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2014 Tour de France

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    #332
    Eamonnator
    Registered Users Posts: 6,561 ✭✭✭Eamonnator


    bazermc wrote: »
    If Sagan doesn't win the stage in Paris tomorrow. Will this be the first time green jersey winner didn't win a single stage ?

    Eric Vanderaerden won the green jersey in 1986, without winning a stage.
    I don't know, if there were any others.


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    #333
    Dr. Bre
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    if nibali beats martin in the time trial today I give up ha


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    #334
    Chartsengrafs
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    Just realised Nibali is Sicilian. There on holidays at the moment, hopefully there'll be a nice buzz around tomorrow evening. Been following him for years, not sure how I didn't pick up on it!


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    #335
    buffalo
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    bazermc wrote: »
    If Sagan doesn't win the stage in Paris tomorrow. Will this be the first time green jersey winner didn't win a single stage ?

    Hushovd in 2005.


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    #336
    letape
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    bazermc wrote: »
    If Sagan doesn't win the stage in Paris tomorrow. Will this be the first time green jersey winner didn't win a single stage ?

    Kelly in 1989 - a fabulous Tour for many reasons including Kelly's amazing performances.


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    #337
    bazermc
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    letape wrote: »
    Kelly in 1989 - a fabulous Tour for many reasons including Kelly's amazing performances.

    Cheers. Before my time!


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    #338
    bazermc
    Registered Users Posts: 3,116 ✭✭✭bazermc


    Who the heck is this guy hosting Lemond on tour!

    Wonder will he wear yellow trousers for the last stage tomorrow.


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    #339
    godtabh
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,204 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    bazermc wrote: »
    Cheers. Before my time!

    You should read his book. Its very good (just dont read it with his voice in your head!)


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    #340
    letape
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    bazermc wrote: »
    Cheers. Before my time!

    It was the first tour I remember watching on tv - I was very young!


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    #341
    The tax man
    Registered Users Posts: 4,557 ✭✭✭The tax man


    bazermc wrote: »
    Cheers. Before my time!
    letape wrote: »
    It was the first tour I remember watching on tv - I was very young!

    I feel old now.:(

    Although I feel sorry for anyone into cycling that missed out on the 80's.:p


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    #342
    unichall
    Registered Users Posts: 394 ✭✭unichall


    Eurosport : Watts: Tour de France funnies and fails - http://eurosport.yahoo.com/video/watts-tour-france-funnies-fails-110645530.html

    not sure if this link will work, posting from my phone.

    video of the best and worst moments of Le tour


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    #343
    straps
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    Anyone know where I can buy one of the lion teddy bears they give the yellow jersey rider?


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    #344
    bazermc
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    straps wrote: »
    Anyone know where I can buy one of the lion teddy bears they give the yellow jersey rider?

    There's a guy in Texas that has loads.


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    #345
    buffalo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,055 ✭✭✭buffalo


    I started the Tour with €50 in my account with the bookies to play around with during the three weeks, promised myself I wouldn't spend any more than that. After 18 different bets throughout, I finish with ...€50.

    WHAT ARE THE ODDS?!


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    #346
    Idleater
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    buffalo wrote: »

    WHAT ARE THE ODDS?!

    Erm, multiply your 18 bets together?


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    #347
    ednwireland
    Registered Users Posts: 14,308 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    straps wrote: »
    Anyone know where I can buy one of the lion teddy bears they give the yellow jersey rider?

    http://www.ebay.ie/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313&_nkw=credit+lyonnais+lion&_sacat=0&_from=R40

    or win a stage of the tour

    My weather

    https://www.ecowitt.net/home/share?authorize=96CT1F



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    #348
    dastardly00
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    Today means the end of this bromance until next year!
    Greg Le Mond & Stefano Bernabino

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    #349
    ROK ON
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    Idleater wrote: »
    Erm, multiply your 18 bets together?

    Incorrect.

    The odds do not equal the probability. In each sporting event the odds do not exactly add up to 1 - the difference is the bookmakers margin.
    On that basis Buffalo would need to know the margin for each of his 18 bets and thus adjust the probability accordingly.


