Harrys Future

Hatch99 · 20-05-2012 6:57pm

BERBA wrote: »

agree 100% with above hatch , how do ya feel with your 4th now harry eh?

last night was a defining moment for our club. Gutted.

Villa - parker for vdv said it all ....

Exactly. The same guy who told us we would challenge for the title, then decided it was the target to finish 3rd, then says it's great to finish 4th, and then say's we should be happy finishing above Liverpool and Chelsea, what land is he living in.

It's not just the parker for vdv change, although it's a good example, there are several examples. His handling of situations such as Bent, Keane, Lennon, VDV, Dos Santos etc etc has been awful. And his constant media talk, about himself during the England phase, the Modric issues and so on. He is not for us.

Ares · 20-05-2012 8:22pm

Why did all the stuff posted last night get deleted?

And why are the posts stating that Liverpool got preferential treatment still allowed up?

What's that all about?

Pacing Mule · 20-05-2012 8:48pm

Ares wrote: »

Why did all the stuff posted last night get deleted?

And why are the posts stating that Liverpool got preferential treatment still allowed up?

What's that all about?

I'd imagine it was to do with the fact that it had feck all to do with Harrys Future but a note to that effect wouldn't have gone astray.

I edited my post earlier to hopefully stop the same debate happening again.

flyswatter · 20-05-2012 8:58pm

Pageant Messiah wrote: »

I'd imagine it was to do with the fact that it had feck all to do with Harrys Future but a note to that effect wouldn't have gone astray.

I edited my post earlier to hopefully stop the same debate happening again.

Yeah, sorry for dragging it off topic, just didn't want to start a new thread.

bradolf pittler · 20-05-2012 8:59pm

Harry will be given 1 more year to get us back into the CL,unfortunatly he will fail because our direct rivals are going to throw money in their squads leaving us only in the market for 2nd tier players.
It's fair to say that last nights result has knocked us back at least 5 years,maybe even more.And until we move into the new stadium and start paying the stellar wages the top players command we will find ourselves between 5th and 8th for the forseeable future.

Hatch99 · 20-05-2012 9:04pm

Ares wrote: »

Why did all the stuff posted last night get deleted?

And why are the posts stating that Liverpool got preferential treatment still allowed up?

What's that all about?

Because most of it had fcuk all to do with the thread.
I didn't have time to delete them all, so just deleted what I saw in a short period. No offence intended by not deleting certain ones.

Ares · 20-05-2012 10:51pm

Hatch99 wrote: »

Because most of it had fcuk all to do with the thread.
I didn't have time to delete them all, so just deleted what I saw in a short period. No offence intended by not deleting certain ones.

Grand. Maybe put up my post again where it shows that Liverpool did not take anyone's spots.

Right now the thread has the posts that claim Pool took someone's spot, which as demonstrated, is wrong. Delete this away when you've read it.

mickman · 21-05-2012 8:28am

bradolf pittler wrote: »

Harry will be given 1 more year to get us back into the CL,unfortunatly he will fail because our direct rivals are going to throw money in their squads leaving us only in the market for 2nd tier players.
It's fair to say that last nights result has knocked us back at least 5 years,maybe even more.And until we move into the new stadium and start paying the stellar wages the top players command we will find ourselves between 5th and 8th for the forseeable future.

what direct rivals are going to do that ? Arsenal will lose van persie and wont re-invest the money. They wont spend big during the summer, either will liverpool or newcastle. Even if the pool do spend big then it wont be big enough.

Arsenal will be a poorer team without rvp , thats for sure.

Next season is an opportunity for us to get back in champs league and win the europa league

Ormus · 21-05-2012 10:44am

Hatch99 wrote: »

Harry Redknapp, not fit to manage our great football club, close the door on your way out.

I know this is gonna start a long argument but I have to disagree. We are Spurs. We don't have a divine right to a great manager. Harry is far from perfect but he is the best manager we have had in about 20 years. The chairman knows that, the players know that, and I think the majority of the fans know that.

Bayern beating Chelsea cannot possibly make him less fit to manage our club, that is irrational.

Sugarlumps · 21-05-2012 10:45am

Ormus wrote: »

I know this is gonna start a long argument but I have to disagree. We are Spurs. We don't have a divine right to a great manager. Harry is far from perfect but he is the best manager we have had in about 20 years. The chairman knows that, the players know that, and I think the majority of the fans know that.

Bayern beating Chelsea cannot possibly make him less fit to manage our club, that is irrational.

