Vehicle Gallery - Discussion Thread

Capri · 31-03-2013 12:11pm

fiverfriday wrote: »

From Capri, in photo thread: Bound to happen - likely Avensis was using probably Luas tracks and didn't stop for (---) Luas stop light - nearly had one myself at Beresford Pl / Abbey st , Transit drove straight thru (---) Luas stop light - I had the green light !
Think I'll have to get my dash cam, as 'accidents happen' but WHO'll get the blame ???

That's possible, but could have been a UT, or the other vehicle may have broke the lights etc. etc.

Lets hope the members are okay.

ALL things are possible but the balance of probabilities based on what I see every day is
1) Garda car not exercising care / talking on mobile when driving on Luas track
2) Other vehicle broke lights / talking on mobile
3) I presume you meant that you hoped ALL involved in the accident were ok ??

No doubt the GSOC will get to the truth

timmywex · 31-03-2013 2:02pm

Capri wrote: »

No doubt the GSOC will get to the truth

GSOC not getting involved because it was a routine collision according to the journal.

POGAN · 01-04-2013 8:32pm

timmywex wrote: »

GSOC not getting involved because it was a routine collision according to the journal.

No gsoc needed

Terrontress · 03-04-2013 7:41am

POGAN wrote: »

No gsoc needed

Do the Traffic Corps deal with that then?

03-04-2013 8:38am

Terrontress wrote: »

Do the Traffic Corps deal with that then?

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah.

But on a serious note, a Sergeant investigates it.

POGAN · 03-04-2013 10:35am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah.

But on a serious note, a Sergeant investigates it.

Foreign you'd loved to be in traffic

3fullback · 05-04-2013 5:51pm

New 131 traffic corps mondeos not going for the grey/silver colour under the Garda fluorescents ? Wonder why ? They bother with it on the avensis's ?

Hogzy · 05-04-2013 5:57pm

3fullback wrote: »

New 131 traffic corps mondeos not going for the grey/silver colour under the Garda fluorescents ? Wonder why ? They bother with it on the avensis's ?

Apparently the Avensises (Avensi?) were grey because Toyota couldnt supply enough white cars on demand. I could be wrong though.

3fullback · 05-04-2013 7:17pm

Really I presumed it was for detection purposes, ie. harder to spot in rear view mirror. I had heard this was the case in England, but why now change a year later, it irritates me why there are so many different makes and models of marked cars, i would prefer a more uniformed approach as i believe its more professional, as for unmarked cars i believe there should be as many different makes as possible !

Also remove them god for saken wastes of money 1.4's (Yaris, corolla's etc.) There a joke, community policing or what its like showing up to a gun fight with a spud gun ! (In situations when then might be need outside of CP)

Rant over

Hogzy · 05-04-2013 7:35pm

3fullback wrote: »

Really I presumed it was for detection purposes, ie. harder to spot in rear view mirror. I had heard this was the case in England, but why now change a year later, it irritates me why there are so many different makes and models of marked cars, i would prefer a more uniformed approach as i believe its more professional, as for unmarked cars i believe there should be as many different makes as possible !

Also remove them god for saken wastes of money 1.4's (Yaris, corolla's etc.) There a joke, community policing or what its like showing up to a gun fight with a spud gun ! (In situations when then might be need outside of CP)

Rant over

They did it in the UK to increase resale value. Silver, grey and black are much more popular colours than White. Its nothing to do with how easily spotted they are. Most UK cars are absolutly plastered in Battenburg markings so it wouldnt make much sense if they were trying to evade detection.

3fullback · 05-04-2013 8:01pm

Hogzy wrote: »

They did it in the UK to increase resale value. Silver, grey and black are much more popular colours than White. Its nothing to do with how easily spotted they are. Most UK cars are absolutly plastered in Battenburg markings so it wouldnt make much sense if they were trying to evade detection.

Interesting why would anybody in there right mind by a used Garda car

!! When and where are they sold off ?

Hogzy · 05-04-2013 8:10pm

3fullback wrote: »

Interesting why would anybody in there right mind by a used Garda car !! When and where are they sold off ?

A car is a car at the end of the day. They are well maintained in fairness and usually come with a full dealers service history. The price will obviously reflect the milleage.

