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Team Value

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,193 ✭✭✭✭Scorpion Sting


    FHFC wrote: »
    True. I'm ashamed to admit I actually looked at the players FFFix is predicting to rise today and tomorrow and cross checked on a piece of paper which rises would gain me resale value. :eek:

    Somebody organise an intervention ASAP please!!

    Now that's dedication. :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,264 ✭✭✭✭manual_man


    103.3 resale, despite being Kunless. a number of my charges on the rise, giddyup ya beauts


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,274 ✭✭✭✭FHFC


    jebforever wrote: »
    Now that's dedication. :P

    It messed up. In fairness I was quite bored in work at the time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,338 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    FHFC wrote: »
    True. I'm ashamed to admit I actually looked at the players FFFix is predicting to rise today and tomorrow and cross checked on a piece of paper which rises would gain me resale value. :eek:

    Somebody organise an intervention ASAP please!!

    I think you've got what is (not so) commonly referred to as Postman Aguero Stress: When you find anything possible to take your mind of the horror show that is the reality of what we did.

    I cleaned out the shed this evening... The missus has been asking (giving out to) me to do it for months. This evening it was done. Couldn't handle my actions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,274 ✭✭✭✭FHFC


    PARlance wrote: »
    I think you've got what is (not so) commonly referred to as Postman Aguero Stress: When you find anything possible to take your mind of the horror show that is the reality of what we did.

    I cleaned out the shed this evening... The missus has been asking (giving out to) me to do it for months. This evening it was done. Couldn't handle my actions.

    My mammy says I'm not allowed to talk to you any more.....


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,224 ✭✭✭✭SantryRed


    Team value is now 105m with 103m resale value.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,400 ✭✭✭TacT


    104.2 with a resale of 102.2 and I need to address this next season, not making enough team value in the first half of the season is gnawing at me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,193 ✭✭✭✭Scorpion Sting


    105.5m Team Value, 102.8 Resale


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,685 ✭✭✭✭wonski


    105.4m + 1.2m in the bank. 103.3 resale value.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,656 ✭✭✭Western Pomise


    how can you see your resale value quickly?....or do you have to remember how much you bought lads for etc and work out their current value and diff divided by two?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,193 ✭✭✭✭Scorpion Sting


    how can you see your resale value quickly?....or do you have to remember how much you bought lads for etc and work out their current value and diff divided by two?

    On the transfers page where your team is you click the yellow X box on each player and that will give you the resale value.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,264 ✭✭✭✭manual_man


    how can you see your resale value quickly?....or do you have to remember how much you bought lads for etc and work out their current value and diff divided by two?

    Easiest way is to go to your transfers page, and click x on all of your squad without actually transferring them out. Unless you fancy a -56 hit :) You'll see the resale value in the box above your team


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    manual_man wrote: »
    Easiest way is to go to your transfers page, and click x on all of your squad without actually transferring them out. Unless you fancy a -56 hit :) You'll see the resale value in the box above your team

    Or Just click 'Data view' above the team in The transfer window and you will see the selling price 'SP' of all the players and add them up.

    I have a team value of 104.7 and a resale of 102.5. Disappointing, I usually have a higher resale value but my overall position is higher than it has been at this time of the year.
    Team value might cost me in the 2nd half of the season though :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,274 ✭✭✭✭FHFC


    I'm always banging on about it, but I'm not on commission I swear, but Differential FPL (Android) just shows you your resale (as well as your total and bank values) at the bottom of the selection page.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,589 ✭✭✭patmac


    Interesting TV 103.5 and resale value 101.6. Fabregas has climbed from 9.0m to 9.8m since I bought him I wonder who has increased in price the most?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,193 ✭✭✭✭Scorpion Sting


    patmac wrote: »
    Interesting TV 103.5 and resale value 101.6. Fabregas has climbed from 9.0m to 9.8m since I bought him I wonder who has increased in price the most?

