Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie
Hi all! We have been experiencing an issue on site where threads have been missing the latest postings. The platform host Vanilla are working on this issue. A workaround that has been used by some is to navigate back from 1 to 10+ pages to re-sync the thread and this will then show the latest posts. Thanks, Mike.
Hi there,
There is an issue with role permissions that is being worked on at the moment.
If you are having trouble with access or permissions on regional forums please post here to get access: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058365403/you-do-not-have-permission-for-that#latest

The Americans [FX - Spoilers]

1246723

Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,758 ✭✭✭Temaz


    Once Stan suspects his perfect neighbours the show will go into orbit.

    For such a brilliantly written show as this I have no doubt the tension and cat/mouse scenarios they will come up with will make for brilliant viewing for fans.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,916 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    Thought this was a great episode. I loved all the flashbacks to the 60s but what was really standout was Philip's reaction to Paige lying to him about visiting Aunt Helen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,133 ✭✭✭FloatingVoter


    iguana wrote: »
    Thought this was a great episode. I loved all the flashbacks to the 60s but what was really standout was Philip's reaction to Paige lying to him about visiting Aunt Helen.

    Yes...he's already beginning to put her in his world - "lying will not be tolerated". As conflicted with the burning of the letter. She wants them to stay American kids - he's willing to deal with reality but is the girl ?
    Oh...and her convenient friend that she met on the trip (I have my suspicions).
    This show is getting better and better. I'm starting to suspect our scalping friend might be working an angle as well. No wonder this lot all wound up dead or alcoholic ****ups.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 18,511 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    2.03

    No way that letter could survive. Good scene, mind.

    Obviously the kids were the big theme of this one. Good man, Henry - keep nerding it up. As for Paige's 'technically a hamburger', oh did I lol at that! A little bit of the paranoia that's been floating around had me thinking that her field trip would involve us seeing her being followed, but we don't need that when aunt Helen's a layer to keep things at bay. Philip can do the angry dad thing without spitting fire.

    The 'Jackie' wig was a little odd, but mix it with a crow bar, I tell ya.

    Stan said the 3 words. You could see the wheels turning in Nina's head.

    Scalping tickets be capitalist, yo!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,916 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    I'm starting to suspect our scalping friend might be working an angle as well. No wonder this lot all wound up dead or alcoholic ****ups.

    That KGB guy is working in science and technology. I'm wondering, seeing as this is 1982, if his introduction is a way of showing us the fallout of Vladimir Vetrov's betrayal of the Line X spies. I hope it is as it would be great link to a not so well known but quite important piece of recent history.


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,987 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    can the sun not figure out your supposed to keep the thing pinned togther in the center


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    Crazy fight scene at the end!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,916 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    She was praying Philip praying!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,987 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    iguana wrote: »
    She was praying Philip praying!
    he didn't tell her about her trip?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 18,511 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    he didn't tell her about her trip?

    Didn't seem like it..?

    2.04

    I just really like how this show works and brings its different elements together.

    The Claudia and Elizabeth relationship picked up right where it left off. Obviously the fight at the end echoed Claudia's concern. The story Elizabeth told the sailor was pretty disturbing and convincing, one review mentioned that it mirrored what we heard/saw in the pilot.

    Some sort of investigation into Gaad was inevitable. I like him. Meanwhile, Oleg dials up the nepotism to get access. His talk with Nina was interesting, one for the future, maybe? Remember, in Soviet Russia, you call everyone by their full name! Wonder what Martha's next move is.

    The reaction to Paige's praying at dinner made me laugh. Poor Henry just can't catch a break. :p


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,987 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    my theory for why claudia the handler looked so ashen faced
    she killed the family


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,012 ✭✭✭✭Alfred Borden


    This worth starting?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,545 ✭✭✭tunguska


    Raf32 wrote: »
    This worth starting?


