Michael Schumacher Suffers Serious Head Injury

Terrontress · 09-09-2014 7:30pm

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

I would think going home is a good sign of his recovery, wish him well anyways

Hopefully so. And being in his own surroundings should hopefully provide a boost.

I didn't mean to sound defeatist, I just meant that he'd be able to afford everything from a hospital and have it at home, although he wouldn't have the same emergency backup so it probably is a good sign.

robinwing · 12-09-2014 8:38pm

http://ms-fans.com/dr-krull-every-day-i-run-31-miles-for-schumi/

robinwing · 24-09-2014 9:44pm

Michael Schumacher's son Mick took a tentative step to following in his father's footsteps over the weekend.

The 15-year-old, who competes under the moniker Mick Junior after previously using his mother Corrinna's surname Betsch, finished runner-up to British youngster Enaam Ahmed in the FIA's KF-Junior category at the World Championships in Essay, France, on Sunday.

The teenager won four heats to make the final where he finished six seconds behind Ahmed to claim second place on the podium.

It was his first major success since his father picked up serious head injuries during a skiing accident in France in December. The 45-year-old Schumacher was in a medically-induced coma for six months, but his rehabilitation is continuing at home.

Mick, though, dreams of emulating his father, who won seven Formula 1 World Championships.

After the race he declared: "Of course I am proud of such an important result, but it is also clear that it is my goal to be world champion. This is only the beginning of my career." ( Source PlanetF1 website )

Scotty # · 07-10-2014 1:29pm

Jean Todt's been to visit and gives a very positive report.

http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/schumacher-can-live-normal-life-again-todt/

v10 · 07-10-2014 1:32pm

Scotty # wrote: »

Jean Todt's been to visit and gives a very positive report.

http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/schumacher-can-live-normal-life-again-todt/

If true, this is really great news.

Cool_CM · 07-10-2014 1:51pm

If true, that's great news!

Tea 1000 · 07-10-2014 5:09pm

Scotty # wrote: »

Jean Todt's been to visit and gives a very positive report.

http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/schumacher-can-live-normal-life-again-todt/

Looks like it might have been overstated in that article how bright the picture Todt painted. Here's the original article here (use Chrome to translate):
http://www.rtl.be/sport/automoto/F1/280731/rtl-a-rencontre-jean-todt-michael-schumacher-se-bat-mais-il-lui-faut-du-temps-

Basically says he's fighting and needs time.

robinwing · 07-10-2014 7:53pm

Here is a more accurate version of the statement from Todt

FIA President Jean Todt has visited Michael Schumacher at his home in Switzerland, where he was recently shifted after receiving treatment in a hospital and rehabilitation facility.

The Frenchman had a strong bond with Schumacher over the years and the pair enjoyed an ultra successful period in Formula 1 with Ferrari during 2000 to 2006.

Commenting on the German’s current condition, Todt said, “In the past weeks and months, he has made progress in relation to the severity of his injury. But a long and hard road is in front of him.” He added, “Hopefully things will improve. His family is close to him. He needs time and peace.”

robinwing · 08-10-2014 9:14pm

The report on F1today.net says Todt did sound optimistic about the future of his former Ferrari colleague but it was actually the reporter who had asked Todt if Schumacher will one day live a 'normal life' again, to which the former Ferrari boss answered: "One can only hope. We can say he will probably not be able to drive in formula one again. He has made progress in recent weeks and months, but there is still a long and hard road ahead of him. He needs time and rest. He fights and one can hope that things will improve quickly."

When pressed for details about Schumacher's current condition, including whether the former Ferrari and Mercedes driver can move and speak, Todt insisted: "I do not want to say because it is a very personal matter. What is important is that he is alive and his family is around him."

Regretfully, this is somewhat less positive than the Planet F1 spin.

