Games off due to cup games and DGW's

Iused2likebusts · 15-01-2014 1:41pm #1

This is something we will have to pay attention to, between now and the end of the season.
The first game we can safely say is off is the gw 28 fixture between Man city and man utd due to the capital one cup final taking place that weekend. If sunderland overcome man utd, sunderland and west brom will also be called off. Potentially these games could be refixed for the midweek after the cup final but not sure any of the clubs would want to agree to that.
The next problem will arise in GW 29 when the fa cup quarter finals will clash with the PL fixtures. We will have a good few postponements here and going by last year these games wont be refixed for the midweek after as CL games are scheduled for then. There is a rule that PL games cant be scheduled for the same night as CL games as far as I know.
Good to have a thread to keep all this information in the one place. All will become clearer over the next few weeks. City potentially could have a blank in gw 28 and 29.

roryc · 15-01-2014 2:01pm

Bring on the double gameweeks!

Iused2likebusts · 15-01-2014 2:03pm

roryc wrote: »

Bring on the double gameweeks!

and a few blanks makes it more challenging.

FHFC · 15-01-2014 2:14pm

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

City potentially could have a blank in gw 28 and 29.

Another aspect of the game that is new to me.

There will need to be a bit of thought and planning put into a potential double blank like that I'd imagine considering most will have 2 or 3 City assets!!

I must start learning to bank FTs, something I have yet to manage!!!

jimmii · 15-01-2014 2:31pm

Good idea to have it all in one place. Hopefully I can make my WC work for me this year last year I used my wildcard when I was around 900th and only just scraped a top 10k finish!

FHFC · 15-01-2014 2:36pm

For those of us with no wildcard left working carefully towards these blanks / dgws will be a challenge!

roryc · 15-01-2014 3:30pm

Just don't have more than 2 players from any one team. It may hurt people with Aguero, Silva, Zab, Januzaj for example...

Swiper the fox · 15-01-2014 4:47pm

FHFC wrote: »

Another aspect of the game that is new to me.

There will need to be a bit of thought and planning put into a potential double blank like that I'd imagine considering most will have 2 or 3 City assets!!

I must start learning to bank FTs, something I have yet to manage!!!

Not sure how well you are doing overall but I know it's your first year, these double gameweeks are your best chance to make up serious ground on the casual players who will be above you in private leagues. Last year there were some massive dgw successes, perhaps somebody else will remind me of the big ones. It doesn't require a huge pile of planning as you'll have at least two game weeks to prepare and we'll be talking about little else;)

City having two blanks in a row will be a challenge to manage though, points hits might be the order of the day as they'll almost certainly pay you back with their home fixtures.

zarquon · 15-01-2014 4:57pm

Can't wait for the double gameweeks and the blanks. That is when serious ground can be made up on casual players, I'm banking on the Double gameweeks to allow me to get to the top of my private leagues. It's something that has never failed me yet. I once recouped a 100 point deficit on league leader in 3 gameweeks due to double gameweeks.

FHFC · 15-01-2014 5:08pm

Swiper the fox wrote: »

Not sure how well you are doing overall but I know it's your first year, these double gameweeks are your best chance to make up serious ground on the casual players who will be above you in private leagues. Last year there were some massive dgw successes, perhaps somebody else will remind me of the big ones. It doesn't require a huge pile of planning as you'll have at least two game weeks to prepare and we'll be talking about little else;)

City having two blanks in a row will be a challenge to manage though, points hits might be the order of the day as they'll almost certainly pay you back with their home fixtures.

I look forward to it!! Sounds right up my obsessive compulsive street.

I'm in top 20k overall at present and 4th in my main league which has a decent prize pot, and would love to press on and have a crack at winning it. I've only about 30 pts to make up on 1st place.

Swiper the fox · 15-01-2014 5:34pm

FHFC wrote: »

I look forward to it!! Sounds right up my obsessive compulsive street.

I'm in top 20k overall at present and 4th in my main league which has a decent prize pot, and would love to press on and have a crack at winning it. I've only about 30 pts to make up on 1st place.

