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Dublin Bikes - expansion stalled?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,193 ✭✭✭[Jackass]


    How would people feel about this being a solution to having massively more capacity at each terminal, taking up minimal space compared to the current facility, thus making it easier to put way more around the city...

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    http://www.broadsheet.ie/2013/07/11/this-changes-everything-10/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,193 ✭✭✭[Jackass]


    cgcsb wrote: »
    Have you ever been to America(The North South and Central continents)? the UK(outside of London)? Asia? Australia? Africa?

    I've lived in two states in America, also lived in Canada, have been to about 10 cities around the UK, I have also been to the majority of the countries in Western Europe, I've only been to Morroco in Africa, but never to Asia... what's your point?


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 14,088 Mod ✭✭✭✭monument


    [Jackass] wrote: »
    How would people feel about this being a solution to having massively more capacity at each terminal, taking up minimal space compared to the current facility, thus making it easier to put way more around the city...

    u9xIzDv.gif

    http://www.broadsheet.ie/2013/07/11/this-changes-everything-10/

    Those things are expensive and usually paid for by parking charges in excess of DublinBike subs. The construction footprint is quite large and the final above ground structure is set in the centre.

    They work on scale too -- three of then would fit every DublinBikes and have space left over.

    They make a lot more sense in Japan given the high density and lack if street space. I would not discount having a few in Dublin for parking private bike, but the Dutch have smaller-scale systems for bike rental (and even at that, it's a train station focused system, not like ours).


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,782 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    [Jackass] wrote: »
    How would people feel about this being a solution to having massively more capacity at each terminal, taking up minimal space compared to the current facility, thus making it easier to put way more around the city...

    u9xIzDv.gif

    http://www.broadsheet.ie/2013/07/11/this-changes-everything-10/

    Would love to see it, but can't see the costs involved being an attraction to the people that would have to pay for it.

    Maybe when DB subscriptions are €100 per year :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,622 ✭✭✭maninasia


    cgcsb wrote: »
    Have you ever been to America(The North South and Central continents)? the UK(outside of London)? Asia? Australia? Africa?

    Dublin has a pretty crap public transport network compared to the more advanced Asian economies to be honest. It has some bus lanes and one North-South coastal light rail and a couple of street-car lines that don't even join up. It's really hard to get from North to South in any reasonable time frame and the buses are unreliable and slow and often full of junkies and undesirables. It's got a few train lines that run in from the countryside but again they don't link very well with other modes of transport and they are fairly slow and expensive. It fairly sucks arse overall compared to a modern Asian or European city. It needs some underground metro lines, that's what's holding it up.

    As for driving through it, it's not easy either, while I appreciate that's by design somewhat, it's not an easy commuter city either.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭wobblyknees


    [Jackass] wrote: »
    How would people feel about this being a solution to having massively more capacity at each terminal, taking up minimal space compared to the current facility, thus making it easier to put way more around the city...

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    http://www.broadsheet.ie/2013/07/11/this-changes-everything-10/

    Is there not a risk that the machine becomes a single point of failure for lots of bikes?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,088 ✭✭✭SpaceTime


    That's kind of a solution in search of a problem. There's no major shortage of street space for bikes in Dublin.

    Same system as used in Dublin works fine in Paris and Brussels where it's probably a lot busier!


  • Registered Users Posts: 314 ✭✭Kumsheen


    Any update on any new bike stations happening?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,229 ✭✭✭LeinsterDub




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,235 ✭✭✭lucernarian


    I saw it on Saturday. They had a second channel cut in the ground with red ducting for electrical cables to the new securing posts. Looks like it will be nearly doubled from existing capacity. It's desperately needed, given the proximity to Connolly Station too.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 14,088 Mod ✭✭✭✭monument




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,538 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Any idea which 20? There's one planned for very close to my new office.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,229 ✭✭✭LeinsterDub


    Have to say looking at that map the usability it going to be greatly improved. The few stations i've found with capacity issue all seem to have a new station very close to it.

    Merrion square for example has 4 new stations which should really balance out the load in the mornings , same with the green 2 new stations


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 434 ✭✭AsianDub


    Work has started on a station on the North Wall Quay across from the Convention Centre.

    http://www.broadsheet.ie/2013/10/24/meanwhile-at-the-dublin-docklands/


  • Registered Users Posts: 314 ✭✭Kumsheen


    Great news about the expansion finally starting. Any sign of any going in around Heuston Station yet?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 434 ✭✭AsianDub


    So what I've seen so far is

    Stations at Convention Centre and Great Strand Street open.
    3 more stations along the North Wall Quay built and awaiting opening.
    Work starting at Grand Canal Square and South Dock Road in Ringsend.

    Any more?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,279 ✭✭✭NuMarvel


    There's a new station on Lower Mount Street that's built and looks like it's ready to open.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 879 ✭✭✭TheBandicoot


    There's one on Lime St, just off Sir John Rogerson's Quay.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 434 ✭✭AsianDub


    There's one on Lime St, just off Sir John Rogerson's Quay.