    Siggy and Aguero have both went up by .9m


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,274 ✭✭✭✭FHFC


    jebforever wrote: »
    Siggy and Aguero have both went up by .9m

    Pelle went up 1.0 at his peak. Banked 0.5 on him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,554 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    105.4

    102.6 resale


  • Registered Users Posts: 230 ✭✭Big Borg


    Can someone explain why the powers-that-be keep a discrepancy between current market value and resale value?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,554 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    Big Borg wrote: »
    Can someone explain why the powers-that-be keep a discrepancy between current market value and resale value?

    To lessen the economic side of the game I think. Could you imagine wildcard week on here if every .1 was kept, and you could switch as much as you wanted because you wouldn't lose value anyway.

    You'd probably be going into January after the 2nd wildcard literally able to sign the most expensive team possible, and the only restriction would be the 3 players per team rule. Not too attractive a prospect.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,685 ✭✭✭✭wonski


    Big Borg wrote: »
    Can someone explain why the powers-that-be keep a discrepancy between current market value and resale value?

    If you paid for a player 10m and his current value is 11m you will sell him for 10.5m.

    You only get back half of the rise rounded up to the nearest 0.1 - eg. if your player is now 11.1 you will still get "only" 10.5 when selling.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,262 ✭✭✭iroced


    wonski wrote: »
    You only get back half of the rise rounded up to the nearest 0.1 - eg. if your player is now 11.1 you will still get "only" 10.5 when selling.
    Just an off-topic typical non-english-speaking-native question. Is it not rounded down then?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,685 ✭✭✭✭wonski


    iroced wrote: »
    Just an off-topic typical non-english-speaking-native question. Is it not rounded down then?

    Correct. Let's wait for a native english speaker to confirm.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,656 ✭✭✭Western Pomise


    Bloody well hope I'm working it out arseways as
    Team Value is 101.9m
    In the bank 4.2m
    Yet resale only adding up to 99m??

    Could it be that low?....have likes of Fabregas since he was 9m, he has made .4m so for me.?... For eg.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,417 Mod ✭✭✭✭F1ngers


    Bloody well hope I'm working it out arseways as
    Team Value is 101.9m
    In the bank 4.2m
    Yet resale only adding up to 99m??

    Could it be that low?....have likes of Fabregas since he was 9m, he has made .4m so for me.?... For eg.

    Are you getting that from the Differential app?
    If so, add the 4.2 to the resale value.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,553 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    Team Value of 104.7 but real value of 102.2

    Pretty average but I'll suffer in the 2nd half of the season I think if I dont get another million or 2 into the team.

    What websites are accurate for price rises these days?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,262 ✭✭✭iroced


    Dempsey wrote: »
    Team Value of 104.7 but real value of 102.2

    Pretty average but I'll suffer in the 2nd half of the season I think if I dont get another million or 2 into the team.

    What websites are accurate for price rises these days?
    Fantasy Football Fix and FPL stats are getting close to full accuracy.

    Fiso is not too bad but their price drops predictions are very messy since they have tons of players hanging there for ages and never dropping. But the ones who actually drop are generally predicted too.

    The only one to forget about is totalfpl.

    Personally I mainly check FFF and when I want to be sure I crosscheck with fpls and fiso. But if you're afraid of being caught by a precious £0.1m I'm afraid this year you have to go for it and forget about the predictions sites since there's everyweek a player who drops/rises without even being close to it...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,274 ✭✭✭✭FHFC


    How are we looking coming into wildcard?

    108.2
    Resale 105.3

    Remains to be seen if it's of any significant advantage with so many cheap strikers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,991 ✭✭✭sword1


    106.1 /103.6 it will be an advantage when aguero is back and expensive defence is going well at the moment, I would think most have money in bank at moment though as it takes time to move from forward to defence and back again


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,747 ✭✭✭Ziegler1988


    TV: 106.1m
    Resale: 103.8m

    Mannone continues to kill me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,554 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    TV: 106.8
    Resale: 104.0


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 921 ✭✭✭Shaque attack


    TV: 106.3
    Resale: 104

    I've been caught with a few value drops, not getting giroud out because I was in the pub irks me, but I think this time last year my TV would have been around 102


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,262 ✭✭✭iroced


    FHFC wrote: »
    How are we looking coming into wildcard?

