Irish Promotions Thread Please read post 1 (*Mod Warning Post #3947)

LineOfBeauty · 13-03-2020 10:45am

This one was particularly painful because ordinarily you'd share the cost of outside talent with other promotions using that talent during their time in Europe. Mox and Pac were only working OTT so it's OTT that takes on the burden of the costs on its own.

brianblaze · 13-03-2020 11:27am

I see the goal went from 4k to 6k there overnight on the gofundme and it's nearly there.

Here's a question. Why isn't Alexander Dean wrestling for OTT? He's unreal and really coming into his own recently?

Snakeblood · 13-03-2020 12:25pm

Sirsok wrote: »

Just for some perspective to run Wrestlecon , which was two shows in the Tivoli with Abyss, Xpac and Chris Hero, Joe said before he needed to take out a 20k loan. And if any thing was to happen to Tivoli, say it flooded, he would lose all that money.

There was the Q+A also where Joe said that if the first Stadium show wasn't a success they were going to fold.

Snakeblood · 13-03-2020 12:26pm

brianblaze wrote: »

I see the goal went from 4k to 6k there overnight on the gofundme and it's nearly there.

Here's a question. Why isn't Alexander Dean wrestling for OTT? He's unreal and really coming into his own recently?

I think he was booking courage and Joe did not like Courage running dublin, so there was a rule that if you worked Courage you'd never work OTT. I think that's relaxed with J Money and others though.

montyrebel · 13-03-2020 12:38pm

Sirsok wrote: »

Just for some perspective to run Wrestlecon , which was two shows in the Tivoli with Abyss, Xpac and Chris Hero, Joe said before he needed to take out a 20k loan. And if any thing was to happen to Tivoli, say it flooded, he would lose all that money.

is he not insured? ****ty way to run a business if he isnt

hynesie08 · 13-03-2020 12:42pm

montyrebel wrote: »

is he not insured? ****ty way to run a business if he isnt

Insurance isn't magic, if they can figure out a way to get out of paying you, they will. Joe would have all the necessary insurance to run an event, but any out of pocket expenses wouldn't be covered.

Somedaythefire · 13-03-2020 12:45pm

montyrebel wrote: »

is he not insured? ****ty way to run a business if he isnt

I'm sure he is, but that would cover the price of the venue, if the insurer doesn't somehow find a way to get out. Not what they've paid the likes of Chris Hero to fly over and wrestle.

brianblaze · 13-03-2020 12:53pm

montyrebel wrote: »

is he not insured? ****ty way to run a business if he isnt

I'm insured, I even have loss of earnings insurance which covers force majeure etc, and they're not covering this. Pandemic apparently is totally outside anything covered in any small business insurance package

nasty_crash · 13-03-2020 1:08pm

montyrebel wrote: »

is he not insured? ****ty way to run a business if he isnt

Bit of a meh statement - you could have the best of insurance and they will still find ways to get out of paying. Travel insurance companies are not paying out on disruption due to COVID-19..... Im sure they have insurance but certain things may be excluded and wont cover everything.

I've never been to an event of OTT but obviously am familar with the company and had planned on heading to some of the events this year! Think its vital that people support it as much as possible! Think of Mox, Pac, Mustache Mountain & Toni Storm - all on WWE/AEW TV in the last 2 months and they are bringing them over.

Give them all the help we can imo

Omackeral · 13-03-2020 1:11pm

Knew Tyler Bate would find another reason to no-show.

SketchyPrince · 13-03-2020 1:18pm

the eternal struggler wrote: »

Seriously? Think alone of how much it would cost to fly in Jon Moxley. Former WWE champion, he's 100% on a first class flight, he lives in Vegas, imagine how much money that flight cost? Then add up the flights of other wrestlers he's bringing in. Even Dan Barry's flight from New York would've cost upwards of 500 euro. Then there's the building rental, advertising etc.

Okay I won't ask any questions, thanks pal.

the eternal struggler · 13-03-2020 1:36pm

brianblaze wrote: »

Here's a question. Why isn't Alexander Dean wrestling for OTT? He's unreal and really coming into his own recently?

