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Ubuntu for phones

  • 02-01-2013 8:25pm
    #1
    Khannie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,485 ✭✭✭✭


    20 minute long video, only 15 of which I've watched so far, but this looks like a very cool alternative to android. I'm hoping it can dock and become a full on Linux PC. If that were the case I would dump android in a heartbeat.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpWHJDLsqTU


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  • #2
    PogMoThoin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,874 ✭✭✭✭PogMoThoin


    Khannie wrote: »
    20 minute long video, only 15 of which I've watched so far, but this looks like a very cool alternative to android. I'm hoping it can dock and become a full on Linux PC. If that were the case I would dump android in a heartbeat.

    I think that's the plan, are they working on two versions the full Ubuntu phone just announced today and Ubuntu for Android they announced last year?
    http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
    http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone

    I'd also consider changing from Android


  • #3
    Khannie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,485 ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    Yeah, I thought that initially, but there was no mention of the desktop so I'm just hoping. I guess that's not the aim of the video (to advertise it to already eager Ubuntu users), but instead to get others interested in it. He did mention using the linux kernel and native apps (tasty little performance bump), so it should be handy enough for them to achieve that.

    The swipe from the right idea for app switching is absolutely brilliant. I find app switching on android to be painful tbh. It's just as fast for me to go to the home screen.


  • #4
    shizz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,506 ✭✭✭shizz


    Khannie wrote: »
    Yeah, I thought that initially, but there was no mention of the desktop so I'm just hoping. I guess that's not the aim of the video (to advertise it to already eager Ubuntu users), but instead to get others interested in it. He did mention using the linux kernel and native apps (tasty little performance bump), so it should be handy enough for them to achieve that.

    The swipe from the right idea for app switching is absolutely brilliant. I find app switching on android to be painful tbh. It's just as fast for me to go to the home screen.

    It is mentioned here.


  • #5
    Amalgam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,026 ✭✭✭Amalgam


    Stumbled across some nice mainstream media coverage, courtesy of the BBC. Currently half way up the most read item chart today.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-20891868

    Is this distinct\different from the developer images floating around for the Nexus 7, on the Ubuntu site, or part of the same work?

    https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7/Installation

    I can't wait till things are more polished, along with, hopefully, favourites of mine, like Mint, tagging along..


  • #6
    bpb101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭bpb101


    http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/01/c...t-make-inroads

    CNN don't think its worth the bother
    The CNN article by Adrian Covert can be seen here

    one interesting thing is that this ubuntu smartphone will use all of the screen and this is great. However, Why dont android and iOS? The first thing that comes to mind is adverts. On the bottom of the screen and top of iphones there are ads. Where will be the ads in the Ubuntu smartphone.

    NO ad's? How do the developers make their money? - charge for the app?
    Then we run into a bigger problem. will all apps will have to be paid for.

    Its great that ubuntu is open source and this is all great but the people who make the apps aren’t. If angry bird ( just because its a free popular app) wants to go on this new ubuntu phone, then they have 3 choices - give it away for free and make no money , charge for it, dont bother

    right , lets say you got to fork out the 99c or whatever it is for angry birds , boo hoo its a euro , we have 1 more problem - why would i get an ubuntu smartphone ? sure all the apps cost money!

    One final comment why is the circle thing to see all apps at the bottom of the phone launcher , that’s just confusing


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  • #7
    shizz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,506 ✭✭✭shizz


    bpb101 wrote: »
    One final comment why is the circle thing to see all apps at the bottom of the phone launcher , that’s just confusing

    I presume its at the bottom rather than the top, as it is on Ubuntu, because your thumb can reach there easily.


  • #8
    bpb101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭bpb101


    shizz wrote: »
    I presume its at the bottom rather than the top, as it is on Ubuntu, because your thumb can reach there easily.
    i would change that if i could , maybe we can, if it actual comes out


  • #9
    shizz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,506 ✭✭✭shizz


    bpb101 wrote: »
    i would change that if i could , maybe we can, if it actual comes out

    To the top? Why? I'd imagine you would be holding it with one hand most of the time. You'd have to stretch much further for that.


  • #10
    Zascar
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 12,778 Mod ✭✭✭✭Zascar


    I just watched that video and wow that looks exciting! Can't wait until this comes out. If you have a nexus 7 you can get it soon but what about the other Android phones? I'd love to try it on my HTC One X.


  • #11
    PogMoThoin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,874 ✭✭✭✭PogMoThoin


    Zascar wrote: »
    I just watched that video and wow that looks exciting! Can't wait until this comes out. If you have a nexus 7 you can get it soon but what about the other Android phones? I'd love to try it on my HTC One X.

