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Yeah, I've seen where it splits off to the primary school! This was my first run of it since the start of December, but I'll be doing it both ways once I get a little fitter :eek:
. That walkway is a great amenity for the area, great to see it being used in the early evenings too. I did most of my runs for Clon last year out here, and it really helped with the hilly aspects of the course.
You're really motoring through your training, I foresee impressive results!
Those hills were great prep for Clon! walkway is great alright. I'm only down once a month running around there but ya never know we might cross paths at some point!
So far so good with the training. Have Bohermeen now in a couple of weeks so that will be a good measurement for where I am! alot is riding on the result of that so will wait and see!
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Those hills were great prep for Clon! walkway is great alright. I'm only down once a month running around there but ya never know we might cross paths at some point!
Yup. I'm going to try do some of my long runs down there from here on in.I'll be popping in on ya with the P&D anyway to see how your getting on. Good luck with it!
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outforarun wrote: »Great to have someone else following the same plan at the same time. I'm finding it testing but the legs are holding up. Good variety in the plan and the rest and recovery days seem to arrive just at the right moment.
Yup, very handy! I'm finding it grand at the moment, but I suspect my target might be a little soft. I may re-evaluate things after Ballycotton, but since it's my first marathon, I'm happy to get across the line. So I'll balance the two. It may also be that I'm taking it easy on my recovery and general runs: I find I have plenty left then for the faster sessions. Only week 3 though, we'll see how it goes!
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Yup, very handy! I'm finding it grand at the moment, but I suspect my target might be a little soft. I may re-evaluate things after Ballycotton, but since it's my first marathon, I'm happy to get across the line. So I'll balance the two. It may also be that I'm taking it easy on my recovery and general runs: I find I have plenty left then for the faster sessions. Only week 3 though, we'll see how it goes!
I think you're right to focus on getting across the line for your first. And following P&D should mean that if you get to the start line in one piece you'll also cross the line in a decent time and hopefully will have enjoyed the journey.
I'm also feeling that I have lots of energy for the faster stuff. Like you pointed out the first mesocycle is all about endurance so it makes sense. It is only week 3 afterall and it wouldn't be good to be lacking energy so soon. Still, last Tuesday's 10 miles felt strange, I've never run so far so slow! But it is still fast end of the prescribed PMP percentile for a GA run.0 -
Thurs 14/2/2013
Week 3, Session 3 P&D 13 km w/ 6.5 k LT
13.18 km in 1:11:12, LT: 7k in 33:34 (avg pace 4:48/km)
Nice one, a bit of bright weather, or at least a pocket of it, was enough to get out a little earlier. Jogged down to the marina again to do these. My quads are still a little tight after the inclines on Tuesday, but I was able for this. Overall it was 'comfortably tough'. Rest day tomorrow, next run is another recovery run on Saturday.
LT km splits were: 4:49; 4:48; 4:48; 4:49; 4:46; 4:48; 4:46.
Week (8) P&D -15 | Sessions | WTD | MTD | YTD
Feb 11th - 17th| 3 | 36.18 km | 121.49 km | 244.12 km0 -
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Sun 17/2/2013
Week 3, Session 5 P&D 23k LSR
23.01 km in 2:15:32 @ 5:53/km
This was a good long run, done on an empty stomach as usual. Felt heavy-legged for the last couple of km, but that's to be expected. This is officially my longest run ever, and almost a year to the day since my first tentative steps into the world of plodding. It's all uncharted territory from here.
Week (7) P&D -15 | Sessions | WTD | MTD | YTD
Feb 11th - 17th| 5 | 65.64 km | 150.95 km | 273.58 km0 -
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Thurs 21/2/2013
Week 4, Session 3 P&D 16k general aerobic run
16.13 km in 1:28:05 @ 5:28/km (w/ 7.4 km at P10MP avg 4:44/km)
Failed at last km of pace.
