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Tennessee Titans Thread

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  • #52
    Heffo001
    Registered Users Posts: 253 ✭✭Heffo001


    helimachoptor wrote: »
    I don't think Reid or Elam will survive past the 1st round, but for the Titans if they do it would be fantastic!

    I've seen mixed reports on both, the pre draft process might determine how high or low they go. Don't think the Titans could go wrong with either of them of TJ McDonald in the second though if that's the direction they want to go in.

    First round pick will be interesting. Not sure a Guard is worth 10th overall so unless they trade back I think they might take a DT or DE as that's where the value could match need imo.


  • #53
    helimachoptor
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    If Chance is as good as people say, he's worth it given the struggles this year, then it's hoping that one of the decent SS or CBs fall to the 2nd round.


  • #54
    Dohnny Jepp
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    helimachoptor wrote: »
    If Chance is as good as people say, he's worth it given the struggles this year, then it's hoping that one of the decent SS or CBs fall to the 2nd round.

    There is gonna be so many good corners in free agency I think that's when we'll make a move on a cb. I was happy when we lost Cortland but last season proved me wrong. We badly missed him. I'm reading that there is a strong chance that Falcons will be cutting Asante Samuel or Dunta Robinson, that Eagles may not be keeping Cromartie and Asomugha.

    There will be plenty of talent in free agency. It just depends if Bud Adams is willing to pay for it.

    I think Warmack would be a great pick but at the same time if we choose him and make no improvement it will look like a terrible decision using a top 10 pick on a guard and not taking a pass rusher or corner with elite potential.
    So I wonder if that will play on their minds when making the decision.


  • #55
    helimachoptor
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    The question is,'... Are guards elite?


  • #56
    helimachoptor
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    Also it seems the titans have made a big for Chris Canty..


  • #57
    mikemac1
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    Dohnny Jepp wrote: »
    There is gonna be so many good corners in free agency I think that's when we'll make a move on a cb. I was happy when we lost Cortland but last season proved me wrong. We badly missed him. I'm reading that there is a strong chance that Falcons will be cutting Asante Samuel or Dunta Robinson, that Eagles may not be keeping Cromartie and Asomugha.

    There will be plenty of talent in free agency. It just depends if Bud Adams is willing to pay for it.

    Cary Williams will be a FA

    Only reason I put this on the Titans thread is that he is a former Titan!

    Signed by Baltimore off the practice squad and has been a consistent starter the last three years

    Strong and physical corner, 6' 1", 190lbs, good in press coverage but not so good at all playing off his man. 4 INTs this season


  • #58
    helimachoptor
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    We'll take him mike!
    Presume he'll be cheap :pac:


  • #59
    HigginsJ
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    helimachoptor wrote: »
    Also it seems the titans have made a big for Chris Canty..

    Canty is an excellent interior pass-rusher but not very strong against the run.

    Was sad to see him leave but his salary wouldn't allow us to keep him. If he is back in full health he'll be of great benefit.


  • #60
    helimachoptor
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    HigginsJ wrote: »
    Canty is an excellent interior pass-rusher but not very strong against the run.

    Was sad to see him leave but his salary wouldn't allow us to keep him. If he is back in full health he'll be of great benefit.

    Agreed, I have faith in the LBs to do a decent job on the run stopping so happy to take a good pass rusher to complement the DEs in place already


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  • #61
    helimachoptor
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    Munch.... go get Woodson, he'll shore up the D for a year and give us the ability to to use a first on a CB/SS/FS next year


  • #62
    Heffo001
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    helimachoptor wrote: »
    If Chance is as good as people say, he's worth it given the struggles this year, then it's hoping that one of the decent SS or CBs fall to the 2nd round.

    People were saying the same things about DeCastro last year though and we had a shot at him with 20th pick but passed. I have a hard time believing that we'll draft a guard a full 10 picks earlier unless the Titans have a much higher grade on Warmack for some reason or they are desperate for help on the interior of the OL.

    I've seen both Elam and Reid fall out of the first round on a lot of mock drafts so I think there's a decent chance one will be available for the Titans in the 2nd round. There's also talk that Jonathan Cyprien could now be the second safety off the board after his Senior bowl performance.

