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Seamus Quirke roadworks merge

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  • Registered Users Posts: 73 ✭✭DanielI


    Aerohead wrote: »
    Wonder how this work will interfere with the likes of Arch Motors, Aldi, The Westside Shopping Centre and the units across the road, surely they will have to give priority access to these companies so the can operate with out a loss of business.

    To be honest, I won't mind that Topaz next to Arch Motors going dry for a few days.:D

    But I think they are going to start working on the opposite side, starting at the hospital roundabout, because they will extend that second lane from the N6 approach.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    galah wrote: »
    unless you own a house in either location, move...
    and every year the same question - why can't they start this stuff during the summer holidays, when there's relatively little traffic? I sincerely hope the Seamus Quirke overhaul will somehow take rush hours into consideration...(but I know they won't...;-()
    They can't even manage to put up the warning signs correctly so that people can actually read them (the one going up towards the taylor's Hill junction was hidden behind a tree until someone copped and moved it, and the one on the bridge is sitting in the bushes, too.).

    In summer, there's the Races, the tourists, the other festivals. We'd complain because they were doing it then and why not do it later in the year..
    Remember when the resurfaced the Quicennteary bridge a few years back, there was complaints about them doing it in summer.

    Where are the warning signs located - Have they placed the warning signs for motorists on marked footpaths, thus restricting pedestrian movement?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,215 ✭✭✭galah


    nah, I'd always whinge about the fact that they do it after the holidays rather than in them...;-)

    I think the signs are not blocking pedestrian access (as far as I noticed), but they're really difficult to see (or at least to read the full text on them, cause by the time you see the signs, you're past them...)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,002 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    galah wrote: »
    nah, I'd always whinge about the fact that they do it after the holidays rather than in them...;-)
    I agree if it was going to take a couple of months as you would have more hours of daylight. It would make it easier for all road users to navigate on the roadway. But as its going to take 1 year to complete, it probably would not make any difference when they started here. By the way Galway City Council could have started this road project as far back as 2003. Any ideas why it would be in their interests too delay this project??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,970 ✭✭✭Storm 10


    I agree if it was going to take a couple of months as you would have more hours of daylight. It would make it easier for all road users to navigate on the roadway. But as its going to take 1 year to complete, it probably would not make any difference when they started here. By the way Galway City Council could have started this road project as far back as 2003. Any ideas why it would be in their interests too delay this project??

    Apparently there were the usual objectors, I also understand there were objections to the pedestrian overhead walkway opposite Dunnes Stores. I would prefer that to crossing that road


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,009 ✭✭✭jkforde


    if there's one thing that this thread proves is that the public will never be satisfied.. publicly offer them one thing (by placing it under their noses, eg public consultation) and they'll whinge and want something else, give them that and they'll demand the other. no wonder public servants and politicians have given up on us and us on them. :rolleyes:

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,848 ✭✭✭?Cee?view


    jkforde wrote: »
    if there's one thing that this thread proves is that the public will never be satisfied.. publicly offer them one thing (by placing it under their noses, eg public consultation) and they'll whinge and want something else, give them that and they'll demand the other. no wonder public servants and politicians have given up on us and us on them. :rolleyes:

    Do you honestly think that's a fair comment?

    The road that is now being built is not what was publicly "offered" (as if it's some gift :D ) and the An Bord Pleanala approved plan is not being built. At best it's arrogant; at worst, it's legality is questionable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,215 ✭✭✭galah


    well, to my personal defense, I wasnt living out West when the project came up for public consultation (not a very good excuse, but an excuse nonetheless). I never had to experience the craziness that is Westside before, having only recently moved...:o

    but I still think we could expect a bit more cop-on from the council - 24 hour bus lanes without the busses, no proper pedestrian bridges, more traffic lights, etc etc...I bet these people don't have to sit in that traffic everyday...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    Just for those of ye who are welded to your furry steering wheels..
    The Council have decided to carry out repairs to one of only four bridges spanning the Corrib, the Wolfe Tone bridge.
    Traffic will be reduced to one lane for a six hour period each day (varies - tide dependent) for two weeks starting on 6th October


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,215 ✭✭✭galah


    hooray! So Wolftone Bridge a bottleneck AND Westside as well, at the same time. This must be a cruel joke.

    Is there anything else they could do right now to cause more mayhem? Maybe digging up Lough Atalia again? Installing traffic lights at the Terryland roundabout? Pipe-laying along the Tuam Road? Pedestrianising Salmon Weir Bridge maybe?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    galah wrote: »
    hooray! So Wolftone Bridge a bottleneck AND Westside as well, at the same time. This must be a cruel joke.

    No. O Brolcháin and Gormley deliberately release Dept of the Environment funds for these frequently frivolous works in such a way that the co-ordinated chaos that ensues make scycling in Galway 'more attractive'. O Brolcháin knew about this well in advance....did he tell anyone ??

