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  • #1602
    mufcboy1999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,970 ✭✭✭mufcboy1999


    Feck it T.I. should be on there for the quality of his verses on Killer Mike and Big Boi's albums.

    his album is worth a listen if your a fan, its his best since paper trail some really good tracks on it.


  • #1603
    Jimmy Iovine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,416 ✭✭✭Jimmy Iovine


    I never really got into him. I tried a few years back. Couldn't find which was his best, and I just gave up. I might give it a listen on a stream and see then.


  • #1604
    mufcboy1999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,970 ✭✭✭mufcboy1999


    id agree with most here but a few are fairly suspect.. no mention of t.i's verse on in the A though. Havnt even listened to drake's verses to comment, he's on the list a few times.

    http://www.complex.com/music/2012/12/2012-year-in-review-the-25-best-guest-verses-of-2012/


  • #1605
    Jimmy Iovine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,416 ✭✭✭Jimmy Iovine


    mufcboy1999 wrote: »
    id agree with most here but a few are fairly suspect.. no mention of t.i's verse on in the A though.

    http://www.complex.com/music/2012/12/2012-year-in-review-the-25-best-guest-verses-of-2012/

    Drake number 1? Ha

    Criminal leaving out T.I.'s verse on 'Big Beast'.

    Had a look at Complex's album of the year there and it's just as bad. Rick Ross is in at 3. Killer Mike is #35 and Xzibit, unsurprisingly, isn't even in the top 50.


  • #1606
    mufcboy1999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,970 ✭✭✭mufcboy1999


    Jimmy Iovine wrote: »

    Drake number 1? Ha

    Criminal leaving out T.I.'s verse on 'Big Beast'.

    Had a look at Complex's album of the year there and it's just as bad. Rick Ross is in at 3. Killer Mike is #35 and Xzibit, unsurprisingly, isn't even in the top 50.

    There nearly as bad as MTV at this stage , I wouldn't be surprised if money influenced some of these decisions/lists.

    I knew that xzibit album would slide under the radar in the midst of more commercially popular artists albums. I know recently Lamar came out and said life is good was the best album released this year, very honest considering his album was deemed the best hip hop album in 20 years by himself.

    Did you hear about a few record labels recently getting stripped of views on YouTube ?


  • #1607
    Jimmy Iovine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,416 ✭✭✭Jimmy Iovine


    mufcboy1999 wrote: »
    Did you hear about a few record labels recently getting stripped of views on YouTube ?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qmxd48mQEr8


  • #1608
    mufcboy1999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,970 ✭✭✭mufcboy1999


    http://m.complex.com/music/2012/12/youtube-strips-major-record-labels-of-over-two-billion-fake-views

    I'm sure there are a few rappers linked with these labels.

    There's certain rappers out there imo who are industry made, portrayed as big, popular, relevant and the truth is there not as popular as their made out to be. These lists that are created, it really wouldn't surprise me if they were influenced by labels via money etc.


  • #1609
    Jimmy Iovine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,416 ✭✭✭Jimmy Iovine


    mufcboy1999 wrote: »
    http://m.complex.com/music/2012/12/youtube-strips-major-record-labels-of-over-two-billion-fake-views

    I'm sure there are a few rappers linked with these labels.

    There's certain rappers out there imo who are industry made, portrayed as big, popular, relevant and the truth is there not as popular as their made out to be. These lists that are created, it really wouldn't surprise me if they were influenced by labels via money etc.

    Interesting. One artist not affiliated with any of those labels is Talib Kweli anyway.
    Talib Kweli Greene ‏@TalibKweli
    In the wake of @youtube removing billions of fraudulent views from major label artists, I am proud that my fans/views are authentic. 1 love!


  • #1610
    mufcboy1999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,970 ✭✭✭mufcboy1999


    say what you want about this fella but his interviews are hilarious.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prNsPfzY2xU


    he's landed his first movie roll :D "kony montana" ... cassidy is in it too, indie film with a low budget but it looks funny.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3l0Om3TipRA


  • #1611
    Andy_rse
    Registered Users Posts: 1,132 ✭✭✭Andy_rse


    On the topic of youtube views, I've seen this on youtube for the last while as a featured video, I assumed it was some Kreayshawn type sh*t and ignored it (as you do)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JELwIujC5-U


    But today I decided to click on it and its actually pretty good and looked through the rest of the uploaders videos which I assume is the record label. This video has near 3 million views but none of the others by the same artist or the other artists have even close to that. Around 300,000 is the highest I seen. So is that paid for views? Is it solely cos its a featured video? In which case how does one become a featured video? money? popularity?

    Then I thought maybe the track was used in a tv show or film but it doesn't seem like that kinda song.

    I just found it odd that that one track had so many views compared to the other stuff.