    I think Robert Alford could be an intriguing prospect in the second round. A small school guy but he did well at the senior bowl and has very good measurables for the CB position.


  • #63
    Dohnny Jepp
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    Heffo001 wrote: »

    People were saying the same things about DeCastro last year though and we had a shot at him with 20th pick but passed. I have a hard time believing that we'll draft a guard a full 10 picks earlier unless the Titans have a much higher grade on Warmack for some reason or they are desperate for help on the interior of the OL.

    I've seen both Elam and Reid fall out of the first round on a lot of mock drafts so I think there's a decent chance one will be available for the Titans in the 2nd round. There's also talk that Jonathan Cyprien could now be the second safety off the board after his Senior bowl performance.

    I think Robert Alford could be an intriguing prospect in the second round. A small school guy but he did well at the senior bowl and has very good measurables for the CB position.

    Our interior is in very bad shape. If we can sort it out we should see massive improvements in our run and pass game. We need upgrades in many positions but of all positions sn upgrade at guard would provide the most benefit. I do wonder though if using our second pick on Cooper (I think his name is) would provide equal benefit as using our first on warmack.

    It looks like both reed and woodson will be hitting the fa market. Hopefully we can grab one of them and one of the cbs likely to hit the market. If we could sort out our secondary in fa and use our picks for our oline and dline, id be a very very happy man. Then like u said heli we can use next year's draft to find the long term solution for our secondary.


  • #64
    Heffo001
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    Dohnny Jepp wrote: »
    Our interior is in very bad shape. If we can sort it out we should see massive improvements in our run and pass game. We need upgrades in many positions but of all positions sn upgrade at guard would provide the most benefit. I do wonder though if using our second pick on Cooper (I think his name is) would provide equal benefit as using our first on warmack.

    It looks like both reed and woodson will be hitting the fa market. Hopefully we can grab one of them and one of the cbs likely to hit the market. If we could sort out our secondary in fa and use our picks for our oline and dline, id be a very very happy man. Then like u said heli we can use next year's draft to find the long term solution for our secondary.

    I agree with what you're saying, but the point that I was trying to make is that I'm not sure that the Titans as an organisation are willing to use a top 10 pick on a Guard. DeCastro was raved about as the best guard to be in the draft since Hutchinson and the Titans passed on him at 20 overall. Now maybe that's because they were really high on Wright, maybe they didn't have as high a grade on him as many others or maybe they regret not taking DeCastro and will rectify that by taking Warmack this year, but if I were to bet on it I'd say it's unlikely to happen.

    I think it's possible the Titans could trade down maybe 5 spots and still pick him up though if they wanted to try and go that way while picking up an extra pick or two to address additional needs with the depth in this years draft.


  • #65
    helimachoptor
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    Some chatter linking us with Avril, very good player but I think we'd end up massively over paying


  • #66
    Dohnny Jepp
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    helimachoptor wrote: »
    Some chatter linking us with Avril, very good player but I think we'd end up massively over paying

    I can't see Bud Adams over paying by too much... but we are in desperate need of a pass rusher. . .


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  • #67
    helimachoptor
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    Me neither, it will depend on what power Munch has, he knows if its a bad season he's gone, I think he'd like to sign up but Adams will know if it fails he'll be left with Avril on another 2 years with massive salary cap implications.

    I dont think we'll sign him..


  • #68
    helimachoptor
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    Wilson signs...
    http://www.musiccitymiracles.com/2013/2/22/4017816/nfl-free-agency-2013-tennessee-titans-sign-george-wilson


  • #69
    Dohnny Jepp
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    helimachoptor wrote: »
    Wilson signs...
    http://www.musiccitymiracles.com/2013/2/22/4017816/nfl-free-agency-2013-tennessee-titans-sign-george-wilson

    Thats a good signing but even more important its an indication we are gonna be a busy team in the FA market!


