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  • #102
    kojack
    Registered Users Posts: 292 ✭✭kojack


    ghost86 wrote: »
    1996, so i presume you were a child when you got the certs. What are adults supposed to do to get these certs, do the lessons with the kids?:p

    Yeah I was only 11, if you have a look on www.iws.ie they have a list of courses being run in each county, so there might be something there.


  • #103
    kojack
    Registered Users Posts: 292 ✭✭kojack


    C-J wrote: »
    *mental image* :o we have plenty of time to prepare ourselves for that baptism of fire into the world of speedos!!

    I'm dreading it, I'l be investing in a 6 month supply of veet:D


  • #104
    2wsxcde3
    Registered Users Posts: 380 ✭✭2wsxcde3


    C-J wrote: »
    My first aid cert has expired as of last year,

    The cert can expire by a period of either 6 months or 1 year (i'm not sure) and still leave you eligible to re-new the cert with the easy 1 day course as opposed to having to start from scratch with the 3 day course or however long the place takes to give people a cert. All occupational first aid certs have to be renewed every 2 years with a one day re-freshers course. You may still be eligible to re-new the cert the easy way as opposed to having to start from scratch again.


  • #105
    P.C.Plod
    Registered Users Posts: 62 ✭✭P.C.Plod


    Thought this was for the panel? This thread will go the exact same way as the last one. This topic doesn't concern the panel and should be kept to the proper thread. Last time this happened it spiralled out of control and we lost a good thread.


  • #106
    P.C.Plod
    Registered Users Posts: 62 ✭✭P.C.Plod


    Unlike most people on here I am not presuming. I am telling you 100% that any changes made to the recruitment process will not apply to the current panel.
    The panel has been put through the public jobs recruitment process and is now finished with public jobs. All changes will be made at application level for the obvious reason that you cant apply unless you have the minimal requirements. We are at the latter end of recruitment and have completed this process. I assure you that the goalposts will not be moved.
    This is from a friend in the Dept of Justice Garda office. Also no talks have taken place nor has it even been mentioned to scrap the panel.
    As for when recruitment will start :o:o:o:o :confused:
    Nobody knows, they are still looking at current numbers and will hopefully decide after the next batch of retirements.


  • #107
    P.C.Plod
    Registered Users Posts: 62 ✭✭P.C.Plod


    ZoneAlarm wrote: »
    I also never said i wanted to go full time did i ? also who is to say if i was on the panel or not, if you where that interested in joining full time, why did yourself and others on the panel not join the reserve force, that way you would have got a look on the inside to see if this is really what you want to do, lots of joined the full time only to discover on a Friday or Saturday night, when a fight breaks out and you are stuck in the middle of it, or worse people spitting blood in your face, getting needle stuck, stabbed, look at the Garda that had a pot of boiling oil poured over him you then discover that this was not for you.

    That way you wont be wasting your time and the governments money training you for it then to leave, personally the reserves is the way to go first, then you can decide if its for you or not, i am no way jealous of anyone getting into the full time force, best of luck to anyone that does, just hope its what you want to do.

    As for making assumptions on who will get in first, nobody can say for sure what the government will do, they change their minds at the tip of a hat, only they know what is going on and even then do they really !!

    Lets put this to bed, I agree it is a good insight into the job but not the be all and end all.
    You have cleary stated on other threads that
    ZoneAlarm wrote: »
    Panel has well gone by the way side now, time frame for that would have well expired by now.
    So i think you best keep to the reserve thread and stay away from posting here as this thread no longer exists just like the panel


  • #108
    ZoneAlarm
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭ZoneAlarm


    P.C.Plod wrote: »
    So i think you best keep to the reserve thread and stay away from posting here as this thread no longer exists just like the panel

    Think i am entitled to my opinion on any thread on here, and who are you to tell me where to post and not post, this is a public forum and everyone is entitled to their opinions.


  • #109
    Hooch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭Hooch


    ZoneAlarm wrote: »
    Think i am entitled to my opinion on any thread on here, and who are you to tell me where to post and not post, this is a public forum and everyone is entitled to their opinions.

    ZoneAlarm infracted and banned for one week for trolling and breaching moderators direction (post 6).

    No further comment please.

