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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,396 ✭✭✭✭kaimera




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,875 ✭✭✭Foxhole Norman




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,827 ✭✭✭fred funk }{


    CianRyan wrote: »

    How come a lot of American cars haven't got ABS?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,721 ✭✭✭✭CianRyan


    They like making old cars go fast, must the same reason you hear of a lot of hot Jap cars crashing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,063 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    How come a lot of American cars haven't got ABS?

    ABS wouldn't really change a thing here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,974 ✭✭✭Chris_Heilong


    CiniO wrote: »
    ABS wouldn't really change a thing here.

    No, this was caused by the idiot not looking, its a straight road, surly you can see a car stopped up ahead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭ARGINITE




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,598 ✭✭✭rizzodun


    Monster trucks are cool, but I just don't get the point of the 'sport', it might as well be sponsored by Dulux, what the hell do they even score these guys on? They can do three things, jump, run over cars, and roll over, that's it. Even the side by side racing they used to do made more sense than this 'freestyle' rubbish.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,827 ✭✭✭fred funk }{


    CiniO wrote: »
    ABS wouldn't really change a thing here.

    Yeah, I know that. We all know that ABS won't stop you any quicker but enables you to control the car whilst braking but it's something I've noticed with American cars.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,830 ✭✭✭RandomAccess


    rizzodun wrote: »
    Monster trucks are cool, but I just don't get the point of the 'sport', it might as well be sponsored by Dulux, what the hell do they even score these guys on? They can do three things, jump, run over cars, and roll over, that's it. Even the side by side racing they used to do made more sense than this 'freestyle' rubbish.

    Saw them in the cork showgrounds donkeys years ago, great when you're a kid, but really I think once you've seen them a few times thats it.
    I guess for me its not unlike drifting, the long term appeal isn't there from a spectator point of view, somehow both sports are massive draws in the US.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,721 ✭✭✭✭CianRyan


    Drifting takes a lot of skills and control, where as monster trucks just run into **** and hope they don't flip over.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,252 ✭✭✭Sterling Archer


    The thing that is more concerning is the proximity of the fans to the area and how low they are, I thought after that accident many many years ago, no fan was allowed to site lower the the height of the truck?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,063 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    Driving through the bridge in Russia


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭ARGINITE




    Story found here DailyMail.

    Not the best source.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,060 ✭✭✭Kenny Logins


    Why did they swarm the RR in the first place?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭ARGINITE


    There has to be something missing from the start of the video as it seems unprovoked otherwise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,060 ✭✭✭Kenny Logins


    So it seems he accidentally bumped one biker, and didn't stop. TBH, I would be reluctant to stop too when faced with that level of intimidation.

    Every one of those bikers should be charged IMHO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,590 ✭✭✭tossy


    There is a right way and a wrong way to deal with things,those Bikers need a lesson in the difference between right and wrong. Smashing the windows of a range rover with a kid inside is a disgrace no matter what he did wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,309 ✭✭✭✭wotzgoingon


    tossy wrote: »
    There is a right way and a wrong way to deal with things,those Bikers need a lesson in the difference between right and wrong. Smashing the windows of a range rover with a kid inside is a disgrace no matter what he did wrong.

    I hope they dragged him out of the RR and kicked the **** into him, he drove over two bikes with lads on them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,060 ✭✭✭Kenny Logins


    I hope they dragged him out of the RR and kicked the **** into him, he drove over two bikes with lads on them.

    He was surrounded by a large gang of angry bikers with his wife and young child in the car. If I had to make a quick decision, drive over bikers or possibly get stabbed in front of my wife and child (all it takes is one headcase in the pack), I'd drive over the mob every time.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,309 ✭✭✭✭wotzgoingon


    He was surrounded by a large gang of angry bikers with his wife and young child in the car. If I had to make a quick decision, drive over bikers or possibly get stabbed in front of my wife and child (all it takes is one headcase in the pack), I'd drive over the bikers every time.

    That's why you would get bet up too so.

    He drove over two bikes with guys on them. The weight of that RR, he is lucky he is not in prison now for the man slaughter of two guys. It could have easily gone another way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,060 ✭✭✭Kenny Logins


    That's why you would get bet up too so.

    He drove over two bikes with guys on them. The weight of that RR, he is lucky he is not in prison now for the man slaughter of two guys. It could have easily gone another way.