3fullback · 05-04-2013 8:20pm

Hogzy wrote: »

A car is a car at the end of the day. They are well maintained in fairness and usually come with a full dealers service history. The price will obviously reflect the milleage.

:eek: That is all.

Hogzy · 05-04-2013 8:26pm

3fullback wrote: »

:eek: That is all.

Apart from body work, yeah. They are well maintained by the dealerships.

EireGun · 05-04-2013 8:27pm

Bit off topic, but driving past the Courthouse in Naas a couple of days ago I spotted a brand new 131-D jet black Ford Mondeo unmarked car parked outside. Very hard to tell, but it had lights on the dashboard and two vaguely visible lights either side in the grill. Had no time to take a picture, but I will next time I spot it!

EireGun · 05-04-2013 8:30pm

A new silver TC Mondeo from Tipp division

Cartell.ie...

Registration 131D8467
Make FORD
Model MONDEO
Description 2.0 TDCI 140PS M6 4DR
Fuel Type DIESEL

Not too bad I guess, 2 litre diesel turbo for Traffic Corps.

Mister Jingles · 05-04-2013 11:15pm

Is diesel (cars) been accepted well now by guards or petrol any day ?

Hogzy · 05-04-2013 11:21pm

Mister Jingles wrote: »

Is diesel (cars) been accepted well now by guards or petrol any day ?

I would imagine it would depend on the type of patrol. Petrol would be better in cities id think but Diesel in Rural areas and on Motorways.

Why?? Petrol cars would be needed just as much for country stations. Infact most response cars in cities in England as 1.4 or 1.6 diesels because they don't need any top end speed or high acceleration.

As an aside, 2.2 diesel 198bhp mondeos have also been bought for motorway Traffic units.

DesertCreat_15 · 11-04-2013 5:07pm

I see its becoming more and more popular for officers to have their own cameras while on duty, especially traffic related units.

Anybody ever consider getting one and uploading it on the web? Of course going up the chain of command for the "okay"... it would be pretty interesting to see a fail to stop, training or other bad driving on the roads we have here!

POGAN · 11-04-2013 5:58pm

DesertCreat_15 wrote: »

I see its becoming more and more popular for officers to have their own cameras while on duty, especially traffic related units.

Anybody ever consider getting one and uploading it on the web? Of course going up the chain of command for the "okay"... it would be pretty interesting to see a fail to stop, training or other bad driving on the roads we have here!

Gardas already use there camera for work purposes eg rtcs etc....

When traffic blues was so edited jesus would have to come off the cross to get the real stuff on the tele or the net.

You some stuff showing on crimecall tho

Capri · 11-04-2013 9:24pm

Dubai - Lambo Aventador pursuit car :cool:

NYPD - Prius pursuit (pedestrian ?) car

:p

Capri · 14-04-2013 10:17am

Is this the biggest polis car gallery on the net ??

http://code3.wordpress.com/

Some interesting machinery on it.

US police car blog
http://www.policemag.com/blog/vehicles.aspx

3fullback · 14-04-2013 4:24pm

Capri wrote: »

Is this the biggest polis car gallery on the net ??

http://code3.wordpress.com/

Some interesting machinery on it.

US police car blog
http://www.policemag.com/blog/vehicles.aspx

And no Ford Mondeo to be seen!

goldie fish · 17-04-2013 11:18pm

Capri wrote: »

Not that well up on Motos, but maybe this is on test ?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/billkatygemma/7323496208/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/billkatygemma/7323497722/in/photostream/

Special Escort group. They provide armed motorcycle escort to VVIPs. They used BMW R1100RS up to recently, but BMW don't do an RS version any more. Its a VFR1200.

DesertCreat_15 · 17-04-2013 11:33pm

goldie fish wrote: »

Special Escort group. They provide armed motorcycle escort to VVIPs. They used BMW R1100RS up to recently, but BMW don't do an RS version any more. Its a VFR1200.

You're correct

If anybody is interested, heres a video of them in action. A video from a youtuber i watch regularly

http://youtu.be/Kvyht9Q3MZU?t=25s

Another video, unrelated to the SEG, but watch it if you need a smile!
http://youtu.be/DVmSK89y_-U

Terrontress · 18-04-2013 6:58pm

goldie fish wrote: »

Special Escort group. They provide armed motorcycle escort to VVIPs. They used BMW R1100RS up to recently, but BMW don't do an RS version any more. Its a VFR1200.

