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Summer 2010 - WWE releases Bryan Danielson (Zombie bump)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,156 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    Dean820 wrote: »
    I noticed that too. Did someone say something to him to make him stop?

    One of the other rookies probably told him to stop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,101 ✭✭✭MitchKoobski


    Anyway if true it strikes me as being very harsh. No warning or punishment just fired immediately? I don't get it. I can recall an angle involving Muhammad Hassan and HBK a few years back where he was hung up on the rope even more violently before Hogan came down and made the save. I know it wasn't PG in those days but even so, it's not like what Danielson did was an unprecedented level of violence.
    Lest we forget a few years back when Big Bossman was hung from the cell by his neck.

    Although in fairness you could argue that kids wouldn't really have their own cell and Ministry of Darkness to try it at home. :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,199 ✭✭✭G-Money


    Dean820 wrote: »
    Source: www.wwe.com

    The WWE website reports that Daniel Bryan has been released from his contract. "We wish Daniel Bryan the best in all future endeavors," reads the post, which you can read at WWE.com.

    May be a work given the storyline.

    Step 1 in WWE f*****g up the best storyline/angle they've had in years.

    That's if it's real though :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,013 ✭✭✭✭jaykhunter


    Has there really not been any wrestler choking another since Benoit?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,199 ✭✭✭G-Money


    Remember Muhammed Hassan a few years ago. It was around the time of those kidnapping and be-headings of foreigners in Iraq and places like that. He used to do this gesture of slitting someone's throat/cutting their head off just before he slapped on the camel clutch (I think that's what it's name was).

    WWE has gone over the top on this I think. The Benoit thing never even entered my mind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,156 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    jaykhunter wrote: »
    Has there really not been any wrestler choking another since Benoit?
    I think Jericho tried to strangle JBL with a rope a few years ago, it could have been at the Rumble 2008?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,391 ✭✭✭D2D


    It's 50/50 in the poll atm.

    I knew they'd end up wrecking the NXT invasion angle at some point but this is crazy (if it's true)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,210 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Although in fairness you could argue that kids wouldn't really have their own cell and Ministry of Darkness to try it at home. :pac:

    Damn recession.... :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,943 ✭✭✭Machismo Fan


    It's 50/50 in the poll atm.

    I knew they'd end up wrecking the NXT invasion angle at some point but this is crazy (if it's true)

    Without Danielson the NXT angle won't survive, their in-ring limitations will be revealed too quickly.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,391 ✭✭✭D2D


    Without Danielson the NXT angle won't survive, their in-ring limitations will be revealed too quickly.

    Abso-f**kin-lutly

    Guys like Otunga, Skip etc... can't work in the ring (Otunga esp)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,013 ✭✭✭✭jaykhunter


    sure it's a different poll answer now than it was when the news first broke. The more information is out, the more likely it is that it's real.

    It's looking like WWE are actually knee-jerking retards. Surely an injury angle on RAW (say the Pros barricading the NXT crowd in, ganging up on and injuring Danielson) and firing/suspending Danielson Tuesday morning would be much more beneficial for all. Why not a fine or a caution?

    Surely they could've asked Mattel to let him stay on for one more show to write him out of the script instead of immediately ruining their best angle in many years.

    You could argue that Danielson's technically the leader of the NXT because he was fired and so doesn't kayfabe have a job. Barrett does. Why would Barrett help the NXT guys out? Anyway, it's a moot point, it seems WWE are retards.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    Unless this is a huge swerve I think WWE have dropped the ball on this NXT invasion angle already. One of the main figures released cuts the legs off IMO. I hope they realise what a stupid call they've made.