    Them or me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭ARGINITE


    According to reports the RR driver is in a coma and at least one biker was killed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,060 ✭✭✭Kenny Logins


    ARGINITE wrote: »
    According to reports the RR driver is in a coma and at least one biker was killed.

    Ah, that's a different story - the DM report states the RR driver was the only casualty - from the police report.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭ARGINITE


    I could be wrong as I read that version online from a random blog.

    "Exact details are still coming in, but what we know so far is that one biker was killed after being run over by the SUV during an annual bike gathering. The driver was apparently trying to escape biker intimidation with his wife and child."

    Link


  • Registered Users Posts: 347 ✭✭Wexfordian


    ARGINITE wrote: »
    According to reports the RR driver is in a coma and at least one biker was killed.

    According to the Daily Mail article, the cops have flatly denied anyone was killed, and the driver has lacerations.

    However I'd love to know what happened just prior, because the bikers orchestrated the stop. The bikes in front are stopping even as the RR nudges the bike that brake tests him, then they surround the RR. I'd say that he was probably in a certain amount of fear (justified or not) that they were going to as wotzgoingon puts it "drag him out of the RR and kicked the **** into him". Proportional? Hard to say, depends on what is being said to him, whether there were actually guys on the bikes in front of him, how much danger he felt his family was in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭ARGINITE


    Edit looks like the DailyMail was right no one but the drivers of the RR was injured.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,060 ✭✭✭Kenny Logins


    Wexfordian wrote: »
    According to the Daily Mail article, the cops have flatly denied anyone was killed, and the driver has lacerations.

    However I'd love to know what happened just prior, because the bikers orchestrated the stop. The bikes in front are stopping even as the RR nudges the bike that brake tests him, then they surround the RR. I'd say that he was probably in a certain amount of fear (justified or not) that they were going to as wotzgoingon puts it "drag him out of the RR and kicked the **** into him". Proportional? Hard to say, depends on what is being said to him, whether there were actually guys on the bikes in front of him, how much danger he felt his family was in.

    Driver watching every angle for bikers and bumped one? Easily done when you have them coming from all directions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,063 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    tossy wrote: »
    There is a right way and a wrong way to deal with things,those Bikers need a lesson in the difference between right and wrong. Smashing the windows of a range rover with a kid inside is a disgrace no matter what he did wrong.

    Smashing the windows of a range rover with kids inside is nothing comparing to running over few people.
    Imagine you are riding bikes with your friend, and some maniac runs over few of you. Would you just let him go?

    They had to stop him some way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭ARGINITE


    CiniO wrote: »
    Smashing the windows of a range rover with kids inside is nothing comparing to running over few people.
    Imagine you are riding bikes with your friend, and some maniac runs over few of you. Would you just let him go?

    They had to stop him some way.

    The bikers started damaging the RR when the drivers stopped the first time BEFORE the RR drove off and over their bikes only.

    Also I was wrong the only one that was injured in the incident was the RR driver.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 347 ✭✭Wexfordian


    Driver watching every angle for bikers and bumped one? Easily done when you have them coming from all directions.

    I'd entirely agree with that, and in fact I think he did quite well at that point considering the amount he was having to watch at the same time. But that motorcyclist was intent on stopping the RR, as I say when the RR bumps the bike, the other motorcyclist ahead of him are already slowing to a halt.

    But by prior I mean before the start of the video. The biker he eventually bumps is engaged in verbals with him prior to the stop.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,396 ✭✭✭✭kaimera


    ****ing prat of a driver.

    Them or me was it?

    Real ****ing big of him in his RR v a bike.

    "possibly get stabbed"?

    gtfo. Way to stereotype.

    and the driver was a middle lane hogger :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,060 ✭✭✭Kenny Logins


    Wexfordian wrote: »
    I'd entirely agree with that, and in fact I think he did quite well at that point considering the amount he was having to watch at the same time. But that motorcyclist was intent on stopping the RR, as I say when the RR bumps the bike, the other motorcyclist ahead of him are already slowing to a halt.

    But by prior I mean before the start of the video. The biker he eventually bumps is engaged in verbals with him prior to the stop.