    Theres some decent stuff on that channel btw!


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  • #1612
    TheBza
    Closed Accounts Posts: 709 ✭✭✭TheBza


    Gavlyns pretty good, so are the majority of the Organized Threat, the label she's with.



    Poetic Death released his latest album that songs taken from the other day, free download as well if your interested. Its not bad, specially for the price!

    Heres the link for the album.

    http://poeticdeath.bandcamp.com/album/von-poe-vii


  • #1613
    Andy_rse
    Registered Users Posts: 1,132 ✭✭✭Andy_rse


    Yeah, i checked out some Poetic Death tracks there. Good stuff.


  • #1614
    Jimmy Iovine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,416 ✭✭✭Jimmy Iovine


    What's Sean Price like? I've seen him mentioned around here a good bit. Never bothered with him though. I think I mixed him up with Big Sean and bypassed him.

    What should I start with?


  • #1615
    TheBza
    Closed Accounts Posts: 709 ✭✭✭TheBza


    Jimmy Iovine wrote: »
    What's Sean Price like? I've seen him mentioned around here a good bit. Never bothered with him though. I think I mixed him up with Big Sean and bypassed him.

    What should I start with?

    Sean Price is a member of Heltah Skeltah of the boot camp clik. He's class, Heltah Skeltah and the boot camp clik where much more active as a whole in the 90s, but still are pretty popular but maybe less now. Sean P has a good few solo albums released in the 00s, latest being "Mic Tyson" they're pretty solid, but personally prefer the 90's era, boot camp clik where pretty strong. Heres a few past and present.



    fab 5 where a side group consisted of heltah skeltah and OGC, both part of the group Boot Camp Clik






    If you like these id reccomend checking out more of the groups in the boot camp clik:
    O.G.C (Originoo Gunn Clappaz)
    Smif n Wessun
    Black Moon

    All of the debut albums from the seperate groups in the boot camp clik are classics, couldnt recommend them any more.


  • #1616
    conor.hogan.2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,246 ✭✭✭conor.hogan.2


    I only know him from this.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0okZO3qXGs

    and
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcPRA3a09c8


  • #1617
    Boom_Bap
    Moderators, Music Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,734 Mod ✭✭✭✭Boom_Bap


    Jimmy Iovine wrote: »
    What's Sean Price like? I've seen him mentioned around here a good bit. Never bothered with him though. I think I mixed him up with Big Sean and bypassed him.

    What should I start with?

    Just listen to everything you can find. As The BZA says, start off with the Heltah Skeltah and BCC stuff. You''ll find some gems of groups like OGC and Smif N Wessun as well.

    He also released an excellent album last year with Black Milk and Guilty Simpson called Random Axe.

    You are in for a treat with all this unheard classic music to listen to.

    Sean P also realeased a few mixtapes and an album this year called Mic Tyson. The album was a bit of a letdown, but with your fresh ears you might like it.


  • #1618
    Jimmy Iovine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,416 ✭✭✭Jimmy Iovine


    I'll try and find some of his music on Spotify and listen to it. Might help me get through my essay. Cheers.


  • #1619
    TheBza
    Closed Accounts Posts: 709 ✭✭✭TheBza


    "SHAUN CARTER IS NICE BUT SEAN P IS THE BEST!!!"


  • #1620
    PrettyBoy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,213 ✭✭✭PrettyBoy


    Complex list the 50 best guest verses of all time

    http://www.complex.com/music/2013/01/the-50-best-guest-verses-of-all-time/


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  • #1621
    Jimmy Iovine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,416 ✭✭✭Jimmy Iovine


    Pretty solid list, for once. Can't argue with too many of the choices at the top. Glad to see AZ get a mention. Snoop was a good choice as number 1.

    Complex must have a hard on for Drake though. Is his verse on 'Stay Schemin'' really better than 50 Cent on 'Hate It or Love It'? Or Biggie on 'Brooklyn's Finest'? Hell naw. The chap shouldn't be within a donkey's roar of this list.

    Thought Raekwon's verse on '260' would get a mention. That's one of my favourites. "Two hours later, schemin' like DeNiro in Casino.
    Son better have more coke than Al Pacino..."

    Having said that I'm very happy to see his verse from 'Skew It on the Bar-B' made it. I played that about 100 times in the car over the summer just to hear his verse.


  • #1622
    Bobby Baccala
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,342 ✭✭✭Bobby Baccala


    Wasn't mad about that list, nicki minaj and drake and the likes shouldn't have been on it at all.

    Was happy bustas verse on scenario made it on.

    Was not impressed by them leaving out Slick Ricks verse on Auditorium by Mos Def, one of the greatest verses of all time imo


  • #1623
    Jimmy Iovine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,416 ✭✭✭Jimmy Iovine


    P4DDY2K11 wrote: »
    Wasn't mad about that list, nicki minaj and drake and the likes shouldn't have been on it at all.