I've seen them quite a bit around the Borough area. Their base must be somewhere nearby. The bikes all have SEG in the numberplate and little lights above the wing mirrors. What's coolest is that they ride in formation when not on an escort. You'll see them turn a corner with five bikes in a V shape and hold formation perfectly as they turn the corner then straighten up.

Capri · 18-04-2013 6:58pm

Thought my eyes were playing tricks on me today as I passed Tara St fire station, one of the doors was open and there was a SAPEURS-POMPIERS DE PARIS Renault Kangoo van beside the DFB Land Rover Defender :eek::eek:
Drove around the block to get a photo but the door had been closed and the acrylic sheet isn't the best for getting a shot thru. Passed later but couldn't see the Renault there. Maybe it's an electric Kangoo on trial or are there 'cultural exchanges' going on - remember the Gendarmerie here for the Tour de France years ago :cool:

WilcoOut · 21-04-2013 8:29pm

last pic of the ERU put up by The Sky (two members side by side)

is the member on the left Female?

Crux · 22-04-2013 12:14pm

No. Watch the you tube video of same. Definately a bloke.

medic112 · 22-04-2013 7:34pm

@ capri,

they where over at the all hazards response 2 day conference in citywest last week, the paris lads & an ambulance HART team from the uk, showcasing there skills etc.

Capri · 22-04-2013 10:15pm

medic112 wrote: »

@ capri,

they where over at the all hazards response 2 day conference in citywest last week, the paris lads & an ambulance HART team from the uk, showcasing there skills etc.

Thought I was losing me marbles when I saw the SAPEURS-POMPIERS DE PARIS Renault Kangoo in Tara St !
Bit of an ol' drive from Paris for a 2 day conference :rolleyes:

Terrontress · 23-04-2013 7:30pm

Crux wrote: »

No. Watch the you tube video of same. Definately a bloke.

Do the ERU operate outside of Ireland ever? I'm wondering about the tricolour patches on their arms and what purpose they serve.

The Maverick · 23-04-2013 11:52pm

Terrontress wrote: »

Do the ERU operate outside of Ireland ever? I'm wondering about the tricolour patches on their arms and what purpose they serve.

I did read a few years back (may have got the gist wrong) that there was an attempt to standardise specialist armed police units across the EU in terms of appearance etc. It explains why the ERU body armour says Police as well as Garda, to make them as recognisable as possible. Perhaps the tricolour is related to this?

Maybe there's a provision there for these units to train together too. The PSNI's version of the ERU were involved in the recent exercise, so it does happen.

CB19Kevo · 23-04-2013 11:56pm

Looks odd the way the battenburg on the Garda cars end half way down.
I don't think many UK forces do it in this way and in my opinion it looks cheap even on the shiny new cars recently allocated.

Mister Jingles · 24-04-2013 12:02am

The Avensis looks the better car on the outside by far but I can imagine the Mondeo is far superior under the bonnet.

goldie fish · 24-04-2013 8:28am

CB19Kevo wrote: »

Looks odd the way the battenburg on the Garda cars end half way down.
I don't think many UK forces do it in this way and in my opinion it looks cheap even on the shiny new cars recently allocated.

Best international practice, you'll find.

Terrontress · 24-04-2013 7:04pm

The Maverick wrote: »

I did read a few years back (may have got the gist wrong) that there was an attempt to standardise specialist armed police units across the EU in terms of appearance etc. It explains why the ERU body armour says Police as well as Garda, to make them as recognisable as possible. Perhaps the tricolour is related to this?

Maybe there's a provision there for these units to train together too. The PSNI's version of the ERU were involved in the recent exercise, so it does happen.

Given the necessity of the PSNI remaining approachable to all the community, there's no chance of them displaying any flag or symbol beyond the PSNI crest.

Capri · 24-04-2013 9:43pm

goldie fish wrote: »

Best international practice, you'll find.