    The corpo are stupid and arrogant enough to try to spend the funds with no regard for road users and the welfare of the population. This work could easily be done at night because there is a 6 hour low tide period EVERY night is there not ???

    If someone dies in the gridlock and chaos while in an ambulance these green sociopaths will no doubt blame the dead person for not being green enough and having too great a carbon footprint :(
    Pedestrianising Salmon Weir Bridge maybe?

    Now the you mentioned it they are closing Newtownsmith ( where Born is) to install a cycle lane aren't they.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,165 ✭✭✭✭brianthebard


    Sponge Bob wrote: »
    No. O Brolcháin and Gormley deliberately release Dept of the Environment funds for these frequently frivolous works in such a way that the co-ordinated chaos that ensues make scycling in Galway 'more attractive'. O Brolcháin knew about this well in advance....did he tell anyone ??

    Was just going to post that this could be the golden age of cycling in Galway. :D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    Was just going to post that this could be the golden age of cycling in Galway. :D

    The very best of luck to those who normally cycle in Galway what with the skiddy leaves on the roads for the next 6 weeks and the general october damp and crap visibility allied with dirt spraying everywhere from all the roadworks thereby making it hard to see a cyclist :D

    Forcing inexperienced cyclists onto the road in October is sociopathic to my mind....or is that "smart" and "green" like everything else these fuks touch ??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,266 ✭✭✭Steyr


    Now if they were smart about going about this it would be done at Night time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,266 ✭✭✭Steyr


    Storm 10 wrote: »
    overhead walkway opposite Dunnes Stores. I would prefer that to crossing that road

    That traffic light system at DS Westside and Fine Wines across the road is a Joke, when the lights are RED and clear for you to cross the road the Traffic in the offshoot area ( Turning to Bus Stop from Shantalla ) still think they can drive even though the lights are red, If i had €1 for the amount of times i have seen drivers think they are in the right only to hear the buzzer going indicating its safe to walk id be a VERY rich person..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭hairyfairy00


    I live on Siobhan McKenna road and it's going to be a nightmare from Monday onwards, it's hard enough already to get out of my estate with people using the road as a rat run. Those 'Traffic Calming Islands' are a joke they should be removed while the road works are going on, someone will be seriously injured or killed trying to protest their 'right of way' or trying to cross the road.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,065 ✭✭✭✭Malice


    Heh. I'd completely forgotten about that road and the traffic calming islands that were installed. I gave up trying to drive on that road at all. The amount fuckwits that pay no attention to the yield signs and think that just because they are driving faster or driving a bigger car/van/truck they can drive straight through used to be unreal. I can't imagine things have gotten any better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,002 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    Sponge Bob wrote: »
    Now the you mentioned it they are closing Newtownsmith ( where Born is) to install a cycle lane aren't they.

    Ya that was one of the GTU's daft idea's. Crazy stuff.

    Are they actually going ahead with this??


    Check out this link:
    http://www.galwaycycling.org/bike-week-gtu-continues-to-generate-controversy-and-bad-publicity/
    Here are some quotes
    "
    At the start of Bike Week 2010, the City Council announced a “contraflow” cycle lane in Newtownsmyth, a street that already has two-way traffic and where there was therefore no logical requirement or demand for contraflow cycling.
    "
    and
    "
    There are various one-way streets in Galway where this could have been piloted with minimal changes to road layout. Instead, the street at Newtownsmyth was made one-way for a week and a “cycle track” was implemented by bolting an unsightly row of traffic cones into the street surface.
    "


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,727 ✭✭✭✭Sherifu


    ... was implemented by bolting an unsightly row of traffic cones into the street surface.
    "

    Talk about half-assed. Looks ridiculous.


  • Registered Users Posts: 73 ✭✭DanielI


    The council has announced the upgrade of the Westside park.

    Public meeting : 5pm - 9pm on Wednesday 6th October 2010 at Westside Community Centre

    The proposed development plan: http://www.galwaycity.ie/GeneralNews/300910_01.pdf

    For more info: http://www.galwaycity.ie/GeneralNews/300910_01.html


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  • Registered Users Posts: 73 ✭✭DanielI


    • From Monday 04/10/2010 for 3 weeks, the road between the Browne R/about and Lower NewCastle Rd will be one way only towards the city centre. No parking allowed. See map: http://www.galwaycity.ie/GTU/300910_01.pdf

    • From Monday 11/10/2010, reduced traffic lane widths will be implemented along the Bishop O’Donnell Road from Browne Roundabout (Corrib Park Roundabout) to the junction with Circular Road. This section of carriageway will remain open to two-way traffic for the duration of this phase of the construction works. It may however be necessary to restrict turning manoeuvres at some of the junctions onto this section of carriageway.
    Full press release at: http://www.galwaycity.ie/GTU/300910_02.pdf