    Was happy bustas verse on scenario made it on.

    Was not impressed by them leaving out Slick Ricks verse on Auditorium by Mos Def, one of the greatest verses of all time imo

    Compared to their guest list for 2012 it's a very good list.


  • #1624
    Mr. Rager
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,958 ✭✭✭Mr. Rager


    IIRC two good verses in fairness from Drake and Nicki Minaj but not top 50 features of all time good


  • #1625
    mufcboy1999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,970 ✭✭✭mufcboy1999


    im finished with lists of all sorts, there influenced by outsiders imo especially when you see the likes of drake making an all time list, pathetic from complex.


  • #1626
    conor.hogan.2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,246 ✭✭✭conor.hogan.2


    hip-hop-family-tree Comic


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  • #1627
    Boom_Bap
    Moderators, Music Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,734 Mod ✭✭✭✭Boom_Bap


    If you're a fan of Dilated Peoples, check this out.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0i4IDp2tPoY


    Some nice little tid-bits about Alchemist, Kanye and Defari.


  • #1628
    baddebt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 691 ✭✭✭baddebt


    PrettyBoy wrote: »
    Complex list the 50 best guest verses of all time

    http://www.complex.com/music/2013/01/the-50-best-guest-verses-of-all-time/

    some good stuff on it , some crap stuff on tho ,

    I reckon everyone on this board would produce a better list


  • #1629
    conor.hogan.2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,246 ✭✭✭conor.hogan.2


    Anyone know what the craic with Dash is?

    1 - What has he been doing for 8+ years
    2 - With his wiki: blocked currently Old


  • #1630
    Boom_Bap
    Moderators, Music Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,734 Mod ✭✭✭✭Boom_Bap


    He has his another label now, he was behind the Black Roc project a few years ago, and I believe he has Black Roc 2 in the works at the moment.

    As far as I know he is constantly battling legal issues.


  • #1631
    Andy_rse
    Registered Users Posts: 1,132 ✭✭✭Andy_rse


    Boom_Bap wrote: »
    If you're a fan of Dilated Peoples, check this out.



    Some nice little tid-bits about Alchemist, Kanye and Defari.

    Haven't watched it all yet but I like that concept for the interview.


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  • #1632
    Jimmy Iovine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,416 ✭✭✭Jimmy Iovine


    Soon you'll be able to buy a record from J Dilla's own personal collection.


  • #1633
    conor.hogan.2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,246 ✭✭✭conor.hogan.2


    Another documentary but this one looks great.


  • #1634
    Kylo Ren
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,364 ✭✭✭✭Kylo Ren


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJ8Y6n8rvC0


  • #1635
    Bobby Baccala
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,342 ✭✭✭Bobby Baccala


    Rick Ross was shot at and crashed his rolls royce earlier, fat cúnt


  • #1636
    conor.hogan.2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,246 ✭✭✭conor.hogan.2


    He doesn't even drive a Maybach?


  • #1637
    mufcboy1999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,970 ✭✭✭mufcboy1999


    50 taking the p*ss out of him on twitter straight away and sporting crack plays mmg chain in his new video... Several gangs after him and the real Ricky Ross on his tail.

    I guess all that bullsh*t is bound to catch up on him and his clique.


  • #1638
    Boom_Bap
    Moderators, Music Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,734 Mod ✭✭✭✭Boom_Bap


    I've been on a Minneapolis Hip Hop binge mostly today and catching up with some albums that I've missed. This was brought on by listening to the Mixed Blood Majority album and looking at details from thier release party.

    First up was:
    NoBirdSing - Theft of the Commons (http://nobirdsing.bandcamp.com/)

    Excellent album, love the sound of this and fills in my yearning for more Kill The Vultures. Sounds very similar in tone and content which would explain why Crecent Moon and Joe Horton sound so well together on MBM.

    Then i listened to 'Guante & Big Cats - You Better Weaponize' from last year. (http://guanteandbigcats.bandcamp.com/album/you-better-weaponize)

    This blew me away, great album. Wont be everyones cup of tea, but anyone who likes the MPLS sound/Atmosphere/Sage/Doomtree type of music will dig this.