    108.2
    Resale 105.3

    Remains to be seen if it's of any significant advantage with so many cheap strikers.
    Still about £1m shier than you :P

    £107.2m
    Resale £104.4m


    It does offer a significant advantage at least by giving you more flexibility regarding your transfer options. For example you were able to get RVP in your team without depleting it elsewhere (personally I would have been shy a couple of £0.1m to get him in and be happy with my team overall). In the end this whole team value thing is all about a couple of £0.1m which can make a huge difference (e.g. sorry G1032 to rub salt but you know what I'm talking about :P).

    If I take my own example my high team value allowed me to get Aguero immediately back in my team last year when he was rushed back (for the Cardiff game). Granted he quickly got injured (their next PL game at White Hart Lane) but the day he came back [though it was for a late 30 min cameo) he scored and assisted, combining both times with Yaya whom I was owning too. A ~20 pts gain (a ~10 pts gain over the Yaya owner). I won my cash league by 7 pts last year. Was one of the only one who could afford Aguero at that time. None of my rivals went the Dzeko route back then (we all took it later). I know many counterexamples are valid too. But I particularly remember that story because I gained significantly on my rivals from it last year. And the bottom line is my higher flexibility towards transfers last year was one of the main reason I won my league :cool:.

    Coming back to your team. Your extra £1.0m resale should play in your favour one way or the other in the coming months. We're just at the season HT. Admittedly cheap strikers are doing the job. But City & Chelsea defences racked up the points in the last month. It's just up to you to make the good calls now :P. Elementary, my dear Watson! :pac:.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,685 ✭✭✭✭wonski


    106.8
    104.2 resale


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,747 ✭✭✭Ziegler1988


    I think I'm going to ignore price changes now unless I have the exact cash to make a move. For example, after this GW I would have done Yaya and Bony out straight away so as not to lose resale value. But there's a 10 day gap between GWs so I wouldn't want to risk any injuries.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,274 ✭✭✭✭FHFC


    https://twitter.com/FantasyFootyFix/status/552381582288637952?s=03

    Top 1000 average squad value is 105.7m compared to 101.2 overall.

    Wildcard advantage?

    http://t.co/4OyptQe02s http://t.co/MdAlN774WU


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,554 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    FHFC wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/FantasyFootyFix/status/552381582288637952?s=03

    Top 1000 average squad value is 105.7m compared to 101.2 overall.

    Wildcard advantage?

    http://t.co/4OyptQe02s http://t.co/MdAlN774WU

    I assume that's resell value?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,274 ✭✭✭✭FHFC


    CSF wrote: »
    I assume that's resell value?

    Tweeted them and it's total value including bank.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,554 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    FHFC wrote: »
    Tweeted them and it's total value including bank.
    Wow. Would not have thought I'd be that far ahead of the top 10 average in terms of value from my lowly spot in 120k.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭Swiper the fox


    I wouldn't put too much store on team value, quite a few have probably wrecked their chances of high finishes chasing it and keeping it when the right thing to do was dump, dumping players for a hit when they were due to drop .1 (people are often doing this against their better judgement)
    Rant over from someone with a team value of 104.3:o


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,472 ✭✭✭AdMMM


    107.4 Team Value
    104.4 Resale Value


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,274 ✭✭✭✭FHFC


    CSF wrote: »
    Wow. Would not have thought I'd be that far ahead of the top 10 average in terms of value from my lowly spot in 120k.

    I'm surprised the overall average is soooo low! I said from the start that despite slower price rises, more drops etc that while people watching their team value would not gain as high a figure as before their advantage of the average player would still be as big as, if not even bigger than, last year in relative terms.

    I'm at around 108.4 overall so thats more than 7m more than the overall average above. Resale is 105.6 now. OR 745.