I'd say the tiniest bit of digging on Twitter etc would answer that question for you.

Insect Overlord · 13-03-2020 4:30pm

Omackeral wrote: »

Knew Tyler Bate would find another reason to no-show.

This deserves more thanks.

ThePott · 14-03-2020 10:19pm

OTT have put Scrappermania V up for free and people have been doing a live tweet-along since 8pm.

https://overthetopwrestling.pivotshare.com/media/over-the-top-wrestling-presents-scrappermania-5/85078/feature?t=0

B.A._Baracus · 15-03-2020 4:50am

I dunno about the whole OTT asking for 6k.
If I were to donate 100 euro to them right now... On one hand it could be classed as me supporting OTT.
On the other hand if I had problems next month paying my electricity bill would OTT help me out? Would OTT give me the same 100? They wouldn't. Let's be honest. It's a business.

Joe puts on these shows to make money and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

I pay for virgin media broadband.
I pay for Xbox game pass.
I pay for ea access.
I pay for ps now.
I pay for utility bills.
I pay for food.
I pay for Dublin bus.
I pay for rent.
Etc.

These are services and goods I "consume" - it's a business transaction. Nothing more. Nothing less. You wouldn't donate 1 euro more than what you have to towards Dublin bus or your local petrol station etc would you?

Think about how that 6k could have went to people in need like charities etc.

So there for, and I am not saying this to be controversial, mean or stir the pot... But the term "mark" seems to be alive and well within the pro wrestling fan community.

Omackeral · 15-03-2020 9:29am

Except they didn’t ask for it. A fan set up the go fund me.

B.A._Baracus · 15-03-2020 2:43pm

Omackeral wrote: »

Except they didn’t ask for it. A fan set up the go fund me.

They won't refuse it tho

Insect Overlord · 15-03-2020 2:58pm

Anywho!

Aonghus Óg McAnally, Dan Barry and 2 members of Kings of The North liked my tweets and/or retweeted me on Twitter last night, so I'm happy.

showpony1 · 16-03-2020 1:06am

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

I dunno about the whole OTT asking for 6k.
If I were to donate 100 euro to them right now... On one hand it could be classed as me supporting OTT.
On the other hand if I had problems next month paying my electricity bill would OTT help me out? Would OTT give me the same 100? They wouldn't. Let's be honest. It's a business.

Joe puts on these shows to make money and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

I pay for virgin media broadband.
I pay for Xbox game pass.
I pay for ea access.
I pay for ps now.
I pay for utility bills.
I pay for food.
I pay for Dublin bus.
I pay for rent.
Etc.

These are services and goods I "consume" - it's a business transaction. Nothing more. Nothing less. You wouldn't donate 1 euro more than what you have to towards Dublin bus or your local petrol station etc would you?

Think about how that 6k could have went to people in need like charities etc.

So there for, and I am not saying this to be controversial, mean or stir the pot... But the term "mark" seems to be alive and well within the pro wrestling fan community.

Hopefully you can afford to still settle your electricity bill after you pay for all your video gaming.

ciano316 · 16-03-2020 1:15am

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

I dunno about the whole OTT asking for 6k.
If I were to donate 100 euro to them right now... On one hand it could be classed as me supporting OTT.
On the other hand if I had problems next month paying my electricity bill would OTT help me out? Would OTT give me the same 100? They wouldn't. Let's be honest. It's a business.

Joe puts on these shows to make money and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

I pay for virgin media broadband.
I pay for Xbox game pass.
I pay for ea access.
I pay for ps now.
I pay for utility bills.
I pay for food.
I pay for Dublin bus.
I pay for rent.
Etc.

These are services and goods I "consume" - it's a business transaction. Nothing more. Nothing less. You wouldn't donate 1 euro more than what you have to towards Dublin bus or your local petrol station etc would you?

Think about how that 6k could have went to people in need like charities etc.

So there for, and I am not saying this to be controversial, mean or stir the pot... But the term "mark" seems to be alive and well within the pro wrestling fan community.

