2015 Irish CX Champs - all you need to know

midonogh · 01-01-2015 8:46pm

lennymc wrote: »

mud, grass climbs, tarmac climbs, boards, mud, mud.

You forgot the off-camber switch back descents Lenny

midonogh · 01-01-2015 8:55pm

Lenny's description is not too far wrong.
The course is on the side of a river valley so there will be some steep tarmac ascents and some steep run ups. Add in some single track, crossing ditches, a very tricky off camber switch back descent and lots of mud and you start to get the picture.

Its a great technical course. If I was training for it I would be concentrating on off camber descents and running up the steepest hill I could find!

Tenzor07 · 01-01-2015 8:56pm

Peterx wrote: »

percentage grass?

That has to be the best one yet!

Beasty · 01-01-2015 8:59pm

If anyone is aware of any grass on the circuit pelase let us know and we'll see if we can get it removed ahead of the 11th:pac:

Tenzor07 · 01-01-2015 9:00pm

Beasty wrote: »

If anyone is aware of any grass on the circuit pelase let us know and we'll see if we can get it removed ahead of the 11th:pac:

Ah don't change the grass percentage level!

Eamonnator · 01-01-2015 9:12pm

midonogh wrote: »

Lenny's description is not too far wrong.
The course is on the side of a river valley so there will be some steep tarmac ascents and some steep run ups. Add in some single track, crossing ditches, a very tricky off camber switch back descent and lots of mud and you start to get the picture.

Its a great technical course. If I was training for it I would be concentrating on off camber descents and running up the steepest hill I could find!

I don't know, why I'm trying so hard, to enter for this race.
Oh wait, I think, I answered this question in my previous post, in this thread.

Lusk_Doyle · 01-01-2015 11:24pm

Eamonnator wrote: »

I don't know, why I'm trying so hard, to enter for this race.
Oh wait, I think, I answered this question in my previous post, in this thread.

You can be the alig(eamonn)ator in the ditch after you fall off during the first warm up lap. Stay there and tackle the real racers when they come through.

Eamonnator · 01-01-2015 11:33pm

The falling off part will be no problem. I'm not so sure about the rest of it.

Peterx · 02-01-2015 5:15pm

Is the course a variation of the one in the video from 2 years ago?

Good fun course though, looking forward to it, despite the uncertainly on the grass

Beasty · 02-01-2015 6:40pm

Don't worry about the grass. Was only joking before. There is some....

25sean · 02-01-2015 6:49pm

Does anyone know the rules on changing bikes.. can it be done right up to and on the last lap?

Someone was shouting at me last year in Lady Dixon saying no more bike changes with 2 laps to go....

tenks

RobFowl · 02-01-2015 7:20pm

25sean wrote: »

Does anyone know the rules on changing bikes.. can it be done right up to and on the last lap?

Someone was shouting at me last year in Lady Dixon saying no more bike changes with 2 laps to go....

tenks

Can change on any and every lap if you want.

galway rower · 02-01-2015 7:36pm

You can change bikes on any lap and twice a lap if your pit crew are quick enough. You can only change bikes in pit lane and if you enter pit lane even by mistake you must change bikes

RobFowl · 02-01-2015 10:25pm

galway rower wrote: »

You can change bikes on any lap and twice a lap if your pit crew are quick enough. You can only change bikes in pit lane and if you enter pit lane even by mistake you must change bikes

You can only change bikes at the pits and can't go backwards to it. Can't see how you could do it twice.
Also some just have spare wheels in the pits so bike change isn't obligatory

Beasty · 02-01-2015 10:35pm

RobFowl wrote: »

You can only change bikes at the pits and can't go backwards to it. Can't see how you could do it twice.
Also some just have spare wheels in the pits so bike change isn't obligatory

So if you get a puncture on the course do you have to make your way to the pits before you can do a wheel change, or can you do it anywhere? Can anyone along the circuit help with any running repairs?

25sean · 02-01-2015 10:39pm

thats cleared up... usually a mud fest, thanks

RobFowl · 02-01-2015 10:42pm

Beasty wrote: »

So if you get a puncture on the course do you have to make your way to the pits before you can do a wheel change, or can you do it anywhere? Can anyone along the circuit help with any running repairs?

