What made you smile/frown/mad/sad/cry today-thread for all your emotional needs! V4

krudler · 24-02-2012 9:52pm

Seomra Mushie wrote: »

It's not like I don't understand what it's like to be unemployed, I have spent over a year in that situation. And you don't know what I'll be doing for that money. I hate this whole "You're lucky to have a job" mentality, it's such bullsh1t. When I was unemployed, my BF would feel bad about complaining about his job, but I told him to let it all out.

I agree, its a very Irish thing, this whole "shut up and be miserable" bs that people spout, there's always, always someone worse off than you, doesnt mean you cant be unhappy. I hate living month to month and being 30 years old and now having less money than I did at 25, thanks to my savings being crippled from a long term illness, you just spend it playing catchup, paying off bits on loans and all that. there's nothing at all wrong with valuing yourself more than the bare minimum, a friend of mine is great at negotiating his pay every year becuase he knows what he's worth to who he works for.

Seomra Mushie · 24-02-2012 10:00pm

krudler wrote: »

if it something you're already qualified in can you negotiate? or at least a higher wage after 12 months or something

It's something I do have some previous experience in, but it's my first job at that institution which means they start me at the bottom. It's actually a public service job, which I didn't realise until today, and that means strict payscales and increments. The next step up is pretty terrible. Best bet is work my arse off at this job, so that I can apply for higher paying ones in a year or two. At least the work is stimulating.

The Lovely Muffin · 24-02-2012 10:03pm

Seomra Mushie wrote: »

It's not like I don't understand what it's like to be unemployed, I have spent over a year in that situation. And you don't know what I'll be doing for that money. I hate this whole "You're lucky to have a job" mentality, it's such bullsh1t. When I was unemployed, my BF would feel bad about complaining about his job, but I told him to let it all out.

I didn't claim or suggest that you don't know what it is to be unemployed.

I simply stated that there are many people out there would would gladly do your job for less money.

You said your pay is "laughibly sh1te" and you "only" be getting €14 more than those on the minimum wage - which is why I picked up on your post.

You're right, I don't know what you'll be doing for that money, and I don't particularly want to know either.

I also never claimed or suggested that you (or anyone else) shouldn't complain about work etc.

Seomra Mushie · 24-02-2012 10:04pm

krudler wrote: »

I agree, its a very Irish thing, this whole "shut up and be miserable" bs that people spout, there's always, always someone worse off than you, doesnt mean you cant be unhappy. I hate living month to month and being 30 years old and now having less money than I did at 25, thanks to my savings being crippled from a long term illness, you just spend it playing catchup, paying off bits on loans and all that. there's nothing at all wrong with valuing yourself more than the bare minimum, a friend of mine is great at negotiating his pay every year becuase he knows what he's worth to who he works for.

Yup, I'm in the same boat. Left my last job to get on top of mental illness (depression and anxiety, now happily resolved). I'm delighted to get back into the game, and it is a great job experience-wise, but I'm 28 so to be earning so little at this stage of my life is a bit ****. I've never known what it's like to have a decent amount of money.

Seomra Mushie · 24-02-2012 10:05pm

The Lovely Muffin wrote: »

You said your pay is "laughibly sh1te" and you "only" be getting €14 more than those on the minimum wage - which is why I picked up on your post.

You're right, I don't know what you'll be doing for that money, and I don't particularly want to know either.

If you don't want to know, then I suggest not being so judgemental.

XxMCRxBabyxX · 24-02-2012 10:08pm

The Lovely Muffin wrote: »

I didn't claim or suggest that you don't know what it is to be unemployed.

I simply stated that there are many people out there would would gladly do your job for less money.

You said your pay is "laughibly sh1te" and you "only" be getting €14 more than those on the minimum wage - which is why I picked up on your post.

You're right, I don't know what you'll be doing for that money, and I don't particularly want to know either.

I also never claimed or suggested that you (or anyone else) shouldn't complain about work etc.

Those same people will then probably complain at their wage when they're earning it and trying to live a life on it.

It's also unfair on those who work hard for their wage and are then expected to feel guilty about it

Ths "be thankful for a job" crap is just that. Yes there are people struggling with no jobs, there are also hundreds more struggling with a job who can often end up less well off than those without jobs.