Scotty # · 08-10-2014 9:33pm

Anyone who has an interest in Shumacher's or Bianchi's situation should watch a superb documentary called The Crash Reel. It's about Kevin Pierce, a US snowboarder who suffered a severe brain injury a few years ago, and his coming to terms with it. One of the best documentaries you will ever see.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sj0vY2Nymqw

Rucking_Fetard · 18-10-2014 8:26pm

(Reuters) - GoPro Inc's shares fell as much as 16 percent on Monday after a French journalist suggested that Formula 1 legend Michael Schumacher's injuries in a ski accident last year might have been caused by a wearable camera made by the company.

"The problem for Michael was not the hit, but the mounting of the GoPro camera that he had on his helmet that injured his brain," Jean-Louis Moncet told radio station Europe 1 over the weekend.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/13/us-gopro-stocks-idUSKCN0I226D20141013

The company's shares ended down 9.8 percent at $76.67 on the Nasdaq on Monday. Up to Friday's close, the stock had nearly quadrupled in value since the company listed on June 26.

Shares of other wearable camera makers also fell, with Digital Ally Inc closing 12.9 percent lower at $10.41 and Taser International Inc ending 3.2 percent down at $13.61.

Cookie_Monster · 20-10-2014 4:00am

(Reuters) - GoPro Inc's shares fell as much as 16 percent on Monday after a French journalist suggested that Formula 1 legend Michael Schumacher's injuries in a ski accident last year might have been caused by a wearable camera made by the company.

That's a bit of a reckless statement to make without concrete proof. I reckon the company may have a thing or two to say to that journo

20-10-2014 3:08pm

And some people still insist that stock markets operate on perfectly rational and mathematical and statistical analysis of profits, earnings, potential dividends etc. :pac:

robinwing · 31-10-2014 1:20pm

A doctor who treated Michael Schumacher for nearly six months after his brain injury in a skiing accident says the F1 champion has made "some progress".

But Jean-Francois Payen, a doctor at the French hospital in Grenoble where he was treated, warned that any recovery would take time.

The typical convalescence period was one to three years, he suggested.

Schumacher, 45, was skiing in the French Alps last December when he fell and hit his head on a rock.

The seven-time world champion from Germany was placed in a medically induced coma to help reduce swelling in his brain as he underwent treatment in Grenoble and then in Lausanne, Switzerland.

He has now been taken out of the coma and is being looked after at his home in Gland, Switzerland, where Prof Payen still visits him to track his progress.

source BBC News Europe

Mousewar · 03-11-2014 12:45pm

Less positive view.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/hopes-of-recovery-for-michael-schumacher-starting-to-fade-30713252.html

walshb · 03-11-2014 3:28pm

The Irish Daily Mail did a detailed article on Michael. The reports of him progressing are misleading. He still requires non stop care, and this may be a lifetime scenario. Very sad.

Myrddin · 03-11-2014 3:32pm

walshb wrote: »

The Irish Daily Mail did a detailed article on Michael. The reports of him progressing are misleading. He still requires non stop care, and this may be a lifetime scenario. Very sad.

Some would say there are fates even worse than death

Gamb!t · 03-11-2014 11:07pm

Mousewar wrote: »

Less positive view.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/hopes-of-recovery-for-michael-schumacher-starting-to-fade-30713252.html

Those Hartstein comments are supposed to have been mentioned months ago,judging by the comments below the article.

Frank Bullitt · 03-11-2014 11:10pm

It would appear that if there is nothing new to report (good or bad), they will publish this type of stuff. Very poor journalism.

T-Maxx · 13-11-2014 5:19pm

Official MS site

Live again in commemoration of his first WDC this day 20 years ago.

veganrun · 20-11-2014 12:15am

Not sure if to believe this or not.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/michael-schumacher-latest-formula-one-4656134

Gael23 · 20-11-2014 12:16am

veganrun wrote: »

Not sure if to believe this or not.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/michael-schumacher-latest-formula-one-4656134

I said this months ago but there are some fates worse than death.

mickdw · 20-11-2014 12:25am

That would suggest that he is better than I thought. Sitting up and presumably coherent (if they can comment on memory and speech) suggests he is recovering.