You have to get back to the pits to do anything. You can have a mechanic help you there though.
Happened to me when punctured just after the pits. Had to ride nearly a full lap on a flat.
Often see others having to run around the course when they roll a tub or something.

galway rower · 03-01-2015 12:32am

RobFowl wrote: »

You can only change bikes at the pits and can't go backwards to it. Can't see how you could do it twice.
Also some just have spare wheels in the pits so bike change isn't obligatory

There will be a double pit at the champs so you will pass them every half a lap

Raam · 03-01-2015 9:17am

You can also go backwards to the pits if you are beside it and not past the end of it. Vos it did last year I think.

The tax man · 03-01-2015 9:57am

I received an e-mail yesterday about having the option of my entry counting towards the team prize. My question is, can only a certain amount of riders per club be counted towards this or is it a case of the more team entries a club has , the better their odds?

Beasty · 03-01-2015 10:30am

Raam wrote: »

You can also go backwards to the pits if you are beside it and not past the end of it. Vos it did last year I think.

Was she in the support race?

:pac:

Beasty · 03-01-2015 10:51am

Just a reminder - registration closes tomorrow so if you're interested in any of the championship events or just want to try out the support race follow the link in the OP

mtbireland · 05-01-2015 3:57pm

The tax man wrote: »

I received an e-mail yesterday about having the option of my entry counting towards the team prize. My question is, can only a certain amount of riders per club be counted towards this or is it a case of the more team entries a club has , the better their odds?

It's the top three from your team/club that are counted.

lennymc · 06-01-2015 12:01am

so apparently due to a mix up in my licence application (doh), I will be racing in the senior race. I will approach this race with a positive Chuck Norris 'can do' attitude

but no doubt, I will end the race like this guy, amid sobs of sorrow and pure suffering.

Cant wait!!

Beasty · 06-01-2015 12:06am

Currently forecast to be dry (and windy). Hopefully we can cultivate a bit more mud between now and Sunday....

lennymc · 06-01-2015 12:10am

rain on wed, thur and saturday so i doubt the ground will dry out.

DKO · 06-01-2015 9:39am

On the pits question, I understand that you can enter the pits and not take a bike or a wheel or anything, but you have to dismount and remount in the pits as you pass through? From the pro races... I think up, until last year you could just ride though the pits, but in some race guys used this to avoid mud and get a quicker line into a corner following the pits, so the rule was changed to make them jump off and back on in the pits to even things up if this circumstance ever happened again.

nak · 06-01-2015 11:35am

DKO wrote: »

On the pits question, I understand that you can enter the pits and not take a bike or a wheel or anything, but you have to dismount and remount in the pits as you pass through? From the pro races... I think up, until last year you could just ride though the pits, but in some race guys used this to avoid mud and get a quicker line into a corner following the pits, so the rule was changed to make them jump off and back on in the pits to even things up if this circumstance ever happened again.

Not much point using it as a shortcut as it will no doubt be chaos like previous years.

Raam · 06-01-2015 11:37am

DKO wrote: »

On the pits question, I understand that you can enter the pits and not take a bike or a wheel or anything, but you have to dismount and remount in the pits as you pass through? From the pro races... I think up, until last year you could just ride though the pits, but in some race guys used this to avoid mud and get a quicker line into a corner following the pits, so the rule was changed to make them jump off and back on in the pits to even things up if this circumstance ever happened again.

I think it was changed so that you have to take a bike.

Eamonnator · 06-01-2015 11:48am

Raam wrote: »

I think it was changed so that you have to take a bike.

If this is the case, what happens, if you have spare wheels in the pit, and puncture? Does this mean, you can't go to a pits for a wheel change?.

Raam · 06-01-2015 11:49am

Eamonnator wrote: »

If this is the case, what happens, if you have spare wheels in the pit, and puncture? Does this mean, you can't go to a pits for a wheel change?.

I'm sure you can do that.

