Wrestling books.

flahavaj · 29-10-2008 11:22pm

rovert wrote: »

The Story of the Development of NWATNA: A New Concept in Pay-Per-View Programming by Jerry Jarrett

Is this as atrocious as it sounds!?

rovert · 29-10-2008 11:24pm

callaway92 wrote: »

Wuold Terry Funks be a good read..would be interestred in what he says about Chainsaw Charlie/WWF etc

Terry's book is the best out of the Race, Funk and Dusty trio it reads in Terry's oh gosh darn it delivery it is so much fun and he has had an amazing career. People say it is too short but aint word count wise it just that the book needs to cover so much ground . Chainsaw Charlie was a minor part of his career.

EdK · 29-10-2008 11:24pm

brick tamland wrote: »

anyone read the million dollar mans?

was in between that and Foleys 3rd recently when i was on holiday. went for foleys and was sorry i did. might still get it though

Started it tonight im about 75 pages from the end its 240 pages its ok nothing too special,in between every paragraph there are paragraphs from loads of other well known wrestling personalities, Heenan, Funks, Tully,Arn, JJ Dillon, Terry Taylor,Harley Race, Pritchard etc about Ted and while its a nice touch I feel in interupts the continuity of the book but thats just my opinion

Machismo Fan · 29-10-2008 11:29pm

rovert wrote: »

Nope I gained a lot of respect for him after it.

Personally I found his book really frustrating. I thought Batista came across as arrogant and ignorant and the amount of cursing really put me off. Another thing was the random bios. of wrestlers that I saw as nothing but filler and I sincerely doubt he wrote/spoke himself, those got on my nerves. I didn't actually finish it as I said but I have a bit of a backlog book wise so I might not ever get around to finishing it.

rovert · 29-10-2008 11:30pm

flahavaj wrote: »

Is this as atrocious as it sounds!?

**** no it is a great business book and a pretty good Wrestling book. It is an unedited diary of the start up of NWATNA. Anyone who has aspirations or fantasies about becoming a promoter on any level it is a must read. It is notable for Jerry's serious :rolleyes: at Jeff and Vince Russo, all the negotiations with Wrestlers and their ridiculous demands, raising finance, WWE's alleged attempt at sabotage, the embezzlement by a PPV representative that nearly bankrupted the company and being saved by Dixie Carter/Panda Energy.

Machismo Fan · 29-10-2008 11:34pm

rovert wrote: »

The Story of the Development of NWATNA: A New Concept in Pay-Per-View Programming by Jerry Jarrett

The Rock

Any idea on where to pick up the TNA book on the relative cheap and is The Rocks book worth a read?

rovert · 29-10-2008 11:41pm

Machismo Fan wrote: »

Any idea on where to pick up the TNA book on the relative cheap

It aint the longest book in the word so get ass raped for £80 on Amazon for it, Highspots had it cheap when I bought last year.

Machismo Fan wrote: »

The Rocks book worth a read?

It is typical Wrestling book until he reaches WWE and then it is Rock in promo mode recapping his matches. ****e

Machismo Fan · 29-10-2008 11:48pm

Has anybody read Arn Anderson's book, wondering is it worth a look?

rovert · 29-10-2008 11:57pm

Machismo Fan wrote: »

Has anybody read Arn Anderson's book, wondering is it worth a look?

The guy is a mongo, I know he wrote it in 1997 but he kayfabes (talks as if Wrestling is real) for most of it. Much like still talks like Wrestling is real on DVDs in 2008! It you are a big NWA and Arn fan it is okay. I know I forgot it on my list but I read this after my first two books Pure Dynamite and Have a Nice Day, bad idea.

Edit: Just remembered I read Missy Hyatts too. Yeah I know.

ShawnRaven · 30-10-2008 12:42am

F*cking hell rovert, that's a serious amount of reading! respect.