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,110 ✭✭✭KevR


    From the full press release:

    • a one way system[FONT=Verdana,Verdana][FONT=Verdana,Verdana]will operate on the Seamus Quirke Road, from the Browne Roundabout ([/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Verdana,Verdana][FONT=Verdana,Verdana]Corrib Park Roundabout[/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Verdana,Verdana][FONT=Verdana,Verdana]) to the junction with the Lower Newcastle Road to facilitate drainage construction works. [/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=Verdana,Verdana][FONT=Verdana,Verdana]I presume they are going to unblock/upgrade the drains on this road. This is very welcome because a lot of water builds up on one side of the road when there is even a slight bit of rain; really annoying if you are a pedestrian because you're always worried about getting splashed with muddy water.[/FONT][/FONT]


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    KevR wrote: »
    From the full press release:
    a one way system[FONT=Verdana,Verdana][FONT=Verdana,Verdana]will operate on the Seamus Quirke Road, from the Browne Roundabout ([/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Verdana,Verdana][FONT=Verdana,Verdana]Corrib Park Roundabout[/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Verdana,Verdana][FONT=Verdana,Verdana]) to the junction with the Lower Newcastle Road to facilitate drainage construction works. [/FONT][/FONT]
    .

    They resurfaced and relined this entire section in 2009 , now they propose to dig it up again the useless cnuts :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 501 ✭✭✭Aiel


    Yes Sponge Bob,i was thinking the same thing-that did they not just dig up that road last year.What a complete joke.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,970 ✭✭✭Storm 10


    The only bit of sense I heard from the City Council was that they are looking at removing the traffic calming on the Siobhain McKenna road to allow two way unrestricted travel for the duration of the works.

    But its mad digging up a new road again what a waste of money


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    You can get in touch with them and ask why they are wasting public money
    roads @ galwaycity.ie

    The answer you'll get back is to facilitate drainage.
    I'm taking bets that within 2 months of the road being resurfaced, some utility company will dig up a part of it again and do a patchwork repair on it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭dolphin city


    yes they have really outdone themselves with this. Took 45 minutes go drive from knocknacarra to Mahers shop this morning where we had to abandon any hope of going further. Leg it out of the car and run to try to make it into town for 9 p.m.

    they couldn't do it during mid-term
    they couldnt' do it in the summer
    they just HAVE to do it when everyone needs to be on the road at the same time.

    I am losing patience and hope every day with this country - I really think it has gone down the pan with the shower of idiots running it both locally and nationally - the laughing stock of the world.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,110 ✭✭✭KevR


    The upgrade is going to take 14 months so the start date makes no real difference. Even if they started during the summer or during a mid-term it would still run through to when schools + colleges are back.

    Also, how bad was the traffic and was it actually because of the upgrade works? I walked along part of the SQR/BOD road 4 times today and traffic seemed no worse than usual (it's usually bumper to bumper and slow moving; today certainly wasn't as bad as the day a few weeks back when there was a hit and run in Terryland which brought the whole city, including the SQR/BOD Rd to a complete and total standstill)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 463 ✭✭dollybird2


    I travel this way every morning and it has been as per usual. The works arent even started yet so I don't know how they are adversely affecting the route as of yet :confused:
    Begin date is now delayed until 11/10/10 as per GCC website


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,065 ✭✭✭✭Malice


    I'm going to be heading home to Galway this weekend so I'll be on the outskirts of the city around 8pm tomorrow. Is the Westside traffic any worse at that time with these roadworks?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 463 ✭✭dollybird2


    The roadworks aren't started yet! Not until Monday so traffic will be as normal.

    Islands on Siobhan McKenna road are ridiculous and cause so much hassle and delays :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,065 ✭✭✭✭Malice


    dollybird2 wrote: »
    The roadworks aren't started yet! Not until Monday so traffic will be as normal.
    Ah okay, thanks for that. I guess the traffic will just be it's usual slow-moving self.


  • Registered Users Posts: 73 ✭✭DanielI


    Actually, the road works are delayed by one week.
    http://www.galwaycity.ie/GTU/071010_01.pdf

    Also note, that you cannot turn right on the SQR if you come from Dunnes
    http://www.galwaycity.ie/GTU/081010_01.pdf


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5 MI Security


    If you can cycle to work and do not need a car then I'm jealous or if this development means you can bus to work I'm delighted for you. If however you need a car this development (if you use thos road) will:
    1. Cost you time and money in the next year.
    2. Increase your carbon footprint.
    3. If you work in this area it will Deter any local spending on shopping, passing potential business.
    4. Frustrate you.
    5. Lead to angry dangerous high speed driving on either side once you get through this.
    6. Indirectly lead to accidents.
    7. Waste your time.
    8. Waste your hard earned road tax.
    9. Frustrate you when you say why didn't they allow general traffic use the bus lanes for traffic turning left.
    10. Make you write on boards . Ie ad we are not the fighting Irish we are the moaning paddies....
    Or... Does anyone know how to rub out bus lanes and make this into the only traffic decongesting development ever to work in our town?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,848 ✭✭✭?Cee?view


