Cork GAA Discussion Thread

Treble20 · 19-08-2012 5:53pm

ShamoBuc wrote: »

Car full of the buddies lined up, not going to miss this one!!

I wish I could make this game,I really think this could be a cracker of a game.

Randy Watson · 20-08-2012 8:36am

willietherock wrote: »

You can't play the slowest person on your panel in the one position where pace is most important. Cork need a fullback next yr. After a disappointing season in the half line Eoin Cadogan may well go back to his tried and tested position. Rodgers and Cahalane are the only two underage fullbacks Cork have produced and both may be a bit short of being senior standard.

Cadogan has already been tried at full back and was found wanting. He is not or never will be a full back in my opinion. He's far more suited to the half back line.

McDonnell is Corks best bet at this position.

D'Agger · 20-08-2012 10:30am

ShamoBuc wrote: »

Rockies beat Bride by 2-11 v 0-14
Newtown and Piarsaighs drew.
While the Glen hammered the shít out of Cloyne apparently - by 16 pts:eek:

Rockies up against Sars next though - I'm not the most knowledgeable when it comes to club hurling in Cork but that's going to be an uphill battle for them

ShamoBuc · 20-08-2012 11:06am

Sars have a fine team - super underage set up - but they have the very annoying habit of blowing hot and cold way too often, no consistency whatsoever.

The Barrs have been putting in a major effort this year apparently, football and hurling, I think they will be there or there abouts.

D'Agger · 20-08-2012 11:16am

ShamoBuc wrote: »

Sars have a fine team - super underage set up - but they have the very annoying habit of blowing hot and cold way too often, no consistency whatsoever.

The Barrs have been putting in a major effort this year apparently, football and hurling, I think they will be there or there abouts.

From what I've heard the Barrs have been pumping massive energy into their setup and underage development so they should be strong - one of the bigger teams in Cork anyway sure.

ShamoBuc · 20-08-2012 11:21am

PaulieC wrote: »

From what I've heard the Barrs have been pumping massive energy into their setup and underage development so they should be strong - one of the bigger teams in Cork anyway sure.

Size isn't everything...ahem....apparently:D

Kristofferson · 20-08-2012 3:24pm

It will be a tough match v Donegal but I reckon we (cork) should prevail. Donegal wont have the bottle. They almost threw away the match v Kerry and are just not experienced enough for these high pressure matches.

ShamoBuc · 20-08-2012 3:31pm

Kristofferson wrote: »

It will be a tough match v Donegal but I reckon we (cork) should prevail. Donegal wont have the bottle. They almost threw away the match v Kerry and are just not experienced enough for these high pressure matches.

They have a fair bit of experience but Sunday will certainly be a different kettle of fish. I remember seeing Dublin wilt entirely in the last 15-20 mins in the semi in 2010. I'm not sure donegal will do the same - hopefully because cork are ahead with 20 to go:)

D'Agger · 20-08-2012 4:56pm

Kristofferson wrote: »

It will be a tough match v Donegal but I reckon we (cork) should prevail. Donegal wont have the bottle. They almost threw away the match v Kerry and are just not experienced enough for these high pressure matches.

Highly disrespectful of Donegal tbh - they showed plenty bottle to get past Kerry - who, as a Kerryman felt would have had them had they upped the tempo earlier in the second half but that's another story.

They also showed tremendous character to get past Kildare last year in extra time after a physically punishing game - now, the counter to that is the fact that it's 12 months ago - but form is temporary, there's no guarantee Cork will play to the best of their ability and who's to say Donegal won't up it a notch?

Anything can happen on a Sunday in Croker

ShamoBuc · 22-08-2012 10:23pm

Team will be announced tomorrow night. I presume it will be along the same lines as the last day. Any news on injuries?

Treble20 · 22-08-2012 10:41pm

ShamoBuc wrote: »

Team will be announced tomorrow night. I presume it will be along the same lines as the last day. Any news on injuries?

As far as I'm aware Ray Carey is the only injury concern.

ShamoBuc · 23-08-2012 12:31am

The difference between this time last year and now is staggering. Our depth was stretched last year while we have a veritable host of riches on the bench now.

Randy Watson · 23-08-2012 12:48pm

I wouldn't take the team announced tonight as fact

ShamoBuc · 23-08-2012 2:41pm

Randy Watson wrote: »

I wouldn't take the team announced tonight as fact

True, he has a habit of changing it around anyway.

Treble20 · 23-08-2012 9:58pm

Cork team named tonight. The only change from the starting 15 that played Kildare is Patrick Kelly comes in at centre forward instead of Ciaran Sheehan. Ray Carey fit to play and starts.