  • #1639
    mufcboy1999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,970 ✭✭✭mufcboy1999


    The game is looking for a g unit re-union again, this time he has started a website with a petition for fans to sign... i really dont know why game and his manager are so desperate to re-unite g unit and get back with 50 but he's having none of it anyway.

    i signed it as its something id like too see but its very doubtful.

    http://gunitreunion.com/
    “You’re not gonna get nothing back together. I decide that. I do what I want to do. I don’t give a f**k what they talking about on a blog post. Every time there was nothing going on [Game] said “**** you, 50,” to generate some sort of new interest. But now that doesn’t work anymore. So you gotta figure out a new way to do it. And now it’s saying, ‘We’ll get G-Unit back together!’”

    http://www.diversehiphop.com/blog/2013/02/50-cent-rejects-games-online-petition-for-a-g-unit-reunion/


  • #1640
    Andy_rse
    Registered Users Posts: 1,132 ✭✭✭Andy_rse


    Boom_Bap wrote: »
    I've been on a Minneapolis Hip Hop binge mostly today and catching up with some albums that I've missed. This was brought on by listening to the Mixed Blood Majority album and looking at details from thier release party.


    First up was:
    NoBirdSing - Theft of the Commons (http://nobirdsing.bandcamp.com/)

    Excellent album, love the sound of this and fills in my yearning for more Kill The Vultures. Sounds very similar in tone and content which would explain why Crecent Moon and Joe Horton sound so well together on MBM.

    Then i listened to 'Guante & Big Cats - You Better Weaponize' from last year. (http://guanteandbigcats.bandcamp.com/album/you-better-weaponize)

    This blew me away, great album. Wont be everyones cup of tea, but anyone who likes the MPLS sound/Atmosphere/Sage/Doomtree type of music will dig this.

    Minneapolis is definitely where its at for me! Such a wealth of talent in that place.

    Got the Mixed Blood Majority album yesterday and its fantastic!

    Really want to visit MPLS and walk around all the places you hear Slug rap about :D


  • #1641
    Andy_rse
    Registered Users Posts: 1,132 ✭✭✭Andy_rse


    Make it happen!
    395626_10151229859027217_983145348_n.jpg


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  • #1642
    TheBza
    Closed Accounts Posts: 709 ✭✭✭TheBza


    I got this album a while ago, only got around to listening to it now, for all you wu lovers, its class!!





  • #1643
    YesBeware420
    Registered Users Posts: 12 ✭YesBeware420


    The Future of Irish Hip Hop.


  • #1644
    Boom_Bap
    Moderators, Music Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,734 Mod ✭✭✭✭Boom_Bap


    YesBeware420 wrote: »
    The Future of Irish Hip Hop.
    MOD NOTE: You already started a thread on this. Please dont spam the forum


  • #1645
    Boom_Bap
    Moderators, Music Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,734 Mod ✭✭✭✭Boom_Bap


    Nice interview with Oddisee, being interview by Trek Life who Oddisee produces for.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eepJUY2fqJM


  • #1646
    TheBza
    Closed Accounts Posts: 709 ✭✭✭TheBza


    Tim Dog passed away from a seizure brought on by his diabetes. RIP

    http://allhiphop.com/2013/02/14/rapper-tim-dog-dead-from-seizure/


  • #1647
    baddebt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 691 ✭✭✭baddebt


    Amen Bza

    loved his penicillan on wax album ,


  • #1648
    Boom_Bap
    Moderators, Music Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,734 Mod ✭✭✭✭Boom_Bap


    I f*cking love Tim Dogs music. Do Or Die was one of the first CD's I ever bought, I think I bought that and Bootlegs & B-Sides by Ice Cube as my first CD purchases.
    I was amazed by that album and then started to check out his other music. And what really annoyed me was that I heard all NWA and Death Row beefing with Tim, but there was no internet back then to look up what the beef was all about.
    As a kid that liked to sway with an allegance, I had no idea what to do back then and who to side with.

    But, aside from his awesome music, f*ck Tim Dog. He was a real pr*ck of a person. Con artist and rip off merchant and hurt so many people and crippled them financially.


  • #1649
    Brendan Filone
    Registered Users Posts: 513 ✭✭✭Brendan Filone


    Boom_Bap wrote: »
    But, aside from his awesome music, f*ck Tim Dog. He was a real pr*ck of a person. Con artist and rip off merchant and hurt so many people and crippled them financially.
    Tim Dog can eat a big fat dick :pac:


  • #1650
    TheBza
    Closed Accounts Posts: 709 ✭✭✭TheBza


    Big L's anniversary today, Legend.



    BIG L REST IN PEACE!!!


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  • #1651
    Jimmy Iovine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,416 ✭✭✭Jimmy Iovine


    Lil Wayne has supposedly claimed that he's the new Tupac. He must have been sipping some syrup when he said it.

    My feeling on it is summed up perfectly by the best rapper to have ever graced this forum, Thesis.

    http://thedrop.fm/lil-wayne-says-hes-the-new-tupac-disses-nba/
    This fool Lil Wayne really said he's not 2pac, he's the NEW Pac.......Yea homey, and I'm not Jesus Christ, I'm THESIS Christ......DaFuq outta here you silly ass fool!!!!


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