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Jurassic World

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,541 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Chris Pratt in talks to join now Source


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,467 ✭✭✭McSasquatch


    Really like Chris Pratt, but it's a series where the casting has never mattered to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,268 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    BlitzKrieg wrote: »
    Prior to the rise of CGI there was always a sense of wonder of *How did they do that?* to a lot of big films and there was quite a market for pieces on how things were made (and still is somewhat) but CGI has created a sort of lazy response mentality with viewers which is when something amazing happens your brain goes *That was done on computers* and because you make that connection instantly you draw your eyes towards the tell tale signs of cgi.
    I miss these types of docs too... can even remember movies being based around them: F/X Murder by Illusion etc.


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,398 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Sleepy wrote: »
    I miss these types of docs too... can even remember movies being based around them: F/X Murder by Illusion etc.

    Movie Magic, saturday afternoon's on rte 2. I remember seeing the Alien Queen fight Ripley in the loader!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,268 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    I think one of my favourite practical special effects was a very simple one: the perfectly concentric ripples of water in the glass of water in the jeep just before the T-Rex attack in the first Jurassic Park movie. Spielberg apparently drove Winston's team nuts with the request and they tried endless different means of getting it right until one of them finally managed it by attaching a guitar string to the bottom of the glass and plucking it at the right moments!


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,398 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Sleepy wrote: »
    I think one of my favourite practical special effects was a very simple one: the perfectly concentric ripples of water in the glass of water in the jeep just before the T-Rex attack in the first Jurassic Park movie. Spielberg apparently drove Winston's team nuts with the request and they tried endless different means of getting it right until one of them finally managed it by attaching a guitar string to the bottom of the glass and plucking it at the right moments!

    The part where the t-rex puts it's head through the ceiling of the jeep and there's only the piece of glass separating him from the kids, apparently the screams there are genuine as his head wasn't supposed to break the glass. I'm far from anti-CG but there's no denying that you'll never get that kind of spontaneity with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    The part where the t-rex puts it's head through the ceiling of the jeep and there's only the piece of glass separating him from the kids, apparently the screams there are genuine as his head wasn't supposed to break the glass. I'm far from anti-CG but there's no denying that you'll never get that kind of spontaneity with it.
    I still think up close, animatronics are the way to go. You can enhance them with CGI by adding in things like pulsating skin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    The part where the t-rex puts it's head through the ceiling of the jeep and there's only the piece of glass separating him from the kids, apparently the screams there are genuine as his head wasn't supposed to break the glass. I'm far from anti-CG but there's no denying that you'll never get that kind of spontaneity with it.

    Nothing more convincing than genuinely frightened children :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,999 ✭✭✭Nerdkiller1991


    Good news for celluloid lovers, as Jurassic World is set to be shot on film.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,815 ✭✭✭SimonTemplar


    Sleepy wrote: »
    I think one of my favourite practical special effects was a very simple one: the perfectly concentric ripples of water in the glass of water in the jeep just before the T-Rex attack in the first Jurassic Park movie. Spielberg apparently drove Winston's team nuts with the request and they tried endless different means of getting it right until one of them finally managed it by attaching a guitar string to the bottom of the glass and plucking it at the right moments!

    That's why I love practical effects. I know there is a great deal of intelligence behind the software that creates CGI and there is a skill involved in rendering it realistically, but practical effects like those water ripples exhibit a wondering sense of ingenuity.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,541 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    http://www.rte.ie/ten/news/2014/0407/607256-irish-actress-katie-mcgrath-for-jurassic-world/


    Irish actress Katie McGrath is set to star in the upcoming Jurassic Park re-boot, Jurassic World.
    The Merlin and Dracula star is the latest addition to the cast that already comprises of Chris Pratt, Bryce Dallas Howard, Nick Robinson and Judy Greer.
    Jurassic World is slated for release in June 2015 and will be directed by Colin Trevorrow, with Steven Spielberg expected to executive produce.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    IIRC, I'm pretty sure it's not a reboot, just set years after the events of the first three films instead.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,467 ✭✭✭McSasquatch


    Judy Greer should be in more movies.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    That's why I love practical effects. I know there is a great deal of intelligence behind the software that creates CGI and there is a skill involved in rendering it realistically, but practical effects like those water ripples exhibit a wondering sense of ingenuity.