    I think Danielson will be as popular as ever on the indies though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,242 ✭✭✭chordtype


    So they have gone from being praised by the internet to being hated by them again in less than a week. Well done WWE. Not that they give a poo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,866 ✭✭✭Pentecost


    Not sure why he couldn't have been suspended if they were really that upset. It's very surprising if they fired him straight off even from a contract law point of view. Maybe they paid him a load of cash with an assurance they'll take him back at some stage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,391 ✭✭✭D2D


    - Dave Meltzer is reporting that Bryan Danielson (Daniel Bryan) is seeking independent bookings. He apparently was given the impression that the sides could do business again somewhere down the road.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,866 ✭✭✭Pentecost


    Mad that one act meant he had to go. By the sounds of things they don't want him going to the competition. Hopefully he'll be back in a few months.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 178 ✭✭ScumdogV2


    Michael Cole's Twitter is saying that he's taken full responsibility for Daniel Bryan's sacking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,391 ✭✭✭D2D


    ScumdogV2 wrote: »
    Michael Cole's Twitter is saying that he's taken full responsibility for Daniel Bryan's sacking.

    He has a twitter?? Thought he hated the internet

    EDIT: found it - http://twitter.com/WWEMichaelCole

    More than likely a work if that's the case


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 15,237 Mod ✭✭✭✭FutureGuy


    Wow. I gave up on WWE ever since they changed to PG garbage mode. The NXT angle got me seriously interested again. Finally something a little more edgy...and now this.

    This is going one of two ways.

    1) This is legit, in which case the WWE have shot themselves in the foot big time.

    2) It's a work to get Danielson out of the NXT angle. It seems to be going the way of Barrett and cronies vs Cena and Danielson is simply too good to be one of the cronies in all this.

    If this is indeed a reaction to a complaint by Mattel, it'd be highly ironic. The kids watch WWE PG, then play Smackdown vs Raw and hammer each other with chairs, barbed wire etc while spilling gallons of blood.

    If I was Dixie Carter, I'd snap him up in a heartbeat. Danielson has provenm to be a complete package. There never was any doubt regarding his wrestling ability, and his mic work has been super.

    Michal Cole accepting full responsibility makes me think this is a giant work, and if it is, WWE may have drawn me back in, if its just for this story alone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,391 ✭✭✭D2D


    Dave Meltzer has said if it's a work, they're working their office which would be crazy as lying to their staff would cause morale to go down the toilet. It could all be a work of course.

    Said the difference between this and any other violent thing they've done at PG was a sponsor complained about this one and none of the others, and who ever it was who complained is important enough to them that they had to do something to appease them. Said it wasn't Mattel though


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 178 ✭✭ScumdogV2


    To quote Meltzer:


    "I don't want to talk to much about, and Bryan knows what it is.

    There is a situation going on with somebody who is a hell of a lot bigger talent in that company than Bryan Danielson.

    It's so much more insane than this that it would boggle your mind, and I'll just leave it at that."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,391 ✭✭✭D2D


    ScumdogV2 wrote: »
    To quote Meltzer:


    "I don't want to talk to much about, and Bryan knows what it is.

    There is a situation going on with somebody who is a hell of a lot bigger talent in that company than Bryan Danielson.

    It's so much more insane than this that it would boggle your mind, and I'll just leave it at that."

    Ah FFS, their playing the internet wrestling community:mad::mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,621 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    ScumdogV2 wrote: »
    To quote Meltzer:


    "I don't want to talk to much about, and Bryan knows what it is.

    There is a situation going on with somebody who is a hell of a lot bigger talent in that company than Bryan Danielson.

    It's so much more insane than this that it would boggle your mind, and I'll just leave it at that."

    what does that mean ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,242 ✭✭✭chordtype


    What a bloody tease that Meltzer is.


    I'm now assuming that the firing is legit. Anyone else think that Danielson will NOT be going to TNA? Surely WWE will have him back in a few months when the idiot sponsor chills the f out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 178 ✭✭ScumdogV2


    I'm curious myself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,391 ✭✭✭D2D


    chordtype wrote: »
    What a bloody tease that Meltzer is.


    I'm now assuming that the firing is legit. Anyone else think that Danielson will NOT be going to TNA? Surely WWE will have him back in a few months when the idiot sponsor chills the f out.

