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I know what you mean, but I'm not to sure that they are working on that kind of stuff. I'm talking simple stat recording stuff that is no great leap in technology. Technology is where I think they would be holding back for the future releases.
Eg. Garmin owned the GPS market for years, I'm not talking golf, just GPS in general, so they have had plenty of time to get the simple stuff right, and it just hasn't happened in their golf section. I've a Garmin for my bike, a Garmin running watch and Garmin Golf GPS. The bike thing I have is class, proper stats, screen info etc. The device is old now and newer versions have included the likes of Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, live tracking (syncing with your phone), colour screens, bigger screens etc. The stats on the computer have improved changed
(matter of opinion) slightly, but with those changes their website gets updated and I get the new stats info even though I'm still using my old device. Running watch is pretty similar, though I wouldn't think it's in the same league as my bike device, but it was a cheaper end of their range.
With the top of the line golf unit I have, the stats are pure muck, useless and pointless and pretty much non-existent. So much so, I wouldn't buy one again. But the unit itself is capable of so much more than the stats it produces, but really is good for nothing other than distance measuring.
I'm not a fan of phone apps, and wouldn't be inclined to use one, but a simple phone app could do everything necessary to give the best of stat tracking. Start there and that could lead onto a physical device, which could improve over future releases.
The is definatley a genuine gap in the market for an all in one product and if that came in the form of an App, I would pay for it, but would much rather an physical unit. Who knows, maybe something worth looking at for people who develop golf software
Can I ask what sort of stats you get from say a Bike Garmin. Am I right in thinking when on the bike you dont have to input anything into the device once your off on your ride?
Am genuinely interested as I would have thought the stats for golf are far more difficult to incorporate easily and automatically into a device that didnt have a similar tracker to Game Golf on each club.0 -
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Can one of you guys tell me if citywest (updated championship course) is on the game golf website. Id love to buy the product but when I bought a gps watch the front 9 around citywest wasn.t up to date. Ive updated the software for the watch so hopefully its working now..will test it at the weekend.
is that an Oxymoron
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had my first round with game golf device yesterday. Its pretty cool once you download all the stuff when you get home. playing for the first time in 4 months off mats and managed 34 points at a windy island gc.
stats were atrocious though, my driving was stink and I reckon if I push those stats up a bit, I'd probably make the tour.
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spacecoyote wrote: »Yeah, as slave says though, off preferred lies & generally more forward tees since I've got it up & running.
Stats may take a hit this weekend, first comp in my new club (castlewarden) & it's strokes from the back tees. Gonna have to get used to tighter drives than I'm used to in grange castle
Good move Space - great set up there.
You know I'm a total sceptic on technology - but always turn
I do understand that - men are men - and their gadgets.
But this game is insidious how it tips away at your brain - "you need this" - " this is the next step" - lol , go out and practice your putting idiot.
Still don't like the touching aspect from a design perspective - and will be bypassed by a clever piece of design.
Anyone like to give an idea - how the stats changed their approach to the game ?
Do we not all know, behind the stats - our true weakness in the game ? Particularly when we are mostly mid to high handicap players ?
I can see how this is important in elite golf. Very.0 -
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For the users, what are the 3 main advantages / things you draw from using it?
I really like the stats from the short game side of things. That seems a very useful tool.
For the rest of the stats, I'm struggling to see how it's much better than a free stats app.
I'm sure I'm missing something, what is it? 0 -
For the users, what are the 3 main advantages / things you draw from using it?
I really like the stats from the short game side of things. That seems a very useful tool.
For the rest of the stats, I'm struggling to see how it's much better than a free stats app.
I'm sure I'm missing something, what is it?
I hated it initially, found it very awkward putting it into my routine and then standing over the ball the 'did I tag it or not' thoughts. And also having to add in shots when you forget to buzz it.
But it's definitely a useful bit of kit. I think the main advantage is it gives you unbiased stats, for instance you might say your putting was bad and think you need to go work on that but looking through your stats it shows that your approach shots were way off and left yourself tougher putts than you should have.
So the best thing for me has been guiding me a lot better on what I need to work on between rounds.0 -
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For the users, what are the 3 main advantages / things you draw from using it?
I really like the stats from the short game side of things. That seems a very useful tool.
