The Breast Feeding Support Thread

Blueskye · 10-07-2013 12:46am

holding wrote: »

I have to say, I am that much quicker to feed and soothe him when I'm not worried about fiddling about to be more discreet. I just whip out the nipple section of my boob, hold him near it, and bobs your uncle. Much less crying in my life now!

Found this article online the other day and loved it http://www.naturalchild.org/guest/elizabeth_baldwin.html Thought of you girls here.

Just read the article. I love it. It's so true, everyone has an opinion on how I should be controlling or directing the babies feeding times, length of feeds, frequency etc not to mind the opinions on formula and co sleeping... I feed on demand as much as I can and have two very happy little 8 week old boys

I haven't mastered feeding in public yet though...

holding · 10-07-2013 12:33pm

Blueskye I didn't master it myself until 12 full weeks had passed and then something suddenly clicked for us. Plenty of time yet.

How Strange · 12-07-2013 12:03pm

My poor baba is sick

She got a respiratory infection from her big brother. I brought her to the gp this morning as I noticed she had goose bumps. I took her temp and it was high.
Hopefully the super milk will do its job and help her fight it. I'm doing tummy skin to skin for the temp. It was a tip I read when my son was a baby and it does help to bring down a slightly high temp. The calpol and antibiotics are on standby though just in case things get worse. The heat today doesn't help

MurdyWurdy · 12-07-2013 12:42pm

How Strange wrote: »

My poor baba is sick She got a respiratory infection from her big brother. I brought her to the gp this morning as I noticed she had goose bumps. I took her temp and it was high.
Hopefully the super milk will do its job and help her fight it. I'm doing tummy skin to skin for the temp. It was a tip I read when my son was a baby and it does help to bring down a slightly high temp. The calpol and antibiotics are on standby though just in case things get worse. The heat today doesn't help

The poor thing! Horrible having a temp in this weather. I hope it clears up soon. Is she still feeding well?

Does anyone use the laid back position for feeding? The PHN recommended it for my LOs reflux. I've looked up some youtube videos but they are all with older babies. Anyone use it with a newborn?

dublinlady · 12-07-2013 1:28pm

MurdyWurdy wrote: »

The poor thing! Horrible having a temp in this weather. I hope it clears up soon. Is she still feeding well?

Does anyone use the laid back position for feeding? The PHN recommended it for my LOs reflux. I've looked up some youtube videos but they are all with older babies. Anyone use it with a newborn?

I did murdy but found it made my boobs sore so don't think I was doing it right!!
Now at night we are in a slouchy half way position that I can pretty much sleep in!

How Strange · 12-07-2013 1:37pm

Honestly breastfeeding is such a huge reassurance when they're sick as you know they won't dehydrate and you're making thr antibodies to help them get better. It's when they're such that I'm especially grateful to be breastfeeding.

She's feeding fine and lots of wet nappies.

Do you mean where you put them on your chest and let them latch on? I did that with A in the first week as it was the best of a bad lot regarding latching. Now I prefer the cradle hold. For reflux I think anything that keeps them in an upright position helps a lot. It's tough going for all of you.

Have you seen this from kellymom
http://kellymom.com/health/baby-health/

MurdyWurdy · 12-07-2013 2:00pm

How Strange wrote: »

Honestly breastfeeding is such a huge reassurance when they're sick as you know they won't dehydrate and you're making thr antibodies to help them get better. It's when they're such that I'm especially grateful to be breastfeeding.

She's feeding fine and lots of wet nappies.

Do you mean where you put them on your chest and let them latch on? I did that with A in the first week as it was the best of a bad lot regarding latching. Now I prefer the cradle hold. For reflux I think anything that keeps them in an upright position helps a lot. It's tough going for all of you.

Have you seen this from kellymom
http://kellymom.com/health/baby-health/

Yeah, you kind of lie down but propped you by 30 - 40 degrees and then baby lies vertically on your tummy and latches on. My baby's latch is getting quite good, sometimes if he falls off he can move his head and get himself back on which is amazing! So maybe the laid back feeding will work. Will check out the link!

kvicka · 12-07-2013 2:42pm

Oral Slang...thx for your post...great to hear it didnt impact your supply or your bf relation. I contacted my employer and they actually hae a room for me and allow me to pump 2x day...so I guess I cannot complain. I am honestly considering to look for a part time job though...I just feel 40h week is too long and I would feel I am missing out on all her life ...boooooooooooo

How Strange · 12-07-2013 2:55pm

That's great kvicka. It's good to see some employers are so progressive.