The Lovely Muffin · 24-02-2012 10:17pm

Seomra Mushie wrote: »

If you don't want to know, then I suggest not being so judgemental.

I apologise for coming across as judgemental, it's not how my posts were intended.

XxMCRxBabyxX wrote: »

Those same people will then probably complain at their wage when they're earning it and trying to live a life on it.

It's also unfair on those who work hard for their wage and are then expected to feel guilty about it
Ths "be thankful for a job" crap is just that. Yes there are people struggling with no jobs, there are also hundreds more struggling with a job who can often end up less well off than those without jobs.

Where did I say anyone should be thankful for having a job, income? I didn't.

You're right there are plenty more people out there with jobs who are struggling, I never disagreed with that.

And I wasn't trying to make anyone feel guilty.

Links234 · 24-02-2012 10:19pm

so, I know that I'm not supposed to shampoo my hair every day, as that can be bad for it, but damn I hate it when I don't shampoo!

feels wrong.

XxMCRxBabyxX · 24-02-2012 10:20pm

The Lovely Muffin wrote: »

I apologise for coming across as judgemental, it's not how my posts were intended.

Where did I say anyone should be thankful for having a job, income? I didn't.

You're right there are plenty more people out there with jobs who are struggling, I never disagreed with that.

And I wasn't trying to make anyone feel guilty.

It was implied...

There are plenty of people out there who would do your job, and for less money too.

Sorry for jumping on your post, it just gets to me when I see/hear people complaining about low wages, when there are thousands of people out there unemployed (myself included) who can barely make ends meet.

The Lovely Muffin · 24-02-2012 10:21pm

Links234 wrote: »

so, I know that I'm not supposed to shampoo my hair every day, as that can be bad for it, but damn I hate it when I don't shampoo! feels wrong.

+1 Links.

There's nothing like freshly washed, clean hair.

Have you tried dry shampoo for the days you don't wash? I don't use it myself, but have heard good things about it. Batiste is meant to be good and inexpensive too.

The Lovely Muffin · 24-02-2012 10:22pm

XxMCRxBabyxX wrote: »

It was implied...

Which was implied?

Me trying to make anyone feel guilty or me being judgemental?

I apologised for coming across as judgemental, as I said, it wasn't how my posts were intended.

And I apologise for making anyone feel guilty, again, it wasn't intended.

XxMCRxBabyxX · 24-02-2012 10:24pm

The Lovely Muffin wrote: »

Which was implied?

Me trying to make anyone feel guilty or me being judgemental?

I apologised for coming across as judgemental, as I said, it wasn't how my posts were intended.

And I apologise for making anyone feel guilty, again, it wasn't intended.

Maybe you didn't but that is how it came across. The whole "thankful" thing.

Lets leave it at that though. I'm not trying to start a fight. If you didn't mean to come across that way then all is good with me

cynder · 24-02-2012 10:24pm

Went for a walk to help with weight loss and train for marathon, an hour later had low blood sugars 3.2 and ending up scoffing my face as I was symptomatic. Went and ate twice as much calories I should have burned...... not good.

Acoshla · 24-02-2012 10:26pm

Links234 wrote: »

so, I know that I'm not supposed to shampoo my hair every day, as that can be bad for it, but damn I hate it when I don't shampoo! feels wrong.

Don't ever get caught in the cycle of washing your hair every day, it's so bad! It dries your hair out so much. I wash my hair 2-3 times a week, sometimes less as it stays tied up when I'm working so doesn't get touched or greasy for a few days, and my hair is really shiny and strong. That and not blow drying it.

Edit: I feel so old. The weekend of my birthday and I'm in bed at half 9, showered, all moisturised and cosy, going for birthday lunch after work tomorrow and then for a walk in the woods with our dog and boyfriend's baby nephew, before possibly enjoying a few Diet 7Up's in the pub and having an early night. A few years ago birthdays meant 2-3 nights out doing shots and staying up til all hours, what have I become??!

WesternNight · 24-02-2012 10:30pm

Acoshla wrote: »

A few years ago birthdays meant 2-3 nights out doing shots and staying up til all hours, what have I become??!

Sensible and hangover free!

Acoshla · 24-02-2012 10:32pm

WesternNight wrote: »

Sensible and hangover free!