    That's what is reported to have happened, he bumped one and others responded by damaging the car.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,590 ✭✭✭tossy


    CiniO wrote: »
    Smashing the windows of a range rover with kids inside is nothing comparing to running over few people.
    Imagine you are riding bikes with your friend, and some maniac runs over few of you. Would you just let him go?

    They had to stop him some way.

    So you are saying they are justified? A few of them seemed to be wearing helmet cams so it should have all been caught on video. Just go to the police and the Range rover driver will be dealt with. There is no justification for what they did they should all be charged with something - Mob mentality gone wrong.

    That's all i'm going to say on it as you are king of the tit for tat debates on boards and i haven't got the time in my day to get drawn into one. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,063 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    ARGINITE wrote: »
    The bikers started damaging the RR when the drivers stopped the first time BEFORE the RR drove off and over their bikes only.

    Also I was wrong the only one that was injured in the incident was the RR driver.

    Looks like different sources tell different stories.

    Anyway - if that's true that he just accidentally hit one motorbiker, and then crowd of other bikers run towards him to destroy his vehicle - then indeed it was difficult situation for him to stop or run away.
    But running away by running over some biker, was utterly stupid.
    He should have known he had no chance to run away anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,060 ✭✭✭Kenny Logins


    kaimera wrote: »
    ****ing prat.

    Them or me was it?

    Real ****ing big of him in his RR v a bike.

    "possibly get stabbed"?

    gtfo. Way to stereotype.

    and the driver was a middle lane hogger :)

    It's not Vs. a bike though, it's Vs. an angry mob. Doesn't matter if they're bikers or joggers.

    BTW, stereotype? Isn't that the whole point of wearing a back patch or 'kutte', or Battle Jacket? To display membership of a club with a reputation for violence? :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,590 ✭✭✭tossy


    I hope they dragged him out of the RR and kicked the **** into him, he drove over two bikes with lads on them.
    That's why you would get bet up too so.

    He drove over two bikes with guys on them. The weight of that RR, he is lucky he is not in prison now for the man slaughter of two guys. It could have easily gone another way.

    Possibly the stupidest/most immature posts i've read this week,are you 12 with posters of gixxers on your wall?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,396 ✭✭✭✭kaimera


    It's not Vs. a bike though, it's Vs. an angry mob. Doesn't matter if they're bikers or joggers.

    BTW, stereotype? Isn't that the whole point of wearing a back patch or 'kutte', or Battle Jacket? To display membership of a club with a reputation for violence? :pac:
    Wasn't an angry mob until the driver hit the bike and then drove over x of them.

    ha, perhaps, wasn't into bike clubs :)

    To be fair, it did look like the bike brake checked the driver so the video is prolly misleading


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,180 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    Near the start of that video one motorcyclist pulls in front of that three-ton behemoth and brakes to within centimeters of the bumper. A dog with a mallet up his furken hole knows enough to stay away from large wagons like that and give them their space on the road. Do I think the Rangie driver should have floored it and rolled over one or more of those lunatics? No, I don't. But I also think there's such a thing as looking for it, and I think that man was terrified at that stage.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,060 ✭✭✭Kenny Logins


    kaimera wrote: »
    Wasn't an angry mob until the driver hit the bike and then drove over x of them.


    I presume that was after he had bumped one, and others began damaging his car?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,180 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    I presume that was after he had bumped one, and others began damaging his car?

    As fas as I can see, that was after they had swarmed all over the place with the same regard for lane discipline as epileptic monkeys, and then pulled this ridiculous, childish "brake-test" bull****, presumably to provoke an incident and then go all "Mad Max" to show how hard they are.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,396 ✭✭✭✭kaimera


    I presume that was after he had bumped one, and others began damaging his car?
    Like you said, after he hit one.

    If the RR was in the correct lane the bikes wouldn't have been swarming around, they would have been keeping left when overtaking

    Pretty **** that the uploader cherry picked what part of the video to upload.

    Seeing it all would clear up a lot and if it shows the bikers as the instigators, then bastards. First thing you learn, you are more vulnerable than a car...specially a RR


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,180 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    kaimera wrote: »
    Like you said, after he hit one.

    If the RR was in the correct lane the bikes wouldn't have been swarming around, they would have been keeping left when overtaking

    They could have been overtaking to the left and to the right, while maintaining sensible road positions and not acting like a bunch of apes looking for a fight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,982 ✭✭✭Caliden


    If I was in that situation with my family in the Range Rover I would've done the same thing.