Bloody hell, you are doing amazingly well for a rookie, when you are that high up it's not so easy to use the DGW's to make up major ground as most others up there will be doing more than a quick 5 minute glance on a Friday evening.

I think we're all obsessive compulsives around here, this game does that to us.

FHFC · 15-01-2014 5:59pm

Swiper the fox wrote: »

Bloody hell, you are doing amazingly well for a rookie, when you are that high up it's not so easy to use the DGW's to make up major ground as most others up there will be doing more than a quick 5 minute glance on a Friday evening.

I think we're all obsessive compulsives around here, this game does that to us.

I'm a 'don't do anything by halves' kinda person...

I didn't know the rules of this game 6 months ago, but I did a hell of a lot of research before picking my team, then I found this forum and the rest is history!

I think that most of those in my private league are not really the 'full timer' kind of player, so hoping I can skip past a few of them at least.

Iused2likebusts · 17-01-2014 12:11am

grohlisagod wrote: »

That City V United game could just be moved midweek as I think both sides would be free. It would still count as the same gameweek in that case.

it could but if they play each other in the final on the sunday, Im not too sure they would be too keen to face off again 3 days later.

grohlisagod · 17-01-2014 12:19am

Yeah I read the first post again and saw it was already mentioned.

TaytoCrisps · 17-01-2014 1:49am

you've got to love the double game weeks towards the end of the season, they can really make or break the season for you. We need to get suarez in a double game week to take captain choice out of the equation

3 city players at present and 1 united so i'd be ok for a blank at the moment with those 2 .

Rikand · 17-01-2014 6:25pm

zarquon wrote: »

Can't wait for the double gameweeks and the blanks. That is when serious ground can be made up on casual players, I'm banking on the Double gameweeks to allow me to get to the top of my private leagues. It's something that has never failed me yet. I once recouped a 100 point deficit on league leader in 3 gameweeks due to double gameweeks.

Same, I start working towards the double gameweeks and the blanks well in advance of them and it has paid off for me every time!

Dr. Bre · 18-01-2014 6:17am

The fa cup quarters weekend is always a killer cos there is prem fixtures that weekend unlike the 3rd 4th 5th round. majority of q finalists are from prem so loads of matches off

Iused2likebusts · 22-01-2014 12:32pm

So City Utd will definetly have a blank GW 28. From reading the FFS article there is international games the midweek of GW 28(something I hadnt realised) so the game will not be refixed for the midweek. As I mentioned before GW29 is Fa Cup qfinal weekend and with their being CL games the midweek of GW29( city play Barca), there should be no games refixed for then. If city get to the fa cup qfinal they will have 2 blanks in a row Gw 28 & 29. Utd will definetly play gw 29 as they face wba and both of those teams are out of the cup already. Its going to get very interesting.

PARlance · 22-01-2014 12:50pm

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

So City Utd will definetly have a blank GW 28. From reading the FFS article there is international games the midweek of GW 28(something I hadnt realised) so the game will not be refixed for the midweek. As I mentioned before GW29 is Fa Cup qfinal weekend and with their being CL games the midweek of GW29( city play Barca), there should be no games refixed for then. If city get to the fa cup qfinal they will have 2 blanks in a row Gw 28 & 29. Utd will definetly play gw 29 as they face wba and both of those teams are out of the cup already. Its going to get very interesting.

Was thinking a bit about this last night, is there any(much) of a chance that the games will be brought forward?

Was working on a plan and then got the sh*ts when the thought of it being brought forward entered my head.

When do they generally announce the changes?

PARlance · 22-01-2014 12:50pm

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

So City Utd will definetly have a blank GW 28. From reading the FFS article there is international games the midweek of GW 28(something I hadnt realised) so the game will not be refixed for the midweek. As I mentioned before GW29 is Fa Cup qfinal weekend and with their being CL games the midweek of GW29( city play Barca), there should be no games refixed for then. If city get to the fa cup qfinal they will have 2 blanks in a row Gw 28 & 29. Utd will definetly play gw 29 as they face wba and both of those teams are out of the cup already. Its going to get very interesting.

