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Buying a used car in Ireland guide

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  • #2052
    L-M
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    Was thinking the same as Bazz26, that's no "bargain".


  • #2053
    HappieChappie
    Registered Users Posts: 12 ✭HappieChappie


    Maybe mods could add link but on the garda website there is a big thing cars being bought with bogey bank drafts and then sold on for cash. I was reading in the local paper there were four done in Cork over the weekend. Be very wary with private sales at the moment, still better value than a lot dealers but you have to be using the head.


  • #2054
    Mackas_view
    Closed Accounts Posts: 298 ✭✭Mackas_view


    Can anyone tell me what PD stands for as in I'm looking at a Vw passat 2002 and it's 1.9TDi PD SE


  • #2055
    witless_steve
    Registered Users Posts: 246 ✭✭witless_steve


    PD standing for Pumpe-D�se which, loosely translated from the German, means Unit Injector.

    http://www.topgear.com/uk/volkswagen/passat/road-test/1.9-tdi


  • #2056
    Mackas_view
    Closed Accounts Posts: 298 ✭✭Mackas_view


    Thanks so it can only be a good thing. Almost about to seal the deal for this car hopefully. 2002 1.9tdi se 130bhp 130000 miles. Hopefully it passes my mechanics inspection tomorrow but have already checked out the cars history from contactin previous owners so I'm in high hopes :-)


  • #2057
    bazz26
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,289 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    It's just VW speak for their diesel fuel injection system at the time when every other manufacturer was moving to common rail diesel injectors.


  • #2058
    sebanwo
    Registered Users Posts: 12 ✭sebanwo


    HI guys Can I sell car which I bought 2 months ago? is there any period before resell car? Sorry but i was looking everywhere and cant find it and heard that can do only after 3 months


  • #2059
    bazz26
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,289 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Should be no problem to sell it. The only reason you could not sell it for a certain period of time is if you imported the car from another country where you were resident and qualified for VRT exemption.


  • #2060
    L-M
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    You can sell it a day after you bought it as long as you have the logbook and didn't avail of free vrt as per Bazz26s post.


  • #2061
    witless_steve
    Registered Users Posts: 246 ✭✭witless_steve


    Though you might want a reason to give perspective buyers. I see a car being sold after 2 months it does seem very suspicious. I'd be worried you found something seriously wrong.


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  • #2062
    stuba
    Registered Users Posts: 487 ✭✭stuba


    http://www.tynanautos.ie/viewanad.php?ad_id=1077670&r=

    Anyone dealt with Tynan autos before? Or spot anything that should make me wary of this? Bar the usual DPF and making sure theres a properly documented service history?


  • #2063
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,477 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    I think they've only been mentioned here before

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=88884705

    There is a user here (niman) selling a 2010 black focus like that with half the mileage


  • #2064
    NIMAN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,986 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    That would have more gadgets than mine to be fair, but I do have genuine mileage currently at 53500.


  • #2065
    Mackas_view
    Closed Accounts Posts: 298 ✭✭Mackas_view


    Can anyone please recommend who they think would be the Best insurance company for first insurance under own name on provisional license? Also the car is an 02 and worry little more that 2k so am I better going fully comprehensive or third party?

    Thank you


  • #2066
    bazz26
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,289 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    There is no one best insurance company for everyone. Insurance companies take the individual's personal circumstances into account when they calculate a premium. Things like age, marital status, address, car you are insuring, etc are all factors so there is no correct/incorrect answer to your question. My insurance company is cheap for me but could be expensive for you.

    I'm afraid there really is no short cut, you will need to start doing some online quotes and/or start ringing around insurance companies/brokers for prices.


  • #2067
    Mackas_view
    Closed Accounts Posts: 298 ✭✭Mackas_view


    Thank you and what type of cover would you recommend?


  • #2068
    bazz26
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,289 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    On a €2k car I'd probably go with Third Party due to the low value but the best thing to do is get a quote for both Third Party and Fully Comprehensive, if there is not a lot in the difference then I would go with the better cover.


  • #2069
    stuba
    Registered Users Posts: 487 ✭✭stuba


    A very noob question, when leaving a deposit on a car worth 9-10k, how much would generally be accepted?