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    #350
    Idleater
    Registered Users Posts: 6,236 ✭✭✭Idleater


    Indeed,
    Though the odds looking back after the fact can be expanded into a satisfactory equation?
    Another point would be whether all 18 were placed at the one time (multiplication) or separately (addition).


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    #351
    Morrisseeee
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    Delighted for Nibali, he's a quality rider and thoroughly deserves his 3 GT wins. Only for a ridiculous Contador messing things up in 2011, he probably would have won a 2nd Giro.
    He has 7 podiums in his last 8 GT starts.


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    #352
    buffalo
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    Idleater wrote: »
    Indeed,
    Though the odds looking back after the fact can be expanded into a satisfactory equation?
    Another point would be whether all 18 were placed at the one time (multiplication) or separately (addition).

    Separately, and for varying amounts. Some days I put a bet on the stage winner, occasionally I did a head-to-head, and then I had a couple of punts on the overall podium. After all the losses and wins, I find it amusing that I broke exactly even - couldn't have done that if I'd tried!


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    #353
    bazermc
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    The Monday after the tour finishes is the most depressing day of the Year!


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    #354
    RobFowl
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    bazermc wrote: »
    The Monday after the tour finishes is the most depressing day of the Year!

    Tour of Wallonie started :)


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    #355
    Koobcam
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    Get off the sofa and back out on the bike, you'll feel better...


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    #356
    pajor
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    unichall wrote: »
    Eurosport : Watts: Tour de France funnies and fails - http://eurosport.yahoo.com/video/watts-tour-france-funnies-fails-110645530.html

    not sure if this link will work, posting from my phone.

    video of the best and worst moments of Le tour

    Just watched it. Quality as always.


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    #357
    L'Enfer du Nord
    Registered Users Posts: 587 ✭✭✭L'Enfer du Nord


    bazermc wrote: »
    If Sagan doesn't win the stage in Paris tomorrow. Will this be the first time green jersey winner didn't win a single stage ?

    Sean Kelly was actually a past master at this, he won his last tour stage and and first Green jersey in 1982, all his subsequent Green Jersey victories were without winning a stage: 1983, 1985, 1989. I remember watching the 1985 tour, Kelly finished second five times!


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    #358
    buffalo
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    L'Enfer du Nord wrote: »
    Sean Kelly was actually a past master at this, he won his last tour stage and and first Green jersey in 1982, all his subsequent Green Jersey victories were without winning a stage: 1983, 1985, 1989. I remember watching the 1985 tour, Kelly finished second five times!

    With that in mind, this is a decent read - "Sean Kelly Tour de France blog: I know exactly how Sagan feels"

    http://cyclingtips.com.au/2014/07/sean-kelly-tour-de-france-blog-i-know-exactly-how-sagan-feels/


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    #359
    TheBlaaMan
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    "No seriously, Vinny, I was right behind him. This is what Contador was doing when he went down..."

    "Ah Peter, stop, you're crackin' me up. I think I just had a little wee..."

    sagan_tasr_r1529-r143-st.ir3-_t600.jpg


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    #360
    buffalo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,055 ✭✭✭buffalo


    bazermc wrote: »
    If Sagan doesn't win the stage in Paris tomorrow. Will this be the first time green jersey winner didn't win a single stage ?

    IrishPeloton has your definitive answer:
    10 – The number of riders who have won the Green Jersey of points classification winner without winning a stage of the Tour de France – Peter Sagan (2014), Thor Hushovd (2005), Erik Zabel (1998,1999), Sean Kelly (1983, 1985, 1989), Eddy Planckaert (1988), Eric Vanderaerden (1986), Herman Van SPringel (1973), Jean Gracyzk (1958), Jean Forestier (1957), Stan Ockers (1955).

    This nugget is astonishing though:
    58 – The number of stages that Peter Sagan has spent in the Green Jersey during his career. The only riders who have spent more time in Green are Erik Zabel (88) and Sean Kelly (67). But both Zabel and Kelly both took part in 14 Tours de France. Sagan has taken part in three.

    http://www.irishpeloton.com/2014/07/2014-tour-de-france-for-stats-geeks/


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