Very surprised at how high it still is since I stopped bothering about team value for over 2 months now.

Up to now I can say I played that "team value game" pretty well. I built my team value without taking many related hits, managed to afford most premium players I was eyeing, was able to sell and lose value on Sanchez a couple of months ago to give me a flexibility I took advantage of so far and should continue doing if everything goes according to plan, did eventually not lose out too much lately from my "plummetting" players and in the end will hopefully benefit from my current high enough resale value for the run-in.

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Just checked my figures from last year. Don't have my resale for GW33 but at GW32 my resale value was at £109.4m with £114.2m TV.

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@ Swiper. Is it the first year you perform so well with such a low team value?

Swiper the fox · 20-04-2015 7:30pm

iroced wrote: »

TV £108.0m. Resale £105.9m.

Very surprised at how high it still is since I stopped bothering about team value for over 2 months now.

Up to now I can say I played that "team value game" pretty well. I built my team value without taking many related hits, managed to afford most premium players I was eyeing, was able to sell and lose value on Sanchez a couple of months ago to give me a flexibility I took advantage of so far and should continue doing if everything goes according to plan, did eventually not lose out too much lately from my "plummetting" players and in the end will hopefully benefit from my current high enough resale value for the run-in.

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Just checked my figures from last year. Don't have my resale for GW33 but at GW32 my resale value was at £109.4m with £114.2m TV.

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@ Swiper. Is it the first year you perform so well with such a low team value?

Last year was my first full season, I started in week 3 the year before. I had terrible team value last year also and I finished in 11k. I care very little about it to be honest, I know fellas who are terrible and they spend the whole time chasing price rises on players they've never even seen play. In my league with mates the guy in second has a team value 7.1m more than me but he's 210 points behind me.

Sooner or Later · 20-04-2015 10:07pm

TV 106.2 RV 104.3

iroced · 20-04-2015 11:17pm

Swiper the fox wrote: »

Last year was my first full season, I started in week 3 the year before. I had terrible team value last year also and I finished in 11k. I care very little about it to be honest, I know fellas who are terrible and they spend the whole time chasing price rises on players they've never even seen play. In my league with mates the guy in second has a team value 7.1m more than me but he's 210 points behind me.

Ah yeah chasing team value just for the sake of it is pointless but I somehow got the feeling that building your team value (at least) up to the January WC was almost essential. It's very interesting to see people (like you) with opposite strategies perform as well if not better

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jimmii · 20-04-2015 11:37pm

iroced wrote: »

Ah yeah chasing team value just for the sake of it is pointless but I somehow got the feeling that building your team value (at least) up to the January WC was almost essential. It's very interesting to see people (like you) with opposite strategies perform as well if not better .

Back when prices were a lot more volatile you really couldn't afford to get left behind but the difference isn't as big now.

FHFC · 20-04-2015 11:52pm

I'm down to 107.5 now after being up around 109. Resale is 106.

I prefer to have the flexibility of the extra cash, and I chase value up till Christmas and keep and eye on it for a while after that. If there are form players in cheaper brackets, and there are loads at present, there's no huge advantage, however if Costa hadn't got injured for example, it could easily be different.

I'd rather be looking at it than looking for it. The main advantage has been no pressure to make early transfer as I've been able to let rises and drops decimate me this last few weeks and still have loads of cash.

Interesting that iroced who was amazed at my numbers earlier in the season now has a more valuable team. Goes to show that having the right players in your team will coincide with increasing value. My principle is that if you watch that and time transfers, as well as catch the odd price bandwagon early season you can have good value without costing rank.

iroced · 21-04-2015 9:19am

jimmii wrote: »

Back when prices were a lot more volatile you really couldn't afford to get left behind but the difference isn't as big now.

I'd tend to agree with you and this season is certainly exceptional with so many cheaper options performing largely above expectations (particularly forward with e.g. Kane & Austin).
But Swiper's example from last year seems to show a different strategy could also work. Then I don't know what he calls a "terrible" team value.

FHFC wrote: »

I'm down to 107.5 now after being up around 109. Resale is 106.

I prefer to have the flexibility of the extra cash, and I chase value up till Christmas and keep and eye on it for a while after that. If there are form players in cheaper brackets, and there are loads at present, there's no huge advantage, however if Costa hadn't got injured for example, it could easily be different.

I'd rather be looking at it than looking for it. The main advantage has been no pressure to make early transfer as I've been able to let rises and drops decimate me this last few weeks and still have loads of cash.

Interesting that iroced who was amazed at my numbers earlier in the season now has a more valuable team. Goes to show that having the right players in your team will coincide with increasing value. My principle is that if you watch that and time transfers, as well as catch the odd price bandwagon early season you can have good value without costing rank.

Ahah

My resale value is £0.1m less than yours though

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That said I play the same way as you and if I can make a top 20k finish it'll be my 4th in a row in 4 full seasons playing the game. So I guess it "validates" this approach

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Your point about Costa (and you could add Sturridge too) is very true and if Sanchez largely outscores Ozil in the remaining games, Aguero continues scoring and Silva's back to its Christmas returns, the high team value may eventually play its role this year...

Swiper the fox · 21-04-2015 9:59am

I'd love to have a great team value, it would make things much easier, last year it could have been Ramsey and Yaya or lack thereof for most of the season that cost me, however I got quite lucky with budget players at different times, Adam Johnson and Mirallas come to mind here.
This year it was obvious early on that my team value was never gonna be huge, none of the early season bandwagons appealed to me. I've had the luxury of making my transfers on Friday or Saturday, this has definitely earned me points on a few occasions and meant I have fielded a reasonably strong team every week.
Defoe cost me a lot but like I said a few weeks ago if I hadn't held him for so long there's no way I would have gotten Benteke for the Dgw, the single best decision I've made all year, pure luck but I'll take it.

Copper_pipe · 21-04-2015 10:01am

Total Value 105.6
Resale 103.1

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