Not feeling the love this week for the programme. Body feeling a little tired, and I need to shake my routes up. The plan was to try run 5 ye olde miles at race pace to test for Ballycotton in 9 days time, as promoted by Meno in the DCM 2012 ongoing thread a few days ago. My LT runs have been generally good in the run up to this week, with 7k not causing any problems. I didn't do myself any favours today. Got up at 7am to run it, but I didn't fancy the cold and wind, so I put it off until this evening. Kept kicking it down the clock, while munching merrily away all afternoon. Eventually copped myself on and hit the road. Pretty much ran all of this with a persistent stitch, but I kept bargaining with myself to go one more km and then I can quit. Then during the eighth km at pace, a blast of wind hit me, and broke the porcelain back of this racing camel. I just quit, decided to jog straight home. Thankfully, a little more bargaining sent me on a detour to bring me up to the 16km for the session.
I think I was due a bad session, and my head certainly wasn't in the right place for this one. Looking back, I was trying to back out of it all day. Still, it'll be of benefit for Ballycotton, no doubt, and we learn more when things go bad. Blah blah silver lining etc.
Week (8) P&D -14 | Sessions | WTD | MTD | YTD
Feb 18th - 24th| 3 | 37.19 km | 188.14 km | 310.77 km
I think all of this happened because I wore a hat. And accidentally ate three caramel eggs.0 -
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Sun 24/2/2013
Week 4, Session 5 P&D 24 k MLSR
24.38 km in 2:21:06 @ 5:47/km
Beautiful frosty cool and sparkly bright morning down in Cork, set off just before 9am and did a tour of the western suburbs. Felt really good for most of this, legs were a little tired at the end, but that's down to time on my feet: my body has very little experience of being out over 2 hours. Happy with the pace and form, and all on empty, although really feeling empty and hungry for the last couple of km. Still unsure about the whole gels thing though, I'm going to put off testing them for a while, and see how my body reacts.
Other good news, body glide totally works.
Week (8) P&D -14 | Sessions | WTD | MTD | YTD
Feb 18th - 24th| 5 | 68.11 km | 219.06 km | 341.69 km0 -
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Thur 28/2/2013
Week 5, Session 3 P&D 16k gen. aerobic
16.98 km in 1:42:06 @ 6:01/km
Out the marina, around Blackrock castle, Mahon Walkway, Rochestown, Douglas and home. Dull enough afternoon, but running by water is always nice.
Week (9) P&D wk 5 | Sessions | WTD | MTD | YTD
Feb 25th - Mar 3rd | 3 | 39.68 km | 258.74 km | 381.37 km
That completes my best ever month in terms of distance covered.
Month | 2012 Days | 2012 km| 2013 Days | 2013 km
Jan | 0/31 | 0 | 11/31 | 122.63
Feb | 8/29 | 54.89 | 19/28 | 258.74
Mar | 13/31 | 126.29 | 0 | 0
Apr | 10/30 | 112.53 | 0 | 0
May | 9/31 | 117.27 | 0 | 0
Jun | 0/30 | 0 | 0 | 0
Jul | 2/31 | 13.02 | 0 | 0
Aug | 2/31 | 12.02 | 0 | 0
Sep | 8/30 | 61.03 | 0 | 0
Oct | 16/31 | 117.04 | 0 | 0
Nov | 21/30 | 209.12 | 0 | 0
Dec | 7/31 | 81.67 | 0 | 0
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Sun 3/3/2013
Ballycotton 10 mile road race
3 km warming up/down;
16.18 km in 1:15:53 @ 4:41/km (official time)
This was my first ever Ballycotton 10, but not my last. I drove down neurotically early, I was in the car park twiddling my thumbs around 11, but luckily there were already loads of heads knocking about. It was a cool enough day, with a biting breeze, so an extra underlayer was needed. Did my stretches, my warm ups, and went over the plan sitting in the warmth of the car, listening to the magic that is Sunday radio (Joan Burton's love life and her opinions on 70s fashion :eek:). I silenced that, and tried get myself motivated for the race. Must have done something right, I got to the line feeling good. The plan was to take it mile by mile, at 4:45/km pace or quicker, and see how I was feeling at half way. There was some crowd all gathered together before the start line, I was about halfway through, just a row or two behind the sub 75 sign. This augered well. On the last couple of half marathons I did, I ran at some sort of universally-shunned pace, where I was running for 3-4 miles in the middle of the race pretty much on my own. Surely I wouldn't be left on my lonesome this time?