ShamoBuc · 23-08-2012 10:57pm

1. Alan Quirke

2. Ray Carey 3. Michael Shields 4. Eoin Cadogan

5. Paudie Kissane 6. Graham Canty 7. Noel O Leary

8. Alan O'Connor 9. Aidan Walsh

10. Fintan Goold 11. Patrick Kelly 12. Paul Kerrigan

13. Colm O Neill 14. Donncha O'Connor 15. Nicholas Murphy

Glad to see Paddy start, he really loves the open spaces of Croker. As has been mentioned, there will probably be a change or two before throw in, although he might surprise us and leave them start as above.

ShamoBuc · 25-08-2012 12:32pm

Some start for the cork ladies against donegal - a goal after 30 seconds!

ShamoBuc · 25-08-2012 12:53pm

Half way through the first half and I think it's fair to say the Cork ladies have this one well and truly wrapped up. Cork 3-5 v 0-01 donegal.

Donegal keeper having a nightmare. Cork are playing against the wind also.

Not too keen on the Cork jersey. Maybe it's the sponsor placement or something, looks more maroon than red also ( might be the tv)

Amprodude · 25-08-2012 1:11pm

Really excited about this game tomorrow. As a Corkman I think Cork should have the artillery to beat Donegal but have huge respect for this Donegal team and what they have achieved in 2 years and if Cork win they will sure earn it. Id say they will be only a kick of a ball between the two sides with Cork hopefully coming out on top

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rebel girl 15 · 25-08-2012 1:29pm

@sham the new design is too dark red alright, i've seen it and it is quite dark, though i've been told that a new kit with a better red will be sorted.

It was always going to be difficult for Donegal, four or five players missing, one sister getting married, and 2 bridesmaids. Its too easy for Cork, and thats a big worry for the semi final stage.

Cork should have had 4, don't know how Ciara O Sullivan hit the post from a yard out!

ShamoBuc · 25-08-2012 1:51pm

ht Cork 3-13 v 0-02 Donegal

ft Cork 8-27 v 0-02 Donegal

That was simply a pleasure to watch- unless you are from Donegal of course. The performance by the ladies must be some kind of a record for an All Ireland qf. The passing, running off the ball etc was as good as it gets.

Defence - tight, controlled and didn't see much of the ball.
Midfield - imperious.
Forwards, well 8-27!

Yes donegal had a few missing but from start to finish Cork went at them and never let up. Totally 'professional'.

Well lads, the same again will do tomorrow:pac::

rebel girl 15 · 25-08-2012 2:11pm

as much as I love seeing Cork win, I don't like seeing teams being hammered, neither side learned much. Donegal were extremely poor, and had spoken about giving a walkover in the days leadin up to the game, Donegal's missing players wouldn't have changed the result, but i'd be cautious of Cork in the semi depending on who they draw.

Donegal made Cork look very good at times, but this Cork team are one of the best, mens or womens to come out of Cork ever, 6 All Ireland titles in 7 years, beating 5 different teams in the finals, which shows the strength of other teams

ShamoBuc · 25-08-2012 7:32pm

Carrigtwohill beat the Glen by 2pts.
Piarsaighs beat Newtown by 1-15 to 1-11

And Ballinhassig thrashed Inniscarra in the semi of the PIHC 2-18 v 0-09

SeaFields · 25-08-2012 9:28pm

We'll have to bottle some of that killer instinct of the girls and give it to conor to hand around. Heard the final score earlier and really is a jaw dropping scoreline.

ShamoBuc wrote: »

And Ballinhassig thrashed Inniscarra in the semi of the PIHC 2-18 v 0-09

Ah bollocks. A buddy of mine was playing for Inniscarra.

ShamoBuc · 25-08-2012 10:54pm

In the other PIHC semi Bandon beat Youghal 1-16 v 0-06 ( 0-09 v 0-05 at ht)

Youghal never turned up apparently and Bandon looked a fit and fast team.

ShamoBuc · 26-08-2012 9:41am

Cork at ht and ft at 6/4...bet is made to try to cover the day!!

Come on The Rebels!!!

rebel girl 15 · 26-08-2012 3:26pm

changes to the team

Noelie goes to corner back, Fintan Goold to wing back, Ciaran Sheehan comes in, and Goulding comes in for Nic Murphy

SeaFields · 26-08-2012 5:36pm

Horribly disappointing.

When it not your day, its just not your day. Hitting the post for the goal chance summed it up. We were outclassed everywhere by a team that is very hungry and every little break seemed to go against us.

Cant have any complaints in the manner is which we were defeated. They were the better team, simples.

Time for Counihan to hand over the reigns?