Was thinking a bit about this last night, is there any(much) of a chance that the games will be brought forward?

Was working on a plan and then got the sh*ts when the thought of it being brought forward entered my head.

When do they generally announce the changes?

Dr. Bre · 22-01-2014 1:02pm

and this is why people keep there wildcard till now. i had a bad start so didnt

zarquon · 22-01-2014 1:10pm

And so it begins. Cannot wait! This year has been the year of the casual player where uninspired bandwagons have turned into must haves. People never breaking 100 or 200K before now getting into the top 5K with ease! These double GWs will punish the casual players. Certainly a strong bench is required.

I imagine most will have 3 Man City players and their CUP progressions will make things difficult. A lot of people bringing the likes of Januzaj and Evans in on the cheap will be screwed for GW 28 as they could have 5 players missing! Same will happen other teams as the CL and FA Cup progresses.

Swiper the fox · 22-01-2014 1:16pm

zarquon wrote: »

And so it begins. Cannot wait! This year has been the year of the casual player where uninspired bandwagons have turned into must haves. People never breaking 100 or 200K before now getting into the top 5K with ease! These double GWs will punish the casual players. Certainly a strong bench is required.

I imagine most will have at least 3 Man City players and their CUP progressions will make things difficult. A lot of people bringing the likes of Januzaj and Evans in on the cheap will be screwed for GW 28 as they could have 5 players missing! Same will happen other teams as the CL and FA Cup progresses.

Let me be the first to point out your schoolboy error;), sorry:o

Anyway it is for this reason that I don't ever like having three from one team in my own team, either way we have plenty of notice, problem is that some won't be able to afford to dump Aguero or Yaya due to crazy price rises, it'll be a test of the squads no doubt. I thought that City AND United had a guaranteed blank in week 28.

roryc · 22-01-2014 1:36pm

zarquon wrote: »

And so it begins. Cannot wait! This year has been the year of the casual player where uninspired bandwagons have turned into must haves. People never breaking 100 or 200K before now getting into the top 5K with ease! These double GWs will punish the casual players. Certainly a strong bench is required.

I imagine most will have at least 3 Man City players and their CUP progressions will make things difficult. A lot of people bringing the likes of Januzaj and Evans in on the cheap will be screwed for GW 28 as they could have 5 players missing! Same will happen other teams as the CL and FA Cup progresses.

100% agree! I limited myself to two City players despite wanting Kolorov, and will continue to avoid the United players like the plague!

My bench is my main worry atm with Coleman (injured), Chester (out until March) and Colback (not guaranteed 90 mins). Would obviously be beneficial to still have my WC but no regrets using it when I did, these consecutive injuries can happen anytime, hindsight is a great thing!

We have plenty of time between now and GW28 to manage this. Hopefully it catches the bandwagoners out. I'll happily bench Aguero + Silva for a week but if it looks like they'll miss 2 in a row then one of them will have to go.

alchemist33 · 22-01-2014 1:46pm

Like roryc, I'm also limiting myself to 2 x City in my WC because of this and avoiding United players for now. But two blank gameweeks will bring major headaches.

Iused2likebusts · 22-01-2014 2:16pm

PARlance wrote: »

Was thinking a bit about this last night, is there any(much) of a chance that the games will be brought forward?

Was working on a plan and then got the sh*ts when the thought of it being brought forward entered my head.

When do they generally announce the changes?

If city were knocked out of the fa cup this weekend(unlikely) they could fix the utd city game for the weekend of the 5th round of FA cup giving us a double gw 26. This happened last year with a Liverpool Swansea double.
GW 29 could be carnage depending on how many of the quarter finalists are prem league teams.

zarquon · 22-01-2014 2:42pm

Swiper the fox wrote: »

Let me be the first to point out your schoolboy error;), sorry:o

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Typo, although technically it is possible if City transfer in someone from another PL team that happens to be in your fantasy team. For example you could have 3 UTD players and bring Mata in as a Chelsea player and he will still be playable if he transfers over although this would have to be rectified when you make your next transfer.