    If you can cycle to work and do not need a car then I'm jealous or if this development means you can bus to work I'm delighted for you. If however you need a car this development (if you use thos road) will:
    1. Cost you time and money in the next year.
    2. Increase your carbon footprint.
    3. If you work in this area it will Deter any local spending on shopping, passing potential business.
    4. Frustrate you.
    5. Lead to angry dangerous high speed driving on either side once you get through this.
    6. Indirectly lead to accidents.
    7. Waste your time.
    8. Waste your hard earned road tax.
    9. Frustrate you when you say why didn't they allow general traffic use the bus lanes for traffic turning left.
    10. Make you write on boards . Ie ad we are not the fighting Irish we are the moaning paddies....
    Or... Does anyone know how to rub out bus lanes and make this into the only traffic decongesting development ever to work in our town?


    I agree with the sentiment of what you're saying but, cyclists aren't happy with the proposed development and buses will be just as caught up in traffic chaos while the development is going ahead, and when it finishes it will make little difference to them as there is no bus route which uses the entire length of this road.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,002 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    8. Waste your hard earned road tax.

    We dont have road tax in Ireland. The only time you pay/taxed to use a road is on a tolled road.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5 MI Security


    Like a lot of us I don't have time or energy for this but ....
    French would riot
    Greek would riot
    Irish elderly would march
    Americans would go on tv
    What do we do?

    As far as us educated modern
    And... Smart economy people do...

    Who knows who is on charge of this?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    Ciaran Hayes
    Director of Services for Transportation and Infrastructure
    City Hall,
    College Road,
    Galway


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5 MI Security


    FAO Ciaran Hayes
    Director of Services for Transportation and Infrastructure
    City Hall,
    College Road,
    Galway

    Dear Mr Hayes,
    Can you change the development on Seamus Quirke road slightly so that general traffic as well as Buses and approved people carriers can use the proposed bus lanes?



    sincerely
    me


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,848 ✭✭✭?Cee?view


    Mr. Ciarán Hayes


    Director of Services for Transportation & Infrastructure and Parks & Recreation

    ciaran.hayes@galwaycity.ie


    Address is publicly available on the Council website.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,065 ✭✭✭✭Malice


    We dont have road tax in Ireland. The only time you pay/taxed to use a road is on a tolled road.
    No doubt MI Security meant to say "motor tax" rather than "road tax".


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5 MI Security


    Thanks Malice


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,084 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    churchview wrote: »
    .. and buses will be just as caught up in traffic chaos while the development is going ahead, and when it finishes it will make little difference to them as there is no bus route which uses the entire length of this road.

    Yet.

    And there would be little point in re-routng any buses until there is a bus-lane.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,110 ✭✭✭KevR


    Work started on the SQR between the Corrib Park roundabout and Newcastle Road. One-way traffic and no parking along this stretch. Traffic was quite heavy on the Newcastle Rd about an hour ago.

    Couldn't see any work on the SQR/BOD to the West of the Corrib Pk roundabout and traffic was no heavier than usual.


  • Registered Users Posts: 73 ✭✭DanielI


    It seems that they are going to resurface Threadneedle Rd (from Deanne R/A to the junction with Dr. Mannix Rd). I've seen the temporary signage while walking towards Salthill.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 73 ✭✭DanielI


    Galway City Council published a picture showing a would-be-final look of the upgrade: http://www.galwaycity.ie/GTU/220910_01.jpg

    I hope they were not seriously showing us what kind of buses they planned to introduce/purchase.;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,110 ✭✭✭KevR


    Doors are on the wrong side of the bus.

    Also, I doubt we will ever see that many buses on the road at the same time haha!


  • Registered Users Posts: 121 ✭✭distraction


    so work might be close to starting, saw 5 guys in day-glow jackets putting up men at work signs on the road.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,275 ✭✭✭Fionn MacCool


    KevR wrote: »
    Work started on the SQR between the Corrib Park roundabout and Newcastle Road. One-way traffic and no parking along this stretch. Traffic was quite heavy on the Newcastle Rd about an hour ago.

    Couldn't see any work on the SQR/BOD to the West of the Corrib Pk roundabout and traffic was no heavier than usual.
    Is that anything to do with the 'proper' roadworks though? It looks like they were just re/laying cables rather than any road widening..


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    so work might be close to starting, saw 5 guys in day-glow jackets putting up men at work signs on the road.

    Discrimination.. what about women at work signs?


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