+1

Ormus · 21-05-2012 10:47am

BERBA wrote: »

agree 100% with above hatch , how do ya feel with your 4th now harry eh?

last night was a defining moment for our club. Gutted.

Villa - parker for vdv said it all ....

VdV tends to stop running after about 75 mins.

We were playing with 10 men. When VdV ran out of steam we were pretty much down to 9.

bradolf pittler · 21-05-2012 10:48am

mickman wrote: »

what direct rivals are going to do that ? Arsenal will lose van persie and wont re-invest the money. They wont spend big during the summer, either will liverpool or newcastle. Even if the pool do spend big then it wont be big enough.

Arsenal will be a poorer team without rvp , thats for sure.

Next season is an opportunity for us to get back in champs league and win the europa league[/Q

next season city,utd and chelsea are going to be the top 3 so we can forget about them....our direct rivals are arsenal,liverpool,newcastle and maybe even everton if they start playing before xmas.that leaves 5 teams going for the last CL spot.if arsenal lose rvp of course they are going to re-invest,they have to.liverpool will have a new manager and that means new ideas and new players and they will never be as bad as they were this season.newcastles scouts have uncovered some fine players this season,who's to say they wont uncover a gem or 2 next season?and everton are just 1 or 2 signings away from becoming a real force again.
what do we have?a manager who lost the plot halfway tru what should have been our greatest season,our best players seemingly want to leave(and i dont blame them),a demoralised squad who expected CL but now face (depending on the draw)long away trips to eastern europe in crap stadiums on thursday nights and a chairman who had his chance in the last 3 transfer windows to bring in some real quality to ensure our place in the CL for seasons to come but brought in stop gap solutions(saha,nelson etc).
im sorry but the future of spurs looks very bleak for me right now.

Ormus · 21-05-2012 10:54am

Hatch99 wrote: »

Exactly. The same guy who told us we would challenge for the title, then decided it was the target to finish 3rd, then says it's great to finish 4th, and then say's we should be happy finishing above Liverpool and Chelsea, what land is he living in.

It's not just the parker for vdv change, although it's a good example, there are several examples. His handling of situations such as Bent, Keane, Lennon, VDV, Dos Santos etc etc has been awful. And his constant media talk, about himself during the England phase, the Modric issues and so on. He is not for us.

When we won 11 games out of 12 or whatever before Christmas, he said that if we kept up this form we would be right up there for the title. He was stating a mathematical fact when you think about it.

He is a manager of a football club, of course he has a tendency to try to highlight the positives when things go bad. Very few managers don't. He was probably trying to convince himself as much as anyone.

I think he's handled Bent, Keane, VdV and Dos Santos pretty well. I wish he would never leave Lennon out, but maybe he has concerns over his hamstrings.

He is a media whore, a chatterbox, a very open guy who loves to talk. It's annoying sometimes and amusing sometimes. I wish Levy would talk to him about it.

Ormus · 21-05-2012 11:05am

bradolf pittler wrote: »

mickman wrote: »

next season city,utd and chelsea are going to be the top 3 so we can forget about them....our direct rivals are arsenal,liverpool,newcastle and maybe even everton if they start playing before xmas.that leaves 5 teams going for the last CL spot.if arsenal lose rvp of course they are going to re-invest,they have to.liverpool will have a new manager and that means new ideas and new players and they will never be as bad as they were this season.newcastles scouts have uncovered some fine players this season,who's to say they wont uncover a gem or 2 next season?and everton are just 1 or 2 signings away from becoming a real force again.
what do we have?a manager who lost the plot halfway tru what should have been our greatest season,our best players seemingly want to leave(and i dont blame them),a demoralised squad who expected CL but now face (depending on the draw)long away trips to eastern europe in crap stadiums on thursday nights and a chairman who had his chance in the last 3 transfer windows to bring in some real quality to ensure our place in the CL for seasons to come but brought in stop gap solutions(saha,nelson etc).
im sorry but the future of spurs looks very bleak for me right now.

I'm not so sure Chelsea will be top 3 next season. I'm not sure Di Matteo is strong enough to lead them in the Premiership.

Arsenal will find it very hard if they lose RvP. Much harder than we would find it to lose Luka.

Pool will be better, but they were awful this season.

Everton and Newcastle, who knows. They are a threat but I would give us a fighting chance of finishing ahead of both.

Redknapp did not lose the plot, that was a convenient paper story. The team went through a lull in form and it cost us big time. To claim that their heads were turned because of speculation in the papers. Come on. Think about it.