Raam · 06-01-2015 11:54am

Equipment changes
5.1.038 A rider may only take the pit lane to change his bicycle, wheel(s) or for other
mechanical assistance.

http://www.uci.ch/mm/Document/News/Rulesandregulation/16/61/43/5CRO-E-16062014_English.pdf

Tenzor07 · 06-01-2015 12:22pm

You can cycle through the pits though if the commissar or an eagle eyed race marshal takes note of it then you may get a warning...

Beasty · 06-01-2015 12:30pm

Don't worry - there will be plenty of eagle-eyed marshals about ....

Seriously though - why bother cheating your way through - do you think it may get you into the medals?

lennymc · 06-01-2015 12:47pm

Beasty wrote: »

Seriously though - why bother cheating your way through - do you think it may get you into the medals?

Have you ever ridden a cx race? Anything to lessen the suffering.... :P

Beasty · 06-01-2015 12:59pm

lennymc wrote: »

Have you ever ridden a cx race? Anything to lessen the suffering.... :P

I haven't done the former to achieve the latter ....

Peterx · 06-01-2015 1:59pm

I love the ould build-up chat.

Where's the list of entrants?
I wanna see who I will be racing against (and who might be lapping me)

Where's my map of the course with lovingly detailed descriptions of every twist, turn, run-up and grass nitrogen percentage?

I want it all, and I want it soonish please..

Who from the senior race wants to altruistically share their battery powered power washer with me? I will return it full of water and with a bottle of Belgian Beer on top.

Even if I don't need too I think I am going to change bikes and get a poor suffering friend to clean the other bike for me, sure isn't that what the Nationals (capital N) is all about. I'll have to borrow a spare bike and a washer and a friend for all this madness of course

Mr. Grieves · 06-01-2015 2:16pm

Peterx wrote: »

Who from the senior race wants to altruistically share their battery powered power washer with me? I will return it full of water and with a bottle of Belgian Beer on top.

Even if I don't need too I think I am going to change bikes and get a poor suffering friend to clean the other bike for me, sure isn't that what the Nationals (capital N) is all about. I'll have to borrow a spare bike and a washer and a friend for all this madness of course

Apparently in the Nationals in the states there's neutral service in the pits. Can we have that?

Beasty · 06-01-2015 2:21pm

Mr. Grieves wrote: »

Apparently in the Nationals in the states there's neutral service in the pits. Can we have that?

You want me to bring a power hose along to the pits? I'm up for that - should be great fun .....:D

Peterx · 06-01-2015 2:33pm

Beasty wrote: »

You want me to bring a power hose along to the pits? I'm up for that - should be great fun .....:D

YES please..

lennymc · 06-01-2015 3:22pm

I bagsie Lantern rouge.

Beasty · 06-01-2015 3:24pm

lennymc wrote: »

I bagsie Lantern rouge.

I'll be getting the water cannon out to celebrate that lenny ...

lennymc · 06-01-2015 3:27pm

Beasty wrote: »

I'll be getting the water cannon out to celebrate that lenny ...

You're going to clean my bike? How thoughtful.

Who wants to be in my pit crew?

Beasty · 06-01-2015 3:29pm

lennymc wrote: »

You're going to clean my bike?

Only if you're on it - a clean bike is secondary ....

Lusk_Doyle · 06-01-2015 7:10pm

lennymc wrote: »

You're going to clean my bike? How thoughtful.

Who wants to be in my pit crew?

I will. I ain't helping you though. I just want the t shirt.

Eamonnator · 06-01-2015 7:35pm

lennymc wrote: »

You're going to clean my bike? How thoughtful.

Who wants to be in my pit crew?

I'll be in yours, if you'll be in mine.

Peterx · 07-01-2015 1:38pm

http://www.thebikecomesfirst.com/cyclocross-champs-2015-course-description/

Now that's what I call a course description. Chapeau.

Alek · 07-01-2015 2:14pm

Funny, but somehow I feel my stomach is tightening into a knot as I'm reading this.

(I don't have studs....)

nak · 07-01-2015 2:15pm

Alek wrote: »

Funny, but scary 8-o

(I don't have studs....)

I got football studs from Elverys last year, they did the trick.

Alek · 07-01-2015 2:17pm

I mean my shoes don't have stud sockets...

2015 Irish CX Champs - all you need to know

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