    Doesn't the 90-day no compete clause come in?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,391 ✭✭✭D2D


    Source
    We have just received information that Paul Levesque (Triple H) may have been the one responsible for Bryan Danielson (Daniel Bryan) being released from WWE. We do not know exactly the reasons behind this course of action but will update you later today once we find out more.

    We can now confirm that our earlier info on Triple H being responsible for the firing of Bryan Danielson is indeed correct. Our source tells us that while watching Justin Roberts being choked by his own tie Triple H’s children became frightened and burst into tears.

    Despite the incident being planned as part of the NXT rookie invasion, the sight of his children’s tears drove Triple H to action. The next day, Triple H confronted Danielson during the Smackdown! tapings and the two had to be torn away from each other. Triple H put a stop to another invasion that was planned for SD for fear of further scaring his kids and them having sleepless nights which would “ruin his weekend” in the words of our source. Triple H then told our source that he wanted Danielson out of the company as soon as possible and convinced Vince to finally terminate his contract.

    Upon being told of his release Danielson stormed out of the building in a rage and spat on Eve Torres who had the misfortune of being near Danielson when he began to rage. The general locker room feeling is that Bryan’s firing was brought about solely from Triple H. Vince was reportedly disappointed that he had to release Bryan due to his involvement with such a large angle and this release has scuppered a lot of Creative’s plans.

    Believe or not

    It's not true guys, my bad for putting this up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,621 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    i hate that man with a ****ing passion, to much power he has

    ****ing proper ****


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,242 ✭✭✭chordtype


    We can now confirm that our earlier info on Triple H being responsible for the firing of Bryan Danielson is indeed correct. Our source tells us that while watching Justin Roberts being choked by his own tie Triple H’s children became frightened and burst into tears.

    Despite the incident being planned as part of the NXT rookie invasion, the sight of his children’s tears drove Triple H to action. The next day, Triple H confronted Danielson during the Smackdown! tapings and the two had to be torn away from each other. Triple H put a stop to another invasion that was planned for SD for fear of further scaring his kids and them having sleepless nights which would “ruin his weekend” in the words of our source. Triple H then told our source that he wanted Danielson out of the company as soon as possible and convinced Vince to finally terminate his contract.

    Upon being told of his release Danielson stormed out of the building in a rage and spat on Eve Torres who had the misfortune of being near Danielson when he began to rage. The general locker room feeling is that Bryan’s firing was brought about solely from Triple H. Vince was reportedly disappointed that he had to release Bryan due to his involvement with such a large angle and this release has scuppered a lot of Creative’s plans.

    Let be the first to call BULL**** on this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,391 ✭✭✭D2D


    chordtype wrote: »
    Let be the first to call BULL**** on this.

    I'm not convinced but with the way Meltzer was saying that "it'll boggle the mind", I wouldn't be surprised if it was true.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,242 ✭✭✭chordtype


    chordtype wrote: »
    Let be the first to call BULL**** on this.

    Trip's kids are around 5 and 3 I think. They would not be watching WWE Raw on Monday night at 11 pm on a Monday night.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,621 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    dammit my rant was for nothing now

    still hate the **** thou


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,391 ✭✭✭D2D


    chordtype wrote: »
    Trip's kids are around 5 and 3 I think. They would not be watching WWE Raw on Monday night at 11 pm on a Monday night.

    Maybe they watched it recorded??

    Meh, I don't care about Triple H tbh


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 178 ✭✭ScumdogV2


    Work or not, this is the most I've cared about a storyline in five years.

    Jesus, if this is true then it's shocking. Seems Vince don't have the 'grape fruits' to stand up to Triple H.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,866 ✭✭✭Pentecost


    ScumdogV2 wrote: »
    Michael Cole's Twitter is saying that he's taken full responsibility for Daniel Bryan's sacking.

    Hmm that's very odd if it's not a work, I presume he means that in a "I've had him fired" way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,210 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Source


    Believe or not

    ..........


    .................



    AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! :D:D:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    Does HHH let his kids watch when he's gonna get a "crimson mask"? :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,866 ✭✭✭Pentecost


    Just had a gawk at Cole's Twitter again, he's been tweeting loads about getting Danielson fired for attacking people last Monday. Making a point of replying to people in his heel persona. Could still be a big work, can't see why else he'd be scoring points off Danielson now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,391 ✭✭✭D2D


    Right, so far we know

    - Danielson's been "fired" (Kayfabe or not), appartantly for choking Justin Roberts with his tie (which the camera zoomed in on Raw)
    - Changes his twitter page name and goes on about the winds of change (which Wade Barrett referred to in a promo on NXT)
    - Internet goes apes**t about it.
    - Reports that Someone high in the company or a sponser got him "fired"
    - Michael Cole on twitter claims it was him
    - Reports mention Triple H being involved as well

    What a busy day in wrestling:pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,866 ✭✭✭Pentecost


    Oh I forgot to mention that Cole has also mentioned on his Twitter about "the winds of change" in WWE.
    WWEMichaelCole Gotta go head off now....the winds of change are calling me! See you all later.
    16 minutes ago


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,391 ✭✭✭D2D


    Source


    Believe or not

    Screw that, just realised that he's in New Orleans filming a movie.

    My bad


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 338 ✭✭MightyMighty737


    Reckon it's a work myself tbh.

    Dunno that much about Danielson at all, but isn't he the darling boy of internet fans? I know Vince generally couldn't give a damn what net fans thing but it comes hand in hand with Danielson. And putting it out there that Tripple H is to blame is gonna wind them up even more.
    Also do you think he'd spit in the face of Eve? Not a chance. I know he spitted at Cena on Raw and that's the reason this rumour was put out as well.

    Very very interesting and involving storyline by the WWE.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,391 ✭✭✭D2D


    WWE Corporate site still not updated (all releases are put up there in under 12 hours of being released) so I'm guessing it's a work


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 178 ✭✭ScumdogV2


    These days, since every single minute of WWE TV is laid out so meticiously, what would happen to the writer who suggested the tie strangling spot?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,630 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    If it is all a work it's the best one in a long time.They have even got the 'dirtsheets' as they call 'em.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,045 ✭✭✭Vince135792003


    If it is all a work it's the best one in a long time..

    If its a work, it's just wasting everybody's time theirs and a very small portion of their audience.

    They have an intriguing angle. Tricking a tiny percentage of their audience adds nothing to it as well as the fact that it would not make sense in terms of the story.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,391 ✭✭✭D2D


    Pretty good article imo (no, it's not any rumours over who got him fired)
    According to WWE.com, the WWE has come to terms to release Daniel Bryan aka Bryan Danielson. They used both of his names in the post, which is why many feel the release is real.

    An idea was that he would be let go and come back as his real name, Bryan Danielson, which makes sense. Then, Danielson changed his name on twitter from Daniel Bryan to Bryan Danielson, and very quickly too. Within minutes after the release, his twitter changed while still being under the WWE banner. Which makes me think, huh?

    Especially when he said, "the winds of change are stirring" on his account.

    The reason he was released is because of the choke he did on ring announcer Justin Roberts. He did it with his own tie and a camera was right on top of it. I guess Kevin Dunn thought it was pretty entertaining. But, it was described as "too violent".

    The reason he was let go for the choke was because the WWE hasn't allowed chokes like that ever since the Benoit tragedy. Obviously Danielson could have been unaware of this, but it makes little sense that a guy like Danielson would go rogue and completely do whatever he wanted, especially when that is so out of character of him.

    Also, why did Dunn make sure a camera cut to the choke if it was indeed illegal? And the biggest one of them all is, if the choke was illegal, then why was it planned to be done? Like I said, Danielson is not the type of guy to do whatever he wanted to do on TV.

    He only does what he's told.

    Apparently there was a tattletale back stage who said that it was banned years ago and that it would scare little kids in the audience or think that it was okay to do the choke on other kids.

    First off, who cares? This angle was one of the best in years, and people complain about a choke? Heck, a B/R writer complained about the spitting, and people complained about the gang style beat down, which may also send a bad message to kids. No one complained about the choke other than some loser in the company.