I can never understand people suggesting that Levy somehow bottled it by not spending more. He has shown himself to be a superb business man. Why would fans who know next to nothing about the clubs finances think that they know better than him as to how to spend the clubs money?

golfball37 · 21-05-2012 11:14am

Why would Levy have needed to spend more in January when we were 2 points off the top of the table and 10 clear of 4th?

After the Newcastle game we all thought Saha was a bargain. There's no excuses for not finishing 3rd, lets hope we learn from it and quick. It took 4 years to get over bottling it against West ham, we don't have 4 years to spare anymore so they need to get on with it.

Hatch99 · 21-05-2012 11:39am

Ormus wrote: »

I know this is gonna start a long argument but I have to disagree. We are Spurs. We don't have a divine right to a great manager. Harry is far from perfect but he is the best manager we have had in about 20 years. The chairman knows that, the players know that, and I think the majority of the fans know that.

Bayern beating Chelsea cannot possibly make him less fit to manage our club, that is irrational.

Regarding your first statement, I agree, sure nobody is entitled to a great manager.

But as for the rest....I could be here all day mate. I suppose at the end of the day we are all entitled to our opinions, and I have no problem with that, that's what this place is all about.

But in my opinion, I want rid. I don't like the man. As I have said several times, I have no problem praising him to a certain extent for what he has done. But he failed us this season when it mattered. At such a crucial time and at a crucial stage in our history, we failed, and the buck stops with him.
Not only do his football decisions baffle me, but the way he has treated some of the players, fans and the club in general at times has disgusted me. I don't want a man like that in charge of the club I love and always will love.

bradolf pittler · 21-05-2012 11:42am

Ormus wrote: »

bradolf pittler wrote: »

I'm not so sure Chelsea will be top 3 next season. I'm not sure Di Matteo is strong enough to lead them in the Premiership.

Arsenal will find it very hard if they lose RvP. Much harder than we would find it to lose Luka.

Pool will be better, but they were awful this season.

Everton and Newcastle, who knows. They are a threat but I would give us a fighting chance of finishing ahead of both.

Redknapp did not lose the plot, that was a convenient paper story. The team went through a lull in form and it cost us big time. To claim that their heads were turned because of speculation in the papers. Come on. Think about it.

I can never understand people suggesting that Levy somehow bottled it by not spending more. He has shown himself to be a superb business man. Why would fans who know next to nothing about the clubs finances think that they know better than him as to how to spend the clubs money?

i have thought about it and i dont think its a coincidence that we got back to winning ways when hodgson was appointed,the insecurity surrounding the whole england job/court case really hurt us,tactics seemed to go out the window,4-4-2 one week 4-4-1-1 the other and bale given license to roam was a big mistake too,harry lost the plot,2-0 at arsenal-2-2 at half time and he said he knew we were going to lose!!!wtf kinda manager says that??????the seeds of doubt were planted after that game and they grew and grew untill we finally got our act together and fell over the line into 4th,it wont be so easy next season.
the 1st thing gary cahill will see when he wakes up this morning is his CL winners medal,we had a chance to sign him in jan,christ we had a chance to sign almost any player we wanted in jan.that was the time to invest...send a message of intent.we had money to spend,the sales of crouch,palacios,pav and hutton brought in around 30 million of which only 5 million was spent on parker who litterally fell into our laps because wenger baulked in signing him because of his age,do you really think that adebayor and gallas we looking over their shoulders for a 1st team place when saha and nelson were signed?we really missed the boat this season in more ways than 1

Ormus · 21-05-2012 11:54am

Hatch99 wrote: »

Regarding your first statement, I agree, sure nobody is entitled to a great manager.

But as for the rest....I could be here all day mate. I suppose at the end of the day we are all entitled to our opinions, and I have no problem with that, that's what this place is all about.

But in my opinion, I want rid. I don't like the man. As I have said several times, I have no problem praising him to a certain extent for what he has done. But he failed us this season when it mattered. At such a crucial time and at a crucial stage in our history, we failed, and the buck stops with him.
Not only do his football decisions baffle me, but the way he has treated some of the players, fans and the club in general at times has disgusted me. I don't want a man like that in charge of the club I love and always will love.

Ok, fair enough, your opinion is your opinion. I think its the most natural thing in the world to want rid of the manager. I wanted rid of Ardiles, Gross, Santini, Ramos etc.

But sooner or later we need to get a long term manager. Redknapp is mainly liked by players, fans and chairman and has done very well with the club (in my opinion). I find him annoying at times, but I think he is a decent guy and a decent manager.