  • #2070
    Cleveland Hot Pocket
    Registered Users Posts: 5,193 ✭✭✭Cleveland Hot Pocket


    stuba wrote: »
    A very noob question, when leaving a deposit on a car worth 9-10k, how much would generally be accepted?

    I'd usually suggest either €500 or a round number close to 10%.
    On my 535d which cost me 11k I left a 1k deposit, for instance.


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  • #2071
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,477 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    stuba wrote: »
    A very noob question, when leaving a deposit on a car worth 9-10k, how much would generally be accepted?

    Garage €500, private €100


  • #2072
    stuba
    Registered Users Posts: 487 ✭✭stuba


    Thanks for the help lads. Left them with €400 and there was no qualms at all.


  • #2073
    Mackas_view
    Closed Accounts Posts: 298 ✭✭Mackas_view


    Hi. I've just bought my first car. The logbook has been sent away and I am waiting on it to be returned. For change of ownership. My questions are;

    What is my next step after gettin it back?
    Do I have to go to the guards etc?

    Can I insure it and tax it before I get it back?

    Thank you


  • #2074
    Oee
    Registered Users Posts: 17 ✭Oee


    This thread is now in my interests. Buying my second car now and need all the advice I can get. Looking at a hatchback 1.4, Kia Ceed ex 2007-8 is what i've leaned toward, budget is in and around 6000-7000.

    Can anyone advise on this car and mileage or alternatives? :) cheers all.


  • #2075
    L-M
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    Mileage : Service history.

    It's no good having a low mileage car with no history, and likewise a high mileage car.

    Cee'ds seem to be the pick of the crop, if you got a 08/09 you would still have some warranty left, too!


  • #2076
    Oee
    Registered Users Posts: 17 ✭Oee


    Limerick man wrote: »
    Mileage : Service history.

    It's no good having a low mileage car with no history, and likewise a high mileage car.

    Cee'ds seem to be the pick of the crop, if you got a 08/09 you would still have some warranty left, too!

    Cheers, excellent OP by the way. Would you be concerned at the resell value over a certain mileage, might be heading abroad in the next 1-2 years? Just considering the smart option in regards to the resell in a few years as a factor.


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  • #2077
    L-M
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    Oee wrote: »
    Cheers, excellent OP by the way. Would you be concerned at the resell value over a certain mileage, might be heading abroad in the next 1-2 years? Just considering the smart option in regards to the resell in a few years as a factor.

    Buy cheap, sell cheap, it's all relative.

    It also depends on your own mileage, if you do low mileage and buy something with over the average mileage, over the course of the next two years your car will become average mileage.

    The opposite then is when you buy something high mileage and you do high mileage.

    Once you look after it with a documented service history, and your mileage isn't astronomical, it should be fine.


  • #2078
    agfasfos
    Registered Users Posts: 263 ✭✭agfasfos


    Looking at buying a 2002 Lexus IS 200 automatic, would really appreciate some opinions, currently driving a Volvo 2.0 T Turbo petrol, sorry if I interrupted any conversations, thanks in advance.


  • #2079
    Mackas_view
    Closed Accounts Posts: 298 ✭✭Mackas_view


    Just been through buyin my first car and I was lookin for big diesels. Heard nothin but good reports about them from garage men and car lovers. I know this isn much advice but it's all I could give ye.


  • #2080
    L-M
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    agfasfos wrote: »
    Looking at buying a 2002 Lexus IS 200 automatic, would really appreciate some opinions, currently driving a Volvo 2.0 T Turbo petrol, sorry if I interrupted any conversations, thanks in advance.

    You'd be going for a 4 cylinder turbo to a 6 cylinder petrol, I'm not sure what the different there would be. From memory the Lexus would be a smaller car.

    I'm not sure what your budget it, but there are some fairly cheap, newer than 02, Is200's out there.

    http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/05-lexus-is200-high-spec-nct-tax/7094730


  • #2081
    agfasfos
    Registered Users Posts: 263 ✭✭agfasfos


    Thats a hi spec motor, is the Alteeza the same car as the IS200, good price too.


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  • #2082
    bazz26
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,289 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Altezza is the same basic car but has some different engines than the IS200. The IS200 has a 6 cylinder lump only producing about 150bhp. Altezza also came with this engine but there was also a version with a Yamaha Beams 2.0 litre 4 cylinder engine producing about 220bhp from the factory. Though I think that is reduced to around 200bhp running on our unleaded grade fuel.