For the rest of the stats, I'm struggling to see how it's much better than a free stats app.
I'm sure I'm missing something, what is it?
One benefit I've found from it is that it adds a bit more pressure to just your casual round of golf. If you stupidly or sadly take some pride in your stats it adds a little bit more meaning to that chip or that putt which I think can only be good thing for the days when you have a card in your hand.0 -
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I'm not sure who the product is targeted at ?
but - it is hardly at a casual golfer ? Not sure what a casual golfer is at this stage.
Someone getting up on a launch monitor for this reason - is not a casual golfer. Launch monitors are very difficult to access - and not in natural golf environments. They are very expensive , technically demanding and typically professional expertise is required.
After 10 rounds - you would have good data. Sure we can ask here - how has it changed your game - I admit the response had been muted.
But - there are all sorts of scientific debates about launch monitors - in particular , is a product that gives you your true distance in your conditions - on your ground with true roll and real ball, of better value to you - another days debate.
But - depending on the tolerance (must look up what it is) - +/- 5 % of 150 yards is only 142 to 157.
Also looking at the slope of distance per club (or gaps in distance) - you could see if one club is outside the expected progression .
Yes a 15 yard range if +/- 5 is large - but over 10 rounds of golf - the unusual 8 iron condition will either not make range - or will be exposed to 10 to 15, 8 irons in the normal conditions. The influence of average of normal conditions will eventually win out.
I think it is very good - and will win out over most guys saying - I hit an 8 iron 150 (as they do)
And if your game golf is wrong - with each passing shot your reality will be more and more accurate -
Anyway , your not for turning , but I would use this info well - as I could apply my own + or - tolerance to data - till I felt it was accurate.
Anyway - not a chance I would wear one.
But - IF ? a good argument was to be made for it - good golfers, I mean some lads from say (I will just pick a figure) 14 down. Are still poor in.
a) knowing where a flag is and how long a green is (this will not solve that)
b) knowing how far they hit a club. (this is the best thing I've seen for this)
By the way - I did all above with a GPS - one shot distance feature - but an aspect of gps that is poor - is practice grounds are not mapped.
After all that - you know my position on all this - would love no electronic aid in the game at all. 0 -
FixdePitchmark wrote: »I'm not sure who the product is targeted at ?
but - it is hardly at a casual golfer ? Not sure what a casual golfer is at this stage.
Someone getting up on a launch monitor for this reason - is not a casual golfer. Launch monitors are very difficult to access - and not in natural golf environments. They are very expensive , technically demanding and typically professional expertise is required.
After 10 rounds - you would have good data. Sure we can ask here - how has it changed your game - I admit the response had been muted.
But - there are all sorts of scientific debates about launch monitors - in particular , is a product that gives you your true distance in your conditions - on your ground with true roll and real ball ball of better value to you - another days debate.
But - depending on the tolerance (must look up what it is) - +/- 5 % of 150 yards is only 142 to 157.
Also looking at the slope of distance per club (or gaps in distance) - you could see if one club is outside the expected progression .
Yes a 15 yard range if +/- 5 is large - but over 10 rounds of golf - the unusual 8 iron condition will either not make range - or will be exposed to 10 to 15, 8 irons in the normal conditions. The influence of average of normal conditions will eventually win out.
I think it is very good - and will win out over most guys saying - I hit an 8 iron 150 (as they do)
And if your game golf is wrong - with each passing shot your reality will be more and more accurate -
Anyway , your not for turning , but I would use this info well - as I could apply my own + or - tolerance to data - till I felt it was accurate.
Anyway - not a chance I would wear one.
But - IF ? a good argument was to be made for it - good golfers, I mean some lads from say (I will just pick a figure) 14 down. Are still poor in.
a) knowing where a flag is and how long a green is (this will not solve that)
b) knowing how far they hit a club. (this is the best thing I've seen for this)
By the way - I did all above with a GPS - one shot distance feature - but an aspect of gps that is poor - is practice grounds are not mapped.
After all that - you know my position on all this - would love no electronic aid in the game at all.
Sounds like somebody's turning though
Fully expect to see you all tagged out in the near future :pac:
I quite like gadgets but this one doesn't really interest me. Agree that surely the gps watches should somehow be able to map from one point to another in a field or range so you can work out your own distances.0 -
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