    Thanks


  • #110
    P.C.Plod
    Registered Users Posts: 62 ✭✭P.C.Plod


    ghost86 wrote: »
    You are right CJ. The government are capable of anything. I am not on the panel but if I was then I would have joined the reserves while waiting since 2008 in order to, as you put it, tick every box possible.
    Thus, I do not understand why the people on the panel who are going into their fourth year of waiting have not joined the reserves. Surely if the panel were called to join tomorrow then would their not be questions asked as to why they did not join the reserves?



    I fully agree its great to have everything, (just in case) but my point was that new changes will not affect the current panels situation.
    The recommended requirements also don't make sense,
    Why have an ECDL?
    I work as a network technician with no qualifications(self learned) so can i not use a computer?
    Swimming cert?
    People have a fear of water, should they not be allowed to join and even if you have a cert to say you can swim this does not mean you are a lifeguard.
    OK first aid and driving licence do make sense but the others to me are meaningless.


  • #111
    C-J
    Closed Accounts Posts: 934 ✭✭✭C-J


    I think its better to just cover your own ass in the unlikely event that these things are suddenly needed. And there's no harm in doing them anyway, great to have! I've been reading over friends notes from templemore, I know it'll be a new curriculum but it's good to hit the ground running down there. There's also a few fetac night courses that would be great for any prospective garda to do, on the panel or not. I've done a couple on various topics relevant to ags, and am aiming to start a new one on challenging behaviour once i get the funds together. Though I presume the mods on here have already taken that course :p


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  • #112
    kojack
    Registered Users Posts: 292 ✭✭kojack


    C-J can I ask what courses you have done? I might try sign up for one or two, build up a bit of knowledge so i'm not completely clueless when we start.


  • #113
    C-J
    Closed Accounts Posts: 934 ✭✭✭C-J


    I've done introduction to counselling and also drug and alcohol addiction. The latter was great, also teaches motivational interviewing and intervention techniques as part of it. The lecturer said its an area that guards need to know more about, 80% of public order offences are caused through alcohol alone so its good knowin the science and therapies behind these things!


  • #114
    kojack
    Registered Users Posts: 292 ✭✭kojack


    Thanks for that, I'l have a look to see if there are courses like that in my area. That last course sounds interesting and something well worth doing.


  • #115
    C-J
    Closed Accounts Posts: 934 ✭✭✭C-J


    Try thelearningcurve.ie


  • #116
    Geri Boyle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭Geri Boyle


    I have moved, edited and deleted off topic posts.

    Posts in this thread should be relevant to the thread title as per Forum Charter.

    Those of you who feel you can post anything you like, anywhere you like on this forum, should familiarise themselves with the rules of this Forum, and the terms and conditions they agreed to when they signed up to Boards.ie

    Consider this a warning.

    Back on Topic Please.


  • #117
    toptrumps
    Registered Users Posts: 9 ✭toptrumps


    CJ ive had a look at that website, their drug and alcohol addiction program is starting up again soon.
    Ive emailed them about spaces left.
    How did you find this particular one.
    Way back in 08 when we got the great news I figured the wait wont be long enough to do any courses worthwhile etc.
    But it (as we're all painfully aware) just went on and on, so I figure it cant hurt.
    On another note, hows everyone keeping up their fitness during the wait?
    I performed quite well in the pct and loved the push pull, and id actually love to do it all over again to see how id do after getting the head down in the gym the last couple yrs.
    Not looking forward to the running in templemore though lol

    Actually forget that, Id RUN to templemore now if we all could get started!!!


  • #118
    C-J
    Closed Accounts Posts: 934 ✭✭✭C-J


    toptrumps wrote: »
    CJ ive had a look at that website, their drug and alcohol addiction program is starting up again soon.
    Ive emailed them about spaces left.
    How did you find this particular one.
    Way back in 08 when we got the great news I figured the wait wont be long enough to do any courses worthwhile etc.
    But it (as we're all painfully aware) just went on and on, so I figure it cant hurt.
    On another note, hows everyone keeping up their fitness during the wait?
    I performed quite well in the pct and loved the push pull, and id actually love to do it all over again to see how id do after getting the head down in the gym the last couple yrs.
    Not looking forward to the running in templemore though lol

    Actually forget that, Id RUN to templemore now if we all could get started!!!

    hi toptrumps, ya I got email today listing all upcoming courses so I might try do another in April! I'd really recommend that course, the most beneficial parts for me were a) learning how to do a brief intervention b) learning the different classifications of drugs and their effects and c) learning the extreme effects on society that drug and alcohol use/abuse have and their draining effect on emergency services. Go for it it'll be a great help to you, it certainly opened my eyes!