    Yeah I know what you mean and I miss that. If you watch the making of type programs for various 90s blockbusters, the ingenuity and creativity involved to get the effects they want is unreal. I was watching one bout, I think Twister, a while back, and they were talking about a scene where a house gets destroyed, and the engineer was saying that showing a house being destroyed by a twister in itself was challenging, but they also needed to be able to reset the set back to the way it was, and time is money so they need to be able to reset it in about 15 minutes max. The feat of engineering is unreal. Then CGI came along and ruined everything.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,656 ✭✭✭norrie rugger


    No then CGI came along and should have been used to enhance practical effects, not replace them


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 537 ✭✭✭Yeti Beast


    A JP fan site apparently received pics of a prop from the new movie - basically, it's like a tourist display map of the "Jurassic World" theme park. It's actually very similar to how myself and a friend (another big JP fan) imagined the park for our fantasized about Trespasser sequel. We'd sue except, yanno, we're nobody and have no proof. :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭Adamantium


    syklops wrote: »
    Yeah I know what you mean and I miss that. If you watch the making of type programs for various 90s blockbusters, the ingenuity and creativity involved to get the effects they want is unreal. I was watching one bout, I think Twister, a while back, and they were talking about a scene where a house gets destroyed, and the engineer was saying that showing a house being destroyed by a twister in itself was challenging, but they also needed to be able to reset the set back to the way it was, and time is money so they need to be able to reset it in about 15 minutes max. The feat of engineering is unreal. Then CGI came along and ruined everything.

    I heard about this one and I was like "WHAT?!!"; model making and practical effects had been polished to their zenieth by the late 90's, when it stopped becoming the large enterprise it was. It was perfected art form. I often look at Star Trek First Contact and Titanic as a good example of this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Adamantium wrote: »
    I heard about this one and I was like "WHAT?!!"; model making and practical effects had been polished to their zenieth by the late 90's, when it stopped becoming the large enterprise it was. It was perfected art form. I often look at Star Trek First Contact and Titanic as a good example of this.

    I think the limits of what they could do at the time bred creativity. I'll cite T2 as a perfect template of real and digital effects forever. The morphing T1000 stuff was mind blowing at the time as audiences had never really seen anything like it in that environment. But then you had scenes like the storm drain chase and the fantastic police chopper/swat van sequence. Which looks real because it is real.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,589 ✭✭✭brevity


    Apparently some details were leaked recently, the directory has now confirmed some of these leaks. Spoilers ahead.

    http://www.theverge.com/2014/5/29/5760370/jurassic-world-director-trevorrow-confirms-leaked-story-details


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭Adamantium


    http://www.slashfilm.com/jurassic-world-plot-details-colin-treverrow/
    The other was that our relationship with technology has become so woven into our daily lives, we’ve become numb to the scientific miracles around us. We take so much for granted.

    Those two ideas felt like they could work together. What if, despite previous disasters, they built a new biological preserve where you could see dinosaurs walk the earth…and what if people were already kind of over it? We imagined a teenager texting his girlfriend with his back to a T-Rex behind protective glass. For us, that image captured the way much of the audience feels about the movies themselves. “We’ve seen CG dinosaurs. What else you got?” Next year, you’ll see our answer.

    SOLD.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


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    Bloody hell Chris Pratt is doing well for himself this year


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    krudler wrote: »
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    Bloody hell Chris Pratt is doing well for himself this year

    He's on a similar trajectory to that Taylor Kitsch was on a few years back, hopefully it works out better for him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    He's on a similar trajectory to that Taylor Kitsch was on a few years back, hopefully it works out better for him.

    Seems Kitsch got a bad run of films although Lone Survivor was excellent I thought. I think he's better in an ensemble than a leading man though. I do like Pratt, he's got natural charisma and comedy chops, and if Guardians of the Galaxy turns out to be a hit it'll just open the door even further for him.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,160 ✭✭✭tok9


    Comic Con poster is pretty cool.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,605 ✭✭✭irish_stevo815


    Going by that it looks like they're building on the original island and the Raptors are running wild...... Bring on the carnage


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Going by that it looks like they're building on the original island and the Raptors are running wild...... Bring on the carnage

    Bout time they went back to the original island.


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,398 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    No feathers on the raptor, tsk tsk.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,224 ✭✭✭marklazarcovic


    bring on the carnage is right,cannot wait


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭iDave


    I thought nothing survived on the original island?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 477 ✭✭McSasquatch II


    iDave wrote: »
    I thought nothing survived on the original island?

    Nedry's shaving foam! :pac:

    Nah, I think this is a new resort/theme park called Jurassic World, which is either built on the old site A/B or a new location. In other words, they started again.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 184 ✭✭Spoonman75


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    No feathers on the raptor, tsk tsk.

    I noticed that immediately. While not scientifically accurate I prefer them this way. I prefer my dinos without feathers. :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭iDave


    Oak76 wrote: »
    Nedry's shaving foam! :pac:

    Nah, I think this is a new resort/theme park called Jurassic World, which is either built on the old site A/B or a new location. In other words, they started again.