    You gave fans something amazing, and Danielson could be apart of one of the best angles in some time, but you let him go over a simple choke? Of which you planned to happen all along?

    Danielson knows he's no John Cena or Randy Orton, he can't go out and do whatever and get away with it. So it seems obvious to this writer, Danielson only did as told and the only one to blame for the choke, is the WWE itself.

    Number one for planning it, number two for actually making sure the choke was shown on camera.

    I can now confirm to you that Danielson has in fact been released from World Wrestling Entertainment. It's about as legit as Matt Hardy's firing half a decade ago.

    As we saw with the Hardy firing, he was really let go from the WWE, they made it as real as possible. But, he came right back.

    The idea is to bring him back in when the whole choke things blows over, which, wasn't a biggie to begin with.

    People backstage said that they wished the WWE locker room was full of Danielson's. Just goes to show you how good of a guy he is, how well received he is by his peers, and how much management seems to like him.

    He has some pull with William Regal there, and since he was trained by HBK, I'm sure Michaels is wondering why the heck the guy was fired too. Then you have a good friend of his in CM Punk there too, probably wondering what happened to let him go.

    Danielson did nothing wrong if you ask me.

    If he was released for going over PG, then fire all of the NXT season 1 roster, because they all did the same thing. Heck, Heath Slater even got a ring rope and choked John Cena in the middle of the ring, where is his walking papers?

    They did a gang style beat down on Cena, something not PG at all, yet that's ok? Oh, but see that was planned Joe, it was supposed to be like that. Bull crap! The whole thing was planned and Danielson was a victim of doing what the WWE told him.

    To me, this seems like nothing more than a work and they had to figure out a way to fire him for it. He'll be back, most likely as Bryan Danielson and not Daniel Bryan.

    The thing people need to realize is that kayfabe wise, Danielson never had a WWE contract, so for them to come on the site and say he's let go means he was, in fact, let go.

    He will be back, keep this in mind people. IWC, calm down here, our boy Danielson will be on WWE TV again.

    Now, what I feel the WWE should do is release all of the NXT guys, then have them say, this isn't going to stop them, eventually we'll see them all come back.

    Or another idea is to have the NXT guys talk of the WWE letting Danielson go, then eventually have him come back to the group.

    There has to be a way of taking Danielson out of the group, because it makes little sense for them to keep talking about the NXT rookies every time they show the attack, then refer to them as the 8 rookies, and we only see 7 on TV. So, the WWE has to use this in some way.

    But, I guess we'll see right.

    I don't know about you, but I'll be watching RAW very closely this week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,866 ✭✭✭Pentecost


    The one thing they can't do, legally, is mislead stockholders, which if it's a work would explain the lack of news on the corporate site. It could be their masterplan to draw in the net community. They may have decided that to pull it off only a certain few can know it's not real. I just don't think Cole would be making such hay out of it were it completely legit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,045 ✭✭✭Vince135792003


    Pentecost wrote: »
    The one thing they can't do, legally, is mislead stockholders, which if it's a work would explain the lack of news on the corporate site. It could be their masterplan to draw in the net community. They may have decided that to pull it off only a certain few can know it's not real. I just don't think Cole would be making such hay out of it were it completely legit.

    On Tuesday morning, the angle alone had the net community very engaged.

    If it is a work, they should be spending more time fixing the 2 hours 45 minutes of last weeks show rather than tricking hardcore fans who are very into the angle as it is anyway and even if they weren't will still watch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,630 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    If its a work, it's just wasting everybody's time theirs and a very small portion of their audience.

    They have an intriguing angle. Tricking a tiny percentage of their audience adds nothing to it as well as the fact that it would not make sense in terms of the story.

    I see this as part of the angle though. To me it's like they are reaching out to a part of their audience that they have long taken for granted, and at times treated with contempt.

    I don't see this as WWE wasting the time of hardcore fans but actually involving them in the storyline.


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