Race starts, and normally I find the first mile or two a little tricky, with my breathing. But this time I felt strong, my form was good, and I just tried make my way through the pack as quickly as possible. First two miles flew by, as I threw the odd cursory glance at the time. I was trying to run on feel. Every time I felt the beginnings of harder breathing (or lazy quick breathing), I focused on it for a few seconds and got some control back. Come the three mile marker, I was confident of making my 76:xx target.
Splits 1-5 (kms): 4:47; 4:43; 4:43; 4:49; 4:41
The next two miles were a bit of a blur, mainly because I was on autopilot. A water table came up unexpectedly, but I was well hydrated beforehand. If I was going to take water, I'd do it closer to the end. There was a group just ahead of me, with one woman clearly in charge of pacing, so I fell in with them for a while. All feeling easy enough, feeling the effort, but it was registering as manageable. Hit halfway feeling pretty good.
Splits: 6-8 (kms): 4:48; 4:44; 4:41
After halfway, things were looking good, but I didn't want to push too soon, so it was a case of trying to stay a little ahead of the pace, catching up with a runner here, and a runner there, slowly. The beauty of such a big field is that there were no end of useful targets.
Splits: 9-13 (kms): 4:44; 4:40; 4:43; 4:41; 4:36
Last two miles, and a slow hill just after the eight mile marker. Not as hard as I was expecting, and I was able to stay under target pace for it. One the first hill was over, it was time to push on with whatever was left in my legs. Turns out that wasn't much, but I managed to push home, reeling people in until about 300m to go, before holding on as best I could to the end. Big race clock said 77:08, my own clock said 75:53. Really, really pleased.
Splits: 14-16 (kms); 4:40; 4:32; 4:32 + some change.
38:30 5 mile time; 37:23 second split time according to the website.
I loved Ballycotton, thanks to all the people who were out at the markers, clapping and cheering, and who were in the town. Great event, and a benchmark which other race organisers would do well to measure themselves against (Clonakilty HM, I'm looking at you :P).
Week (9) P&D wk 5 | Sessions | WTD | MTD | YTD
Feb 25th - Mar 3rd | 4 | 58.86 km | 19.18 km | 400.55 km
Feel really good about my training now. P&D called for a recovery session yesterday, which I'll now do tomorrow to loosen the legs out. The 26km LSR with 16km PMP which was schedule for today, I'll do next Sunday instead of the scheduled step-down 19km. All easy/recovery running next week until then.0 -
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I'm already looking ahead at reasonably local races which can be slotted into P&D schedule with the minimum of fuss. Cork running blog's calendar is fierce useful! I'm scheduled to do the second 32km LSR in mid-April, and from the following week on, P&D recommends some tune-up races. I think I'd like to focus on hitting the sessions of that meso-thingy-tron before I do another race. The thinking being, once the second 32 km LSR is done, I can start thinking about the home stretch.
I think I can fit the Great Island 10 miler (21/5/2013) into week 12 without too much hassle. I would love to do Bandon HM (week 15: 11/5/2013) again, but it's on the weekend of the last 32km LSR, and I really don't want to be juggling that around. So I'm going to give that a skip. But there's a 10k the week after, the Emer Casey 10k down in Youghal (Week 16; 19/5/2013). I've never done a 10k before either, which is swaying me. If taper madness takes hold, I can always drop it.