Why do you feel like this is some sort of mandatory payment that you have to donate to OTT. Very odd post this. Keep your money and let others do what they want with theirs. Its a fan backed Go Fund Me by fans who wanted to do it. You don't need to have any involvement at all.

Omackeral · 16-03-2020 1:20am

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

They won't refuse it tho

Why would they? Why should they? Odd rebuttal.

B.A._Baracus · 16-03-2020 11:03am

showpony1 wrote: »

Hopefully you can afford to still settle your electricity bill after you pay for all your video gaming.

*Runs bridge of nose*
Erm.. ok.

To the other posters who quoted me :

Look, my two cents are, which I am sure won't go down well is that see all the whole supporting OTT with using the refund money to buy merch? Donate to this go fund me? ... It's markish.

OTT is a business.

Like you remember the Perry Saturn video? He's crying. He's homeless. Down on his luck and no where to stay. Man that's a cause to give to.

So OTT had to cancel a show. Millions of businesses around the world have been effected and cancelled things.

As said, I could donate 100 euro to OTT. Heck I could donate 500. But come next month if I have problems paying the rent or bills are OTT going to return that favour?

No. It's a business. That's two cents. If everyone else is allowed to have an opinion of things then I am too. Agree .... Or Disagree. Cool.

But ciano don't say I don't have a right to talk about things. This is a message board. People post their opinions weather right or wrong. Am sure if I looked at your post history I would find so much crap where "you had no right" so don't play that card, ciano.

weareallmarks · 16-03-2020 12:03pm

Lads, donate if you want, dont donate if you dont want to.

simple as. Lets move on. Its getting a bit babyish now.....

Omackeral · 16-03-2020 1:00pm

Markish?

It's called supporting something you like. People enjoy OTT. It gives them joy. It's the highlight of social interaction for a lot of people there. If they want to lend a hand to something that brings them joy, how is that markish? Only in wrestling would you hear that. I'm a member at Bohemian FC. I pay up front for that and it gets me admission to all games and a vote at meetings. Sometimes I donate to fundraisers too because I like the club and get back as much as I put in, maybe more. Bohs is high up on my totem pole. I don't consider myself a mark for doing that. Just a passionate fan who cares. They guys and gals are simply doing the same for OTT.

Lithium93_ · 16-03-2020 1:14pm

Omackeral wrote: »

Markish?

It's called supporting something you like. People enjoy OTT. It gives them joy. It's the highlight of social interaction for a lot of people there. If they want to lend a hand to something that brings them joy, how is that markish? Only in wrestling would you hear that. I'm a member at Bohemian FC. I pay up front for that and it gets me admission to all games and a vote at meetings. Sometimes I donate to fundraisers too because I like the club and get back as much as I put in, maybe more. Bohs is high up on my totem pole. I don't consider myself a mark for doing that. Just a passionate fan who cares. They guys and gals are simply doing the same for OTT.

This could easily apply to everyone on this forum. Just swap out Bohemians and insert X,Y,Z hobby or interest.

SketchyPrince · 16-03-2020 2:08pm

I was saying Boo-OTT

cian68 · 21-03-2020 2:33pm

Anyone get a Scrappermania refund? I realise they are swamped but is it just a matter of waiting or am I meant to apply for one? Can't see where I would do that on eventbrite

Omackeral · 21-03-2020 2:38pm

They’re automatic pal

ThePott · 21-03-2020 2:47pm

Phoenix have got their streaming service up atm
https://phoenixwrasslin.pivotshare.com/

First two shows are up now, there's also some free matches up now too.
Allonsy v Keitel for the inaugural Phoenix Empress title and Armstrongs vs MTH are both free if you wanna check them out.

brianblaze · 21-03-2020 3:01pm

cian68 wrote: »

Anyone get a Scrappermania refund? I realise they are swamped but is it just a matter of waiting or am I meant to apply for one? Can't see where I would do that on eventbrite

All automatic through Eventbrite. They're refunding a lot of events globally now though so will probably take a while

ThePott · 21-03-2020 4:10pm

Lads, we knocked this on the head once already. Let people spend their money however they please, move on.

jface187 · 21-03-2020 5:43pm

No surprise OTT had to cancel there Waterford and next Belfast show. I think they said refunds from OTT will be coming next week, but of course could be longer.

ciano316 · 21-03-2020 6:02pm

jface187 wrote: »

No surprise OTT had to cancel there Waterford and next Belfast show. I think they said refunds from OTT will be coming next week, but of course could be longer.