Nead21 · 12-07-2013 3:22pm

Hope your little baba gets better soon How Strange. Interesting about the skin to skin for temps...never heard that before but will defo try it should the need occur.

Murdy i used it when my little man was a newborn...i think it's how i learned to bf lying down which really saved my sanity at nighttime or when i was super exhausted.

How Strange · 12-07-2013 3:35pm

Oh bfing lying down is the only reason we kept it up for a year last time around. Once they get a bit older they feed away and you fall back asleep. I couldn't have managed the night feeds without it.

Nead21 · 12-07-2013 3:37pm

Yeah when he wakes at about half 5 for a feed i pull him in beside me and sometimes im asleep before he is!

taxus_baccata · 12-07-2013 4:57pm

MurdyWurdy wrote: »

The poor thing! Horrible having a temp in this weather. I hope it clears up soon. Is she still feeding well?

Does anyone use the laid back position for feeding? The PHN recommended it for my LOs reflux. I've looked up some youtube videos but they are all with older babies. Anyone use it with a newborn?

Hi murdy I found that I needed lots of pillows and a little help with tucking them in under my elbows for support esp when ds was small. I got the hang of it then. I just had a look at this video http://youtu.be/DiT6wPC6iIc and it seems to explain stuff well. Although the midwives in Limerick showed me a slightly different version of laid back breastfeeding where you support baby's head with the crook of you elbow,sort of like cradle hold lying down except your body is supporting baby's body, hope that makes sense!

LegacyUser · 15-07-2013 1:11pm

Hi just wondering can anyone tell me their experiences of being pregnant and breastfeeding. Did baby self wean? Did your milk dry up? My babies 1 now but nurses a lot at night. I don't know how far along I am either yet. I don't particularly want to tandem feed so do want her to wean. Happy to keep going for now if that's possible though

Piper101 · 15-07-2013 6:09pm

Unregistered wrote: »

Hi just wondering can anyone tell me their experiences of being pregnant and breastfeeding. Did baby self wean? Did your milk dry up? My babies 1 now but nurses a lot at night. I don't know how far along I am either yet. I don't particularly want to tandem feed so do want her to wean. Happy to keep going for now if that's possible though

Hi! Firstly congratulations! Can you PM me re this issue please? A lot of babies self wean as the milk generally dries up but some babies are happy to dry suckle or with colostrum as the body prioritises the new baby and produces this instead of milk in the later stages of bfing and early days after birth. Loads of people successfully nurse babies and older babies.

Oral Slang · 16-07-2013 8:41am

Unregistered wrote: »

Hi just wondering can anyone tell me their experiences of being pregnant and breastfeeding. Did baby self wean? Did your milk dry up? My babies 1 now but nurses a lot at night. I don't know how far along I am either yet. I don't particularly want to tandem feed so do want her to wean. Happy to keep going for now if that's possible though

I have a 21 month old, am 22 weeks pregnant and still feeding. To be honest I think my milk has dried up as I can't even squeeze out a drop, but my daughter still seems happy. I have her down to a feed going to bed & 1 when she gets up in the morning (and some days avoid that one too). I've 4 months until the baby comes along, so hoping that I manage to wean her before then. I am slightly concerned that my colostrum is going to come in shortly & then she'll be harder to wean as she's getting something, but I'm not going to stress her out, slow & steady is the way to go I think. Also not going to attempt getting her off completely during this hot weather, it's definitely a major comfort when she can't settle at night.

missis aggie · 16-07-2013 8:59am

First bottom tooth is cutting !!