    I think you can chase value without compromising your teams performance, in fact if your team is going well one follows the other, its then just a matter of watching the prices and where necessary risking early transfers. Like bringing in Kane this week early, I knew last week he was my likely transfer this week, and as I do care about value it would just kill me to leave it and pay 0.3 more for him on Friday! If something goes badly wrong injury wise I can live with ending up with a hit the odd time as a result of an early transfer.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,305 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Prodston


    My team value is 104.8, resale 102.9.

    It's crazy low but I haven't made a single transfer all year for value, nor have I moved early in the week all too often. We'll see how it affects me in the 2nd half but I'd say I've lost around 1.0 in actual value due to letting players I own drop.

    I think my good performance so far has had a lot to do with it, as in I feel as if it's ok to let them drop while I'm doing well.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,747 ✭✭✭Ziegler1988


    FHFC wrote: »
    I think you can chase value without compromising your teams performance, in fact if your team is going well one follows the other, its then just a matter of watching the prices and where necessary risking early transfers. Like bringing in Kane this week early, I knew last week he was my likely transfer this week, and as I do care about value it would just kill me to leave it and pay 0.3 more for him on Friday! If something goes badly wrong injury wise I can live with ending up with a hit the odd time as a result of an early transfer.

    I let Kane go up 0.2m since I didn't want to risk injuries. I'll bring him in before his last rise/Bony's next fall. The odds of players getting injured is probably quite low, but I've been playing pretty cautious this season.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    Delighted with the progress on my team value of late.
    Currently at £106.8 with a resale value of £104.1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,554 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    TV 106.9
    RV 104.1


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,262 ✭✭✭iroced


    CSF wrote: »
    I assume that's resell value?

    No offence mate but you mustn't have well thought it over ;). £105.7m resale value is absolutely huge. I mean no one in here (not even FHFC) reaches that. So for that to be an average (even for top 1k) you'd have to expect players with a resale team value above £107m (I'm sure many here don't even reach that with their total value).
    FHFC wrote: »
    I'm surprised the overall average is soooo low! I said from the start that despite slower price rises, more drops etc that while people watching their team value would not gain as high a figure as before their advantage of the average player would still be as big as, if not even bigger than, last year in relative terms.

    I'm at around 108.4 overall so thats more than 7m more than the overall average above. Resale is 105.6 now. OR 745.

    I think you can chase value without compromising your teams performance, in fact if your team is going well one follows the other, its then just a matter of watching the prices and where necessary risking early transfers. Like bringing in Kane this week early, I knew last week he was my likely transfer this week, and as I do care about value it would just kill me to leave it and pay 0.3 more for him on Friday! If something goes badly wrong injury wise I can live with ending up with a hit the odd time as a result of an early transfer.

    I fully agree with your last paragraph but still don't fully with your first :p (the bold part in particular). Last year for GW21, I was at £111.1m total value and £106.9m resale. This year £107.5m TV and £104.6m resale. I doubt the overall average was £2m higher last year since casuals and dead teams don't really follow (if at all) price changes and would have only benefitted from Ramsey & Yaya overall. Most of the other big hitters started to perform when dead teams have already become dead.

    That said, if slightly to mildly reduced, team value will play its part in the coming 3 months and particularly when Aguero & Sturridge will be back. Afterwards it's generally becoming less of an issue (unless there's a late DGW involving all the big guns with all of them on fire -- loads of "ifs" here though...).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,264 ✭✭✭✭manual_man


    TV: 107.4
    RV: 104.9


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,554 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    iroced wrote: »
    No offence mate but you mustn't have well thought it over ;). £105.7m resale value is absolutely huge. I mean no one in here (not even FHFC) reaches that. So for that to be an average (even for top 1k) you'd have to expect players with a resale team value above £107m (I'm sure many here don't even reach that with their total value).
    I'm not in top 100k and I'm only 1.1 less, was thinking that those in the top 1k, have probably had the likes of Clyne, Bertrand, Downing, Fabregas etc from the start, which would account for some difference, but as you said, its still too much.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,969 ✭✭✭✭alchemist33


    Resale value of 104.0, and after the wildcard I'll stop watching it.


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