    I was referring to the Lysine Contingency but if they're starting again fair enough.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,656 ✭✭✭norrie rugger


    They were able to breed in the wild and the suggestion was that they were able to get in naturally.

    They started with no feathers so makes sense that they continue, most people would laugh and not believe it anyway. The image of dinos with feathers has not really made it into public thought yet


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    The image of dinos with feathers has not really made it into public thought yet
    I don't think they need to pander to the ignorance of the crowd. The first film kick started a dinosaur craze, if they just want to piggyback on the success of that film rather than set their own path then I suppose they should go with the fantasy dinosaurs and ignore reality.


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,398 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    ScumLord wrote: »
    I don't think they need to pander to the ignorance of the crowd. The first film kick started a dinosaur craze, if they just want to piggyback on the success of that film rather than set their own path then I suppose they should go with the fantasy dinosaurs and ignore reality.

    Like someone said in Palaeontology, they can always go for the angle that them having no feathers was deliberate on the part of the scientists in order to make them "sexier" to the public.

    The raptors in the original film are 3 or 4 times too big to be Velociraptors anyway so even by the standards of the early 90's it was scientifically inaccurate to begin with. I was always puzzled why they didn't just go with Utahraptor or Dienonychus.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Music Moderators, Regional Midlands Moderators Posts: 24,126 Mod ✭✭✭✭Angron


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    Like someone said in Palaeontology, they can always go for the angle that them having no feathers was deliberate on the part of the scientists in order to make them "sexier" to the public.

    The raptors in the original film are 3 or 4 times too big to be Velociraptors anyway so even by the standards of the early 90's it was scientifically inaccurate to begin with. I was always puzzled why they didn't just go with Utahraptor or Dienonychus.
    Yeah, that raptor thing always bugged me, especially since in dialogue at the start they say they are like large turkeys. The 6 foot or so they are shown at is a bit more than "large" for a turkey.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,522 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    c'mon guys, they were clearly missing the bit of DNA containing the feathers and that's where the frog goo was spliced in to give the leathery / amphibian type hide ;)

    perfectly valid sciency type explanation


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,589 ✭✭✭brevity


    I thought Dienonychus was a 'raptor?


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,398 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    brevity wrote: »
    I thought Dienonychus was a 'raptor?

    It is! I think they did model the 'raptors in the film on Dienonychus but didn't think the name was catchy enough so went with Velociraptor instead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,589 ✭✭✭brevity


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,686 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,656 ✭✭✭norrie rugger




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    I think the dinosaurs would look so much better with feathers. It would probably help with the realism to, 3D modelers have gotten really good at modeling things like hair and feathers and if they look more like animals we are familiar with I think it'll be easier to buy into the effects.

    Dinosaur feathers would have been completely for show, so they'll allow the filmmakers to inject more character into the animals, they won't just roar but fan out plumage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,772 ✭✭✭cython


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    ScumLord wrote: »
    I think the dinosaurs would look so much better with feathers.

    I think they would look so much better with Lazers !!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,656 ✭✭✭norrie rugger


    Lasers!!!

    Sorry just the American way of spelling makes no frikken sense


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 477 ✭✭McSasquatch II


    I missed where they announced Vince D'Onofrio would be in this. Just adds to my excitement to be honest. Here's a quote from himself in a recent interview bigging up the film.
    “Some of the scenes in that, just the scenes that I shot — I’m not in nearly as much as Chris [Pratt] is or Bryce [Dallas Howard], they’re the leads in the movie — but just if I’m gonna talk about the stuff that I did, the scenes are so cool. There’s real dialogue scenes in the movie and there’s real, like, acting scenes in the movie, but at the same time the environment is full of dinosaurs. I mean, it’s just amazing.”

    He's also promising lots of "iconic scenes" and when asked about the various fan theories doing the rounds he said, “None of them really have it. You have no idea what’s in store”. Doesn't mean it'll actually be any good of course, but I'm very happy it's not just a retread of the previous movies.

    Full story on Screen Rant, which contains some potentially spoiler-esque speculation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭JohnDaniels


    First trailer is coming soon.

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    Twenty-two years after the events of Jurassic Park, Isla Nublar now features a fully functioning dinosaur theme park, Jurassic World, as originally envisioned by John Hammond. This new park is owned by the Masrani Corporation. Owen (Chris Pratt), a member of Jurassic World's on-site staff, conducts behavioral research on the Velociraptors. After many years, Jurassic World's attendance rates begin to decline and a new attraction, created to re-spark visitor interest, gravely backfires.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,297 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    What I take from that.... they have brought the Entity to Jurassic World.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,589 ✭✭✭brevity


    Ooooo this better be good! I'm getting a bit excited about the prospect of a new Jurassic Park movie!


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