I can feel her latch is different. Will she readjust or should I be worried? Sorry I'm panicking but I had a huge crack on my nipple that only healed last month and I'm just worried she will do a damage again

cyning · 16-07-2013 4:10pm

missis aggie wrote: »

First bottom tooth is cutting !! I can feel her latch is different. Will she readjust or should I be worried? Sorry I'm panicking but I had a huge crack on my nipple that only healed last month and I'm just worried she will do a damage again

It should readjust. C is a terrible biter when teething so I break her latch everytime she bit or bites and it focuses her more on feeding then messing around biting. I also say no. It can be tough going though

liliq · 16-07-2013 11:20pm

Latch will definitely adjust

I found feeding was a bit stingy just before and after a tooth broke through. There's more acidy enzymes in their saliva that break down the gums to help the teeth through... That's definitely gonna sting!
We're getting the last couple of teeth here in one go at the moment, back teeth really changed my sons latch but he seems to be figuring it out thankfully!

lazygal · 17-07-2013 8:57am

I BF while pregnant, LO has just totally self weaned at about 14 months. We combination fed but I was doing three feeds a day when I got pregnant, after a month or two I introduced a daytime bottle and by 11 months she was down to a morning feed or when she looked for it, which wasn't often. She has lost all interest in it now, which is a relief as I'm totally exhausted. I've offered it a few times just to make sure but she's refused the breast every time.

I had no interest in tandem feeding as I didn't particularly love breastfeeding so I'm delighted she's self weaned, makes life easier. I'm hoping the fact I've kept it up will help with supply second time around.

holding · 17-07-2013 2:21pm

Hi girls a question. My little guy is 3.5 mths now. He has slept from 12 midnight to 9am without a feed since he was 3 weeks old. I feed him at 9pm and at 11pm and then he goes down for the night. He feeds for up to an hour at each time. However he's been getting sleepier and nodding off now after the 9pm feed (previously he would be bright eyed til 11) and I'm having to wake him up for the 11pm feed. My question is, would it be okay to drop this feed? Is it 'safe' for him to sleep from 10pm to 9am without a feed in between? Of course I may end up trying this and he might start waking at 7am instead, but if he doesn't, I'm wondering is it okay for him to sleep that long without feeding. Thanks for any advice.

How Strange · 17-07-2013 3:01pm

Yes, yes, yes!!! Enjoy it and thank your lucky stars!! I'm not jealous at all!

Blueskye · 17-07-2013 3:12pm

holding wrote: »

Hi girls a question. My little guy is 3.5 mths now. He has slept from 12 midnight to 9am without a feed since he was 3 weeks old. I feed him at 9pm and at 11pm and then he goes down for the night. He feeds for up to an hour at each time. However he's been getting sleepier and nodding off now after the 9pm feed (previously he would be bright eyed til 11) and I'm having to wake him up for the 11pm feed. My question is, would it be okay to drop this feed? Is it 'safe' for him to sleep from 10pm to 9am without a feed in between? Of course I may end up trying this and he might start waking at 7am instead, but if he doesn't, I'm wondering is it okay for him to sleep that long without feeding. Thanks for any advice.

Wow I am so jealous. I would imagine he'd wake if hungry. Enjoy!

dublinlady · 17-07-2013 4:21pm

holding wrote: »

Hi girls a question. My little guy is 3.5 mths now. He has slept from 12 midnight to 9am without a feed since he was 3 weeks old. I feed him at 9pm and at 11pm and then he goes down for the night. He feeds for up to an hour at each time. However he's been getting sleepier and nodding off now after the 9pm feed (previously he would be bright eyed til 11) and I'm having to wake him up for the 11pm feed. My question is, would it be okay to drop this feed? Is it 'safe' for him to sleep from 10pm to 9am without a feed in between? Of course I may end up trying this and he might start waking at 7am instead, but if he doesn't, I'm wondering is it okay for him to sleep that long without feeding. Thanks for any advice.

Wow!!!
Def go with it!! Happy days!

MurdyWurdy · 17-07-2013 4:22pm

holding wrote: »

Hi girls a question. My little guy is 3.5 mths now. He has slept from 12 midnight to 9am without a feed since he was 3 weeks old. I feed him at 9pm and at 11pm and then he goes down for the night. He feeds for up to an hour at each time. However he's been getting sleepier and nodding off now after the 9pm feed (previously he would be bright eyed til 11) and I'm having to wake him up for the 11pm feed. My question is, would it be okay to drop this feed? Is it 'safe' for him to sleep from 10pm to 9am without a feed in between? Of course I may end up trying this and he might start waking at 7am instead, but if he doesn't, I'm wondering is it okay for him to sleep that long without feeding. Thanks for any advice.

