What country has the most sexually liberated women

prinz · 27-05-2010 9:53pm

vodafoneproblem wrote: »

Well, I think you could somewhat justifiably define sexually liberated as being liberated from sex and our primal urges..

+1 it's a nonsenscal stand alone term.

heavyballs · 27-05-2010 9:54pm

other
Finland for sure

starbelgrade · 27-05-2010 9:59pm

grenache wrote: »

Who is the nameo of jebus voted 'USA'???!! The 20 people who did have obviously never been down deep south or in the mid-west, where women are often treated as second class citizens. About as sexually liberated as Peig Sayers. As for the 12 who voted 'Ireland', sure god love ye, ye obviously don't get out much.

For me it would have to be Holland. The Germans would be a close second. Ireland would be well down the list.

fryup wrote: »

English Slappers esp Essex Slappers

btw - Holland should be on the list

Ehm, Holland isn't a country.

Abrasax · 27-05-2010 10:10pm

starbelgrade wrote: »

Ehm, Holland isn't a country.

No-one told me.
I thought I was living there.

Hazys · 27-05-2010 10:17pm

prinz wrote: »

In my experience they dress more conservatively, they are not as confident in flaunting their bodies in a similar fashion that you'd see in Irish nightclubs which is due to the conservatism in dress, and they wouldn't be anywhere close to as open to discussing sex or sexual matters as the Irish would.

Contrary to popular belief SATC and The Hills etc do not actually represent most young American females.

Seriously American has by far the highest rates of teen pregnacies in the world, more than double than Ireland.

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/hea_tee_pre_percap-health-teenage-pregnancy-per-capita

USA is also way higher up than Ireland on the frequency of sex statistics:
http://www.swivel.com/workbooks/20665-Poll-Frequency-of-Sex

USA is on the list for most casual sex, Ireland isn't with the UK no 1
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1090612/Now-Britain-leading-world--promiscuity.html

Damn i must move to the UK...Essex here i come!

People arent lying when they voted the UK and US.

mise_me_fein1 · 27-05-2010 10:19pm

Hungarians maybe....

Which country has the most sexually frustrated males?

Abrasax · 27-05-2010 10:24pm

Jakkass wrote: »

If people choose to be more conservative on what limits they have, I don't think that means that they aren't "liberated" to make whatever choice they want or indeed that they are "chained". It seems to be a fallacious concept.

Certainly, so long as they are free to choose.
However conservatism or 'liberalism' towards sex is not necessarily a choice. Just as people develop sexual fetishes, due to imprints at an earlier age, so too can people be imprinted with varying sexual according to their upbringing. These conditioned choices are not choices at all, rather it is robotic behaviour according to a certain inputted program.
The breaking of these shackles would be another type of 'sexual liberalism.
'Love under will', if you will.

starbelgrade · 27-05-2010 10:24pm

mise_me_fein1 wrote: »

Which country has the most sexually frustrated males?

Italy, by a long shot.

K-9 · 27-05-2010 10:27pm

Hazys wrote: »

Seriously American has by far the highest rates of teen pregnacies in the world, more than double than Ireland.

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/hea_tee_pre_percap-health-teenage-pregnancy-per-capita

USA is also way higher up than Ireland on the frequency of sex statistics:
http://www.swivel.com/workbooks/20665-Poll-Frequency-of-Sex

USA is on the list for most casual sex, Ireland isn't with the UK no 1
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1090612/Now-Britain-leading-world--promiscuity.html

Damn i must move to the UK...Essex here i come!

People arent lying when they voted the UK and US.

Sexually liberated means the most teenage pregnancies, the highest frequency of sex and loads of casual sex?

Suppose it is AH.

Hazys · 27-05-2010 10:30pm

K-9 wrote: »

Sexually liberated means the most teenage pregnancies, the highest frequency of sex and loads of casual sex?

Suppose it is AH.

Its reasonably related statistics are probably better than hear say and opinion

fryup · 27-05-2010 10:38pm

mise_me_fein1 wrote: »

Which country has the most sexually frustrated males?