Actually I never got bad hangovers before 2 years ago, now if I have one drink or 10 drinks I get the same hangover, banging headache and so tired, there's no middle ground! I used to go out 5-6 nights a week in college, get home at 6am and up for college at 8.30am where I used to actually be productive, and then do the whole thing again the next night, HOW??

WesternNight · 24-02-2012 10:41pm

Acoshla wrote: »

Actually I never got bad hangovers before 2 years ago, now if I have one drink or 10 drinks I get the same hangover, banging headache and so tired, there's no middle ground! I used to go out 5-6 nights a week in college, get home at 6am and up for college at 8.30am where I used to actually be productive, and then do the whole thing again the next night, HOW??

I've no idea :eek:

I'm the opposite though. I've never done the whole 'going out' thing. A handful of nights out at 18/19 and it confirmed to me that it's not for me!

(I've never even been properly drunk

)

Pembily · 24-02-2012 10:45pm

It was my bday too yesterday too and I went out and drank everything and I'm not well, thankfully it's nearly bed time!

Happy belated birthday Acoshla

LenaClaire · 24-02-2012 10:50pm

I think I have a chocolate hangover... too much chocolate today. Need to swear off the stuff for a while.

Links234 · 24-02-2012 10:51pm

Acoshla wrote: »

Don't ever get caught in the cycle of washing your hair every day, it's so bad! It dries your hair out so much. I wash my hair 2-3 times a week, sometimes less as it stays tied up when I'm working so doesn't get touched or greasy for a few days, and my hair is really shiny and strong. That and not blow drying it.

Ah, I've been washing it every day for ages

like, should I be tying it up in the shower, and not even getting it wet?

I've also heard from different people that when I was it, I should sometimes use conditioner, but not shampoo.

WesternNight · 24-02-2012 10:51pm

Pembily wrote: »

It was my bday too yesterday too and I went out and drank everything and I'm not well, thankfully it's nearly bed time!

Ah!

Belated happy birthday!

Links234 · 24-02-2012 10:57pm

Happy birthday Pembily!

Acoshla · 24-02-2012 11:04pm

Happy Belated Birthday Pembily!

Links234 wrote: »

Ah, I've been washing it every day for ages

like, should I be tying it up in the shower, and not even getting it wet?

I've also heard from different people that when I was it, I should sometimes use conditioner, but not shampoo.

Yeah you need to stop washing it every day, every 2-3 days is plenty. It'll be greasy for the first few times but it'll get better. I don't get my hair wet at all for 2-4 days, I washed it tonight purely because I knew I should but it still looked perfect and wasn't washed since Tuesday. But different people's hair behaves differently, mine is thick and straight, thinner or curlier hair loses it's shape and looks greasy faster.

x Purple Pawprints x · 24-02-2012 11:07pm

Happy belated birthday Pembily!

I only wash my hair every second day. I've never washed it 2 days in a row because I don't want to wash the colour out of it.

Links234 · 24-02-2012 11:11pm

Acoshla wrote: »

Yeah you need to stop washing it every day, every 2-3 days is plenty. It'll be greasy for the first few times but it'll get better. I don't get my hair wet at all for 2-4 days, I washed it tonight purely because I knew I should but it still looked perfect and wasn't washed since Tuesday. But different people's hair behaves differently, mine is thick and straight, thinner or curlier hair loses it's shape and looks greasy faster.

mine's quite fine and straight. I'll try to stop washing it every day. maybe cut down to every second day to begin with. hopefully it'll make a difference, 'cos my hair doesn't seem to be in great condition to tell the truth.

MissFlitworth · 24-02-2012 11:14pm

The Lovely Muffin wrote: »

Sorry for jumping on your post, it just gets to me when I see/hear people complaining about low wages, when there are thousands of people out there unemployed (myself included) who can barely make ends meet.

The problem can be though when you're working on a low wage, with all the associated costs of working away from your home. Ridiculously expensive public transport, rent, work clothes etc. etc. you'd actually be financially better off on the dole. Looking for a new job about 6 months ago and if it had been for 19k I couldn't have afforded to take it & live in Dublin, it just wouldn't have at all covered my costs of living. Wages have dropped like hell but it seems to me that the cost of living has just skyrocketed, especially when you consider the huge chunk of anything you earn that goes out in taxes before you even get paid <le sigh>

RacoonQueen · 24-02-2012 11:15pm

My hair is very thin, I've more or less no choice but to wash it every day, because I train and then shower so much (most days twice a day) and swim 3 or 4 times a week my hair probably spends more time wet than it does dry. Hate my hair. Used to be lovely and shiny and straight - now it's wavy and horrible.