Stinicker · 26-08-2012 6:23pm

Surely it is time for Counihan to step down after today, he has delivered very little for Cork football despite have some genuinely talented lads. He opened his 1st year with defeat to Kerry in the All-Ireland semi-final of 2008, once again Kerry came back to haunt his side in 2009 with a second All-Ireland defeat in 3 years.

In 2010 again Kerry defeated Cork but failed to make the All-Ireland final and Cork won their 1st All-Ireland in 20 years, but questions still remain to be asked and in 2011 they exited too easily at the hands of Mayo in the All-Ireland quarter final.

This year was by many analysts supposed to be Cork's year, they crashed and burned to Donegal and showed alot of their age and despite being there or thereabouts for the last 8 years they lacked that killer instinct to close out the game when they were getting on top for periods of the game.

Alot has been made of Cork's National League success but when the long days of summer come around they were found wanting once again.

Surely some of the Cork lads will now hang up their boots and allow for newer talent to join the squad, Graham Canty, Paudie Kissane, Nicholas Murphy and Donncha O'Connor are all well past their prime and time will tell if they have a place within the Cork senior panel.

As for Counihan himself, whilst he has delivered Cork's greatest success in two decades he still has many questions hanging over him. Mainly Cork's failure to win back to back All-Irelands last year and his ultimate failure to defeat Kerry in Croke Park when he had some great opportunities.

2008, knocked out by Kerry in AI Semi-Final
2009, lost AI Final to Kerry, could've easily had won it, many many wides
2010, Won AI Final,
2011, lost to Kerry, knocked out by Mayo
2012, beaten comprehensively by Donegal
2013?

uriah · 26-08-2012 6:29pm

Stinicker wrote: »

Surely some of the Cork lads will now hang up their boots and allow for newer talent to join the squad, Graham Canty, Paudie Kissane, Nicholas Murphy and Donncha O'Connor are all well past their prime and time will tell if they have a place within the Cork senior panel.

Donncha O'Connor is only 31 and has been playing very well - today was not a good day, but anyone can have an off day.

Orizio · 26-08-2012 6:31pm

Disappointing, but the lads didn't let anyone down. Yes they've under-achieved but they did so with little to no support from the Cork public and under a tactically inept and exceedingly conservative management. But the amount of effort and work the lads put in was huge over the past 5 years.

Regarding match, Donegal could and probably deserved to win by 7-8 points. Their conditioning and fitness was far superior to ours, and the fact that we tried to play the game through the middle and ended up with two Donegal forwards against two Cork backs in oceans of space on multiple occasions just shows you how little a plan we had to beat them. Their tackling was also much better then ours. Our half-back line got over-run largely because our management have relied almost completely on great but aging players since the AI win who couldn't deal with their opponents intensity. On top of that our midfield got cleaned out which ruined any decent platform to attack forward with.

Anyway, we will be back in transition, since presumably management will move on, along with at least 2-3 lads that played today. Mercifully Kerry will be right down there with us.

Syferus · 26-08-2012 6:32pm

Hard to blame this on Turtle, almost snide to do so. Cork got their tactics right, they were simply beat by a better team on the day.

Orizio · 26-08-2012 7:01pm

Syferus wrote: »

Hard to blame this on Turtle, almost snide to do so. Cork got their tactics right, they were simply beat by a better team on the day.

What.

Syferus · 26-08-2012 7:06pm

Orizio wrote: »

What.

Someone said Counihan looked like an up-turned turtle and the nickname stuck around these parts, boyo!

Orizio · 26-08-2012 7:16pm

Syferus wrote: »

Someone said Counihan looked like an up-turned turtle and the nickname stuck around these parts, boyo!

That's nice, now how about you explain where (a) the snide part of my post was, (b) where Cork got their tactics right and (c) where I said we weren't beat by the better team.

Cheers.

Syferus · 26-08-2012 7:25pm

Orizio wrote: »

That's nice, now how about you explain where (a) the snide part of my post was, (b) where Cork got their tactics right and (c) where I said we weren't beat by the better team.

Cheers.

I was referring to Snicker's post when I said snide; your post came through between me starting to reply and posting that comment.

Orizio · 26-08-2012 7:38pm

Fair enough.

Treble20 · 26-08-2012 7:41pm

No complaints from me,Donegal were deserving winners today,we tried hard but the best team won,congratulations Donegal. While Cork will be slated on certain GAA forums and Facebook pages for losing today this team have served Cork supporters well,4 National league titles in a row,2 Munster championships and an All Ireland title in the last 3 years,we really can't complain with this team no matter what certain people will say.

RoscommonTom · 26-08-2012 8:02pm

Tough look lads, you werent at the races at all today but no shame in it, think the donegals are the real deal and would fancy them to give the Jackeens a good beating in the final, theres always next year,

Amprodude · 26-08-2012 9:15pm

very disappointed with today. Cotk outclassed all over the field. Close in the end but the better team won. Congrats Donegal.

