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N25/N30 - New Ross Bypass [open to traffic]

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,174 ✭✭✭✭josip


    M17, that looks like it's taken from Sliabh Coillte?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,723 ✭✭✭serfboard


    josip wrote: »
    For those of us living nearby, it's 'the bridge' or if we're feeling particularly verbose, 'the new bridge'.
    I know a road in Mayo colloquially called "The New Line", even though it was built 70 years ago!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,893 ✭✭✭allthedoyles


    The bridge is at the Pink Rock. It will be known as the Pink Rock bridge , regardless.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,967 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    "N25 New Ross Bypass Bridge"

    Done


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 387 ✭✭NedNew2


    Bypass now due to open in summer next year according to the New Ross Standard.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,480 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    NedNew2 wrote: »
    Bypass now due to open in summer next year according to the New Ross Standard.

    Sounds like poor enough progress. All in all we had a brilliant summer for construction works and I don't see why things aren't more advanced particularly the bridge. Saying a poor winter may delay the cranes seems silly in that context.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    JPA wrote: »
    Well, there already is a Barrow bridge, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrow_Bridge

    And now there’s a new barrow bridge


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,321 ✭✭✭m17


    RFK bridge 02/10/18 pics form deskgram
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,827 ✭✭✭godskitchen


    serfboard wrote: »
    I know a road in Mayo colloquially called "The New Line", even though it was built 70 years ago!

    There seems to be a few of them in Mayo, I know of 2 at least.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,321 ✭✭✭m17


    New ross bypass September 2016-2018


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,795 ✭✭✭Isambard


    does this link to the Gorey to New Ross/Ennisccorthy road being built currently?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,174 ✭✭✭✭josip


    No


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,115 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    Isambard wrote: »
    does this link to the Gorey to New Ross/Ennisccorthy road being built currently?

    the Irish Times mentioned the "Gorey to New Ross" scheme in their budget summary yesterday. Paper of record :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,795 ✭✭✭Isambard


    that's what i thought. Not being local I can't see the overall scheme of things in my head, it looks to the outsider as If New Ross is getting bypassed on the one hand and a new route into it on the other.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,115 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    Isambard wrote: »
    that's what i thought. Not being local I can't see the overall scheme of things in my head, it looks to the outsider as If New Ross is getting bypassed on the one hand and a new route into it on the other.

    the (separate) Enniscorthy bypass includes a link road towards New Ross (connecting to the existing N30) but it doesn't connect to the New Ross bypass.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,795 ✭✭✭Isambard


    Looking at the map, it would seem to me an N25 New Ross Bypass to N30 link (and thus to the N11 and Dublin would be useful). Maybe as they have the M9 in the area , this was thought to be liable to criticism if they did it.

    The New Ross link road seems to come in quite close to New Ross as far as I could make out


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,115 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    Isambard wrote: »
    Looking at the map, it would seem to me an N25 New Ross Bypass to N30 link (and thus to the N11 and Dublin would be useful). Maybe as they have the M9 in the area , this was thought to be liable to criticism if they did it.

    The New Ross link road seems to come in quite close to New Ross as far as I could make out

    the N30 is a pretty good single carriageway road - once the New Ross and Enniscorthy bypasses are complete it will be quick enough to access the N11 from New Ross


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,174 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Might be useful, especially for me :) but traffic volumes don't justify it.
    Also looking at the route chosen for the Enniscorthy bypass, you can see that the Waterford - South Dublin route was not a significant consideration in the planning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,795 ✭✭✭Isambard


    so if you are driving from Waterford to Gorey, you'll cross the new bridge and then head back on the current N25 towards New Ross and join the N30 there, through (as I recall as I seldom go that way) an industrial estate, past a school and then to a T junction with the R700 (the original N30)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,174 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Isambard wrote: »
    so if you are driving from Waterford to Gorey, you'll cross the new bridge and then head back on the current N25 towards New Ross and join the N30 there, through (as I recall as I seldom go that way) an industrial estate, past a school and then to a T junction with the R700 (the original N30)


    Nope, you'll no longer go near the town or along the Boisin as you described

    (Scroll down for a map)
    http://www.n25newross.ie/traffic-management/


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,795 ✭✭✭Isambard


    well then, isn't that the new link road I asked about in my original post?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,115 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    Isambard wrote: »
    well then, isn't that the new link road I asked about in my original post?

    your question was "does this link to the Gorey to New Ross/Ennisccorthy road being built currently?" which is pretty vague as there are 2 roads being built and they don't connect directly to each other, but they do both connect to either end of the the N30.

    you can see where they each end here:

    HHNsqUd.png


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,795 ✭✭✭Isambard


    well that's what I was asking and pretty vague as I didn't know the answer!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,174 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Isambard wrote: »
    well then, isn't that the new link road I asked about in my original post?