    Nice. Didn't know one was there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭JuliusCaesar


    There are posters for the expansion of the scheme on the Crumlin Road and the SCR at Dolphin's Barn :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,905 ✭✭✭Aard


    This news is slightly out of date, but I'll mention it just in case. Three new Dublin Bikes stations opened at York Street West, Mount Street Lower and Grattan Street. The latter two should be handy for the GCD area.

    There's a list of upcoming stations available here: http://www.dublinbikes.ie/Stations/View-stations/Dublinbikes-station-list


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 988 ✭✭✭Raoul Duke


    There are posters for the expansion of the scheme on the Crumlin Road and the SCR at Dolphin's Barn :D

    Yeah, I saw the poster as well. I don't see any street near there on the list of upcoming stations, or on the station map though. Do you know of a station that will be nearby?


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 14,088 Mod ✭✭✭✭monument


    There are posters for the expansion of the scheme on the Crumlin Road and the SCR at Dolphin's Barn :D
    Raoul Duke wrote: »
    Yeah, I saw the poster as well. I don't see any street near there on the list of upcoming stations, or on the station map though. Do you know of a station that will be nearby?

    DublinBikes are used by people who live/work/study far beyond the limits of the system.

    Here's a map of all current and planned stations: http://irishcycle.com/dbmap/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 988 ✭✭✭Raoul Duke


    monument wrote: »
    DublinBikes are used by people who live/work/study far beyond the limits of the system.

    Here's a map of all current and planned stations: http://irishcycle.com/dbmap/

    Thanks, that's a better map than the official one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 164 ✭✭Delphic


    Interesting article in Sunday Times today about the app designed by NTA - leading people up wrong streets, dangerous alleyways, and onto Luas lines.


  • Registered Users Posts: 225 ✭✭ManAboutCouch


    It looks like the NTA have approved feasibility studies for extending the Dublin Bikes scheme to Dun Laoghaire and Tallaght:

    http://newstalk.ie/Dublin-bike-scheme-could-be-extended


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,104 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    It looks like the NTA have approved feasibility studies for extending the Dublin Bikes scheme to Dun Laoghaire and Tallaght:

    http://newstalk.ie/Dublin-bike-scheme-could-be-extended

    Tallaght?! - they'd all end up in the canal etc etc...


  • Registered Users Posts: 371 ✭✭larchill


    Ah so thats what those thingys are outside the Mater in Eccles St. I see Eccles St East is on the list of new stations :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,905 ✭✭✭Aard


    There's about four or five new stations under construction in and around Heuston. Does anybody have any idea how long the construction period has been for other new stations? Once these ones come into operation, I can see a huge increase in ridership for Dublin Bikes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 687 ✭✭✭Five Lamps


    South Dock St. station is now often (near Shelbourne Park stadium). I think that's the most easterly one on the south side.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,229 ✭✭✭LeinsterDub


    With this phase nearly done do we have an ETA on the next one beginning?


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 14,088 Mod ✭✭✭✭monument


    With this phase nearly done do we have an ETA on the next one beginning?

    In a word: No.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,775 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    Is there actually any info on the next phase at all, i.e. where the next expansion is scheduled to take in?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,760 ✭✭✭AngryLips


    Does anyone know if the DB card will be usable on bike schemes in Cork, Limerick and Galway when they are launched later this year or will they be separate schemes completely?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,342 ✭✭✭markpb


    AngryLips wrote: »
    Does anyone know if the DB card will be usable on bike schemes in Cork, Limerick and Galway when they are launched later this year or will they be separate schemes completely?

    I'd hazard a guess that they'll be separate.


  • Registered Users Posts: 112 ✭✭brownbeard


    keane2097 wrote: »
    Is there actually any info on the next phase at all, i.e. where the next expansion is scheduled to take in?

    http://dublinobserver.com/2011/03/wheels-set-in-motion-for-dublin-bikes-expansion/

    From the map bellow/attached/linked it's the remaining section within the grand canal at dolphin's barn.

    This was the map that was floating around a few years ago but I suspect that there's no concrete plans on how to proceed with the next stages. Hopefully this is already being worked through (funding etc..) but my guess would be that we'd maybe get an announcement before the next general election? :rolleyes:

    Does anyone else know anything further on the next stages?

    expmap-large.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 489 ✭✭the world wonders


    http://dublincity.ie/coca-cola-ireland-investment-support-expansion-dublinbikes-scheme
    The three-year commercial partnership deal, worth almost €2m, will see the scheme rebranded as Coca-Cola Zero dublinbikes. Coca-Cola Zero branding will be on dublinbikes from the end of June 2014.

    Does this mean that the dublinbikes membership will also work in Cork/Limerick/Galway?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,905 ✭✭✭Aard


    I'm trying to find out exactly how many bikes are available now, but it's not on the site. They state that there were 550 live in 2011, but there have been many new stations added since then. Anybody know?