Might be a long time before we see another OTT show. Supposed to be one day before NXT Dublin. Say both events will be gone as well. Maybe August/September if even before we get a show

thebostoncrab · 21-03-2020 8:47pm

Lads, take it away from the thread. We’d prefer to discuss Irish wrestling, not read you both go tit for tat with each other. Please.

cian68 · 22-03-2020 3:32pm

cian68 wrote: »

Anyone get a Scrappermania refund? I realise they are swamped but is it just a matter of waiting or am I meant to apply for one? Can't see where I would do that on eventbrite

I uh, I got the refund anyway. Cheers lads. I see everything went swimmingly since I asked

Insect Overlord · 22-03-2020 3:35pm

cian68 wrote: »

I uh, I got the refund anyway. Cheers lads. I see everything went swimmingly since I asked

Got mine yesterday as well. Subbed to OTT On Demand last week to get my Irish wrestling fix. Might have a look at the Phoenix stuff soon too.

jaykhunter · 22-03-2020 3:50pm

MOD NOTE: Trolling results in a ban. Good job those not rising to it. Deleting posts and related posts to clean up the thread. Cheers guys

endainoz · 24-03-2020 2:30pm

https://youtu.be/tzYGH__Anjg

Great stuff from OTT. They will be back. Scrappermania 5 was my favorite show of 2019.

Snakeblood · 25-03-2020 5:28pm

cian68 wrote: »

Anyone get a Scrappermania refund? I realise they are swamped but is it just a matter of waiting or am I meant to apply for one? Can't see where I would do that on eventbrite

Mine came in about 2 days ago fwiw

Furious-Red · 25-03-2020 5:43pm

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showpony1 · 26-03-2020 2:10pm

NXT UK Takover Dublin is now October 25th - probably will clash with OTT's Sunday ringside club for their 6th Anniversary weekend.

Furious-Red · 26-03-2020 2:25pm

showpony1 wrote: »

NXT UK Takover Dublin is now October 25th - probably will clash with OTT's Sunday ringside club for their 6th Anniversary weekend.

Unless they do an early show so people could do both?

showpony1 · 26-03-2020 3:01pm

Furious-Red wrote: »

Unless they do an early show so people could do both?

The stadium show the night before and NXT UK on Sunday will be enough for me.

the eternal struggler · 26-03-2020 6:28pm

showpony1 wrote: »

NXT UK Takover Dublin is now October 25th - probably will clash with OTT's Sunday ringside club for their 6th Anniversary weekend.

Not a coincidence when you consider the original date was one day after another OTT show.

showpony1 · 13-04-2020 2:45pm

not much analysis here of the OTT tivoli gems show

Insect Overlord · 13-04-2020 3:04pm

All the analysis was done live on Twitter!

noisenotmusic · 17-04-2020 12:26pm

https://twitter.com/Joey_Cabray/status/1251080245974835201

That really sucks

Insect Overlord · 17-04-2020 12:42pm

noisenotmusic wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Joey_Cabray/status/1251080245974835201

That really sucks

Outrageous decision by the landlord. As was quickly pointed out on Twitter, it's not as if other customers will be queueing up to pay rent on the unit any time soon.

montyrebel · 10-05-2020 6:28pm

so ni company wrespect had a peado working for them as well as stalker callum murray, check out @wrespecttrainee on twitter for details, company needs shut down

Lithium93_ · 10-05-2020 6:46pm

montyrebel wrote: »

so ni company wrespect had a peado working for them as well as stalker callum murray, check out @wrespecttrainee on twitter for details, company needs shut down

Accounts been deleted by the look of things.

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