    There's the village of Clonroche and a considerable amount of bandit country along the N30 between the end of the New Ross bypass and the start of the Enniscorthy bypass



    https://goo.gl/maps/mHeHBVu2mC12


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,463 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    The N30 is being bypassed via link roads to the existing N30 from the new N25 mainline and the new M11 mainline at New Ross and Enniscorthy respectively.

    The remainder of the N30 between New Ross and Enniscorthy has been upgraded for several km on the Enniscorthy back in 2006, and the remainder of the unupgraded N30 (including a bypass of Clonroche) is suspended (13.5km - N30 Moneytucker to New Ross).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,795 ✭✭✭Isambard


    marno21 wrote: »
    The N30 is being bypassed via link roads to the existing N30 from the new N25 mainline and the new M11 mainline at New Ross and Enniscorthy respectively.

    The remainder of the N30 between New Ross and Enniscorthy has been upgraded for several km on the Enniscorthy back in 2006, and the remainder of the unupgraded N30 (including a bypass of Clonroche) is suspended (13.5km - N30 Moneytucker to New Ross).

    Thank you, explains perfectly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,723 ✭✭✭serfboard


    Isambard wrote: »
    that's what i thought. Not being local I can't see the overall scheme of things in my head, it looks to the outsider as If New Ross is getting bypassed on the one hand and a new route into it on the other.
    OpenStreetMap has maps of both the New Ross and Enniscorthy bypass schemes if you zoom in close enough.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,321 ✭✭✭m17


    The barrow crossing 02/10/18 pic form fb page
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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,321 ✭✭✭m17


    The RFK bridge 15/10/18


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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,463 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21




  • Registered Users Posts: 4,321 ✭✭✭m17


    The RFK bridge
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  • Registered Users Posts: 91 ✭✭rekdtangle


    I haven't worked there since earlier in the summer but the last schedule I had was to have all blacktop complete by end of september. Has that been achieved? I'd imagine it should have.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    marno21 wrote: »

    Good pics of the barrow bridge works


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,321 ✭✭✭m17


    Top of the barrow crossing
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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,321 ✭✭✭m17


    The barrow crossing 21/10/18 pic form fb page
    IMAG303_zpsc883fuhi.jpg


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,645 ✭✭✭prunudo


    m17 wrote: »
    The barrow crossing 21/10/18 pic form fb page
    IMAG303_zpsc883fuhi.jpg

    How far out from the piers can the deck be built before it has to be supported by cables from the main tower?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,893 ✭✭✭allthedoyles


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,115 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


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    autobahn-original-lp-cover.jpg?quality=80


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,174 ✭✭✭✭josip


    I only had the low res phone with me on Saturday which was a pity because the light was lovely.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,937 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Why did they never create proper renders for this bridge?

    I have never seen one.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,289 ✭✭✭Azatadine


    Is the bridge opening delayed until Q4 next year now? I thought it was to be opened in June but heard it was delayed....could be rubbish talk I suppose...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭Carawaystick


    jvan wrote: »
    How far out from the piers can the deck be built before it has to be supported by cables from the main tower?

    The photos show a serious cantilever alright


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,645 ✭✭✭prunudo


    The photos show a serious cantilever alright

    That was my thoughts too, the latest photos even more so. I'm not an engineer but didn't realise it could support itself so far out.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 19,873 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    jvan wrote: »
    That was my thoughts too, the latest photos even more so. I'm not an engineer but didn't realise it could support itself so far out.

    They appear to be progressing equally in each direction, and there is a second pillar to give support, so it remains more or less in balance. There is little extra load, such as a few trucks, to knock it off balance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭Carawaystick


    I know it's balanced, but its still looks like a lot of cantilevering.

    It does look cool all the same


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,893 ✭✭✭allthedoyles


    44922013415_9389ddc462_b.jpg
    Just pulled this from FB - Its a close up of one of the towers that will hold the cables on the deck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,893 ✭✭✭allthedoyles


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,645 ✭✭✭prunudo


    ^^^ Thats a cracking photo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Amazing pics & vids thanks for sharing.

    Anyone know the engineering reason why the bridge seems so high over the water? Is it something to do with the topography either side of the river or another reason?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,819 ✭✭✭Silent Running


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Amazing pics & vids thanks for sharing.

    Anyone know the engineering reason why the bridge seems so high over the water? Is it something to do with the topography either side of the river or another reason?

    I'd imagine it's something to do with it being a navigable river.


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