    Yeah definitely. The story lines are really strong but its the acting for me that makes it stand out. Keri Russell and Matthew Rhys are Brilliant. Set in 1980 so Top soundtrack too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,012 ✭✭✭✭Alfred Borden


    tunguska wrote: »
    Yeah definitely. The story lines are really strong but its the acting for me that makes it stand out. Keri Russell and Matthew Rhys are Brilliant. Set in 1980 so Top soundtrack too.

    thank you, ill give it a go later so :)


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 18,511 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    Aren't they just great? :D

    tumblr_n0geoiqGoV1s4kdelo1_250.giftumblr_n0geoiqGoV1s4kdelo3_250.giftumblr_n0geoiqGoV1s4kdelo4_250.gif

    tumblr_n0geoiqGoV1s4kdelo8_250.giftumblr_n0geoiqGoV1s4kdelo7_250.gif


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,012 ✭✭✭✭Alfred Borden


    Well i dont regret starting this, its excellent. Cant believe i didnt start this gem of a show earlier. Back up to date now and really interested in the stan story. Some brilliant acting in there too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,758 ✭✭✭Temaz


    Aren't they just great? :D

    tumblr_n0geoiqGoV1s4kdelo1_250.giftumblr_n0geoiqGoV1s4kdelo3_250.giftumblr_n0geoiqGoV1s4kdelo4_250.gif

    tumblr_n0geoiqGoV1s4kdelo8_250.giftumblr_n0geoiqGoV1s4kdelo7_250.gif

    Apparently they are getting quite close to each other on the set!


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 18,511 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    2.05

    Necessarily grim and unsexy at times, but very strong episode overall. Turn the screws into pretty much every character. Some self-doubt for Paige and Elizabeth adds her own extraction (and presumably sex envy!) into the mix.

    Really liked Philip's scenes with the Mossad bloke (Cliff Simon, AKA, Baal in Stargate) - two opposing philosophies, without shouting or explosions. It's usually a sign of death when a character starts going on about where they grew up, etc, so it was good that the Mossad bloke wasn't killed. Think the camera closing in on Philip when he was called a monster might be telling, who knows? Maybe not. Oleg's (student of capitalism, ya see) chat with Stan was inevitable, he had to stick his head into the field at some point. Glad to see Gaad is still around equal or junior though he now is, at least he can help with the grunt work of intelligence. n00b handler, we'll see. Solid final scene, back to domestic normality with an alarm buzzer.

    'Is President Reagan personally scaling our walls wearing his cowboy hat? We are better at vodka; they are better at cigarettes.' Class


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 18,511 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    2.06

    Um, well, I'm still shocked from the Clark scene. What are you meant to say after something like that?

    The young handler provides directions/missions from the Centre whilst Claudia's role now is mostly experience, and Philip and Elizabeth's safety, right? The other young one who slept with and killed the congressman's aide seems a tad cocky and naive. That was her first blood, yeah?

    Stan's in a quite corner. Not sure Nina has walked completely, seems unlikely. 'Blackmail, however, seldom leads to a happy conclusion' - quite.

    Framed appearances of two Lenin and Reagan (TV, also) this week, plus Elizabeth's CIA wig and glasses were rather funky. I presume this business of the training camps is going to carry things for the next few episodes. Heavy risks there, methinks.

    The FBI's got a fancy dot matrix printing!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,012 ✭✭✭✭Alfred Borden


    Strange episode. was good but just found it all very strange.


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,518 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,012 ✭✭✭✭Alfred Borden


    very good episode, progressing nicely now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,916 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    This was probably my least favourite episode this year. I thought the description of the Arpanet likening it to Postman God was kind of terrible a lot of the rest of the episode was set up for later, which is fine but it made it a bit slower than normal.

    I'm not 100% convinced that Nina passed the lie detector. We didn't see what the guy doing it actually told Stan and as Stan's a professional investigator with serious experience working undercover, it's possible he decided in advance that if Nina failed the test, he would play her.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 18,511 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    2.07

    Not the best episode they've done, lacking something. The core mission remains in tact and is still mostly interesting around the edges, and with the build up and the key players.

    The positives were the general geekiness and the polygraph stuff. The internet, sorry, computer handshake at the post office, hmm. I did like Philip's wig with the glasses. Even Henry got some profile here and Oleg's a gospel music nerd, who'd a thunk it?