RayM · 20-11-2014 2:51pm

Weirdly (and depressingly), this is probably the best bit of news I've heard about Schumacher since the accident. If it's true that he's in a wheelchair, and no longer bed-bound, he's making a lot more progress than had previously been reported.

Myrddin · 20-11-2014 3:24pm

mickdw wrote: »

That would suggest that he is better than I thought. Sitting up and presumably coherent (if they can comment on memory and speech) suggests he is recovering.

My thoughts too. In a way it's kind of encouraging that's he's even at the level of being assessed in terms of speech & memory. Who knows though.

Zcott · 20-11-2014 4:28pm

I'd take these comments with a pinch of salt after reading this on Twitter:

https://twitter.com/AmandaJDavies/status/535363292412522496

Gamb!t · 28-02-2015 8:45pm

Bit of a nothing story but the family have been selling off more stuff.
https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/formula-1-michael-schumachers-mountain-refuge-sold-1-182317103--f1.html

Ghost Train · 28-02-2015 9:30pm

Gamb!t wrote: »

Bit of a nothing story but the family have been selling off more stuff.
https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/formula-1-michael-schumachers-mountain-refuge-sold-1-182317103--f1.html

does say even before the accident the plan was to sell it but who knows

HighLine · 04-02-2016 5:53pm

Doesn't sound good... "I have news and unfortunately it is not good," Luca di Montezemolo told reporters on Thursday.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/35496878

Mike Litoris · 04-02-2016 6:32pm

Other sites are quoting him as saying "I have no good news". The above may be lost in translation. If so, well done with that headline BBC. :rolleyes:

HighLine · 04-02-2016 6:37pm

Mike Litoris wrote: »

Other sites are quoting him as saying "I have no good news". The above may be lost in translation. If so, well done with that headline BBC. :rolleyes:

Yes I have just seen those other headlines.... could definitely be a case of lost in translation in that he meant he had no new news.

Ursus Horribilis · 04-02-2016 6:45pm

It would be better for everyone if this poor man died now. If he's being kept alive artificially, you've got to ask for whose sake that is? Let's face it, he is never going to come back from a traumatic brain injury like this. His care is going to drain the family's fortune. What effect is it having on his wife and family? Really they would be better off in the long run if he died now. At least then they could grieve now and come to some sort of terms with it.

Glico Man · 04-02-2016 6:53pm

Odus fell down wrote: »

It would be better for everyone if this poor man died now. If he's being kept alive artificially, you've got to ask for whose sake that is? Let's face it, he is never going to come back from a traumatic brain injury like this. His care is going to drain the family's fortune. What effect is it having on his wife and family? Really they would be better off in the long run if he died now. At least then they could grieve now and come to some sort of terms with it.

Jesus... There's some positivity for you. Let's just give up cos there's no hope. People have woken up after longer comas than this and have, in many cases, made a full recovery.

Fcuk me... Try telling the family, "let's face it, there's no point waiting and hoping he'll come back"

Kristopherus · 04-02-2016 7:04pm

Glico Man wrote: »

Jesus... There's some positivity for you. Let's just give up cos there's no hope. People have woken up after longer comas than this and have, in many cases, made a full recovery.

Fcuk me... Try telling the family, "let's face it, there's no point waiting and hoping he'll come back"

His post is more realistic than yours. Schumacher is at Death's door. There is no hope of a recovery.

ScumLord · 04-02-2016 7:07pm

Glico Man wrote: »

Jesus... There's some positivity for you. Let's just give up cos there's no hope. People have woken up after longer comas than this and have, in many cases, made a full recovery.