EdK · 30-10-2008 12:44am

Just finished DiBiases wasnt bad,having one of his wrestling buddies put him over in every second paragraph was a bit much I thought

Didnt like the last few chapters because they are very God/religion based not something I enjoy but that seems to feature heavily in wrestling bios

Alot of the book besides Ted accounting his career is like a tribute the last 2-3 pages are written by his wife and kids telling how great he is as a father and husband (along with countless bits from other wrestlers as mentioned)

Wasnt bad but was the usual wrestling formula started small, made it big, got carried away with women,drink,drugs etc, almost lost it all, reformed and is now a better man for the experience

rovert · 30-10-2008 12:48am

ShawnRaven wrote: »

F*cking hell rovert, that's a serious amount of reading! respect.

Just trying to hide them all from non fans at short notice who come have the pleasure of visiting my bedroom deserves your respect.

EdK wrote: »

Just finished DiBiases wasnt bad,having one of his wrestling buddies put him over in every second paragraph was a bit much I thought

Didnt like the last few chapters because they are very God/religion based not something I enjoy but that seems to feature heavily in wrestling bios

Alot of the book besides Ted accounting his career is like a tribute the last 2-3 pages are written by his wife and kids telling how great he is as a father and husband (along with countless bits from other wrestlers as mentioned)

Wasnt bad but was the usual wrestling formula started small, made it big, got carried away with women,drink,drugs etc, almost lost it all, reformed and is now a better man for the experience

Is this the WWE one?

Is there is much on Mid South/UWF?

flahavaj · 30-10-2008 1:16am

rovert wrote: »

Is there is much on Mid South/UWF?

Not to drift off topic but I've been watching some of this lately, namely the discs from the DVDVR project. Great stuff. Seeing DiBiease's work down there makes you realise just how criminally misused he was by Vince. He was a f*cking BEAST back in the territories. Ditto Jim Duggan.

EdK · 30-10-2008 1:18am

rovert wrote: »

Just trying to hide them all from non fans at short notice who come have the pleasure of visiting my bedroom deserves your respect.

Is this the WWE one?

Is there is much on Mid South/UWF?

Not too much its all kind of choppy and condensed

ShawnRaven · 30-10-2008 1:50am

rovert wrote: »

Just trying to hide them all from non fans at short notice who come have the pleasure of visiting my bedroom deserves your respect.

I always knew you were a victim of some sort of bullying to justify your bullishness and stubbornness at times. Not like that's a bad thing. What doesn't kill us only makes us stronger and all that.

CMpunked · 30-10-2008 2:09am

Rovert, a few questions:

Firstly, What out of your very impressive list would be your top 5 books?

And also, The rise and fall of ecw; I've heard it's just a book version of the dvd. Is that true?

ShawnRaven · 30-10-2008 2:21am

Comic-Book-Guy wrote: »

Rovert, a few questions:

Firstly, What out of your very impressive list would be your top 5 books?

And also, The rise and fall of ecw; I've heard it's just a book version of the dvd. Is that true?

Don't wait up for an answer, that will be posted around 6.50. According to his usual posting routine.

Oh jesus, i need a break from boards! Off for the weekend though!

CMpunked · 30-10-2008 2:31am

ShawnRaven wrote: »

Don't wait up for an answer, that will be posted around 6.50. According to his usual posting routine.

Oh jesus, i need a break from boards! Off for the weekend though!

Yeah i thought that too, he has a strange routine.

Off to anywhere nice man?

ShawnRaven · 30-10-2008 2:42am

Comic-Book-Guy wrote: »

Yeah i thought that too, he has a strange routine.

Nah, he posts from work, comes home then posts from there.

Off to anywhere nice man?

Off to the UK to spend Halloweenie weekend with a bunch of Goths at Whitby Goth Weekend, it's kinda like the ****** for Goths, minus the scumbags in tents. I dumped my goth image over a decade ago, but still love the music.

CMpunked · 30-10-2008 2:44am

ShawnRaven wrote: »

Off to the UK to spend Halloweenie weekend with a bunch of Goths at Whitby Goth Weekend, it's kinda like the ****** for Goths, minus the scumbags in tents. I dumped my goth image over a decade ago, but still love the music.

Think my mate is going to that, is it in wales?

ShawnRaven · 30-10-2008 3:02am

Comic-Book-Guy wrote: »

Think my mate is going to that, is it in wales?