The Big Red Button · 24-02-2012 11:17pm

The Lovely Muffin wrote: »

There are plenty of people out there who would do your job, and for less money too.

Sorry for jumping on your post, it just gets to me when I see/hear people complaining about low wages, when there are thousands of people out there unemployed (myself included) who can barely make ends meet.

There are also plenty of employed people who can barely make ends meet.

Also, having a job tends to involve more money than not having one. Travel expenses, food, work clothes, renting to live near work, etc. Personally I would be a hell of a lot better off financially if I didn't have a job, in fact I'd be pretty much loaded if I was at home and living off the dole, instead of working in an expensive city for a crappy wage! I do appreciate that I'm fortunate to have a job; however I've been in this job nearly three years, it's five days to payday and I'm living off tinned tuna and rice til then. I haven't had a holiday in years, I don't buy new clothes ever, I had far more disposable income when I was in college.

And, by the way, I didn't get my job "just" because I was lucky, I've worked my arse off all through college and through every job I could get since I was thirteen, just to work my way into a position where I could get a job! OK so there's some luck involved, but the job sure as hell wasn't just handed to me!

Seomra Mushie wrote: »

It's not like I don't understand what it's like to be unemployed, I have spent over a year in that situation. And you don't know what I'll be doing for that money. I hate this whole "You're lucky to have a job" mentality, it's such bullsh1t. When I was unemployed, my BF would feel bad about complaining about his job, but I told him to let it all out.

Exactly. I get that it's frustrating not being able to get a job, but it's fairly crap to resent others who have jobs.

Mars Bar · 24-02-2012 11:20pm

Links234 wrote: »

Ah, I've been washing it every day for ages

like, should I be tying it up in the shower, and not even getting it wet?

I've also heard from different people that when I was it, I should sometimes use conditioner, but not shampoo.

I was always under the impression that the natural greases in your hair is good for it (no idea if that's true!) so I purposely let it get a little greasy twice a week. Every time I wash it, I use both shampoo and conditioner.

Acoshla · 24-02-2012 11:25pm

Links234 wrote: »

mine's quite fine and straight. I'll try to stop washing it every day. maybe cut down to every second day to begin with. hopefully it'll make a difference, 'cos my hair doesn't seem to be in great condition to tell the truth.

Yep every second day would make a big difference to it. When I swim 2-3 times a week I might have to wash my hair 3-5 times in that week, then I just condition it well and don't blowdry it when possible, still keeps it nice and shiny.

herisson · 24-02-2012 11:27pm

just got word that me and 5 of my friends got the first aid course in college!!

wooop

The Lovely Muffin · 24-02-2012 11:30pm

Happy belated birthday Pembily.

Anyone see this?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2105899/The-moment-crazed-commuter-shoves-23-year-old-woman-Tube-tracks.html

Hope the thug gets caught, there is no excuse for what he did. :mad:

Pixie-Fairy wrote: »

just got word that me and 5 of my friends got the first aid course in college!!

wooop

Congrats Pixie-Fairy.

Best of luck with the course.

Links234 · 24-02-2012 11:32pm

I'll try keep the blow drying to a minimum too

in other news, I definitely think the facial mask I got made an improvement

I used it very sparingly first time, and I'm gonna leave it a few days before I use it again, but if its made a difference so far, it should be good. my skin definitely feels nicer already

and I seem to be keeping the weight off too!
I've still got a good bit to go, but it ain't that much! I think another stone will just about do it

I'm more happy with how I look now than I ever have been, and things are just getting better

Posy · 24-02-2012 11:35pm

Seomra Mushie wrote: »

I'm 28 so to be earning so little at this stage of my life is a bit ****. I've never known what it's like to have a decent amount of money.

At least if you're on the bottom rung, there is a top rung somewhere you can aim for. I'll probably be starting afresh career wise next year or so, so I'll be almost 30 and applying for unpaid internships etc.