Fcuk me... Try telling the family, "let's face it, there's no point waiting and hoping he'll come back"

Is he in a coma? I thought he was conscious? There's waking up from a coma, and then there's significant brain injury. The brain isn't really good at repairing itself so quite often a damaged brain stays damaged. I know people who have had major brain injuries and it sounds seems like a hellish way to live. The person could be lucid but with no control over their body. They could just have some brain function, so effectively half brain dead and the person you knew is effectively gone, the bodies just being kept alive artificially.

I kind of had the same thought as Odus fell down, I think there would be some relief for everyone (including Michael) if he could die. He's life could be a non-stop nightmare for all we know. I can't think of anything worse than being stuck inside your own body with no prospect of recovery.

Although, I don't know what he's condition is like, maybe he is showing signs of recovery, maybe he is fighting. But if I heard he'd died, while sad, it could also be the best outcome, depending on the situation.

jmayo · 04-02-2016 7:27pm

Glico Man wrote: »

Jesus... There's some positivity for you. Let's just give up cos there's no hope. People have woken up after longer comas than this and have, in many cases, made a full recovery.

Fcuk me... Try telling the family, "let's face it, there's no point waiting and hoping he'll come back"

If he is "locked in" or even worse "totally locked in" then he is better off dead.

Lets just say listening to people describe people in this condition letting out some sort of moans because they can't do anything else only maybe look at you with pitiful eyes is a fate worse then death.

As other poster said you just don't come back from severe brain injury.
Real life isn't like some Hollywood movie unfortunately.

kenco · 04-02-2016 9:08pm

If the rumours (and they are just that) are true then I hope for one he passes peacefully for his and his families sake.

Was not an admirer of his racing 'strategies' but would not wise this on anyone so hope what is best happens....

Myrddin · 04-02-2016 9:28pm

It has to be a mistranslation, would we really be hearing of any impending news from Luca, instead of his manager or indeed his wife?

There indeed is no good news, how can there be? It's been two years, if there was anything good to report, I've no doubt we'd have heard it by now. I expect Michael is very, very different today than how we remember him, and to protect his dignity, his family appear to have kept silent on any further updates. That is their right, and to be fair, who can blame them when there's an army of paparazzi just waiting to profit off of Michael any way they can?

It could be argued that by releasing information directly to the public, they'd be cutting off the paparazzi, and that is true. But what if there is nothing to report? What if there is no update? What if Michael is in a bad way, and his dignity is all that's left to protect? He's a husband, and a father first, and this is a family we're talking about. I say leave them be, and when we hear something we hear something...for now though, all we can hope is that Michael's quality of life is good, and personally, I think the family have gone through enough without having to compromise any further.

Gael23 · 05-02-2016 12:02am

Death is a release from suffering, Schumacher has endured enough over the past 2 years, a fate worse than death to me

Bobby04 · 05-02-2016 12:18am

Luca's comment is open to interpretation, and far from a complete description of Michael's condition, or any possible developments in his condition either recently or expected. I'm really surprised at the way the internet has grasped the one liner and ran with it for all sorts of 'conclusions'. I personally dread to think he won't recover, and do fear the worst, but not based on a few vague words from Luca.

mattser · 05-02-2016 10:45am

kenco wrote: »

If the rumours (and they are just that) are true then I hope for one he passes peacefully for his and his families sake.

Was not an admirer of his racing 'strategies' but would not wise this on anyone so hope what is best happens....

I think I know what you mean, but his greatest strategy was his talent. Fearless and quick.
I loved watching him dice with Mika, Jacque, Damon etc. etc. Real racing. I thought his comeback was a mistake, though. Good luck to Lewis, but the fun is gone.
Anyway, my thoughts are with the family, whatever the outcome.

( I think I saw that young Mick is handy on the track )

Wanderer78 · 05-02-2016 11:39pm

we have no real info to go on here. we ve no idea how he really is but it doesnt sound good. he was one of the finest f1 drivers ever even though i was never really a fan but you gotta respect his achievements. i wish him and his family the best. a truly dreadful situation for a family.