  • #70
    HigginsJ
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    helimachoptor wrote: »
    Wilson signs...
    http://www.musiccitymiracles.com/2013/2/22/4017816/nfl-free-agency-2013-tennessee-titans-sign-george-wilson

    2 year $4million dollar contract. Bit of a bargain really


  • #71
    helimachoptor
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    Yeah it is a bargain and it means with Wilson and Babineaux we have a good started with depth, it gives us the potential to pick up a project SS this year if needed or go all in with the 2nd pick with Elam or one of the top rated safeties and have cover across the Safety position


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  • #72
    HigginsJ
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    helimachoptor wrote: »
    Yeah it is a bargain and it means with Wilson and Babineaux we have a good started with depth, it gives us the potential to pick up a project SS this year if needed or go all in with the 2nd pick with Elam or one of the top rated safeties and have cover across the Safety position

    Yea I'd look to use a mid-round pick on someone like Bacarri Rambo or Robert Lester


  • #73
    helimachoptor
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    HigginsJ wrote: »
    Yea I'd look to use a mid-round pick on someone like Bacarri Rambo or Robert Lester

    Frankly i'd take Baccari just for his surname :pac:

    But Wilson, buys us time and it means if needed next year if there was a clear cut top SS/FS he could be taken with the first if needed


  • #74
    HigginsJ
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    helimachoptor wrote: »
    Frankly i'd take Baccari just for his surname :pac:

    :D


  • #75
    Lionbacker
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    helimachoptor wrote: »
    Wilson signs...
    http://www.musiccitymiracles.com/2013/2/22/4017816/nfl-free-agency-2013-tennessee-titans-sign-george-wilson

    Damn, was hoping the Lions (who were the only other team trying to sign him) would get him. The Safety position there is a complete disaster. Need to look elsewhere now.


    As for Avril, he is looking for big money. He refused a 3 year $30 million deal last year & decided to play on the franchise tag. The Lions don't have enough cap space to keep him this time around, so I'd imagine he'll be looking for deal a little bit better than what he was offered last season, when free agency arrives.
    He has an over inflated opinion of himself if you ask me. Not really worth the money he's looking for.


  • #76
    helimachoptor
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    agree Lionbacker, he should have taken a deal last year, stats wise he regressed in 2012, but he will still command a premium.

    Would love him in Tenn, but not at the price he wants


  • #77
    Dohnny Jepp
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    I've been impressed by Tyler Bray. I really hope we take a chance on him in the 3rd or 4th but I think he may have played his way into the bottom of the second with his combine.


  • #78
    helimachoptor
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    Yeah he is a big QB, tbh i wouldnt be adverse to taking him at all, but i would really hope that what would happen is that Locker would kick on and enable us to take on a developmental QB who is going to see some snaps in games completely lost/won.

    Locker is going to need some serious game time in pre-season i think


  • #79
    Dohnny Jepp
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    Is revis an option for us in free agency do you think. Unlike SF we don't have all that much that we can give. As it is with a one year contract I wouldnt be willing to give much anyway.


  • #80
    helimachoptor
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    We'd have to give up picks and not epic ones given yhe jets cap position, for a year id do it, we could afford him long term I think


  • #81
    helimachoptor
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    Dunta and Turner worth a punt?

    Turner would definitely add some muscle to the RB position while Robinson would probably push Verner for the starting spot


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  • #82
    Dohnny Jepp
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    helimachoptor wrote: »
    Dunta and Turner worth a punt?

    Turner would definitely add some muscle to the RB position while Robinson would probably push Verner for the starting spot

    I'd be interested in us picking up Dunta and Abraham. The only issue is they will both wanna be paid like superstars and Dunta is solid but not great and Abraham isn't gonna be an every down player.

    They'd both still be a massive upgrade for us though.


  • #83
    helimachoptor
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    Some rumours going around some Titans fan sites about a big for Turner and a cheap one at that.

    Would be more than happy to get it him for a season or 2


  • #84
    Dohnny Jepp
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    helimachoptor wrote: »
    Some rumours going around some Titans fan sites about a big for Turner and a cheap one at that.

    Would be more than happy to get it him for a season or 2

    I would rather us use our cap space in other areas. . .