FHFC · 22-01-2014 2:43pm

Definately some good learning for me here, and time for me to revisit my 3 City and 2 United wildcard draft!

I will have the likes of Yaya and maybe RVP at current prices so could sell and swap around, but maybe Kolarov is a luxury I can't afford.....

Cheers lads.

PARlance · 22-01-2014 2:59pm

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

If city were knocked out of the fa cup this weekend(unlikely) they could fix the utd city game for the weekend of the 5th round of FA cup giving us a double gw 26. This happened last year with a Liverpool Swansea double.
GW 29 could be carnage depending on how many of the quarter finalists are prem league teams.

Cheers, I'll hold that 20 point hit till after the weekend so

Neoulous · 22-01-2014 3:03pm

Swiper the fox wrote: »

problem is that some won't be able to afford to dump Aguero or Yaya due to crazy price rises, it'll be a test of the squads no doubt.

If City are certain to miss 2 GWs in a row it may be worth selling either or one of your City attacker. Depending on the fixtures list for both these GWs there could be a mass exodus from these players and they could drop £0.2m per week for example. Anyway it's only conjectures until we know for sure what's gonna happen. Keeping 2 FT for that period could well be essential though.

Lemlin · 22-01-2014 7:45pm

I only have Yaya and Aguero from City and can easily transfer Yaya out as have no price rises from him.

City and Chelsea are the only teams I have two players from so this will suit me fine.

Spurs and United are already out of the Cup. What other PL teams are folks?

8-10 · 22-01-2014 11:15pm

If Sunderland go through that means Sunderland and West Brom have a blank in GW28 also right?

Iused2likebusts · 23-01-2014 12:16am

8-10 wrote: »

If Sunderland go through that means Sunderland and West Brom have a blank in GW28 also right?

correct thats off now aswell.

Lemlin · 23-01-2014 12:25am

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

correct thats off now aswell.

I'll be missing Mannone, Yaya and Aguero that week so.

Iused2likebusts · 23-01-2014 12:31am

Lemlin wrote: »

I'll be missing Mannone, Yaya and Aguero that week so.

I'll be down 4. The week after gw 29 will be worse unless there are a few major cup shocks or big teams drawn against each other in the next round. Arsenal, chelsea, city, liverpool, everton, southampton and sunderland all still in the cup and with favourable draws.
Although spurs are out they are due to play chelsea gw 29 so if chelsea make the quarters, spurs will also have no game.

Lemlin · 23-01-2014 1:00am

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

I'll be down 4. The week after gw 29 will be worse unless there are a few major cup shocks or big teams drawn against each other in the next round. Arsenal, chelsea, city, liverpool, everton, southampton and sunderland all still in the cup and with favourable draws.
Although spurs are out they are due to play chelsea gw 29 so if chelsea make the quarters, spurs will also have no game.

That's why I'm fairly happy my options are spread. Along with two players each from Chelsea and City, I've players from Sunderland, Arsenal, Everton, Palace, Hull, Newcastle, Saints, Spurs, Cardiff, United and Liverpool. That should spread my risk well.

Mr.Prodston · 23-01-2014 1:08am

I need to try and get my head around these future minefield of games with the wildcard in play. Any plan I had for Adam Johnson is probably scrapped which is surely a blessing in disguise.

I had been thinking of up to 5 players between City, United and Sunderland though which may need to be reworked. A job for the morning.

Iused2likebusts · 23-01-2014 1:16am

Lemlin wrote: »

That's why I'm fairly happy my options are spread. Along with two players each from Chelsea and City, I've players from Sunderland, Arsenal, Everton, Palace, Hull, Newcastle, Saints, Spurs, Cardiff, United and Liverpool. That should spread my risk well.

If you have 1 utd you will be missing 4 not 3 the previous GW.