    Nexus 4? The Nexus 7 is a tablet


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  • #12
    Zascar
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 12,778 Mod ✭✭✭✭Zascar


    Sorry yes - the phone not the tablet ;)


  • #13
    bpb101
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    Zascar wrote: »
    I just watched that video and wow that looks exciting! Can't wait until this comes out. If you have a nexus 7 you can get it soon but what about the other Android phones? I'd love to try it on my HTC One X.
    The Nexus 7 installer installes a desktop enviroment. not a phone enviroment.
    Have a look at this video if you want ubuntu on your phone,

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0PNsnNe3E0



    Also , first review
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLtcj7FdIYA



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXWnMTm7We8


  • #14
    bpb101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭bpb101


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RO7QbCqFY7Y


  • #15
    Squeaky the Squirrel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭Squeaky the Squirrel


    Ubuntu Phones Will Arrive in October


  • #16
    Khannie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,485 ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    I wonder when we'll see beta / early adopters / whatever you want to call it. GIVE IT TO ME NOW!


  • #17
    PogMoThoin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,874 ✭✭✭✭PogMoThoin


    Dammit I want it too, getting tired of Android, need something new


  • #18
    Squeaky the Squirrel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭Squeaky the Squirrel


    Ubuntu for phones to arrive next week on Nexus 4

    ^preview


  • #19
    Khannie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,485 ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    Have a friend with a nexus 4. Going to try and convince him to install this.


  • #20
    Freddy Smelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 980 ✭✭✭Freddy Smelly


    ubuntu for phones will only run on quad core phones. it was tried on dual core phones but it had to be scrapped because the phones would take far too long to load anything.


  • #21
    Freddy Smelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 980 ✭✭✭Freddy Smelly


    PogMoThoin wrote: »
    Dammit I want it too, getting tired of Android, need something new

    android is basically linux based. so you wont see a huge difference tbh.


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  • #22
    PogMoThoin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,874 ✭✭✭✭PogMoThoin


    Freddy Smelly wrote: »
    android is basically linux based. so you wont see a huge difference tbh.

    I think you're wrong tbh, although both are linux based, Ubuntu and Android couldn't be further apart.
    http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/01/why-mark-shuttleworth-thinks-ubuntu-on-phones-will-outclass-android/


  • #23
    KTRIC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭KTRIC


    If its running on the Nexus 4 then you can bet someone will port it over to the S3 :D


  • #24
    PogMoThoin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,874 ✭✭✭✭PogMoThoin


    KTRIC wrote: »
    If its running on the Nexus 4 then you can bet someone will port it over to the S3 :D

    That's exactly what the Ubuntu team are hoping for. Shouldn't take long either, Samsung hardware is open source and they also open sourced the S3 software so all the tools are available to make it work.


  • #25
    Khannie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,485 ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    Khannie wrote: »
    Have a friend with a nexus 4. Going to try and convince him to install this.

    Effortlessly convinced. I'll report back what its like on launch day.


  • #26
    bpb101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭bpb101


    Tick, tock, tablet time!

    ?


  • #27
    Khannie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,485 ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    bpb101 wrote: »
    Tick, tock, tablet time!

    ?

    Interesting. Interesting indeed.


  • #28
    PogMoThoin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,874 ✭✭✭✭PogMoThoin


    bpb101 wrote: »
    Tick, tock, tablet time!

    ?

    What could that be, Shuttleworth said they were concentrating on phones for now and Android tablets later. I reckon it's a version for M$ Surface tablets


  • #29
    bpb101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭bpb101


    for these things i always have a stab in the dark and i am going to say it a tablet pre installed with ubuntu.

    second guess, they are going to show us what the phone that is going to be brought out in october will be.

    going with the tablet thou.


  • #30
    bpb101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭bpb101


    i had a look at the page source code and there nothing behind it, ie, when that clock hits zero , like the ubuntu phone countdown , nothing happens. There will have to be somebody on ubuntu side to change the web page, manually.

    The Phone sdk will be out the 21st so it aint that btw


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  • #31
    Squeaky the Squirrel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭Squeaky the Squirrel


    Canonical to announce Ubuntu tablet OS tomorrow


  • #32
    28064212
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,807 ✭✭✭✭28064212


    bpb101 wrote: »
    i had a look at the page source code and there nothing behind it, ie, when that clock hits zero , like the ubuntu phone countdown , nothing happens. There will have to be somebody on ubuntu side to change the web page, manually.
    That.... that's just not how it works. At all.