But if it's something I want to do, that will get me somewhere, at least that's something! I'm currently earning a pittance in a crap job with awful hours and increasingly bad conditions and I'm at the highest I could be in the company. There is nowhere else to go. I've been on the same pay with them for over FIVE years now.
I was watching 'The Office' and Tim said "It's better to be at the bottom of a ladder you want to climb than half way up one you don't." At least when you get on the ladder, the only way is up!

herisson · 24-02-2012 11:38pm

The Lovely Muffin wrote: »

Congrats Pixie-Fairy.

Best of luck with the course.

thanks!!

also Happy Birthday Pembily

hope ya had an awesome day! xxx

Posy · 24-02-2012 11:40pm

Links234 wrote: »

so, I know that I'm not supposed to shampoo my hair every day, as that can be bad for it, but damn I hate it when I don't shampoo! feels wrong.

I usually wash my hair once a week! It's below waist length so just too much of a pain to do more often!

Links234 · 24-02-2012 11:41pm

Posy wrote: »

I usually wash my hair once a week! It's below waist length so just too much of a pain to do more often!

oh wow! that's looooooong! :eek:

must look amazing though!

Posy · 24-02-2012 11:43pm

My hair is pretty much what you see in my avatar pic!
(Obviously if it got greasy I'd wash it but it normally looks grand for at least 6 days after being washed!)

MissFlitworth · 24-02-2012 11:47pm

dunno whether to be embarrassed or proud that we've just polished off one of those ikea Daim bar tart things that says it serves '4 to 6' between 2 of us in 10 minutes

Links234 · 24-02-2012 11:48pm

thats unbelievable

I dunno if I could go that long without washing mine.

Novella · 24-02-2012 11:50pm

Happy belated birthday, Pem!

x Purple Pawprints x · 24-02-2012 11:50pm

Posy wrote: »

My hair is pretty much what you see in my avatar pic!
(Obviously if it got greasy I'd wash it but it normally looks grand for at least 6 days after being washed!)

OMG I would love that! I can't go more than 2 days because I have really greasy hair. Plus it's only chin length so I can't really tie it back properly.

Posy · 24-02-2012 11:51pm

MissFlitworth wrote: »

dunno whether to be embarrassed or proud that we've just polished off one of those ikea Daim bar tart things that says it serves '4 to 6' between 2 of us in 10 minutes

You can buy those in big sizes??? I thought they were only for sale in slices in the Ikea cafe?

Links234 · 24-02-2012 11:56pm

MissFlitworth wrote: »

dunno whether to be embarrassed or proud that we've just polished off one of those ikea Daim bar tart things that says it serves '4 to 6' between 2 of us in 10 minutes

oh me and my GF had some of that a while back, and it was gooood! it's one of the few cakes she can eat, 'cos it's gluten free. I wanted to get one for her as a treat.

speaking of which, I found a new gluten free beer I've not seen before, so picked that up as a little surprise for her

mistress shall be pleased

Lucyfur · 24-02-2012 11:57pm

I wash my hair twice a day. At least :pac:

MissFlitworth · 25-02-2012 12:05am

Posy wrote: »

You can buy those in big sizes??? I thought they were only for sale in slices in the Ikea cafe?

Oh yes. For about 4 quid you can bring an entire frozen one home.

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Posy · 25-02-2012 12:10am

MissFlitworth wrote: »

Oh yes. For about 4 quid you can bring an entire frozen one home.

You have LITERALLY just changed my life. :eek: :eek:

MissFlitworth · 25-02-2012 12:16am

Posy wrote: »

You have LITERALLY just changed my life. :eek: :eek:

If Ikea is a bit of an awkward trek for a cake I've gotten them (sans cream layer) in Tesco before as well

http://www.tesco.com/groceries/Product/Details/?id=262780947

and to help with the life changes, I've found that a hair bobbin can be used to extend the waist band of your jeans after a few entire almondy pie things to yourself

Links234 · 25-02-2012 12:16am

MissFlitworth wrote: »

Oh yes. For about 4 quid you can bring an entire frozen one home.

where can you buy one??

MissFlitworth · 25-02-2012 12:18am

Links234 wrote: »

where can you buy one??

The wee supermarket bit in Ikea

Or Tesco do a version as well, not sure if that one is gluten free though

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