Lemlin · 23-01-2014 7:58am

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

If you have 1 utd you will be missing 4 not 3 the previous GW.

The United player is Januzaj. I don't expect to keep him. I just put him in to try and get a rise from him.

Shedite27 · 23-01-2014 11:32am

Long way off, but GW28 was one of those weeks that the Mannone/Marshall Collective (quite a few members on here I reckon), had planned on playing Mannone.

Sunderland won't have a game now that week (unless they lose to Kidderminster in FA Cup).

The alternative is that we now have to play Marshall away to Spurs that week.

On the plus, if it's refixed for GW30,31 or 32 there's an attractive double gameweek for Mannone.

roryc · 23-01-2014 5:58pm

Not bothered about keepers, haven't had a clean sheet in months and don't expect one either way. More than happy to play Marshall and then have Mannone for a DGW at some stage. Only other option is Boruc who faces Pool in GW28

Iused2likebusts · 26-01-2014 11:14pm

Had a look at how things are shaping up for gw 29 and dgws now that we have the 5th round draw.
GW 29 fixtures
WBA Man utd will go ahead
Norwich Stoke will go ahead
Arsenal swansea will be off if either team win their 5th round tie.
Man City Villa will be off if city beat chelsea
Cardiff Fulham will be off if either team win their 5th round tie.
Chelsea Spurs will be off if Chelsea beat City
Palace Southampton will be off if southampton beat sunderland.
Liverpool sunderland will be off if either team win their 5th round tie.
West ham Hull will be off if Hull win at brighton.
Newcastle Everton will be off if everton beat swansea.

Fa Cup 5th rd draw
Arsenal v liverpool, city v chelsea, everton v swansea, sunderland v southampton, cardiff v wigan, brighton v hull and fulham if they win their replay will be at home to forest/preston.

There will be atleast 3 games called off and could be up to 7 games called off depending on certain permuatations.
Assuming the no PL games when there are CL games rule still applies, GW 31, 34 and 37 are the only potential DGW dates.
The Fa Cup 5th round takes place after GW 26 the Fa cup 6th round is GW 29. Meaning we will only have 3 transfers to sort out this mess. I plan to carry a transfer into gw 27 to give me 4 transfers.
Gw 28 utd, city, sunderland and wba miss out. City and sunderland could have a blank gw 28 and 29.

Mr. Guappa · 26-01-2014 11:36pm

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

Had a look at how things are shaping up for gw 29 and dgws now that we have the 5th round draw.
GW 29 fixtures
WBA Man utd will go ahead
Norwich Stoke will go ahead
Arsenal swansea will be off if either team win their 5th round tie.
Man City Villa will be off if city beat chelsea
Cardiff Fulham will be off if either team win their 5th round tie.
Chelsea Spurs will be off if Chelsea beat City
Palace Southampton will be off if southampton beat sunderland.
Liverpool sunderland will be off if either team win their 5th round tie.
West ham Hull will be off if Hull win at brighton.
Newcastle Everton will be off if everton beat swansea.

Fa Cup 5th rd draw
Arsenal v liverpool, city v chelsea, everton v swansea, sunderland v southampton, cardiff v wigan, brighton v hull and fulham if they win their replay will be at home to forest/preston.

There will be atleast 3 games called off and could be up to 7 games called off depending on certain permuatations.
Assuming the no PL games when there are CL games rule still applies, GW 31, 34 and 37 are the only potential DGW dates.
The Fa Cup 5th round takes place after GW 26 the Fa cup 6th round is GW 29. Meaning we will only have 3 transfers to sort out this mess. I plan to carry a transfer into gw 27 to give me 4 transfers.
Gw 28 utd, city, sunderland and wba miss out. City and sunderland could have a blank gw 28 and 29.