  • #85
    helimachoptor
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    Dohnny i do see what youre saying, however we also need a better RB, Turner is on the cheap it seems and if so then we should take him he would defintely ease the pressure on Locker and would stop offenses knowing that its C2J all the time


  • #86
    Phoenix Park
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    In case you Titans guys are interested CJ2K is the main interview in the most recent Dave Dameshek podcast (dated 28th Feb). Gives a decent interview, says O-Line absolute priority this off-season.


  • #87
    helimachoptor
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    Yeah have listened to it and he's 100% right.
    Needs to block better for him but also protect Locker, he got hammered in each game he played in.

    Titans havent tagged Cookie yet...


  • #88
    HigginsJ
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    helimachoptor wrote: »
    Yeah have listened to it and he's 100% right.
    Needs to block better for him but also protect Locker, he got hammered in each game he played in.

    Titans havent tagged Cookie yet...

    He'll surely get tagged.

    Saw this on NFL.com

    » Jared Cook, Tennessee Titans tight end: Cook's agent is going to argue that Cook should be paid the wide receiver franchise tag.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000146745/article/deadline-day-tracking-franchise-tags


  • #89
    helimachoptor
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    Him wanting the WR tag has been going around for a few days.

    Have been conversations today, but he seems talks on a long term deal stalled so they Titans will tag him as a TE.

    However if he pushes and wins a case on as a WR he gets an extra 4 million


  • #90
    helimachoptor
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    Just been confirmed that Cook will not be tagged :eek:


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  • #91
    HigginsJ
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    helimachoptor wrote: »
    Just been confirmed that Cook will not be tagged :eek:

    Wow odd decision when you consider your not strapped for cap space.


  • #92
    helimachoptor
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    Very odd, i mean even if he costs the WR tag we have a fair amount of space. Tag him for the year and if things dont improve then let him go or you may get a great year from him and then pay him a long term deal.

    Not very happy about it, it remains to be seen if he's definitely not tagged who offers him what


  • #93
    Dohnny Jepp
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    Its so strange, so often I'm left dumbfounded by the Titans front office.


  • #94
    helimachoptor
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    Some rumours of Abraham/Titans conversations on-going.

    Not sure on this one, a 1 year cheap deal would be ok, but we still need to draft a DE or even pick a younger model up in FA


  • #95
    Dohnny Jepp
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    helimachoptor wrote: »
    Some rumours of Abraham/Titans conversations on-going.

    Not sure on this one, a 1 year cheap deal would be ok, but we still need to draft a DE or even pick a younger model up in FA
    I would actually prefer Abraham over avril and kruger. Id rather us not over pay for average players


  • #96
    Dohnny Jepp
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    Dohnny Jepp wrote: »
    I would actually prefer Abraham over avril and kruger. Id rather us not over pay for average players
    I know we have too many holes to consider it but if Boldin gets released id love for us to sign him. Don't care what age he is


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  • #97
    helimachoptor
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    Boldin would cost is a fortune I'd imagine


  • #98
    helimachoptor
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    Some links with Osi being leaked, however i dont think he'll be interested though i am a big fan of his


  • #99
    Dohnny Jepp
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    helimachoptor wrote: »
    Some links with Osi being leaked, however i dont think he'll be interested though i am a big fan of his

    Like all players, if the money is right he'll be interested.

    Have you thought any more on how we should use our draft picks heli?

    Warmack is the safe option and more than anything I dont want us to waste our pick.

    Take warmack, sign vas back up and give a locker a chance to show us if his talent can match his character and drive and bravery.


  • #100
    helimachoptor
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    Yep, Warmack at 1

    at 2 I'm thinking a DE (will depend on whos left) but I see this as complementing Wimbley, Morgan and another FA DE, get him young and give him some snaps behind 2 experienced guys.

    at 3 a bruising HB (depends on if there are any FA pick ups) I think at this point there should be some decent guys left.

    at 4 Baccari Rambo (purely on name!) but he seems flexible to sit in behind either Safety spot and push on from there.

    I'm assuming we are going to pick up a TE in FA, but we could do well picking up a TE and a WR tbh


  • #101
    Heffo001
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    Still struggling to see us taking Warmack at 10. You may well be right though.


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