So that's it: a race in mid April, and one again in mid May. Hopefully will keep me ticking over, and give me confidence.0 -
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Friday 8/3/2013
Week 6, Session 3 P&D 13k gen aerobic
13.15 km in 1:24:22 @ 6:25/km; av HR 136
This was a general aerobic run, which was originally scheduled for yesterday. I fitted it in this afternoon, after a late and heavy-ish lunch. It was an opportunity to give the Lidl HRM a run out also. The goal was to try run at a very low rate, regardless of how slowly it took, just to get some data for how hard I'm working while I run. The monitor worked out better than expected to be honest. I'm pretty tired all week, not getting a lot of sleep, and still feeling a little fatigued from racing. Nice easy miles for the rest of the week, next week's a monster.
Week (10) P&D wk 6 | Sessions | WTD | MTD | YTD
Mar 4th - 10th | 3 | 35.22 km | 54.4 km | 435.77 km
Edit: looking at the HR 136, and the P&D recommended HR % for the different workouts, it seems that my target recovery pace (6:20-6:30/km) is bang on. Now there's a purpose to continuing to run that slow! I'll wear the HM again for the next gen aerobic run and test my proposed pace against my heart rate next week. I don't plan on wearing the HR every session, but intermittently, to check my progress and to review paces.0 -
Sat 9/3/2013
Week 6, Session 4 P&D 6.5k recovery
7.25 km in 43:12 @ 5:57/km
Was being rather lazy, lying in bed prior to this. Thought about bring the HRM but I couldn't be bothered putting it on and getting it set up, and carrying it etc etc etc. Did a nice relaxed loop around the area, included a couple of short hills into the mix, and back for my porridge. Easy running on another dull drizzly day. Finally shaking off the cobwebs that have rested idly over my running motivation and mood this week. I'll get a boost from completing the full week, and hopefully be in good nick to tackle Tuesday's LT session.
Week (10) P&D wk 6 | Sessions | WTD | MTD | YTD
Mar 4th - 10th | 4 | 42.47 km | 61.65 km | 443.02 km
Now to get some work in before the egg chasing kicks off at 5pm.0 -
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How are you finding P&D Scriba? It seems like a mental amount of miles to me!
Physically, it's not so bad. I tend to switch off when I run, and racing recently gave me a boost. But mentally it's a bit more taxing, trying to figure out where I can fit one in each day. The mid-week runs are time consuming too. I'm hoping I can get out a bit more in the early mornings now that they're getting a bit brighter, along with the clocks changing too.
But for all that, it's the best thing I've ever done for my running (not that I'm running long - just a year). I feel tired yet strong at the same time, if that makes sense? And the running speeds are mixed up so that there's something a bit different about each run, except this week, which is a step back week. I 'enjoy' doing the LT runs because they're a good work out, but also a good gauge of the improvement in my fitness. The runs at marathon pace give me confidence that I might be able to hold it for the 26.2 when June hits. So it's testing, but also reassuring at the same time. It's like it tests in such a way that you can put your faith in it.0 -
How are you finding P&D Scriba? It seems like a mental amount of miles to me!Physically, it's not so bad. I tend to switch off when I run, and racing recently gave me a boost. But mentally it's a bit more taxing, trying to figure out where I can fit one in each day. The mid-week runs are time consuming too. I'm hoping I can get out a bit more in the early mornings now that they're getting a bit brighter, along with the clocks changing too.
But for all that, it's the best thing I've ever done for my running (not that I'm running long - just a year). I feel tired yet strong at the same time, if that makes sense? And the running speeds are mixed up so that there's something a bit different about each run, except this week, which is a step back week. I 'enjoy' doing the LT runs because they're a good work out, but also a good gauge of the improvement in my fitness. The runs at marathon pace give me confidence that I might be able to hold it for the 26.2 when June hits. So it's testing, but also reassuring at the same time. It's like it tests in such a way that you can put your faith in it.
I've already said this in another thread but I think its important to note that with P&D do not expect to be lining up at the start line as fresh as a daisy.You may even start to question the wisdom of P&D in your head, as in were all these miles too much?
But rest assured if you can follow the plan (some say 80% of the plan) as closely as possible ,well then you will have no bother in not just completing a marathon but actually running it.