Stinicker · 26-08-2012 9:22pm

RoscommonTom wrote: »

Tough look lads, you werent at the races at all today but no shame in it, think the donegals are the real deal and would fancy them to give the Jackeens a good beating in the final, theres always next year,

I am fully expecting Mayo to defeat Dublin.

ShamoBuc · 26-08-2012 9:30pm

Stinicker wrote: »

I am fully expecting Mayo to defeat Dublin.

Just read your pm.....you really are one of a kind.....and not in a good way, I won't be replying to it btw.

ShamoBuc · 26-08-2012 9:34pm

A change in management is a must now. We need to utilize the capabilities that we have better. I felt we got the tactics wrong today - starting with 7 forwards, not having Murphy in the corner was just wrong. We had no impact sub when we needed it. Some players didn't perform as well as we would have liked but such is life.

Amprodude · 26-08-2012 9:41pm

ShamoBuc wrote: »

A change in management is a must now. We need to utilize the capabilities that we have better. I felt we got the tactics wrong today - starting with 7 forwards, not having Murphy in the corner was just wrong. We had no impact sub when we needed it. Some players didn't perform as well as we would have liked but such is life.

I was there today and the game reminded me of the 2009 All Ireland final. Surprised with some of Corks decision making on the field and the inability of Cork players to pick a good pass to another player. Dont know how Counihan prepaired his team for todays game but id like to see a change after todays result.

Stinicker · 26-08-2012 10:17pm

ShamoBuc wrote: »

Just read your pm.....you really are one of a kind.....and not in a good way, I won't be replying to it btw.

It was actually originally composed by your county compatriot teednab-el and sent to me after Donegal beat Kerry. I've just changed the word Kerry to Cork, made a few grammatical corrections and sent it out to all my fellow Cork buddies. :pac: I bet there wasn't as many Cork people shouting for Donegal today as there was three weeks ago! :eek:

ShamoBuc · 26-08-2012 10:22pm

Stinicker wrote: »

It was actually originally composed by your county compatriot teednab-el and sent to me after Donegal beat Kerry. I've just changed the word Kerry to Cork, made a few grammatical corrections and sent it out to all my fellow Cork buddies. :pac: I bet there wasn't as many Cork people shouting for Donegal today as there was three weeks ago! :eek:

Why send it others? That's just infantile in the extreme.....but if the cap fits!

There was probably as many Kerry folk shouting for Donegal today as there was Cork folk shouting for Donegal 3 weeks ago- not exactly a revelation.

teednab-el · 26-08-2012 10:26pm

Stinicker wrote: »

ShamoBuc wrote: »

Just read your pm.....you really are one of a kind.....and not in a good way, I won't be replying to it btw.

It was actually originally composed by your county compatriot teednab-el and sent to me after Donegal beat Kerry. I've just changed the word Kerry to Cork, made a few grammatical corrections and sent it out to all my fellow Cork buddies. :pac: I bet there wasn't as many Cork people shouting for Donegal today as there was three weeks ago! :eek:

I never got it. What did it say?

ShamoBuc · 26-08-2012 10:29pm

teednab-el wrote: »

I never got it. What did it say?

That the stinicker fella is a closet rebel and wants to come out....I think he should stay where he is as he's not really wanted around these parts:pac:

teednab-el · 26-08-2012 11:29pm

ShamoBuc wrote: »

teednab-el wrote: »

I never got it. What did it say?

That the stinicker fella is a closet rebel and wants to come out....I think he should stay where he is as he's not really wanted around these parts:pac:

He secretly loves Cork.

LeoB · 27-08-2012 12:57am

As a football fan I was disappointed with Cork today. Its easy to blame Counihan but some of the decision making on the field was poor and unlike this Cork team in fairness to them. The service to Donnacha O'Connor was poor and when Cork were playing well they were to slow to get the ball the ball to him and the inside players or they had to come too far away from scoring area to do any damage.

There were also a few important decisions went against Cork in the first half. Kerrigan I felt was foulded twice and on one occasion a free was given against him while at the other end a free was given against Shields and these decisions caused a 3 point difference in the scores. A free was awarde against Sheehan (I think) for a throw ball when he clearly struck it with his hand. These decisions while small at the time all add up to drain a team and I think this told against Cork who semed drained at times. Yet there was only 2 points in it at the end. Cork were very good in the first half and got some great scores.

In fairnes to Donegal they have some shape about them this year and I would say (as Dub) they are favourite for All-Ireland. (I hope they read this too). Murphy McFadden, McBrearty are deadly when they get a chance and they can bring on 4 or 5 lads who can score also.

I think that Cork team will be back next year

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