Nah, The Gathering generally takes place in Wales in January (which i'm also going to), Whitby is in Yorkshire.
I think we'd be better off taking the rest of this to PM before it goes off topic!

rovert · 30-10-2008 7:50am

flahavaj wrote: »

Not to drift off topic but I've been watching some of this lately, namely the discs from the DVDVR project. Great stuff. Seeing DiBiease's work down there makes you realise just how criminally misused he was by Vince. He was a f*cking BEAST back in the territories. Ditto Jim Duggan.

WALKING TALL. Im watching the Memphis Set at the mo.

Comic-Book-Guy wrote: »

Firstly, What out of your very impressive list would be your top 5 books??

Ill get back to you on that

Comic-Book-Guy wrote: »

And also, The rise and fall of ecw; I've heard it's just a book version of the dvd. Is that true?

Yep with a few more stories here and there.

ShawnRaven wrote: »

Don't wait up for an answer, that will be posted around 6.50. According to his usual posting routine.

Bull****

ShawnRaven · 30-10-2008 3:32pm

rovert wrote: »

Bull****

Not really dude, i've been pulling overnighters the last few nights, you're usually gone by 12.30, and back online around 6.40-6.50.

Sure look at the time you posted that at!

rovert · 30-10-2008 3:36pm

ShawnRaven wrote: »

Not really dude, i've been pulling overnighters the last few nights, you're usually gone by 12.30, and back online around 6.40-6.50.
Sure look at the time you posted that at!

Way to miss the joke dude.

ShawnRaven · 30-10-2008 3:50pm

rovert wrote: »

Way to miss the joke dude.

Sorry, not long awake and we're out of caffeine in the place!

To get back on topic, EdK (and anyone else who read DiBiase's second book, the WWE publication), anyone else notice the criminal amount of mistakes in it? The one that stood out to me was 9 pages in, where he says Andre slammed Hogan and for the false pin, when in actuality it was a belly to back suplex, a move Andre was well noted for before finishing a match.

Also according to his book, Hogan grabs both Hebners and flings em over the top, which didn't happen either. Earl threw Dave over the top first, then Hogan threw Earl over.

Stupid errors like that made me put the book down and leave it til last.

EdK · 30-10-2008 3:52pm

haha lay off the all nighters, can't believe you missed that

EdK · 30-10-2008 3:57pm

ShawnRaven wrote: »

Sorry, not long awake and we're out of caffeine in the place!

To get back on topic, EdK (and anyone else who read DiBiase's second book, the WWE publication), anyone else notice the criminal amount of mistakes in it? The one that stood out to me was 9 pages in, where he says Andre slammed Hogan and for the false pin, when in actuality it was a belly to back suplex, a move Andre was well noted for before finishing a match.

Also according to his book, Hogan grabs both Hebners and flings em over the top, which didn't happen either. Earl threw Dave over the top first, then Hogan threw Earl over.

Stupid errors like that made me put the book down and leave it til last.

Yeah details were shoddy and he mentioned some things 2-3 times certainly far from the best wrestling bio I've ever red, didnt read it in one night because I couldn't put it down only because a have a growing reading list

ShawnRaven · 30-10-2008 3:59pm

EdK wrote: »

haha lay off the all nighters, can't believe you missed that

Not for the want of trying, i'm not great the minute i wake up though, i've missed sillier things that that before.

EdK · 30-10-2008 4:03pm

You just know Rovert was counting down the seconds before hitting the submit post button too

Red Sleeping Beauty · 30-10-2008 4:22pm

ShawnRaven wrote: »

Sorry, not long awake and we're out of caffeine in the place!

To get back on topic, EdK (and anyone else who read DiBiase's second book, the WWE publication), anyone else notice the criminal amount of mistakes in it? The one that stood out to me was 9 pages in, where he says Andre slammed Hogan and for the false pin, when in actuality it was a belly to back suplex, a move Andre was well noted for before finishing a match.

Also according to his book, Hogan grabs both Hebners and flings em over the top, which didn't happen either. Earl threw Dave over the top first, then Hogan threw Earl over.

Stupid errors like that made me put the book down and leave it til last.