I am also ridiculously jealous - 12am - 9am sounds like heaven to me! I just can't imagine ever getting that much sleep ever again

I reckon give it a try and see if it means he wakes at 7am, if he does you can rethink it.

iguana · 17-07-2013 6:05pm

It's completely safe in terms of his health and safety but I would suggest being careful as he is reaching the most common age for sleep regression. My son went from sleeping from 12 to 9 at that age, to waking up every 45min shortly after. In my case I think it was exacerbated by family stress but apparently it's very common. My advice is to ensure he consistently gets the daytime naps he needs as you make the change at night, as ime, overtiredness ruins night time sleep patterns.

How Strange · 17-07-2013 7:39pm

We had the four and five month sleep regression with O

Hopefully we don't have it this time around or at least not a full two months of it.

holding · 18-07-2013 9:02am

Thanks everyone, will let you know how we get on. We're off on holidays now for a week abroad, so not sure whether to leave it til we come back, as his routine will probably be a bit upset as it is.

OMG that regression thing sounds terrible! I hadn't heard of it before. Really hope that doesn't happen to baba. Every 45 minutes iguana, I can't imagine how you coped.

How Strange · 18-07-2013 9:10am

holding look up the wonder weeks phone app or website. It was a revelation for me and explained why my 4 month old went from being a great sleeper to being awake every night from midnight. Not all babies are affected so hopefully you'll be lucky

wolfpawnat · 18-07-2013 9:12am

Just got a sling to help me feed and be able to play with A at the same time. I really feel like I have a more positive and prepared approach to bf-ing this time. I just hope it goes well.

lazygal · 18-07-2013 9:27am

Not every baby has regression. I was braced for disruption around all the wonder weeks others talked about, but our LO never really changed her patterns. Same with teething, I got so many horror stories but we never had a moments bother with her.

Wolfpawnat, I tried a sling last time but it wasn't for me. I'm hoping that BF will be easier second time around, with fewer negative surprises!

iguana · 18-07-2013 9:51am

Absolutely lots of babies don't get the regression, I know plenty of babies who just carried on as they were. In my case we moved house and the next day my husband was in a pretty bad car crash at the same time that my son's sleeping habits started to change so I'm sure his sleep regression was worsened by the move, his daddy disappearing and, as much as I tried to hide it from him, my stress.

icescreamqueen · 18-07-2013 3:24pm

wolfpawnat wrote: »

Just got a sling to help me feed and be able to play with A at the same time. I really feel like I have a more positive and prepared approach to bf-ing this time. I just hope it goes well.

Can I ask you what sling you got? I'm on the lookout for a sling for BF and for using for going out on walks. I'm thinking of the Moby sling but not sure.

MurdyWurdy · 18-07-2013 4:04pm

icescreamqueen wrote: »

Can I ask you what sling you got? I'm on the lookout for a sling for BF and for using for going out on walks. I'm thinking of the Moby sling but not sure.

I have a moby wrap and all attempts to breastfeed in it have so far been unsuccesful! I'm not sure what the other moby sling is like though

How Strange · 18-07-2013 4:09pm

I have a jpmbb and although I've never tried I'd say you could feed in it. I've also got an ergo and one of its claims is that you can feed in it but I've never met anyone who has actually been successful in their attempts.

Nead21 · 18-07-2013 4:46pm

I havent been able to feed in my jpmbb either. I bought a manduca and a girl from my bf group was showing me how to feed in it. I havent tried it yet but she made it look very simple

dublinlady · 18-07-2013 5:21pm

I can't figure out how to feed with the ergo either! I'm thinking maybe when she's got more head support?!
I'm so happy feeding is going so well for me this time - seems alot easier than with my first! I really can't imagining stopping at the mo, ill be delighted with myself if I get to 6 months, well anything beyond the 13 weeks I did last time! I have a full day at work coming up next week and don't know how the expressing will go, but its only one day - my hub gonna bring her in so I can feed her there during my break so that'll help!

Nead21 · 18-07-2013 6:04pm

Well done dublinlady :-) I was at a bf meeting this morning and the leader said that from 3months on you enter the "honeymoon" phase of bf. I reached my second target of 3months yesterday so im hoping the next 3months will be easier and get me to the 6month mark.

Ive been pumping all week to have enough for tomorrow as we re going to a wedding. Its the longest ive left him and im going to have to bring the pump with me.