P&D really helps with the mental side of running 26.2 miles as well.0 -
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Physically, it's not so bad. I tend to switch off when I run, and racing recently gave me a boost. But mentally it's a bit more taxing, trying to figure out where I can fit one in each day. The mid-week runs are time consuming too. I'm hoping I can get out a bit more in the early mornings now that they're getting a bit brighter, along with the clocks changing too.
But for all that, it's the best thing I've ever done for my running (not that I'm running long - just a year). I feel tired yet strong at the same time, if that makes sense? And the running speeds are mixed up so that there's something a bit different about each run, except this week, which is a step back week. I 'enjoy' doing the LT runs because they're a good work out, but also a good gauge of the improvement in my fitness. The runs at marathon pace give me confidence that I might be able to hold it for the 26.2 when June hits. So it's testing, but also reassuring at the same time. It's like it tests in such a way that you can put your faith in it.
Cheers for that, if I get through Cork in one piece I may try and make the step up for Dublin. All providing I don't hate the site of a pair of runners after Cork of course... 0 -
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Cheers for that, if I get through Cork in one piece I may try and make the step up for Dublin. All providing I don't hate the site of a pair of runners after Cork of course...
You and me both - I may set myself on fire at the finish line to prevent this ever happening again. :P I probably won't do Dublin this year, but I'll keep an open mind on it. The only thing is that there's a hell of a wait before another Irish marathon. I might do Clonakilty in December instead.0 -
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Jebus Scriba, have you thawed out yet....11 min miles in cork today !!
Great running last week by the way. Ur 10 mile time in ballycotton shows ur getting the benefits of the plan already.
Ha ha! Just about! It took a long shower, and couple of bowls of homemade soup. Believe me, I'd have loved to have kicked on. But reflecting on the positives, it's extra time on my feet for endurance and teaching the body to burn some of my fat stores (I have plenty), and I can honestly say that I haven't pushed it (at all) in my recovery week.
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Thurs 14/3/2013
Week 7, Session 2 P&D 6.4km recovery
6.27 km in 39:16 @ 6:16/km
Morning run! 4.6 km done on grass. Bright and beautiful!
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Mar 11th - 17th | 2 | 22.3 km | 103.47 km | 484.84 km0 -
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Sat 16/3/2013
Week 7, Session 4 P&D 11k Gen aer w 8 x 100m strides.
11.02 km in 1:03:46 @ 5:47/km (9.1 km or so on grass)
Bright sunny morning in Cork, and a little chilly. My favourite running weather, went up to do grass laps of the local park. Legs felt great on my fourth consecutive running day, loosened up quickly, possibly helped by an unusually thorough stretching of my calf muscles beforehand. Maybe a little quick, though definitely within my prescribed range for easy pace. I was feeling good, so good in fact, that I even did my strides. :P
Tomorrow has my longest ever run, 29km, but I'm looking forward to being out on my feet for nearly three hours (I plan to do this one conservatively at around 6 min/km or a little under). I must keep reminding myself to bring some emergency haribo and a couple of euro also. I have a rough figure 8 of the south side mapped out for the big runs, with my house smack bang in the middle, so that should be most of my hydration sorted out. Work starts here.
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Mar 11th - 17th | 4 | 51.04 km | 132.21 km | 513.58 km0 -
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Good luck with tomorrow scriba, I'll be doing the Harty Quay loop x 3 myself in the morning. Hoping the weather is like today!
If you see a man with a fiery ginger-haired aurora about his visage, that'll be me! I'll be running Turners cross to the Marina, Blackrock Castle, round the loop, back the marina into town, and then out to Togher, Wilton, Bishopstown, Melbourne Road, out Model Farm road towards Ballincollig, round the roundabout and back in the straight road. Fingers crossed for the weather all right, but sure we'll be out regardless. Gonna try do this at 7am, just to have a fighting chance of putting running-related activities to bed before midday, but we'll see how it goes. 0 -
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