Looks like GW29 will be absolute carnage. As it stands right now the only teams that will definitely play in both GW28 and GW29 are Norwich and Stoke. I will bring in a Norwich defender with my active wildcard just to give me some comfort.

alchemist33 · 26-01-2014 11:40pm

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

Had a look at how things are shaping up for gw 29 and dgws now that we have the 5th round draw.
GW 29 fixtures
WBA Man utd will go ahead
Norwich Stoke will go ahead
Arsenal swansea will be off if either team win their 5th round tie.
Man City Villa will be off if city beat chelsea
Cardiff Fulham will be off if either team win their 5th round tie.
Chelsea Spurs will be off if Chelsea beat City
Palace Southampton will be off if southampton beat sunderland.
Liverpool sunderland will be off if either team win their 5th round tie.
West ham Hull will be off if Hull win at brighton.
Newcastle Everton will be off if everton beat swansea.

Fa Cup 5th rd draw
Arsenal v liverpool, city v chelsea, everton v swansea, sunderland v southampton, cardiff v wigan, brighton v hull and fulham if they win their replay will be at home to forest/preston.

There will be atleast 3 games called off and could be up to 7 games called off depending on certain permuatations.
Assuming the no PL games when there are CL games rule still applies, GW 31, 34 and 37 are the only potential DGW dates.
The Fa Cup 5th round takes place after GW 26 the Fa cup 6th round is GW 29. Meaning we will only have 3 transfers to sort out this mess. I plan to carry a transfer into gw 27 to give me 4 transfers.
Gw 28 utd, city, sunderland and wba miss out. City and sunderland could have a blank gw 28 and 29.

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Shedite27 · 27-01-2014 10:23am

There is no "PL games can't happen when CL games happen". That's just a thing teams do to maximise attendances (no point in having Stoke V West Brom when City/BArca is on TV). I reckon a lot of games will be refixed for the CL nights (so in the same gameweek).

Iused2likebusts · 27-01-2014 10:40am

Shedite27 wrote: »

There is no "PL games can't happen when CL games happen". That's just a thing teams do to maximise attendances (no point in having Stoke V West Brom when City/BArca is on TV). I reckon a lot of games will be refixed for the CL nights (so in the same gameweek).

Didnt happen last year, look back at the fixtures and there was potential for chelsea being forced to have a triple gw at one stage until they were knocked out of the fa cup. Im pretty sure there is an agreement in place. Midweek league of ireland games take place on mondays a lot of the time to avoid this aswell.

FHFC · 27-01-2014 10:43am

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

WBA Man utd will go ahead

If I'm reading all that right Man U are now one of the safest 'big teams' as we know for certain they will have a blank in GW 28 only and have a decent fixture in GW 29 when its gonna be hard to field 11 players.

Lucas Hood · 27-01-2014 10:51am

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

Didnt happen last year, look back at the fixtures and there was potential for chelsea being forced to have a triple gw at one stage until they were knocked out of the fa cup. Im pretty sure there is an agreement in place. Midweek league of ireland games take place on mondays a lot of the time to avoid this aswell.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2125083/Premier-League-refuse-sign-UEFA-Champions-League-clashes-deal.html .

Iused2likebusts · 27-01-2014 11:05am

Lucas Hood wrote: »

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2125083/Premier-League-refuse-sign-UEFA-Champions-League-clashes-deal.html .

Ye I remember someone posted that exact article last year and the games still werent refixed for CL nights.
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/football/premier-league/2012-2013/results/2013_05.html
Gw 29 was 6th rd fa cup last year 6 games went ahead. 4 games called off werent refixed till midweek gw 33. Gw 33 was fa cup semi final weekend 3 games called off for that, and they werent refixed till gw 36. There was no cl on midweek of gw 33 and 36 of last year. Im assuming the same will happen again.

km79 · 27-01-2014 5:37pm

United city moved to 25th march
Dgw 31

Steven81 · 27-01-2014 7:54pm

km79 wrote: »

United city moved to 25th march
Dgw 31

Week 31 fixtures
22nd March Man City vs Fulham 3pm
22nd March West Ham vs Man Utd 5.30pm
25th March Man Utd vs Man City 7.45pm

Games off due to cup games and DGW's

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