The Vatican

vodafoneproblem · 27-05-2010 11:02pm

You're assuming they're slaves to their sexuality, fryup. I would say they're less so, on average, than any country. And you could argue that the religious women living in the Vatican are the most sexually liberated as they're not slaves to it.

prinz · 27-05-2010 11:08pm

Hazys wrote: »

Seriously American has by far the highest rates of teen pregnacies in the world, more than double than Ireland..

Which has been linked to the deficiency in sex education and lack of openess about sexual activity etc. A socio-economi breakdown on the American figures would tell you a lot.

K-9 · 27-05-2010 11:14pm

Hazys wrote: »

Its reasonably related statistics are probably better than hear say and opinion

True, I'll concede the last 2 as they are debatable measures of sexual liberation, but to me, increased teen pregnancies shows a lack of sexual liberation.

Good God of almighty, this is what the pill promised. Sexual liberation of women with a dramatically reduced risk of pregnancy. Maybe something went wrong along the way?

starbelgrade · 27-05-2010 11:20pm

K-9 wrote: »

Good God of almighty, this is what the pill promised. Sexual liberation of women with a dramatically reduced risk of pregnancy. Maybe something went wrong along the way?

The pill gave as much sexual liberty to men as it did to women!

starbelgrade · 27-05-2010 11:21pm

vodafoneproblem wrote: »

You're assuming they're slaves to their sexuality, fryup. I would say they're less so, on average, than any country. And you could argue that the religious women living in the Vatican are the most sexually liberated as they're not slaves to it.

Suppression or denial is hardly what one could call freedom or liberty.

vodafoneproblem · 27-05-2010 11:32pm

starbelgrade wrote: »

Suppression or denial is hardly what one could call freedom or liberty.

I'd have to disagree with you there. Sometimes you have to deny lower instincts to give yourself the freedom to pursue and experience the higher things. Like I said, sexual liberty can mean liberty from it rather than being the liberty to be taken over by it.

K-9 · 27-05-2010 11:55pm

starbelgrade wrote: »

The pill gave as much sexual liberty to men as it did to women!

Exactly. My worry is that sexual liberation is maybe a lot about gratifying male sexual wants rather than true liberation for women. My worry is the likes of Loaded and Nuts magazines and women pandering to what "men" want in these types of mags, web sites.

Where's the liberation in that?

K-9 · 27-05-2010 11:58pm

starbelgrade wrote: »

The pill gave as much sexual liberty to men as it did to women!

In the particular point I was debating, I'd say No. Hugely increased rates in teenage pregnancies does not mean increased sexual liberation, for either sex!

starbelgrade · 28-05-2010 12:08am

K-9 wrote: »

Exactly. My worry is that sexual liberation is maybe a lot about gratifying male sexual wants rather than true liberation for women. My worry is the likes of Loaded and Nuts magazines and women pandering to what "men" want in these types of mags, web sites.

Where's the liberation in that?

It depends on who you listen to. Personally, I don't think it's very liberating for them to appear in **** mags. Kinda reminds me of the idea that Spice Girls re-invented "Girl Power" by getting teenage girls to dress like sluts.

brummytom · 28-05-2010 12:14am

spottyelephant wrote: »

UK tend to be hu-ers no matter what area you're in!

I wish

Dublin_Gunner · 28-05-2010 12:34am

brummytom wrote: »

I wish

Ah poor ol' Tom. One of these days dude, one of these days

K-9 · 28-05-2010 12:36am

starbelgrade wrote: »

It depends on who you listen to. Personally, I don't think it's very liberating for them to appear in **** mags. Kinda reminds me of the idea that Spice Girls re-invented "Girl Power" by getting teenage girls to dress like sluts.

Exactly again! I think a lot of the sexual liberation we think we have, is related to lads mags and indeed spice girl type "liberation".

Pandering to an extreme is not liberation. Women acting out what porn models do isn't liberation either or what Loaded or Nuts readers see as liberation.

I do think we have improved immensely over the last 20 years, but my worry is in a rush to react to the RC sexual extreme, people go to the other extreme. Extremes usually aren't good!

vicecreamsundae · 28-05-2010 1:01am

K-9 wrote: »

Exactly again! I think a lot of the sexual liberation we think we have, is related to lads mags and indeed spice girl type "liberation".