  • #119
    thelongwait08
    Registered Users Posts: 21 ✭thelongwait08


    Hi Everyone,

    2008 seems like so long ago now doesn't it? I remember how excited I had felt as i sat and filled out the online forms, spend hours looking at the pct test on youtube so I would be ready when i got to that stage, after our initial exams getting the results was one of the best and most fulfilling feelings i have ever had, but the nerves hit hard when I went to part 2 the interview and report writing because i knew that if i got past that hurdle i would breeze through the rest.

    after I got the results from part 2 it seemed like forever went by until i got the call for my medical i think it was something like 8 months, but after that everyone i spoke to said i would be in before christmas that year, the cold dark november intake and i believed them too, i would have put everything i had on it as i had my medical and pct within a few weeks of one another.

    pct passed with flying colors i'm all set for november, I sat into the car and drove back home and broke the news to all my friends and family that i had passed all the required stages to become a garda in training.

    2009 turned into 2010, 2010 turned into 2011 and now the new year has brought 2012, and with a new year i am still none the wiser as to where i stand with regards the intake that i passed all requirements for!

    As i get a bit older and as the days months and now years slip by wondering where i stand i am concerned with the reality of "am i wasting my time with waiting and should i start to look elsewhere for my career "

    has anyone else felt like this, i think the one thing that any of us almost deserve is a bit of acknowledgement to where we stand, as its not a panel that is hanging in the balance it is peoples lives, a lot can happen in 4 years, i would just like to be kept in the loop.

    just think that if boards.ie never existed what would we know?


  • #120
    HighTower88
    Registered Users Posts: 64 ✭✭HighTower88


    thelongwait08 wrote: »
    Hi Everyone,

    2008 seems like so long ago now doesn't it? I remember how excited I had felt as i sat and filled out the online forms, spend hours looking at the pct test on youtube so I would be ready when i got to that stage, after our initial exams getting the results was one of the best and most fulfilling feelings i have ever had, but the nerves hit hard when I went to part 2 the interview and report writing because i knew that if i got past that hurdle i would breeze through the rest.

    after I got the results from part 2 it seemed like forever went by until i got the call for my medical i think it was something like 8 months, but after that everyone i spoke to said i would be in before christmas that year, the cold dark november intake and i believed them too, i would have put everything i had on it as i had my medical and pct within a few weeks of one another.

    pct passed with flying colors i'm all set for november, I sat into the car and drove back home and broke the news to all my friends and family that i had passed all the required stages to become a garda in training.

    2009 turned into 2010, 2010 turned into 2011 and now the new year has brought 2012, and with a new year i am still none the wiser as to where i stand with regards the intake that i passed all requirements for!

    As i get a bit older and as the days months and now years slip by wondering where i stand i am concerned with the reality of "am i wasting my time with waiting and should i start to look elsewhere for my career "

    has anyone else felt like this, i think the one thing that any of us almost deserve is a bit of acknowledgement to where we stand, as its not a panel that is hanging in the balance it is peoples lives, a lot can happen in 4 years, i would just like to be kept in the loop.

    just think that if boards.ie never existed what would we know?

    I know how you feel but you should be glad that you got as far as a medical and a pct. I got a letter in September 08 saying that I passed the Interview. Haven't heard anything since then.

    But I totally agree when you in regards of an Acknowledgement of some sort. It's a total lack of respect and common courtesy that they don't drop us a letter or an email explaining what the situation is instead of relying on newspapers and Internet forums for all our information.


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  • #121
    C-J
    Closed Accounts Posts: 934 ✭✭✭C-J


    Having read reports in the Sunday papers (and all papers lately) and from speaking to family and friends in AGS, the slump in morale that exists in the organisation at the moment is astonishing. All that these members want to do is serve their communities, be seen to be proactive etc but its so hard when they have so little to work with. All agree, both members and civilians, that a fresh intake no matter how small would inject highly enthusiastic, energetic and motivated trainees into the force. You cant make a silk purse out of a sows ear which is precisely what shatter is doing, and shame on myself and others for believing his promises.