CeNedra · 18-07-2013 6:19pm

Hello,

I'm BF number 3 and she's 7 months old now. Made it to 6 months on my other two but am going to keep going a while longer this time.

All was going well, brilliantly in fact until the teeth arrived a month ago. I started getting a few nips here and there, but this week it is all gone to pot altogether. In the hot weather I've had been offering her some milk a bit more regularly but unless she is ravenous she will look at me, give me a smile and then try to take a chunk out of me. BF has become a game of I'll bite you and see if I get a reaction. Each time I get a bite I put her down and won't offer her milk a second time I can tell you. I've had to cut back offering her milk to really evenings and at night/early mornings, my bf routine is gone out the window. I'm a bit concerned that she is not getting enough milk. She loves her solid food and is eating very well and a very varied diet already. She is taking very very small amounts of water and I offer her the sippy cup regularly throughout the day, water only in that though. She has never taken a bottle for me and I was going to give them a skip entirely this time round.

I'm hoping some of you here have experience of successfully getting past the biting phase. Any advice/idea's welcome.

I should add, she is the most chilled out baby ever and this is far from a big deal, but I was enjoying the B feeding and would like to get back to feeding throughout the day if possible.

icescreamqueen · 18-07-2013 6:38pm

dublinlady wrote: »

I can't figure out how to feed with the ergo either! I'm thinking maybe when she's got more head support?!
I'm so happy feeding is going so well for me this time - seems alot easier than with my first! I really can't imagining stopping at the mo, ill be delighted with myself if I get to 6 months, well anything beyond the 13 weeks I did last time! I have a full day at work coming up next week and don't know how the expressing will go, but its only one day - my hub gonna bring her in so I can feed her there during my break so that'll help!

Is there any reason in particular the BF is going better now? I'm a 1st time Mum to be and I'm probably naive and think it's going to be easy. Any tips would be great.

wolfpawnat · 18-07-2013 6:52pm

icescreamqueen wrote: »

Can I ask you what sling you got? I'm on the lookout for a sling for BF and for using for going out on walks. I'm thinking of the Moby sling but not sure.

It's called Mamma's Milk. It was belonging to my friend and she gave it to me as her little guy is nearing 10 months now. She found it great for bf-ing while doing other little tasks, so hopefully I will have as much luck.

dublinlady · 18-07-2013 7:45pm

icescreamqueen wrote: »

Is there any reason in particular the BF is going better now? I'm a 1st time Mum to be and I'm probably naive and think it's going to be easy. Any tips would be great.

I think for me the biggest change between first & second babies has been my attitude!!! Babies change your life - forever - and while I knew that I don't think I really understood that!! I think with my first I thought by quitting breastfeeding my life would go back to normal somewhat - whereas this time I understand that "normal" has changed and by quitting all I'm gaining is a whole lot of sterilizing!!! I thought id get my freedom back I think - but either way you still need to feed the baby every few hours and bottles are more work! Now I appreciate that the changes in my life are brilliant ones - that I don't want to go back to before baby A & S, they are my life now!
I'm glad to hear it gets even better after the 3 month mark tho - I think I've been lucky this time tho as S didn't have colic whereas A did.
Other things that made it easier this time was that I knew the first 2 weeks would be painful & difficult - and they were - but I knew it would pass. Also I really worked hard on making 100% sure her latch was correct before leaving the hospital and also I ended up getting a lactation consultant out privately to the house when we hit trouble on day 9.

Main thing I think tho is that I'm embracing it rather than pressurising myself! I'm laid back & so is my baby thankfully!! The opposite to what I was like with A - and she is now a very highly strung 17 month old!!!!

liliq · 18-07-2013 11:04pm

I managed to feed in the ergo! I can't remember how tbh but I did it! Lol. I think at one stage he was too small, then for a while he was a good height for feeding. By the time we were finishing up with the ergo there was no way I could have fed him.
I've fed him recently while he's been in the ring sling. It takes a bit if adjusting but it's doable.

Re the teeth and biting thing... It seems to be a common phase around the 7/8 month mark. I've heard suggestion both if Unlatching, a firm no, and waiting a minute before allowing them to latch on again. If they bite again repeat but wait a little longer.
Another suggestion is to kind of push their head into your boob, if they resist being unlatched. Their nose being pressed against your boob makes them unlatch.