Pandering to an extreme is not liberation. Women acting out what porn models do isn't liberation either or what Loaded or Nuts readers see as liberation.

I do think we have improved immensely over the last 20 years, but my worry is in a rush to react to the RC sexual extreme, people go to the other extreme. Extremes usually aren't good!

i agree that pandering to male hetero desire does not equal sexual liberation, and particularly as this thread is about "sexually liberated women" i think it's funny that so many men seem to think sexual liberated countries are simply the ones where they've had the best sex.

i feel a sexually liberated woman is someone who does not feel shame or guilt around sex, someone who is educated about sex and techniques and stds and contraception and who can discuss it openly when necessary, and is someone who has sex on their own terms -they don't have sex just to make someone like them, or refrain from sex for fear the guy will judge her.
how many people she has slept with is irrelevant, whether her favourite position is missionary or revers cowgirl is irrelevant,whether she has some hang ups about her body or not is a different issue and whether she fancies and ****s boards.ie posters or not is most definitely irrelevant.

this poll can't generate an accurate answer anyway. for example, if i had to vote i would go with canadian girls, but thats because i lived there and knew canadian girls who were what i would call sexually liberated. there are also plenty of canadian women i wouldn't consider sexually liberated, i just didn't seem to hang out with them. same can be said for everyone who's shared their story of sleeping with a hot german/czech/english girl...what about all the girls you didn't sleep with/meet?!

starbelgrade · 28-05-2010 1:02am

K-9 wrote: »

Exactly again! I think a lot of the sexual liberation we think we have, is related to lads mags and indeed spice girl type "liberation".

Pandering to an extreme is not liberation. Women acting out what porn models do isn't liberation either or what Loaded or Nuts readers see as liberation.

I do think we have improved immensely over the last 20 years, but my worry is in a rush to react to the RC sexual extreme, people go to the other extreme. Extremes usually aren't good!

In many ways, I think women have taken a step back in recent years - partly due to the role models, partly due to their own aspirations... a lot of young women idolise & aspire to be footballers wives, tarty popstars, models etc - basically any career that trades on looks & appearance.

Instead of using the benefits of the political, cultural, and economic equality that feminism achieved, many women are happy to allow themselves simply to be objectified.

Whilst a lot of men have no problem with this (more tits & ass to see!), it hasn't been something driven by men, but more by women themselves.

In some ways, women are their own worst enemies.

K-9 · 28-05-2010 1:19am

=starbelgrade;66107986

In some ways, women are their own worst enemies.

Just as many men are their own worst enemies in that they perceive their value or worth, in what the opposite sex, women, want or "desire"?

So, yes, women are often their own worst enemies in that regard. So are men. Maybe this isn't dependent on each sex but relates to both sexes?

starbelgrade · 28-05-2010 1:24am

K-9 wrote: »

Just as many men are their own worst enemies in that they perceive their value or worth in what the opposite sex want or "desire".

I'm not sure that's true. I think men often base their self worth on their achievements & that our role models have always been men who achieve - whether through business, sport, technology, science etc & that has been a constant throughout the decades, unlike it has been for women.

Though I could be wrong.

Raekwon · 28-05-2010 1:29am

No Czech Rep, Slovakia, Hungary or Holland in the poll??? :eek:

Where do you think all of the non-US porn comes from??? :pac:

Hyperbullet · 28-05-2010 1:37am

Raekwon wrote: »

No Czech Rep, Slovakia, Hungary or Holland in the poll??? :eek:

Where do you think all of the non-US porn comes from??? :pac:

Leitrim??