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  • #33
    bpb101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭bpb101


    28064212 wrote: »
    That.... that's just not how it works. At all.
    care to explain then?
    As in previous countdown clocks from ubuntu they hit zero and stay at zero until they are changed manually. The last time the page was so overloaded they couldnt change it

    so, care to explain?, if you can find the hidden link , please feel free to share it with the rest of us


  • #34
    bpb101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭bpb101


    Squeaky the Squirrel wrote: »
    Canonical to announce Ubuntu tablet OS tomorrow
    the bubbles , which have became a symbol of the ubuntu phone os , look like they will make a re appearances at 6 pm. They should have left a bit more of a mystery to this one, i hope they come up with something crazy like ubuntu drugs.(i dont know)


  • #35
    28064212
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,807 ✭✭✭✭28064212


    bpb101 wrote: »
    care to explain then?
    As in previous countdown clocks from ubuntu they hit zero and stay at zero until they are changed manually.
    You mean until the page is refreshed? That doesn't mean it's updated manually, that means it's automatically updated server-side
    bpb101 wrote: »
    The last time the page was so overloaded they couldnt change it
    No, it was so overloaded that only a certain amount of people could access it at the time. Again, nothing to do with manually changing anything.
    bpb101 wrote: »
    so, care to explain?, if you can find the hidden link , please feel free to share it with the rest of us
    There's no hidden link. What would be the point of a countdown if anybody could just hit Ctrl+U and find out all about it?

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  • #36
    bpb101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭bpb101


    So... Htc making a big annoucement today
    And the Theroys are off.
    > http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/02/htc-ubuntu-countdown-sync-fuels-tablet-speculation


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  • #37
    bpb101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭bpb101


    yeap it's a tablets os , but i must say it looks really nice.
    I could go on but somebody else could tell you.



  • #38
    PogMoThoin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,874 ✭✭✭✭PogMoThoin


    That looks amazing


  • #39
    bpb101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭bpb101


    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=83294882


  • #40
    Khannie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,485 ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    Khannie wrote: »
    Effortlessly convinced. I'll report back what its like on launch day.

    Well, today is launch day. This little ditty came with the launch:
    In rare circumstances, the Nexus4 may get into a state where it may not boot at all after the battery is drained ( even into recovery ). If this happens, the only way to restore it is to disassemble the back of the phone and unplug/plug the battery connector.

    ....aaaand therefore there will be no install at the moment.


  • #41
    MC_G
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 231 ✭✭MC_G


    Well, I think I'll be holding off as well with that little nugget. The last thing I want is to disassemble the N4.

    I can't wait to give this a shot though, maybe I'll get the nexus 7 Ive wanted...


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  • #42
    bpb101
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    only took a day to get it on the s3
    http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/02/ubuntu-phone-up-running-on-samsung-galaxy-s3


  • #43
    bpb101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭bpb101


    "

    Have you got experience in porting mobile OSs to new devices? Join the Port-a-thon and be part of the initiative to take Ubuntu Touch Developer Preview to a whole new level!



    " - ubuntu app developers fb


  • #44
    bpb101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭bpb101


    If and when we all fúck up your phones and tablets completely , here is how to get android back on them so we can claim the garentee and pretend nothing has happed

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfkmxvWVL7s


  • #45
    bpb101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭bpb101


    http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/02/how-to-install-ubuntu-phone-tablet-preview-on-nexus-devices


  • #46
    bpb101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭bpb101


    this was gave to ubuntu at mwc
    https://twitter.com/silbs/status/306434650895708161/photo/1


  • #47
    Khannie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,485 ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    They're releasing the developer version for a bunch of new phones including some not so high end ones (like the Huawei Ascend G300 which is very popular here).

    http://www.slashgear.com/ubuntu-touch-to-launch-developer-preview-on-over-20-more-devices-26271633/


  • #48
    bpb101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭bpb101


    Khannie wrote: »
    They're releasing the developer version for a bunch of new phones including some not so high end ones (like the Huawei Ascend G300 which is very popular here).

    http://www.slashgear.com/ubuntu-touch-to-launch-developer-preview-on-over-20-more-devices-26271633/


    Sounds good. Its Hard to justifying spending 500 euros on a nexus phone simple just to format it.:)


  • #49
    Zascar
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 12,778 Mod ✭✭✭✭Zascar


    Saying that, i'm due an upgrade soon and my choice will heavily depend on the ability to have multiple os's on it, Mainly ubuntu but I would quite like to give Firefox a bash too.


  • #50
    Khannie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,485 ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    bpb101 wrote: »
    Sounds good. Its Hard to justifying spending 500 euros on a nexus phone simple just to format it.:)

    They're actually a shed load cheaper than that. I can't remember what the actual figure is, but from memory I think it's around 350 all in for the cheapest one. They have 2G of RAM too, which is nice if you're considering using it as a desktop OS. I can confirm that desktop Linux works just dandy with 2G of RAM.


  • #51
    PogMoThoin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,874 ✭✭✭✭PogMoThoin


    Khannie wrote: »
    They're actually a shed load cheaper than that. I can't remember what the actual figure is, but from memory I think it's around 350 all in for the cheapest one.

    Way off, the Nexus 4 is $299 in the States, that's a little over €230. It works out at about €270 if you go through the UK and Parcel Motel


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