SOme older wrestlers have lousy memories.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WV6mf9ijX8s

ShawnRaven · 30-10-2008 5:02pm

EdK wrote: »

You just know Rovert was counting down the seconds before hitting the submit post button too

Must have sucked if he got into work earlier than usual!

flahavaj · 30-10-2008 7:53pm

rovert wrote: »

WALKING TALL. Im watching the Memphis Set at the mo.

I've this next on the list. They're doing 80's New Japan next. Tiger Mask/Dynamite goodness ahoy!

Bull****

I laughed this morning when I read this.

rovert · 30-10-2008 11:13pm

flahavaj wrote: »

I've this next on the list. They're doing 80's New Japan next. Tiger Mask/Dynamite goodness ahoy!

If you like late 1990's Attitude Era brawling you'll love the 80s Memphis set. Randy Savage and Jimmy Hart in Memphis are WAY better than in WWF. The Extras discs are fantastic too.

jayhaitch2 · 31-10-2008 12:41am

I've read a couple of the WWE Bios. One and Three of Foleys, Lawlers, Angles, Hogan, Austin, Micheals and Flairs. I've also read the death of WCW and although he is in the WWE, Chris Jerichos book is technically not a WWE book.

Some where very good,(Death of WCW, Foley one, Jericho) they approached the subject objectively and where as honest as a writer can be in those situation.

A lot of the WWE ones where pretty much fluff peices. Austins was so ridiculously boring considering he was the main man in Sports Entertainment for a couple of years.

Hogans is typically Hogan.

I found Lawlers,Micheals and Flairs to interesting if not the most well written books ever.

I have said before that I believe that Mick Foley was a great guy when he wrote his first book and around the time of Beyond the Mat. I believe these two success catapulted him into a position in sports entertainment that he may not have achieved purely on his wrestling persona. This in turn created something of superstar ego and this manifests itself in his third book. For me, the Hardcore Diaries show that, rightly or wrongly, Mick Foley believes his hype.

Kurt Angles book at the time was disappointing. However with the passing of time and the collating of knowledge is a wonderful thing. Examples of the single minded egotism and almost reckless regard for his own well being that has been discussed many a times by the Internet Wrestling Community are there all the way through the book. Especially in relation to winning his gold medal.

One book made me so sad and frustrated. It brought a tear to my to realise what a waste the loss of Eddie Guerrero was. To read how he had struggled with personal demons and overcame them to get his life back on track and get to the top of the profession that he had been born into. To hear a man so grateful to be in his privilaged position after being in one where everything he held dear had been almost thrown away by him was heartbreaking. Knowing now what would be his eventual fate, to hear him praise and thank god for everything made me so angry,as a borderline athiest and yet I could almost envy Eddies beliefs because I felt if thats what helped him become who he became well then I'm grateful too.

A very sad book.

Next I can't wait to read Brets book and I'll start looking into some of the other books mentioned on this thread

Reganio 2 · 31-10-2008 1:47am

Just wondering are their any bricks and mortar shops in Dublin that sell wrestling books? Or a very trustwrothy site to buy them on not ebay though?

Only wrestling book I have ever got is Mick Foley's first which I thought was a great book, and I only got that at a charity fair lol. Seen it and grabbed it.

EdK · 31-10-2008 1:54am

Reganio 2 wrote: »

Just wondering are their any bricks and mortar shops in Dublin that sell wrestling books? Or a very trustwrothy site to buy them on not ebay though?

Only wrestling book I have ever got is Mick Foley's first which I thought was a great book, and I only got that at a charity fair lol. Seen it and grabbed it.

http://www.bookdepository.co.uk/WEBSITE/WWW/WEBPAGES/homepage.php

Good site has a good few wrestling books, free quick delivery and quite reasonable prices

ShawnRaven · 31-10-2008 2:03am

rovert wrote: »

Randy Savage and Jimmy Hart in Memphis are WAY better than in WWF. The Extras discs are fantastic too.