IT-Guy · 28-05-2010 2:00am

vicecreamsundae wrote: »

i agree that pandering to male hetero desire does not equal sexual liberation, and particularly as this thread is about "sexually liberated women" i think it's funny that so many men seem to think sexual liberated countries are simply the ones where they've had the best sex.

i feel a sexually liberated woman is someone who does not feel shame or guilt around sex, someone who is educated about sex and techniques and stds and contraception and who can discuss it openly when necessary, and is someone who has sex on their own terms -they don't have sex just to make someone like them, or refrain from sex for fear the guy will judge her.
how many people she has slept with is irrelevant, whether her favourite position is missionary or revers cowgirl is irrelevant,whether she has some hang ups about her body or not is a different issue and whether she fancies and ****s boards.ie posters or not is most definitely irrelevant.

this poll can't generate an accurate answer anyway. for example, if i had to vote i would go with canadian girls, but thats because i lived there and knew canadian girls who were what i would call sexually liberated. there are also plenty of canadian women i wouldn't consider sexually liberated, i just didn't seem to hang out with them. same can be said for everyone who's shared their story of sleeping with a hot german/czech/english girl...what about all the girls you didn't sleep with/meet?!

QFT!

I always thought Irish women were sexually liberated but it's only when I went abroad a few times and had had a few encounters with women of different nationalities that I saw the way Irish women talked about sex was for effect and reaction, bluntness for the sake of it, a game of one-upmanship. Then I grew up a bit more and realised only some Irish women are like that and a few in my group of friends were like that but not all. As a country sexually, I think we're classy and getting more open minded.

Now when we're on hols, all inhibitions and decorum are out the window!

Son Of A Vidic · 28-05-2010 2:56am

Liberated from what????

philologos · 28-05-2010 4:44am

Abrasax wrote: »

Certainly, so long as they are free to choose.
However conservatism or 'liberalism' towards sex is not necessarily a choice.

I would say, that it is definitely a choice. You decide how you are going to live your life, are you going to have more partners or are you going to aim to remain monogamous. For me that would be definitely a choice.

Abrasax wrote: »

Just as people develop sexual fetishes, due to imprints at an earlier age, so too can people be imprinted with varying sexual according to their upbringing.

There is a difference between a "fetish" and how "liberal" one is about who they have sex with. A lot of people would rightly put up the criteria that they would want to be in love with someone before engaging with them sexually at the very least, if not marriage.

Abrasax wrote: »

These conditioned choices are not choices at all, rather it is robotic behaviour according to a certain inputted program.
The breaking of these shackles would be another type of 'sexual liberalism.
'Love under will', if you will.

I don't think there is a "type" or that indeed "sexual liberation" is indeed a useful or correct term to use. People decide how they are going to live their lives. I think the term also casts a negative light on those who wish to hold conservative views on the subject as if we are "chained".

flanum · 28-05-2010 5:37am

--Kaiser-- wrote: »

<grabs popcorn>

is this in the same league these days as "yore ma"?

Nulty · 28-05-2010 5:59am

vicecreamsundae wrote: »

i agree that pandering to male hetero desire does not equal sexual liberation, and particularly as this thread is about "sexually liberated women" i think it's funny that so many men seem to think sexual liberated countries are simply the ones where they've had the best sex.

i feel a sexually liberated woman is someone who does not feel shame or guilt around sex, someone who is educated about sex and techniques and stds and contraception and who can discuss it openly when necessary, and is someone who has sex on their own terms -they don't have sex just to make someone like them, or refrain from sex for fear the guy will judge her.
how many people she has slept with is irrelevant, whether her favourite position is missionary or revers cowgirl is irrelevant,whether she has some hang ups about her body or not is a different issue and whether she fancies and ****s boards.ie posters or not is most definitely irrelevant.

this poll can't generate an accurate answer anyway. for example, if i had to vote i would go with canadian girls, but thats because i lived there and knew canadian girls who were what i would call sexually liberated. there are also plenty of canadian women i wouldn't consider sexually liberated, i just didn't seem to hang out with them. same can be said for everyone who's shared their story of sleeping with a hot german/czech/english girl...what about all the girls you didn't sleep with/meet?!

well said....again!:rolleyes:

Godsentme · 28-05-2010 6:16am

Ireland..

More specifically..Wexford...

Much more specifically... New Ross...

To be exact...No. 27

GuanYin · 28-05-2010 6:40am

Dudess wrote: »

[AH]Irish girls are a bunch of frigid slappers. :mad:[/AH]

You attack warships?