  • Registered Users Posts: 22 Farotz


    Hi guys,

    Any news about the possible extension of the Dublin Bike Scheme to Fingal?
    Some declarations made by Fingal councillors in the past 2 years (for some reason Boards.ie says that I can't post links on the grounds that I would a 'new member', even if I'm not) seem to suggest that they may be thinking about a separate scheme, but let's hope this won't be the case, or if it will let's hope that at least there will be a very high degree of integration, with cyclists free to pick and park bikes in either jurisdictions.
    Thanks,


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,905 ✭✭✭Aard


    The dublinbikes scheme isn't planned to be extended beyond Dublin City Council. I haven't heard anything about a separate scheme for Fingal.


  • Registered Users Posts: 22 Farotz


    Google this article appeared on the North County Leader website on the 27th January:

    'Councillors Want Free Bike Scheme In North County'

    But you are right in saying that nothing has been planned yet:
    'However, the County Council have decided to wait until the free bike scheme that has proven very successful in Dublin City, has rolled out to other cities around the country, before considering a similar scheme for our larger towns, like Balbriggan and Swords'.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 687 ✭✭✭Five Lamps


    Farotz wrote: »
    Google this article appeared on the North County Leader website on the 27th January:

    'Councillors Want Free Bike Scheme In North County'

    But you are right in saying that nothing has been planned yet:
    'However, the County Council have decided to wait until the free bike scheme that has proven very successful in Dublin City, has rolled out to other cities around the country, before considering a similar scheme for our larger towns, like Balbriggan and Swords'.

    It's funny how they want them but are then back off from making decisions of new cycle ways, cycle priority etc or any action that might even inconvenience car owners at the slightest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,229 ✭✭✭LeinsterDub


    Aard wrote: »
    I'm trying to find out exactly how many bikes are available now, but it's not on the site. They state that there were 550 live in 2011, but there have been many new stations added since then. Anybody know?

    Will be 1500 when expansion is done
    http://m.rte.ie/news/touch/2013/0510/391615-dublin-bikes/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,229 ✭✭✭LeinsterDub


    http://dublincity.ie/coca-cola-ireland-investment-support-expansion-dublinbikes-scheme



    Does this mean that the dublinbikes membership will also work in Cork/Limerick/Galway?

    Doubt it you annual subscription goes to cover the cost of the db scheme. How would that be shared?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,905 ✭✭✭Aard



    Yes that figure appears on the db website too, but I'm hoping to find out how many bikes are available today.


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  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 14,088 Mod ✭✭✭✭monument


    Five Lamps wrote: »
    It's funny how they want them but are then back off from making decisions of new cycle ways, cycle priority etc or any action that might even inconvenience car owners at the slightest.

    Sounds a bit like some city councilors. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 260 ✭✭fitzgese


    Aard wrote: »
    There's about four or five new stations under construction in and around Heuston. Does anybody have any idea how long the construction period has been for other new stations? Once these ones come into operation, I can see a huge increase in ridership for Dublin Bikes.

    These seem to have been effectively completed from a construction point of view and are sitting idle without bikes for the last couple of weeks. I emailed Dublinbikes regarding when they might open, and got the following reply:

    "Thank you for your mail.
    At present we do not have specific dates for the opening of the new stations. As the stations come online our website will be updated with all relevant information.
    Should you require any further assistance please do not hesitate to contact us.

    Regards

    dublinbikes team"

    Anyone know anything more specific as they when they might open? Can't wait to ditch the bus :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 365 ✭✭Cerdito


    fitzgese wrote: »
    These seem to have been effectively completed from a construction point of view and are sitting idle without bikes for the last couple of weeks. I emailed Dublinbikes regarding when they might open, and got the following reply:

    "Thank you for your mail.
    At present we do not have specific dates for the opening of the new stations. As the stations come online our website will be updated with all relevant information.
    Should you require any further assistance please do not hesitate to contact us.

    Regards

    dublinbikes team"

    Anyone know anything more specific as they when they might open? Can't wait to ditch the bus :D

    I am also keeping a close eye on these. I got the exact same response from dublinbikes.

    My theory is they want to open them with a big political fanfare, maybe with Enda or the new Minister for Transport, Paschal Donohoe cutting the ribbon


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 14,088 Mod ✭✭✭✭monument


    They have 9 days left before they are past the completion deadline.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Cerdito wrote: »
    I am also keeping a close eye on these. I got the exact same response from dublinbikes.

    My theory is they want to open them with a big political fanfare, maybe with Enda or the new Minister for Transport, Paschal Donohoe cutting the ribbon

    If it doesn't happen by the end if July then it might be September as it could be hard to find a politician to cut a red tape in August !

    I'd say the Hueston stations are going to be hugely popular on the Dublin Bikes network. Anyone know approx how many bikes between the 5 stations in the vicinity ? 150 or so ? I can see them having teething problems at the beginning.


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