Great disasters in Irish history

cml387 · 15-11-2010 8:37pm #1

I know many of you After Hours people may be unaware, but we are on the brink of a National Calamity the likes of which we have never seen before.

However, since we seem to have a habit of this, what other disasters have befallen us over the years to which this moment could be compared?

The defeat at the battle of the Boyne?
The defeat at the battle of Kinsale?
The Act of Union?
Schillaci's goal for Italy in the 1990 world cup final?
Sending Dustin to the Eurovision song contest?
The moment when the words "It's a girl,Mrs. Harney " were spoken?

alwaysadub · 15-11-2010 8:38pm

The Famine probably wasn't a barrel of laughs..

Mr Benevolent · 15-11-2010 8:39pm

The day Biffo and Lenny called in the EFSF.

foxinsox · 15-11-2010 8:41pm

There are a few listed on here :

http://www.irishhistorylinks.net/Irish_History_Timeline.html

Mrmoe · 15-11-2010 8:42pm

cml387 wrote: »

The moment when the words "It's a girl,Mrs. Harney " were spoken?

So that's why she has lost so much weight recently, I would have expected quintuplets though.

Paparazzo · 15-11-2010 8:43pm

Us getting independent. The English leaving.

Mr Benevolent · 15-11-2010 8:43pm

foxinsox wrote: »

There are a few listed on here :

http://www.irishhistorylinks.net/Irish_History_Timeline.html

Hah, we're basically a bunch of trigger happy moronic cowards. The Irish are the new French.

Ali Babba · 15-11-2010 8:44pm

I'd say the currant Anglo/Fianna Fail disaster is probably going to be the worst thing to happen Ireland, mainly because of the bad decisions and constant lies by Fianna Fail, we'll be as bad or worse than eastern block Europe within three to five years. If you've got cash buy gold because this mess could actually bring down the Euro and pretty quickly too by all accounts.

PeterIanStaker · 15-11-2010 8:45pm

Fianna Fail, Catholicism and the current pile of sh!te the esteemed leaders of this vatican raped backwater dived into face first.

policarp · 15-11-2010 8:45pm

Cromwell certainly left his mark...

Nolanger · 15-11-2010 8:47pm

RTE scrapping the Riordans back in 1978.

Ruu_Old · 15-11-2010 8:47pm

Biddy in Glenroe. ;_;

Nodin · 15-11-2010 8:47pm

cml387 wrote: »

I know many of you After Hours people may be unaware, but we are on the brink of a National Calamity the likes of which we have never seen before.

Amanda Brunker being judge on the all ireland talent show? Its more the ultimate contradiction than a real disaster....though yes, its a disaster....

Rebelheart · 15-11-2010 8:53pm

Paparazzo wrote: »

Us getting independent. The English leaving.

Oh fúck. There's always one.

AckwelFoley · 15-11-2010 8:55pm

cml387 wrote: »

The defeat at the battle of the Boyne?
?

Defeat?

The prods won.

That was only a 50% disaster

Nodin · 15-11-2010 8:56pm

Rebelheart wrote: »

Oh fúck. There's always one.

With therapy , they could learn to enjoy the non-judgmental attention one receives from a pet.

Donkey Oaty · 15-11-2010 8:57pm

Nolanger wrote: »

RTE scrapping the Riordans back in 1978.

A truly world-class drama.

Rebelheart · 15-11-2010 8:59pm

cml387 wrote: »

I know many of you After Hours people may be unaware, but we are on the brink of a National Calamity the likes of which we have never seen before.

However, since we seem to have a habit of this, what other disasters have befallen us over the years to which this moment could be compared?

The defeat at the battle of the Boyne?
The defeat at the battle of Kinsale?
The Act of Union?
Schillaci's goal for Italy in the 1990 world cup final?
Sending Dustin to the Eurovision song contest?
The moment when the words "It's a girl,Mrs. Harney " were spoken?

29 September 2008, the day the government of Ireland voted to guarantee the loans of Irish banks, genuinely seems like a critical moment in Irish history.

There must, there simply must be successful prosecutions of the leaders of the Irish financial institutions who, allegedly, duped the government of Ireland into these guarantees on that night. If there are not such prosecutions, it is clear that we have been duped by the same government into believing that the banks deceived the government on that night.

Dudess · 15-11-2010 9:01pm

Jedward.

Princess Peach · 15-11-2010 9:02pm

Dudess wrote: »

Jedward.

I'll just add Louis Walsh to this.

alwaysadub · 15-11-2010 9:02pm

Nolanger wrote: »

RTE scrapping the Riordans back in 1978.