Oh f*ck yes. I got a loan of the Wrestling Gold set a few years back, pissed off i never made a dupe, but i was under a lot of time constraints at the time and blank media was still expensive. But some of the Savage matches on that knocks spots of Savages best work in WWE

And Savage had a lot of awesome work in WWE.

rovert · 31-10-2008 8:07am

ShawnRaven wrote: »

Oh f*ck yes. I got a loan of the Wrestling Gold set a few years back, pissed off i never made a dupe, but i was under a lot of time constraints at the time and blank media was still expensive. But some of the Savage matches on that knocks spots of Savages best work in WWE

And Savage had a lot of awesome work in WWE.

There are better matches on the set. Savage looks feral in his early days in ICW also on the set. Him "shoot" invading the studios to beat up Lawler are great.

I know Andy Kaufman in Memphis gets praised to high heaven but Jimmy Hart (forget him being a relatively poor manager in WWF & WCW) out acts the actor in many peoples opinion. WTF happened on that plane ride from Memphis to New York to rob him of all that talent?

ShawnRaven · 31-10-2008 11:29am

rovert wrote: »

WTF happened on that plane ride from Memphis to New York to rob him of all that talent?

A question i have asked myself for the guts of two decades.
That said, i actually enjoyed his WWE stuff from 86-92, his last year was no great shakes. His stuff with the Harts was as funny as hell.

rovert · 31-10-2008 12:07pm

ShawnRaven wrote: »

A question i have asked myself for the guts of two decades.
That said, i actually enjoyed his WWE stuff from 86-92, his last year was no great shakes.

He became a total cartoon BABYEE

ShawnRaven wrote: »

His stuff with the Harts was as funny as hell.

Flashes of brillance alright.

I heard Jimmy's book wasnt very good.

ShawnRaven · 31-10-2008 12:21pm

rovert wrote: »

He became a total cartoon BABYEE

Absolutely, however he made a damn good transition to it. Something a lot of current WWE guys are struggling to do.

Flashes of brillance alright.

I heard Jimmy's book wasnt very good.

I haven't heard anything about it myself. Slight off topic, but staying on as someone mentioned Arn's horribly kayfabed book, but i watched some of the Horsemen DVD. I loved how they over-dramatised the Arn/Sid stabbing incident.

I also love how they conveniently failed to mention that Sid stabbed arn multiple times with a SAFETY SCISSORS.

Fatal injuries my ass!

CMpunked · 31-10-2008 4:11pm

Rovert, still waiting to hear your top 5 books.....

rovert · 31-10-2008 5:59pm

Comic-Book-Guy wrote: »

Rovert, still waiting to hear your top 5 books.....

Still thinking it over I think a top 10 is needed there is fact a lot of good Wrestling books out there

CMpunked · 31-10-2008 6:15pm

rovert wrote: »

Still thinking it over I think a top 10 is needed there is fact a lot of good Wrestling books out there

cool.

Main reason i'm asking is because i dont have that many wrestling books and i am traveling a lot more lately so...

rovert · 31-10-2008 7:23pm

Wrestling books SERIOUS BUSINESS

rovert · 31-10-2008 8:58pm

Top 10 in order :eek:
Bret Hart “Hitman”
Mick Foley “Have a Nice Day”
Pain & Passion: The History of Stampede Wrestling by Heath McCoy
Pure Dynamite
Death of WCW by Bryan Alverez & R.D. Reynolds
Chris Jericho: a Lions Tale
William Regal: Walking A Golden Mile
Ric Flair To Be The Man
Wrestling at the Chase by Sam Muchnick
The Wrestling by Simon Garfield

rovert · 10-11-2008 1:59pm

Just bought this:

http://www.crowbarpress.com/crowbarpress/bruno/index.html

A few people have raved about it.

rovert · 30-11-2008 1:48pm

Matt Randazzo, who wrote "Ring of Hell," is looking for any readers of the book who have any suggestions on corrections or improvements to write him at MRV@MatthewRandazzo.comThis e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it

gerrybbadd · 17-12-2008 11:41pm

This may have been posted elsewhere, and if so - apologies. I've just been to www.brethart.com and it seems Bret's book is to be released in the UK April 2009!!!

ShawnRaven · 18-12-2008 6:29am

I can see this book being a total fail in the UK and European markets to be honest, as people have been buying it from Canada for the last year already.

Wrestling books.

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