I think there is a better than 50/50 chance that fans will be calling for the head of the new manager by May 2013, and the vicious circle will continue for the next 50 years.

Ormus · 21-05-2012 12:03pm

bradolf pittler wrote: »

Ormus wrote: »

i have thought about it and i dont think its a coincidence that we got back to winning ways when hodgson was appointed,the insecurity surrounding the whole england job/court case really hurt us,tactics seemed to go out the window,4-4-2 one week 4-4-1-1 the other and bale given license to roam was a big mistake too,harry lost the plot,2-0 at arsenal-2-2 at half time and he said he knew we were going to lose!!!wtf kinda manager says that??????the seeds of doubt were planted after that game and they grew and grew untill we finally got our act together and fell over the line into 4th,it wont be so easy next season.
the 1st thing gary cahill will see when he wakes up this morning is his CL winners medal,we had a chance to sign him in jan,christ we had a chance to sign almost any player we wanted in jan.that was the time to invest...send a message of intent.we had money to spend,the sales of crouch,palacios,pav and hutton brought in around 30 million of which only 5 million was spent on parker who litterally fell into our laps because wenger baulked in signing him because of his age,do you really think that adebayor and gallas we looking over their shoulders for a 1st team place when saha and nelson were signed?we really missed the boat this season in more ways than 1

Insecurity my ar$e, these are grown men, they are Premiership footballers, managerial changes are a fact of life. We beat Newcastle 5-0 in our first game after Capello resigned. The players lost the plot at 2-0 at Arsenal. They eased off and Arsenal ran rings around them.

January is not the time to invest. Gary Cahill is a decent player but Chelsea made him a better offer. I think Kaboul is just as good as him.

If anyone can show me a quote on Boards from the day after the Newcastle game where they say anything about us messing up in the transfer window, player unrest about 'Arry etc, then I will hold up my hands. Otherwise you have to accept that you are only making the facts fit with the hindsight. Levy and Redknapp may be paid a lotta money but they have the same inability to tell the future as you and I.

bradolf pittler · 21-05-2012 12:36pm

Ormus wrote: »

bradolf pittler wrote: »

Insecurity my ar$e, these are grown men, they are Premiership footballers, managerial changes are a fact of life. We beat Newcastle 5-0 in our first game after Capello resigned. The players lost the plot at 2-0 at Arsenal. They eased off and Arsenal ran rings around them.

January is not the time to invest. Gary Cahill is a decent player but Chelsea made him a better offer. I think Kaboul is just as good as him.

If anyone can show me a quote on Boards from the day after the Newcastle game where they say anything about us messing up in the transfer window, player unrest about 'Arry etc, then I will hold up my hands. Otherwise you have to accept that you are only making the facts fit with the hindsight. Levy and Redknapp may be paid a lotta money but they have the same inability to tell the future as you and I.

redknapp is supposed to have a good relationship with most of the players,is it beyond the realm of belief that the better players in the squad were seeing what was happening and saying to themselves "well if he's off then i'm off too"?stability is key to success and we were in a very unstable position from feb to april.
of course hindsight has 20/20 vision but i'd rather have a manager and chairman with the foresight to see when and where to invest properly.having a 20+million transfer kitty is all well and good when you look at the end of season accounts but its also like joining an expensive gym...its only going to do some good if you actually use the bloody thing:rolleyes:

Ormus · 21-05-2012 12:46pm

bradolf pittler wrote: »

Ormus wrote: »

redknapp is supposed to have a good relationship with most of the players,is it beyond the realm of belief that the better players in the squad were seeing what was happening and saying to themselves "well if he's off then i'm off too"?stability is key to success and we were in a very unstable position from feb to april.
of course hindsight has 20/20 vision but i'd rather have a manager and chairman with the foresight to see when and where to invest properly.having a 20+million transfer kitty is all well and good when you look at the end of season accounts but its also like joining an expensive gym...its only going to do some good if you actually use the bloody thing:rolleyes:

I think its very likely that those thoughts crossed their minds, but I don't think it affected their ability to concentrate for 90 mins.

I guess our stability was affected but I think we lost those games cos we were jaded. And also because we were not good enough to sustain a title challenge.

It would be great to have a manager and chairman who had the foresight to know when to invest and who to invest in. That would be actually amazing. Personally I think investment in January is usually a sign of panic. I think Gary Cahill was way overpriced, albeit a decent player.