    50+ bikers surround your SUV and one decides to brake check you? Then they surround the SUV where they more than likely tried to gain entry to the vehicle (they tried it again at the 5 minute mark). There would be no way in hell I would wait around to find out what they would do. Get the fúck out of there no matter what.


    This isn't the first video I've seen where a large gang of bikers have turned vigilante after intimidating drivers into a reaction while on the road.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,252 ✭✭✭Sterling Archer


    From what i can see, for the very selectively clip on youtube, it appears that the Bikes swarmed the RR, i'd guess that the bikes swarmed the RR in normal driving conditions and the RR attempted to move clear of the bikes,
    Then the biker in the blue jeans seems to be annoyed with the RR and brake tests him (which reminds me of the biker on the motorway) which a stupid idea, and the RR inevitably hits the biker knocking him, to which the bikers react aggressively,
    Now smashing through the bikers probably wasn't the best idea but not pulling away or calling the cops was a bigger mistake,

    It's pretty saddening to see the bikers behavior, but it only takes a few bad eggs to get everyone tared with the same brush, most of those bikers probably would have talked it out with the RR driver but the sheer numbers of bikers probably intimidated the driver into a panic, and the combination of an angry biker approaching you and your family would make you muscle memory kick in and floor it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,532 ✭✭✭JohnBoy26


    CiniO wrote: »
    Smashing the windows of a range rover with kids inside is nothing comparing to running over few people.
    Imagine you are riding bikes with your friend, and some maniac runs over few of you. Would you just let him go?

    They had to stop him some way.
    They did not have to stop him at all though. A simple 911 call would of been the right thing to do.

    Also(not siding with anyone) but Imo the bikers driving was atrocious blocking up all the road and stopping in places where they shouldn't be stopped.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,982 ✭✭✭Caliden


    Shane_ef wrote: »
    From what i can see, for the very selectively clip on youtube, it appears that the Bikes swarmed have the RR, i'd guess that the bikes swarmed the RR in normal driving and the RR attempted to move clear of the bikes,
    Then the biker in the blue jeans seems to be annoyed with the RR and brake tests him (which reminds me of the biker on the motorway) which a stupid idea, and the RR inevitably hits the biker knocking him, to which the bikers react aggressively,
    Now smashing through the bikers probably wasn't the best idea but not pulling away or calling the cops was a bigger mistake,

    It's pretty saddening to see the bikers behavior, but it only takes a few bad eggs to get everyone tared with the same brush, most of those bikers probably would have talked it out with the RR driver but the sheer numbers of bikers probably intimidated the driver into a panic, and the combination of an angry biker approaching you and your family would make you muscle memory kick in and floor it.


    Basic fight or flight response and no sane person is going to fight 50 bikers surrounding your car. Definitely could've been handled better by the bikers by involving the police instead of getting justice themselves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,063 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    JohnBoy26 wrote: »
    They did not have to stop him at all though. A simple 911 call would of been the right thing to do.

    Also(not siding with anyone) but Imo the bikers driving was atrocious blocking up all the road and stopping in places where they shouldn't be stopped.

    Most likely the car driver would have end up much better as well if he didn't start running away.
    As you see his running away caused him to run over some people and he eventually ended up anyway with broken car windows and in hospital.
    Could have finished much better for him if he just stopped after tipping the biker in the first place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,982 ✭✭✭Caliden


    CiniO wrote: »
    Most likely the car driver would have end up much better as well if he didn't start running away.
    As you see his running away caused him to run over some people and he eventually ended up anyway with broken car windows and in hospital.
    Could have finished much better for him if he just stopped after tipping the biker in the first place.

    Highly doubt that. The bikers were goading him by surrounding the car initially.

    What authority do they have to surround a car on the freeway to "talk" to the driver. I use the word talk loosely because I highly doubt that's all that happened before he tried fleeing.

    He's lucky he's not dead which could easily have happened if it occurred on an empty freeway and not a city centre where there are independent witnesses.


  • Registered Users Posts: 347 ✭✭Wexfordian


    CiniO wrote: »
    Could have finished much better for him if he just stopped after tipping the biker in the first place.

    He did stop. Then he got surrounded by a large group of bikers.


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