Copying the Brits as usual more likely - show me other 'international ' police cars that have as much ****e on them (Swedes/Kiwis, but not many more !)
Another waste of money - WHO can't see a flashing blue light and slow down :P
What next - a H&S rep in every patrol car to do a H&S assesment at every traffic stop :mad:

:D

Mister Jingles · 24-04-2013 11:11pm

foreign wrote: »

Cabra's Focus

As in Dublin ? If so I don't think thats true.

goldie fish · 25-04-2013 12:03am

Capri wrote: »

Copying the Brits as usual more likely - show me other 'international ' police cars that have as much ****e on them (Swedes/Kiwis, but not many more !)
Another waste of money - WHO can't see a flashing blue light and slow down :P
What next - a H&S rep in every patrol car to do a H&S assesment at every traffic stop :mad: :D

It could also be because our drivers are so useless here they couldn't see just a blue flashing light and frequently ploughed straight into an emergency vehicle going to or dealing with an incident, and then used the defence "I didn't see them". You'll also find that those cars without all the hi-viz markings are equipped with crash bars, to safely ram dopey motorists out of the way.

The safety of the emergency vehicle user, should always come before everything else.

CB19Kevo · 25-04-2013 12:34am

goldie fish wrote: »

Best international practice, you'll find.

No problem with Battenburg, It looks quite well if done correctly.
Its just the way it is done on Garda vehicles i think is poor.
Half done and the rest of the car just left white/silver unlike the way most UK forces fully do the vehicle's.

http://ambulancevisibilityblog.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/the-ideal-battenburg-layout-for-police-sedans-and-wagons.jpg

25-04-2013 7:45am

Mister Jingles wrote: »

As in Dublin ? If so I don't think thats true.

That's where I was told it's based. Could have moved since but is still in DMR.

goldie fish · 25-04-2013 8:00am

CB19Kevo wrote: »

No problem with Battenburg, It looks quite well if done correctly.
Its just the way it is done on Garda vehicles i think is poor.
Half done and the rest of the car just left white/silver unlike the way most UK forces fully do the vehicle's.

http://ambulancevisibilityblog.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/the-ideal-battenburg-layout-for-police-sedans-and-wagons.jpg

There was a document recently produced about the placing of battenburg etc and it found that the pattern in the photo above while highly visible is also counter prodctive at night, as it is difficult to identify what the collection of hi-vis markings in the distance is.

Trying to find it now, but the kiwis came to the same conclusion. Half battenburg is the way the UK are going since 2004, except for motorway only vehicles, which remain full battenburg.

http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20100413151441/http://scienceandresearch.homeoffice.gov.uk/hosdb/publications/road-policing-publications/14-04-High-Conspicuity-Li12835.pdf?view=Binary

http://www.tenone.police.govt.nz/tenone/Nov08Changestolivery.htm

POGAN · 25-04-2013 11:23am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

That's where I was told it's based. Could have moved since but is still in DMR.

It was based in cabra it was out in checkpoint with armed dos after there couple months back !!

Mister Jingles · 25-04-2013 12:45pm

I can defiantly tell yous that I have never seen a silver marked focus anywhere near Dublin 7. I often see one out by Sutton/Howth way.
Cabra has two Focus but one is blue and the other is a mk1 patrol car, as well as a vectra, mondeo, connect and avensis.

heffomike54 · 25-04-2013 10:41pm

I think there must be a few silver marked focus's going around, there is one based on the Northside & another one in the north inner city. They look well in my opinion.

26-04-2013 10:40pm

Slightly off topic, but just wondering what was the general consensus on the surbaru forester from anybody within traffic? Some of the 2.5XT models going very cheap now.

POGAN · 27-04-2013 12:06am

3581 wrote: »

Slightly off topic, but just wondering what was the general consensus on the surbaru forester from anybody within traffic? Some of the 2.5XT models going very cheap now.

They won't buy used cars

Hooch · 27-04-2013 4:37am

3581 wrote: »

Slightly off topic, but just wondering what was the general consensus on the surbaru forester from anybody within traffic? Some of the 2.5XT models going very cheap now.

We had 2.0 ltrs in traffic. Terrible machines. Noisy, top heavy and although they had some poke, not much more than the standard petrol Mondeo.

Fine family cars, but not patrol cars.

27-04-2013 7:30am

Hooch wrote: »

Fine family cars, but not patrol cars.

Same goes for a lot of the cars purchased for us.

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