Your one who played Mrs Riordan died today.

pebbles21 · 15-11-2010 9:04pm

Colm and Jim Jims Home Run!

KeithAFC · 15-11-2010 9:07pm

cml387 wrote: »

I know many of you After Hours people may be unaware, but we are on the brink of a National Calamity the likes of which we have never seen before.

However, since we seem to have a habit of this, what other disasters have befallen us over the years to which this moment could be compared?

The defeat at the battle of the Boyne?
The defeat at the battle of Kinsale?
The Act of Union?
Schillaci's goal for Italy in the 1990 world cup final?
Sending Dustin to the Eurovision song contest?
The moment when the words "It's a girl,Mrs. Harney " were spoken?

I picked battle of the boyne.

Donkey Oaty · 15-11-2010 9:09pm

alwaysadub wrote: »

Your one who played Mrs Riordan died today.

Moira Hoey - very fine actress. It's a great shame so many of the episodes have been wiped, because The Riordans had the potential to become a cult classic in years to come.

sheesh · 15-11-2010 9:09pm

cml387 wrote: »

I know many of you After Hours people may be unaware, but we are on the brink of a National Calamity the likes of which we have never seen before.

Ah yes sweet sweet condescension. I think Alot of people are aware of what could be down the road for us. Anyone who remembers the 80s will know what we are probably going back to.

But you are right this is and will be a big blip in the history of the nation. Maybe its something that we as a nation have to go through we will learn that proper regulation is important adequately qualified politicians are important also don't believe everything that you mate who owns a bank tells you.

Nodin · 15-11-2010 9:09pm

KeithAFC wrote: »

I picked battle of the boyne.

Sure your shower won, for jaysus sake......

Rebelheart · 15-11-2010 9:12pm

cml387 wrote: »

I know many of you After Hours people may be unaware, but we are on the brink of a National Calamity the likes of which we have never seen before.

However, since we seem to have a habit of this, what other disasters have befallen us over the years to which this moment could be compared?

The defeat at the battle of the Boyne?
The defeat at the battle of Kinsale?
The Act of Union?
Schillaci's goal for Italy in the 1990 world cup final?
Sending Dustin to the Eurovision song contest?
The moment when the words "It's a girl,Mrs. Harney " were spoken?

Cath na Bóinne/ The Battle of the Boyne (July 1690) was nowhere near as significant as loyalists would like to think. Cath Eachroma/ The Battle of Aughrim (July 1691) was more significant in the 1690s, while Cath Chionn tSáile/The Battle of Kinsale in 1602 (1601 if you follow the English/Julian calendar) was far more significant in Irish history. It was easily the watershed in the transfer of power from the Gaeil to the English/British in this country.

The Ulster "rebellion" in 1641 was probably the most significant date in Irish history after that.

KeithAFC · 15-11-2010 9:15pm

Could argue 1998 peace process too (from a nationalist point of view). Peace, yeah but no United Ireland.

FatRat · 15-11-2010 9:17pm

That guy that fell on RTE news, about a year ago now.

That was pretty devastating. It could have been any of us.

Augmerson · 15-11-2010 9:18pm

What do I think the greatest disaster in Irish history was? Well, the Famine would be pretty high up there. That, and the Civil War. The Partition was bull**** too. The Catholic Church becoming the bastion of morality in society that everyone respected (or just feared) throughout most of the 20th century up until the 1990s was ****e too.

But Zig and Zag going to Channel 4 tops all that.

That was ****ing the end of everything. That's when I knew, at age 9, that this country was full of **** and we were never going to amount to anything. I lost all faith after that day and I have not recently had any reason to alter my position.

cml387 · 15-11-2010 9:20pm

Ireland 3 new Zealand 98.

(Damn I must use my powers of time travel wisely)

Have we got any uncontentious ones that we could all agree on apart from Jedward?

High energy · 15-11-2010 9:27pm

I was paying for some groceries in the supermarket yesterday and she gave me change of a €10 instead of a €20, I just mentioned the mistake and she refunded the correct amount of change. Truly the greatest disaster in Irish history.

sheesh · 15-11-2010 9:33pm

the reformation we would be just fine if uk had stayed catholic.

the famine.

civil war gave us FF and FG so that was a complete disaster.

joining the single currency (ok in hindsight).

we have lost all the money from the first real celtic tiger.

Mister men · 15-11-2010 9:40pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoIEP-iqjm0

starbelgrade · 15-11-2010 9:45pm

The first day an Irishman decided to shave his balls.