Hatch99 · 21-05-2012 1:24pm

Ormus wrote: »

Redknapp is mainly liked by players, fans and chairman and has done very well with the club (in my opinion).

I'd think you'd be surprised to see how many fans don't like him mate.

Ormus · 21-05-2012 2:08pm

Hatch99 wrote: »

I'd think you'd be surprised to see how many fans don't like him mate.

He was treated like a god by the White Hart Lane faithful when I was there recently. Too much in my opinion. It was OTT.

Playboy · 21-05-2012 2:32pm

Ormus wrote: »

Hatch99 wrote: »

I'd think you'd be surprised to see how many fans don't like him mate.

He was treated like a god by the White Hart Lane faithful when I was there recently. Too much in my opinion. It was OTT.

And how recent was that. Things have changed a lot since our slump. Early in the season it was all good when we were right up there in the title race and we were singing songs hoping he would turn down England and pays tax when he wants to etc. towards the end of the season I didn't see any of that love!

Hatch99 · 21-05-2012 2:40pm

Ormus wrote: »

He was treated like a god by the White Hart Lane faithful when I was there recently. Too much in my opinion. It was OTT.

Your right, he was, wigan and Newc games in particular, but I think people (myself included sometimes) get caught up in the moment when your at games.

golfball37 · 21-05-2012 2:47pm

He could end up as Chelsea manager yet. I certainly wouldn't rule it out.

philon · 21-05-2012 7:33pm

Hatch99 wrote: »

Harry Redknapp, not fit to manage our great football club, close the door on your way out.

....Now your sounding like your Old Man

I'll give you a shout thurs/fri for that program ?

Hatch99 · 21-05-2012 9:36pm

philon wrote: »

....Now your sounding like your Old Man

I'll give you a shout thurs/fri for that program ?

yeah sound have it here for you, I'll drop it down anytime.

keane=cock · 22-05-2012 9:33pm

heard from a reliable liverpool source that harrys name is in the frame for the liverpool job

Crann na Beatha · 24-05-2012 11:55am

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2nd Row Donkey · 24-05-2012 2:37pm

Couldnt see it myself either. Or HR to liverpool for that matter.

If it was Utd or Citeh then that might be a different story but cant see HR leaving for any other PL team ...

Saab Ed · 30-05-2012 10:42pm

Hmmmmm!!!

So a buddy of mine tells me that Arry will be going before the weekend. Anyone else hear this ?

Leinstersqspur · 30-05-2012 11:34pm

Rumours a plenty, new contract not on offer... AVB?

BERBA · 30-05-2012 11:43pm

I'm getting excited ! i'd love if levy game 'arry the heave ho.....

tippspur · 30-05-2012 11:53pm

Leinstersqspur wrote: »

Rumours a plenty, new contract not on offer... AVB?

Why would we get someone who failed miserably at Chelsea?

flyswatter · 30-05-2012 11:55pm

Leinstersqspur wrote: »

Rumours a plenty, new contract not on offer... AVB?

He was the first name you had in mind?

Ormus · 31-05-2012 12:32am

Leinstersqspur wrote: »

Rumours a plenty, new contract not on offer... AVB?

Big Eck?

2nd Row Donkey · 31-05-2012 9:46am

Hope this is all rumour bollox. Better the Devil you know and all that. Unless Levy has Pep lined up!

... I wonder if Levy has blamed HR for us not finishing 3rd. At the end of the day it was caused by 2 things - England job talk effecting the players and tired players. Who else is accoutantable for that if not Harry! Oh dear.

Hatch99 · 31-05-2012 11:07am

Harry very quiet the last couple of weeks, very strange...

pleasant Co. · 31-05-2012 11:07am

but, Harry's gonna be england manager you know

Ares · 31-05-2012 3:49pm

Rafa Benitez would be an outstanding appointment for Spurs.

Qualified for the top 4 every season he was in England bar the last one which is exactly what ye need.

Twice La Liga winning manager, Champions League, Fa Cup, etc.

When given money to spend spent well,

Torres, Mascherano, Agger, Skrtel, Johnson, Lucas, Xabi Alonso, Reina.

Tactically brilliant, which is an area where Spurs have had issues thanks to Harry's rather cavalier attitude towards football.

All in all he'd be a great appointment for Spurs.

Hatch99 · 31-05-2012 4:00pm

Ares wrote: »

Rafa Benitez would be an outstanding appointment for Spurs.

Qualified for the top 4 every season he was in England bar the last one which is exactly what ye need.

Twice La Liga winning manager, Champions League, Fa Cup, etc.