    You will definitely notice a drop in performance from the S60 2.0T down to the IS200. The IS200 is not that powerful and thirsty enough. Another one you might consider is the Honda Accord Euro R.


  • #2083
    agfasfos
    Registered Users Posts: 263 ✭✭agfasfos


    Thanks very much for the info folks, in fairness to my Volvo it has a fair pit of poke & getting about 32 MPG. Problem is I need to go automatic, back problem etc & people have said Lexus is virtually bullet proof.


  • #2084
    bazz26
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,289 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    The auto box in the IS200 is terrible. Will be hard to match the S60 for comfort too. What about another S60?


  • #2085
    Mackas_view
    Closed Accounts Posts: 298 ✭✭Mackas_view


    Anyone know how long it usually takes for the ownership name on a car to be changed so I can tax it?? The form was sent away on Tuesday


  • #2086
    L-M
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    Mackas_view wrote: »
    Anyone know how long it usually takes for the ownership name on a car to be changed so I can tax it?? The form was sent away on Tuesday

    If it was sent before 4 on Tuesday it should be there Wednesday and possibly in your name on Friday/Monday.

    https://www.motortax.ie/PSE/start.do;jsessionid=0aa0114730d86aaa37519f774c72840490aedf399aaa.e38PaNaSbh0RaO0Ma3iTe0?page=welcome

    You can type the reg in there and watch it so see if it's changed, as soon as it has you can tax it. All you need is the chassis number which you can get off the car, and the rest is just what you filled out on the book.


  • #2087
    L-M
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    agfasfos wrote: »
    Thanks very much for the info folks, in fairness to my Volvo it has a fair pit of poke & getting about 32 MPG. Problem is I need to go automatic, back problem etc & people have said Lexus is virtually bullet proof.

    I think you may notice a significant difference in the comfort of the two. Have you sat in a Lexus Is200?

    http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/07-volvo-s60-automatic-nct-tax/6998150

    07 S60 for 3k! How could you go wrong :P


  • #2088
    agfasfos
    Registered Users Posts: 263 ✭✭agfasfos


    bazz26 wrote: »
    The auto box in the IS200 is terrible. Will be hard to match the S60 for comfort too. What about another S60?

    Thanks for the heads up on IS200 auto. Going to turn my attention to another S60, like you said it really is comfortable & hope I can find a good automatic ?, any opinion on the S80 ?.


  • #2089
    agfasfos
    Registered Users Posts: 263 ✭✭agfasfos


    Limerick man wrote: »
    I think you may notice a significant difference in the comfort of the two. Have you sat in a Lexus Is200?

    http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/07-volvo-s60-automatic-nct-tax/6998150

    07 S60 for 3k! How could you go wrong :P


    Well spotted, nearly missed your post, will definitely follow up on that, many thanks.


  • #2090
    Mackas_view
    Closed Accounts Posts: 298 ✭✭Mackas_view


    Thanks lad. I've some headache tryin to get this car on the road ha Be all worth it in the end :-)

    Boards has been an unbelievable source of information and I think your one of the biggest contributors to this thread and forum. Thank you. It's much appreciated. :-)
    Have a good weekend


  • #2091
    Tinker13
    Registered Users Posts: 76 ✭✭Tinker13


    I'm currently looking to buy a small car (€2k to €3k) and and what I thought would be an easy and pleasant transaction is turning into a nightmare. What seems to be prevalent is dealers posing as private sellers who want to meet in Shopping Centres and Car Parks - for my convenience.
    For example, I've had 3 different mobile numbers all claiming to be a local valeter and all wanting to meet with me in a Maxol garage in Walkinstown. When asked, each of these guys say that they just came across a car from a valeting customer and it was so good they took it themselves (or something) - when I pointed out to one guy that there were 7 cars linked to him on Done Deal he insisted he was private and became quite cross.
    Another, completely different mobile number, wanted to meet me in Lidl Walkinstown with a car and a different story - he said he'd taken the car in as a private trade in for his own private car. When questioned he said that he would never bring anyone to his house as he had a bad experience with someone before.
    I can't say that there is anything wrong with any of these cars but, from my experience, i'd like to sound a note of caution to anyone considering a purchase. In all probability, they will not be able to trace the seller again if there is a problem or all is not as it seems to be.