  • #122
    toptrumps
    Registered Users Posts: 9 ✭toptrumps


    Totally agree cj, I was hesitant enough to believe him but did so in the end.
    Dont know when this will all end for us.
    I know its been said plenty of times before but we have effectively put our whole lives on hold waiting for this.
    Had i been told after my physical that it would be three + yrs id have bought my house and got on with living my life.
    But no ive wasted three yrs not going on holidays 'incase the call comes' renting so can up and head down to templemore at the drop of a hat etc etc.
    Its beyond frustrating at this stage.
    On a slightly more positive note Ive booked myself onto a course starting in two weeks.
    Psychology of criminal behaviour. Keep the brain ticking over for a while I guess.


  • #123
    C-J
    Closed Accounts Posts: 934 ✭✭✭C-J


    Where is that course? Hearing that you're the same as me is so comforting! I have some days where I'm just so fed up with the whole thing. I'm a remarkably positive person, given the various trials and tribulations that life throws but this situation messes with your head hearing conflicting reports etc. I like you am renting, my boyfriend and I have debated buying in the current market but have been waiting for me to get my 'career'. Factor in also school enrolment for kids, not knowing where my base will be, hesitating before I renew my contract at work etc. Us panellers living in turmoil, granted there are so many out there crippled by the state of the nation but our situation is just so unpredictable. One positive is that when we do walk through that gate in Templemore, it'll be straight down to business and a positive investment for ags. I cant see anyone dropping out having waited this long!!


  • #124
    mac22
    Registered Users Posts: 19 ✭mac22


    Only found this thread today, hello again to all my fellow panel members, we'r not beaten down yet!!!


  • #125
    WilcoOut
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,778 ✭✭✭WilcoOut


    rumours started that the DFB panel has been scrapped.

    anyone heard this news?

    if its true, its big big news

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056528050

    (this post is intended to be helpful and not inflammatory.much love)


  • #126
    toptrumps
    Registered Users Posts: 9 ✭toptrumps


    It was in hartstown CJ and Ive just put down the phone to them after being informed 'due to lack of numbers the class will not be happening'
    Well thats just super ;-(
    I feel for you cj, with the rent/buy dilemma looming.
    Ive a 6yr old girl myself, and it doesnt make things easier constantly playing a guessing game!
    Think staying positive is all we have left at this stage!
    welcome mac22


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  • #127
    tweedledee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 435 ✭✭tweedledee


    FG are playing games at the moment. They have a strategy in place for sure that will see them cut cut cut for a period of time and low and behold you will see that in the run up to the next election FG will sing their own praises by saying how much money they saved and then they will start public sector recruitment campaigns to show the voters how much they care. Shatter will say that he managed, all by himself to get recruitment up and running again,coincidently just before a major election.
    They couldn't care less about the crime rate rising or the looooooong waiting lists for hospital beds, FG are here for several more years so cutting back means nothing to them, it's only when an election comes around that you will see the weeds in your front garden. I was slagged off a year ago when I said that electing FG will be the worst thing to happen to front line services in 20 years.But soo many people were singing the praises of the great Shatter!! Now the voters are reaping what they sowed. FG are the party of big business and wealth, two sectors that will be well protected under FG.Just look at the sly smirk on Enda Kenny's face in the Dail today as he spoke about paying unknown, unsecured banking gamblers. Thank you.


  • #128
    C-J
    Closed Accounts Posts: 934 ✭✭✭C-J


    Did anyone watch coppers on channel four last night? Behind the scenes of new recruits first day on the job in scotland, very interesting!!


  • #129
    Kaffy
    Registered Users Posts: 82 ✭✭Kaffy


    Hey i think i might be pre-panel; i got my lovely letter saying i passed my interview back in sept 2008 and im still waiting.....

    Its nice to find this thread and to see the other thread is gone - it got very stressful and is why i havent been back in so long.

    Im still trying to hold out hope for an intake this year :)
    Hope everyone is doing well!