PK2008 · 28-05-2010 9:13am

vicecreamsundae wrote: »

i feel a sexually liberated woman

They're the best ones to feel

Kasabian · 28-05-2010 9:24am

Why am I getting the feeling that most people voting on this have only had contact with women from other countries via their search engine.

johnny_knoxvile · 28-05-2010 9:27am

the Island of Lesbos

Lando Griffin · 28-05-2010 9:30am

North Korea. Who knows?

cock robin · 28-05-2010 9:35am

The women of Lesbania

Abrasax · 28-05-2010 9:38am

Jakkass wrote: »

I would say, that it is definitely a choice. You decide how you are going to live your life, are you going to have more partners or are you going to aim to remain monogamous. For me that would be definitely a choice.

We seem to decide how we are going to live our lives. I maintain most of us run according to the programmes that have been inputted and it is natural to engage in rationalisations to justify our behaviour to ourselves.
But we're getting into the debate about free will versus determinism and that's outsite the remit of this thread.

There is a difference between a "fetish" and how "liberal" one is about who they have sex with. A lot of people would rightly put up the criteria that they would want to be in love with someone before engaging with them sexually at the very least, if not marriage.

It just seems to me me that just as a fetish type behaviour can be imprinted, due to some childhood incident, and then robotically and slavishly adhered to, so too can notions of sexual conservatism or so-called liberalism.
Interesting that your own 'free choice' is in accord with Christian teachings and that this the 'right' way to behave.

fryup · 28-05-2010 11:11am

Looks like Brit girls and in particular English girls are gonna win this poll. (up the poll

)

Well when i was travelling in australia many moons ago staying in the hostels & backpackers..i would come across many randy girls of different nationalites..but by far the randiest were ...yes you guess it...the english girls.

Sometimes you didn't even have to chat them up they'd just hop into bed with you no questions asked.

If there's any english girls out there reading this can you please explain why you are so randy (not that i'm complaining;)) is there something in the water or what??

punchdrunk · 28-05-2010 11:20am

there are 18 very deluded people among us...

Dublin_Gunner · 28-05-2010 11:47am

punchdrunk wrote: »

there are 18 very deluded people among us...

Yeah, those French women wouldn't know how to shag if you covered your 'baguette' with Garlic Mustard.

On another note, the poll IMO should be changed to

"In your opinion, which country has the easiest women"

panda100 · 28-05-2010 11:47am

Sweden without a doubt has the most sexually liberated populations. They've proper sex ed,sexuality and sex are not taboo's,women aren't sexually objectified to the same extent as they are in UK and US.

I can't believe people think the US has sexually liberated women? A country where women are neuroticlly obsessed with shaving their vagina's,the highest rate of plastic surgery, and where a significant percent of the population are right wing Christians?? How on earth is that sexual confidence and liberation??

Dublin_Gunner · 28-05-2010 11:50am

panda100 wrote: »

Sweden without a doubt has the most sexually liberated populations. They've proper sex ed,sexuality and sex are not taboo's,women aren't sexually objectified to the same extent as they are in UK and US.

I can't believe people think the US has sexually liberated women? A country where women are neuroticlly obsessed with shaving their vagina's,the highest rate of plastic surgery, and where a significant percent of the population are right wing Christians?? How on earth is that sexual confidence and liberation??

Christ that must be painful!

old_aussie · 28-05-2010 11:50am

Australia has the most.

philstar · 28-05-2010 12:03pm

fryup wrote: »

If there's any english girls out there reading this can you please explain why you are so randy (not that i'm complaining;)) is there something in the water or what??

well i'm not english or a girl:P

but my theory is this.......no religon no guilt.....religon is more or less gone out the window in the UK hardly anyone practices

so the no fear of god factor or guilt has alot to do with it imo, women and men feel free to do what they like when they like with whoever they like:)

massdebater · 28-05-2010 12:06pm

Joe Cool wrote: »

A mass-debate?

Sorry.

thanks for the mention! :pac:

What country has the most sexually liberated women

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