Rebelheart · 15-11-2010 9:47pm

sheesh wrote: »

the reformation we would be just fine if uk had stayed catholic.

That's a very, very very mistaken view of Irish history. In fact, the principal reason why the reformation failed was not religious but rather colonial/political/militaristic: the English put the conquest of Ireland above the religious conversion of the Irish. By the time the English had defeated the Irish militarily and were ready to promote Protestantism, the (Catholic) counter-reformation had gained a foothold among the native Irish as a symbol of resistance to the English conquest.

Thereafter religion worked as a suitable justification for English/British power and Irish exclusion from power in Ireland. Prior to religion, race - "wild Irishe"; "barbarous Irishe" etc - was used to deprive the Irish of power in Ireland. Colonisers everywhere need to create a division to give themselves a privileged position in the native society.

Nolanger · 15-11-2010 9:54pm

Voting 'yes' for Lisbon because it would help create jobs!

Donkey Oaty · 15-11-2010 10:00pm

Rebelheart wrote: »

"wild Irishe"; "barbarous Irishe"

Thank God we live in a more enlightened age where no Irish person would ever use any derogatory language about people from other countries or cultures.

kincsem · 15-11-2010 10:12pm

Guinness costing more than £1 a pint. It was as momentous as Roger Bannister breaking the four minute mile barrier.

I'm sure we can chalk that disaster against FF too.

brianthebard · 15-11-2010 10:14pm

The entire history of Ireland is nothing more than a shopping list of disasters.

K-9 · 15-11-2010 10:20pm

Augmerson wrote: »

The Catholic Church becoming the bastion of morality in society that everyone respected (or just feared) throughout most of the 20th century up until the 1990s was ****e too.

This.

Since Independence, that is the biggest disaster to befall us.

We are still paying for it and that isn't talking about the financial cost of abuse cases. Homosexuality was illegal to the mid 90's, no divorce until the same, we export abortions and tbh, I don't blame politicians of running scared of the issue, archaic family law system etc. etc.

Held us back for decades until the EU dragged us kicking and screaming into the 20th century.

Economic stuff isn't new, we struggled through and suffered from stupid policies before, the 30's to the 50's, the 70's and 80's, we'll do it again.

Rebelheart · 15-11-2010 10:31pm

Donkey Oaty wrote: »

Thank God we live in a more enlightened age where no Irish person would ever use any derogatory language about people from other countries or cultures.

That chip on your shoulder is only getting bigger.

Paparazzo · 15-11-2010 10:33pm

Rebelheart wrote: »

Oh fúck. There's always one.

I did it wondering would it get a reaction from rebelheart. You're too predictable!

joebucks · 15-11-2010 10:38pm

Bono.

homerjay2005 · 15-11-2010 10:42pm

on a serious level, in our generation, the worst disasters on this island was the omagh bombing.

the disgraceful scenes of the banking and property crash over the last 2 years are someway back in pale significence but are still huge disasters for us.

Euro_Kraut · 15-11-2010 10:42pm

Today

Augmerson · 15-11-2010 11:24pm

Euro_Kraut wrote: »

Today

Bastards!

CoalBucket · 15-11-2010 11:24pm

cml387 wrote: »

I know many of you After Hours people may be unaware, but we are on the brink of a National Calamity the likes of which we have never seen before.

Schillaci's goal for Italy in the 1990 world cup final?

We got to the world cup final :eek:

Killer Pigeon · 15-11-2010 11:26pm

Fianna Fáil

flyingoutside · 15-11-2010 11:27pm

CoalBucket wrote: »

We got to the world cup final :eek:

and Mary robinson killed Paisley with her bare hands as we took Belfast

sheesh · 16-11-2010 2:22am

Rebelheart wrote: »

That's a very, very very mistaken view of Irish history. In fact, the principal reason why the reformation failed was not religious but rather colonial/political/militaristic: the English put the conquest of Ireland above the religious conversion of the Irish. By the time the English had defeated the Irish militarily and were ready to promote Protestantism, the (Catholic) counter-reformation had gained a foothold among the native Irish as a symbol of resistance to the English conquest.

Thereafter religion worked as a suitable justification for English/British power and Irish exclusion from power in Ireland. Prior to religion, race - "wild Irishe"; "barbarous Irishe" etc - was used to deprive the Irish of power in Ireland. Colonisers everywhere need to create a division to give themselves a privileged position in the native society.

Yeah actually I thought of that afterwards that they brought over settlers anyway to ensure that they had good british stock. ah well:)

Great disasters in Irish history

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