When given money to spend spent well,

Torres, Mascherano, Agger, Skrtel, Johnson, Lucas, Xabi Alonso, Reina.

Tactically brilliant, which is an area where Spurs have had issues thanks to Harry's rather cavalier attitude towards football.

All in all he'd be a great appointment for Spurs.

I love the way you mention the good ones only, he bought plenty of duds as liverpool fans will tell you during his time there.

Ares · 31-05-2012 4:20pm

He did, but when he spent large it was well spent with the exception of Aquilani. I'm not counting Keane it wasn't his purchase.

His duds mainy consist of players bought between the £4 to £10 million bracket.

Morientes, Crouch, Sissoko, Babel, Pennant, Dossena, Riera.

Crouch and Sissoko sold for considerable profit while the other sold while still resaleable.

He'd be a great appointment for Spurs. Who else of his pedigree would be attainable for Spurs this summer?

Emoran · 31-05-2012 6:48pm

Ares wrote: »

Rafa Benitez would be an outstanding appointment for Spurs.

Qualified for the top 4 every season he was in England bar the last one which is exactly what ye need.

Twice La Liga winning manager, Champions League, Fa Cup, etc.

When given money to spend spent well,

Torres, Mascherano, Agger, Skrtel, Johnson, Lucas, Xabi Alonso, Reina.

Tactically brilliant, which is an area where Spurs have had issues thanks to Harry's rather cavalier attitude towards football.

All in all he'd be a great appointment for Spurs.

Johnson and Lucas are poison to football and I wouldn't want them near my team. Don't think I've seen Lucas do one bit of nice football EVER. Sideways passes or behind him is all he is capable for.

Johnson isn't fit to tie walkers boots so if Rafa wants to sign players like them I don't want him anywhere near our club!

To be honest the only 3 I'd take out of your choices are Torres alonso and Reina

Big Pussy Bonpensiero · 31-05-2012 6:52pm

Benitez missed out on top 4 twice, although the first time it was somewhat made up for by winning the CL.

Ares · 31-05-2012 8:44pm

Emoran wrote: »

Johnson and Lucas are poison to football and I wouldn't want them near my team. Don't think I've seen Lucas do one bit of nice football EVER. Sideways passes or behind him is all he is capable for.

Johnson isn't fit to tie walkers boots so if Rafa wants to sign players like them I don't want him anywhere near our club!

To be honest the only 3 I'd take out of your choices are Torres alonso and Reina

You clearly don't watch very much football so do you? Lucas would walk onto the Spurs team.

Are you saying you wouldn't take Mascherano. Really? Or Agger? Skrtel even?

If Rafa went to Spurs, with Levy's fiscal management and Rafa's ability as a manager I'd expect Spurs to challenge for the league regularly, something that's only a pipe dream as long as Harry stays in charge.

There are few current managers of Rafa's calibre currently on the market.

THFC wrote: »

Benitez missed out on top 4 twice, although the first time it was somewhat made up for by winning the CL.

Granted. I meant to say qualified for the Champions League every year.

The league form that year would haven't been full on due to the Carling cup and Champions League runs that season.

Ormus · 31-05-2012 10:06pm

Ares wrote: »

You clearly don't watch very much football so do you? Lucas would walk onto the Spurs team.

Are you saying you wouldn't take Mascherano. Really? Or Agger? Skrtel even?

If Rafa went to Spurs, with Levy's fiscal management and Rafa's ability as a manager I'd expect Spurs to challenge for the league regularly, something that's only a pipe dream as long as Harry stays in charge.

There are few current managers of Rafa's calibre currently on the market.

Granted. I meant to say qualified for the Champions League every year.

The league form that year would haven't been full on due to the Carling cup and Champions League runs that season.

Lucas is a tidy effective player, has improved a lot in the last 3 seasons, but I wouldn't have him in the Spurs midfield at the moment. Good sub though.

flyswatter · 31-05-2012 11:08pm

Ormus wrote: »

Lucas is a tidy effective player, has improved a lot in the last 3 seasons, but I wouldn't have him in the Spurs midfield at the moment. Good sub though.

Me either, we have Sandro and Parker who are both much better.

Sugarlumps · 01-06-2012 8:06am

Ormus wrote: »

Lucas is a tidy effective player, has improved a lot in the last 3 seasons, but I wouldn't have him in the Spurs midfield at the moment. Good sub though.

+1

G.K. · 01-06-2012 10:35am

Lucas is the best DM in the EPL.

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