  • #130
    C-J
    Closed Accounts Posts: 934 ✭✭✭C-J


    Welcome back kaffy! The more the merrier in the glass cage of emotion!


  • #131
    2wsxcde3
    Registered Users Posts: 380 ✭✭2wsxcde3


    Anyone know where todays announcment (that the final number of garda retirees by the end of feb will be 300) will put the current number of guards by 1st March?


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  • #132
    tweedledee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 435 ✭✭tweedledee


    approx 13500.


  • #133
    2wsxcde3
    Registered Users Posts: 380 ✭✭2wsxcde3


    Mr Shatter was on the six one news. He said hes bringing a proposal before government in the next month requesting the appointment of an appropriate number of guards to fill senior vacant posts. He didn't mention recruitment per say, unless he decides to tack some initiative about recruitment onto this proposal we'll find out in the next month.


  • #134
    tomswift
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1 ✭tomswift


    HighTower88 wrote: »
    I know how you feel but you should be glad that you got as far as a medical and a pct. I got a letter in September 08 saying that I passed the Interview. Haven't heard anything since then.

    But I totally agree when you in regards of an Acknowledgement of some sort. It's a total lack of respect and common courtesy that they don't drop us a letter or an email explaining what the situation is instead of relying on newspapers and Internet forums for all our information.

    Hi everyone,

    I'm in the same boat, passed interview in Oct 2008 and have'nt heard one word since. I joined the reserves in 2007 to help give me an insight into how the full time job would be. Have been enjoying it immensely....

    However, as the last few years have passed, I've become concerned that the current panel will not be taken on. My other concern is that I'm now 36 and I will not get another chance to apply.

    I too have had my life on hold for the past 4 years and am now wondering do I need to choose another career path and with the economy in the state its in, thats not going to be easy.


  • #135
    toptrumps
    Registered Users Posts: 9 ✭toptrumps


    Tom I really feel for you in your situation.
    I was 26 applying, I never had a problem with the age limit back then. Im turning 30 this year, and while I genuinely do believe I wont be waiting another five years and possibly loose my shot, Im genuinely becoming concerned about starting a new career at this stage.
    Id gladly join AGS at any age, But I dont want my age holding me back from anything whatsoever.
    The thoughts of another career in this economy are horrible. But its the thought of loosing out on my dream career as a member of an garda that really gets to me these days.


  • #136
    Graciefacey
    Registered Users Posts: 498 ✭✭Graciefacey


    Will der be any word of an intake in dail debate while they're getting approval on promotions today i wonder?


  • #137
    thekopend
    Registered Users Posts: 1,072 ✭✭✭thekopend


    Graciefacey wrote: »
    Will der be any word of an intake in dail debate while they're getting approval on promotions today i wonder?

    no.


  • #138
    Graciefacey
    Registered Users Posts: 498 ✭✭Graciefacey


    Manners cost nothing!


  • #139
    Sierra Oscar
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,528 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sierra Oscar


    Graciefacey wrote: »
    Will der be any word of an intake in dail debate while they're getting approval on promotions today i wonder?

    It was only brought up at the cabinet and is not due for discussion in the house itself.


  • #140
    Graciefacey
    Registered Users Posts: 498 ✭✭Graciefacey


    thats the kind of helpful response I was hoping for! Thanks


  • #141
    yogi16
    Registered Users Posts: 15 ✭yogi16


    The discussion on crime rates increasing or otherwise and its effect on the Irish citizen have no relevance. Its all about the almighty euro! Spend less, do without. The Gov has done it in social protection and health. Do you really think they care if there are not enough Gardaí to respond to a public order incident? Shatter should work a week of nights in a station with limited resources and that would change his tune.


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  • #142
    WilcoOut
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,778 ✭✭✭WilcoOut


    when was the garda panel started and when did it get frozen?

    seems the DFB one was formed in 2007, shelved with the moratorium (08 or 09 ish) and has now been scrapped in 2012


  • #143
    Graciefacey
    Registered Users Posts: 498 ✭✭Graciefacey


    WilcoOut wrote: »
    when was the garda panel started and when did it get frozen?

    seems the DFB one was formed in 2007, shelved with the moratorium (08 or 09 ish) and has now been scrapped in 2012
    You're obsessed with dfb panel. This panel was formed mainly of people who did the various stages in or around 08 or were offered places and deferred.