My sons two front teeth are decaying (not due to bfing obviously!) but it's making it so uncomfortable to feed him when his teeth are so jagged

MurdyWurdy · 19-07-2013 7:23am

I'm going to try feed again in the sling when the weather is cooler. I bought the damn thing to keep him upright while I potter around the house and get things done so his reflux isn't too bad ( currently we sit him upright on us for 30 mins after a feed to prevent the puking/pain).

It's just too hot for him to be covered by all the material in the wrap so all I'm doing at the moment is feeding him and then have him sitting on me. Then because he's thirsty in no time at all I have to feed him again. I feel like l i'm trapped sitting down. Would love it to get a bit cooler! My husband says not to worry and he'll do all the housework but the point us I want to do some stuff and not just sit all day. Oh well, at least it can only get better!

How Strange · 19-07-2013 8:28am

Liliq my little one is over 14lbs and us quote long and I'm finding she's very uncomfortable with her legs in the frog position in the ergo. I can't remember what we did with O but he was smaller at this age. Can I let her legs hang out either side of the ergo yet? I think she'd be far more comfortable like that.

DL +1000 to everything you said. I'm much more relaxed this time around and I'm enjoying my time off much more as a result. I didn't stop bfing until 1 year last time but I know I felt trapped by it for the first 3 months and then I realized how easy it had gotten. This time I found it got easier after the first few weeks as my expectations were different.

Murdywurdy, it's def not sling weather. I only use mine in supermarkets or other cool places at the moment.

I find it's so hot I don't want to be taking her in and out of the car too much so we're really just sitting in the garden. I did a few things on Wednesday so she was constantly in and out of the car for hours and we paid the price with a very very cranky baby (hysterical!) that night.

iguana · 19-07-2013 9:59am

I found a stretchy wrap easiest for feeding a newborn in. The Ergo was easiest to feed in at around the 4 month mark (though S is a big baby so was more like a 6/7 month old at that point) and I find the ring sling easiest now as it's the most adjustable. I'm not sure I could still feed him in the Ergo at the size he is now though, I mostly wear him on my back when he's in it and obviously it's not possible to feed him that way.

HS you can get rid of the infant insert when the baby has good head control. I hated the infant insert and found the Ergo very uncomfortable with it. I stopped using it at about 11 weeks and it was the best decision.

How Strange · 19-07-2013 11:41am

Thanks iguana. She has very good head control and ages 12 weeks this weekend so I might stop using it now. You're right; it's very awkward with the infant insert.

Blueskye · 19-07-2013 6:51pm

Bit OT but how does the newborn insert work on the ergo? My boys are 9 weeks, about 10lbs so need to use it til they are 12lbs. They don't seem to fit comfortably in it. They sit on the padded bit with legs out, just looks strange. Not sure if I'm missing something.

dublinlady · 19-07-2013 7:05pm

Blueskye wrote: »

Bit OT but how does the newborn insert work on the ergo? My boys are 9 weeks, about 10lbs so need to use it til they are 12lbs. They don't seem to fit comfortably in it. They sit on the padded bit with legs out, just looks strange. Not sure if I'm missing something.

My girl 11lbs 4, she sits in it with legs bent up frog like kinda wrapped around me. I just took out the cushion cos she's so long her head was too far up fir the support!! Not sure if meant to do that...! Is it just when they have head support u ditch the insert? She wouldn't be able for it without it yet!

Edit : just found this;
http://support.ergobaby.com/entries/21226867-Why-do-I-need-the-Infant-Insert-and-how-long-do-I-need-to-use-it-

I'm still confused cos my gorgeous fattie will be 12lbs before she has enough head support at this rate!!

liliq · 20-07-2013 12:35am

How Strange wrote: »

Liliq my little one is over 14lbs and us quote long and I'm finding she's very uncomfortable with her legs in the frog position in the ergo. I can't remember what we did with O but he was smaller at this age. Can I let her legs hang out either side of the ergo yet? I think she'd be far more comfortable like that

There is a funny inbetween stage where they're too big for the insert but not quite big enough for legs out. When she's so tall though, you could probably put her in it legs out and cinch it a little so she's not overspread?

dublinlady wrote: »

I'm still confused cos my gorgeous fattie will be 12lbs before she has enough head support at this rate!!

It's a weird one! My little man was nearly 12lb at birth and there was no way he had head support then!

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