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  • #2092
    bazz26
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,289 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    I'm not sure what sort of comeback you are expected to get on a €2k to €3k car from dealers but imo it will not be much as there is little or no profit in offering warranty on cars in this price range. You are better off treating everything as a private sale, try to buy from a person who has owned the car long enough to be able to answer specific questions about it's history.

    Sometimes a quick way to weed out the on the side dealers is by first inquiring about "the car" rather than the specific make and model. If they ask you which one then you know they are most likely wheeler dealers. Also worth avoiding the cheapest priced examples of each car as these tend to be the ones with either dodgy pasts or sellers.

    As with any car make sure a mechanic inspects it before handing over any cash as it's your problem after that.


  • #2093
    Tinker13
    Registered Users Posts: 76 ✭✭Tinker13


    I agree with all that - the purpose of my post was to warn people again about this practice. In the last few days I've come across this practice a LOT.

    Maybe you're right about not being able to buy a genuine car for this money - I thought there might be people out there who genuinely had no more use for an older runabout or learner car and would be selling privately.

    I'm now thinking that there is a connection with these "cars for cash" signs everywhere....


  • #2094
    murfilein
    Registered Users Posts: 539 ✭✭✭murfilein


    i bought a nissan micra for 2900, privately. the seller offered me to come to his home to take a look at the car, but since he lives rather far away and i didnt have car, we met in front of my home. i test drove it, gave him the money in cash. its a nice car, although it sometimes starts to smell like sausage when the ventilation is on...?! :D

    anyway, it was a nice sale, the guy was really nice, we even made a small contract stating the credentials of the deal. i'm german, we do this kind of stuff. the car isnt in the BEST condition ever, but its not bad either for a 11 year old car. small things here and there that i can get fixed for small amounts of money if i cared to. all in all i would say it 10/10, would deal again.

    anyway, i suppose you also need a bit of luck to contact an honest and genuine seller.


  • #2095
    gaiscioch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,534 ✭✭✭gaiscioch


    How can I find out if a car is stolen?

    For instance, this car (where they're hiding the reg) or this car (where the reg is visible)?


  • #2096
    Tinker13
    Registered Users Posts: 76 ✭✭Tinker13


    In short, I don't think you can. Heard of someone who ran a Cartell report on their new car but it turned out that the reg plates had been swapped with another car.

    If you're buying privately stick to the basics and make sure you know who you're buying from would be my advice.


  • #2097
    L-M
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    Check the logbook and verify that the chassis number is the same as that off the car. Run a cartell check, do all of what is metioned in the first post.

    On anything under 5 years old I would run a finance check too.


  • #2098
    hoody
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭hoody


    Hi there,

    Posted here recently when the other half was about to buy, got some great advice so hoping that I can get some myself now. New arrival on the way in January next year, so I need to move from my 00 1.4 Astra that has 231k miles on a petrol engine to something a bit fresher and with a bit more room.

    Budget would be around €6500 - €7500 and I'm thinking diesel as I do about 15000 miles of mostly motorway driving each year. Any suggestions or am I best to stick to the obvious choices like 08/09 Ford Mondeos or Skoda Octavias? Probably won't be buying til later in the year but want to keep an eye out in case a bargain comes along!

    Thanks for help


  • #2099
    bazz26
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,289 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    If this is genuine then it is worth considering too, plenty of poke and very reliable:

    media?xwm=y&id=22ec9bb5-797a-4244-b147-def78e15bd57&width=400&height=300
    http://www.driving.ie/used-cars/KIA/Ceed/1.6-CRDI/42713936891539540/


  • #2100
    MidlandsM
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,737 ✭✭✭MidlandsM


    +1
    And cheap servicing as there is no timing belt changes ever reqd...they've a chain.


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  • #2101
    TitianGerm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,352 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    hey guys I'm looking for a little help.

    I test drove a 2011 1.6 Passat this morning and really liked it.

    This is the exact carhttp://www.carzone.ie/search/Volkswagen/Passat/1.6-TDI-/43813953142594460/advert?channel=CARS

    Should i look out for anything or would the more knowledgeable people of boards advise anything ?

    Thanks


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