  • #144
    P.C.Plod
    Registered Users Posts: 62 ✭✭P.C.Plod


    Some people are obsessed with the panel being scrapped and negativity is pushing in everywhere.


    I was talking to an ex Chief Super at the weekend (Very close family friend) who always worked on the recruiting panels and still checks up from time to time to see of any movement.
    He said there are no talks of scrapping the panel and they have no intentions on scrapping this panel like they never scrapped panels before.

    Just wait patiently and it will come to us.

    Reserves will not be recruited directly and the changes made to future intakes does not affect the panel as it doesnt affect the course. Its just a way of cutting back on applications.

    The sh1t will hit the fan and soon enough and Shatter (worst justice minister ever) will panic and need to call the panel to keep people happy.
    This will also happen in nursing and teaching.
    The real aim of all these cuts in staff to get rid of alot of the admin staff sitting on their arses doing nothing.


  • #145
    Geansai
    Registered Users Posts: 164 ✭✭Geansai


    P.C.Plod wrote: »
    .
    He said there are no talks of scrapping the panel and they have no intentions on scrapping this panel like they never scrapped panels before.

    Please refer two posts up. They have indeed scrapped panels, such as the DFB.

    By the way, I'm not saying they will, or they should. However, it is a possibility. Lets hope for the people on the panel that they do go down this route, but it is not unthinkable, given the precedent set in the DFB.


  • #146
    u s e
    Closed Accounts Posts: 28 ✭u s e


    My dad is a current senior garda working in HQ and I can tell you that if there is to be recruitment this year or next it will be from the panel believe me or not.
    DFB is run by Dublin City Council so it doesnt apply to any garda panel which is under the remit of Dept. of Justice.The prison service panel established in 07/08 is still been used..does that mean garda one will be kept?No or it doesnt mean it wont be.until panel members get letters ye are safe.
    There is no word of recruitment among top gardai or govt..hard to see recruitment in the next few years.


  • #147
    P.C.Plod
    Registered Users Posts: 62 ✭✭P.C.Plod


    Geansai wrote: »
    P.C.Plod wrote: »
    .
    He said there are no talks of scrapping the panel and they have no intentions on scrapping this panel like they never scrapped panels before.

    Please refer two posts up. They have indeed scrapped panels, such as the DFB.

    By the way, I'm not saying they will, or they should. However, it is a possibility. Lets hope for the people on the panel that they do go down this route, but it is not unthinkable, given the precedent set in the DFB.

    Should have made it clearer, I was referring to panels for recruitment to AGS.


  • #148
    blueforce
    Registered Users Posts: 51 ✭✭blueforce


    u s e wrote: »
    My dad is a current senior garda working in HQ and I can tell you that if there is to be recruitment this year or next it will be from the panel believe me or not.
    DFB is run by Dublin City Council so it doesnt apply to any garda panel which is under the remit of Dept. of Justice.The prison service panel established in 07/08 is still been used..does that mean garda one will be kept?No or it doesnt mean it wont be.until panel members get letters ye are safe.
    There is no word of recruitment among top gardai or govt..hard to see recruitment in the next few years.

    To be honest I don't think anyone knows for sure, not even the commissioner. Everything is just hear-say. One person says the panel has been scrapped, next person says the panel are secretly being fitted for uniforms. One person says the reserves are being scrapped, someone else says there getting guns. It's all a waiting game until we hear anything.


  • #149
    Mouse pad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2 ✭Mouse pad


    Like others in this thread I'm also on the panel but whilst waiting I've kept my options open work wise. What I am wondering is that has anybody moved jobs whilst on the panel and/or changed address? If so, have they notified Garda HQ. Has anyone kept HQ updated if their circumstances has changed??


  • #150
    u s e
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    Your right blueforce take everything with pinch of salt,I know gardai that say it'll be 2016 before they recruit because certain units will be disbanded and redeployed to mainstream policing,new rota ,force been reduced to 12,000 etc but I cant see it been that long,hopefully wont be


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    Sierra Oscar
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    Out of interest, what is the longest time between an intake in An Garda Síochána since the foundation of the force? Anyone know?


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