    Nina/Oleg polygraph prep in English was decent enough. They do seem to be leaving it open to interpretation as to her status. Stan's obviously got investigative creds, yet it's hard to shake the feeling he's emotionally compromised, but it did feel like there was a crumb or two there to suggest the noose isn't far from Nina.

    'Squeeze your anus' - think we'll all remember that one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    Definitely didnt see the end scene ahem coming at all!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,133 ✭✭✭FloatingVoter


    Lie Detectors are beatable. And anus jokes aside, it does involve manipulating your blood pressure. I think a stone in your shoe might achieve the same effect.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    I wonder can they stretch it a few years till the wall comes down


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,916 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    Well that was a great episode. I'm really glad they are weaving in a fictionalised version of the real life consequences of the CIA counter-measures to the Farewell dossier. Philip's reaction to it was great. He went from loving his car and really enjoying the perks of living in America to being disgusted by it all.

    And Henry was unexpectedly heart-rending at the end.


  • Advertisement
  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 18,511 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    2.08

    Well, who hasn't done a little air guitar in the driveway on a winter morning?! And feckin' hell, is everyone playing computer games, even Oleg? :P He seems a tad overconfident, no?

    Welcome to the stealth era and welcome back to Vasili. Mother Russia isn't easy - indeed. A rough week for the commies and emotionally for everyone, really. The submarine propellor thing was clear once Kate was upset. Harsh. You could see the contrast in Philip compared to his earlier discussion about life in America.

    Poor Henry. I did feel rather sorry for him in the end. Credit to the actor for actually carrying the scene rather well without it being mawkish. Kitchen, forest and Stan's bureaucrat scenes were rather well done, too.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 18,511 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    Man, there are times when this show is scarily good. It has such a balance between the web of lies, plot momentum and character work.

    2.09

    Infiltration complete, with the grisly end of the spy business.

    Can Stan put the Project Harvey and murder jigsaw together (physical evidence scene was not easy, but not exploitative), or will Martha point to him as the leak? And just what the hell was Mrs. Stan listening to, jaysus!

    Philip's mental state seems fairly shredded, yes? Gaad sitting down with Arkady felt like a punch the air moment.

    'They are better at it than we are'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    Beamen is onto something! He could be quite close


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    Mc Love wrote: »
    Beamen is onto something! He could be quite close

    Wouldn't have gotten there without Gadd and the briefcase!


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 18,511 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    2.10

    Tough enough mission this week, good to hear about Afghanistan. Also a reminder that domestic ones i.e., raising Paige*, isn't easy, either. The usual sex/death juxtaposition. Annelise's self-digust breakdown seemed inevitable. I don't envy Philip listening in, he looked well in his Swedish intelligence suit, mind. *'3 months? That's the summer - it's summer camp!' Social values, careful now!

    Maximum use of the snow and good to hear Amador hasn't been forgotten. Gaad had a nice catch with the briefcase, but the pen returns. I tell ya, Larrick was pretty damn scary going through that house with the young family.

    Did you spot the Crimea reference in the Nina/Oleg subtitles? Eh...

    MAD - keeps the world spinning.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 18,511 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    2.11

    Setting things up nicely for the last two episodes. Good opening scene with the scientist and again, it's really in the subdued scenes with just two actors, where you don't need big or clever dialogue. Philip and Elizabeth's marriage is another example. Loved the huge abandoned tanks where Philip had one of his meetings.

    Whilst exploiting someone's weakness is a key part of what they do, I'm not sure I fully bought getting the cancer guy open up, though money helps. Always good to see Zeljko Ivanek. RAM brings a cold and harsh reminder that military technology requires some personal sacrifice.

    Ceiling fan gets a bonus for just that and Larrick's torture methods. Knew the toilet roll had to be something and Nina's status is not unexpected.

    FBI comics!

    'Travel agents can't really compete with the FBI. Except when it comes to cars!'