Glico Man · 06-02-2016 7:50am

Odus fell down wrote: »

It would be better for everyone if this poor man died now. If he's being kept alive artificially, you've got to ask for whose sake that is? Let's face it, he is never going to come back from a traumatic brain injury like this. His care is going to drain the family's fortune. What effect is it having on his wife and family? Really they would be better off in the long run if he died now. At least then they could grieve now and come to some sort of terms with it.

Having taken some time to actually think about it, I have to say that I've come to agree with your take on the situation.

I regret that my immediate post was more un-thoughtout than I had originally intended, wasn't from the head and I'd like to express my sorrow for that.

It is indeed a fate worse than death if he is being kept alive artificially. A great man, but now seen as a symbol of great pain for his family and friends.

Ursus Horribilis · 06-02-2016 10:20am

I've got a family member who was kept alive for longer than she should have been because her husband couldn't/wouldn't accept that there was no hope of a recovery. A relative of mine had a friend who ended up with locked in syndrome. Her daughter insisted that she be resuscitated when she should've been let slip away. She regretted it afterwards but had to look at her mother in that condition for 2 years. My point is that grieving relatives don't always do the right thing. They often don't see what we can see because they're so emotionally involved.

The human mind has a great capacity for self delusion at times. Modern medicine is a wonderful thing in many ways but sometimes I think it does more harm than good. Is keeping someone alive at all costs the right thing to do?

Anyway, this may or may not apply to the Schumachers. It's easy to talk about playing god when you're not emotionally involved.

Myrddin · 06-02-2016 10:27am

Odus fell down wrote: »

My point is that grieving relatives don't always do the right thing. They often don't see what we can see because they're so emotionally involved

Very true. The counter argument in this case is though is that we are not seeing what they are seeing. What if Michael can nod, smile, communicate in some way...and they see him as a beacon of hope, rather than anything else? What if they're simply choosing to keep Michael's condition private because they want to respect his dignity? My point is, we simply don't have enough information on to say anything...we can only speculate, and coming to conclusions based on speculation isn't always the right thing to do.

If it emerged that Michael was indeed a prisoner in his own body, and had zero quality of life...I'd be the first to advocate letting him go. So I'm not some idealist or eternal optimist here, I just feel more information is needed before any conclusions can be drawn. We know next to nothing about his condition...and while it can't be good, that doesn't mean it's automatically very bad either.

Boskowski · 06-02-2016 10:29am

Am I missing something? There doesn't seem to be any news at all but for one sentence saying there is no good news and we're all running off speculating he'd be better off dead and whatnot.

Bobeagleburger · 06-02-2016 12:47pm

Incredible how private the family have kept things since his accident. Unusual in this day and age.

The way it should be.

HighLine · 06-02-2016 3:41pm

I'm sort of regretting bringing back up this thread now.. I saw the breaking headline which read "I have news and unfortunately it's not good" and thought it might have been some evolving news. As discussed above, in many ways, it would be better for the family if he did slip away but I guess no one knows what condition he is actually in to make that call.

In any event, I'm hoping for the best for him and his family.

Gamb!t · 06-02-2016 11:23pm

I met some Swiss friends last summer who said he was still in a bad way and will not recover,they also told me that he was not wearing a helmet at the time of the accident but in fact an F1 cap.

Spudman_20000 · 08-02-2016 4:32pm

Gamb!t wrote: »

I met some Swiss friends last summer who said he was still in a bad way and will not recover,they also told me that he was not wearing a helmet at the time of the accident but in fact an F1 cap.

I find it hard to believe the part about the cap (although it would go some way to explaining the severity of the injury).

All reports, including the ENSA expert report into the accident, said the helmet he was wearing split into two pieces.

There are lots of pictures in the past of him wearing a cap while skiing, but I don't think they would have been able to cover up only wearing a cap when the accident happened.

Michael Schumacher Suffers Serious Head Injury

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