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,916 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    It was a great episode but my favourite moments were probably the interactions between Paige and Elizabeth. I loved how Paige had readied her speech about who she is as a prelude for wanting her parents to let her go protest at America's military weapons. Despite the involvement of her church group, what she wanted to do was the type of thing Elizabeth dreamed about her doing. Elizabeth was delighted and started feeling a kinship with and respect for Paige that she hasn't ever felt. While Paige was in utter shock that her mother so quickly agreed to something she expecting to be turned down about. Elizabeth telling Phillip in the final scene that she has just realised how like her Paige is was really meanigful.

    And it didn't hurt that Elizabeth and Phillip needed Paige to go away and leave them alone right there and then, so they could investigate their missing handler.

    I also loved how Arkady manipulated the situation with Oleg to either protect Nina from the centre or motivate her further. I can't tell exactly what Arkady's plan was but that man is smart cookie.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,518 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Season 2 starts tonight on RTE 2


  • Registered Users Posts: 538 ✭✭✭rok


    watched the start of season 2 on RTE2 last night, very good episode. Thought it might weaken mid way through the 1st season but it didn't disappoint, very good writing - one of my favourite shows.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,133 ✭✭✭Patty O Furniture


    rok wrote: »
    watched the start of season 2 on RTE2 last night, very good episode. Thought it might weaken mid way through the 1st season but it didn't disappoint, very good writing - one of my favourite shows.

    Same here, but how has it fared in the US as the 12th ep is on tonite in the US or are there some filler ep ahead?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,133 ✭✭✭FloatingVoter


    Same here, but how has it fared in the US as the 12th ep is on tonite in the US or are there some filler ep ahead?

    Very little filler. Most episodes move the plot along at a decent pace. Without spoiling it, I can't say more.


  • Advertisement
  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


    This post has been deleted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,254 ✭✭✭Spon Farmer


    did anyone watch or record the first episode of season 2 last night?

    my UPC box shows that the full episode was recorded but at the scene where the colonel is telling Beeman about Sandford's death the screen goes black and drops out to the My Recordings menu.

    this happen to anyone else?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,758 ✭✭✭Temaz


    Maybe the viewers watching on RTE start a new thread so the potential for spoilers will be a little less?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,916 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    I was watching this weeks episode and it struck me that the last time I felt this tense and nervous for a tv character was in last year's finale. This show is great at building tension.

    Also, I've come to really love Oleg. Up until a few episodes ago I saw him as a slimey creep. But he's actually turned out to be one of the show's more genuine and least morally questionable characters. His exchange with Nina at the end was great.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 18,511 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    2.12

    Henry, my good man - Star Trek shout out. Martha - wig detection skillz! Felt a little concerned for her once she laid that batch of FBI files on the table. Mail Robot, fcuk yeah!

    Strong episode, and again we see just how much the show is built on character. If my parents were travel agents and fecking off for an 'emergency' I'd probably question it, too. The Jared situation seemed rather perilous with Larrick on the prowl. Elizabeth's concern grows. I had seen the Stan/Arkady shot in the promo, wasn't expecting Nina to be black and blue, should have been. Stan's character has changed so much compared to when he was a threat to Philip and Elizabeth.

    Certainly felt the chill as Fred walked into the meeting. Special shoes sounds about right.

    Health, growth and community.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,916 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    Another thing. I just can't believe that Paige's pastor is on the level. There is something so creepy about him, like he's grooming her for something.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 18,511 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    Yeah, something doesn't seem right there, though they've not given him much screen time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 538 ✭✭✭rok


    any good reason why "The Americans" is on so late , 10.45pm on RTE2.
    Surely they could bump it forward in place of that crap Revenge or Greys Anatomy!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,729 ✭✭✭brian_t


    rok wrote: »
    any good reason why "The Americans" is on so late , 10.45pm on RTE2.
    Surely they could bump it forward in place of that crap Revenge or Greys Anatomy!

    The more popular a programme is the earlier it will be shown in the evening.

    Revenge was the most watched non-sport programme on RTE2 last week.

    Revenge finishes this week however and I believe that there is a double-bill of The Americans next week starting at 9.55pm.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 101 ✭✭Supup


    OMFG!!!


    I've been watching The Americans online and just finished Season 2 this evening. Two fantastis twists (could even be three) in the last 10 minutes.

    Breath taking stuff :)


  • Advertisement
Advertisement