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Communions/confirmations, utter farce?

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  • Site Banned Posts: 45 shes_crazy


    Pherekydes wrote: »
    Death: How has the church defeated death? Noah and his many buddies of the Old Testament routinely lived to over 900 years of age. Since Christianity arrived, the record is about 120-130 years.

    Sigh.


  • Site Banned Posts: 45 shes_crazy


    Jernal wrote: »
    She's Crazy. Your opinion is welcome here; direct personal comments on another poster aren't. Please don't do it any more. Otherwise you may find yourself taking a holiday.
    Thanks,

    oldnwsr is a big boy I'm sure. I see the "intellectual lightweight" remark was particularly offensive to him

    Anyway, there appears to be a lot of childishness on here.

    Thank you for your kind welcome. However, the game that bully-boy boards.ie atheists like to play is not something this Christian wants to be a part of.

    Cheerio,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,190 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    shes_crazy wrote: »
    Sigh.

    Anything to say about the slavery perpetrated by the RCC in the Magdalen Laundries?


  • Site Banned Posts: 45 shes_crazy


    Pherekydes wrote: »
    Anything to say about the slavery perpetrated by the RCC in the Magdalen Laundries?

    Care to comment on the State's failure to inspect taxpayer-funded creches?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,190 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    shes_crazy wrote: »
    oldnwsr is a big boy I'm sure. I see the "intellectual lightweight" remark was particularly offensive to him

    Anyway, there appears to be a lot of childishness on here.

    Thank you for your kind welcome. However, the game that bully-boy boards.ie atheists like to play is not something this Christian wants to be a part of.

    Cheerio,

    I guess that means...


    ...run away!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,190 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    shes_crazy wrote: »
    Care to comment on the State's failure to inspect taxpayer-funded creches?

    I'm sure you'll claim, without a hint of irony, that this is a catholic country.


  • Site Banned Posts: 45 shes_crazy


    Pherekydes wrote: »
    I'm sure you'll claim, without a hint of irony, that this is a catholic country.

    I'd sooner place my child in the care of the nuns than of someone on €8.65 an hour who spends all day on Facebook.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭marienbad


    shes_crazy wrote: »
    Revisionist twaddle. I suppose you're a Colosseum-denier too? One is left wondering what else you deny...

    Why would I deny the Coliseum ? I feel no responsibility for what went on there.

    As as for your veiled reference to other events- that is a more applicable to your crowd is it not ? Pope Pius xii for example .

    Now care to enlighten us on how you defeated slavery ? And while you are at it you might explain how St.Paul's views fit in with that theory.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,190 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    shes_crazy wrote: »
    I'd sooner place my child in the care of the nuns than of someone on €8.65 an hour who spends all day on Facebook.

    You wouldn't object to them being used to operate the laundry?

    And maybe sold on to a "deserving couple" later?


  • Site Banned Posts: 45 shes_crazy


    marienbad wrote: »
    Why would I deny the Coliseum ? I feel no responsibility for what went on there.

    Unless of course you're trying to justify homosexuality and man-boy love relations by citing ancient Rome.


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  • Moderators Posts: 51,859 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    shes_crazy wrote: »
    I'd sooner place my child in the care of the nuns than of someone on €8.65 an hour who spends all day on Facebook.

    Yes, because who can pass up child abuse on the cheap:rolleyes:

    All my aunts and uncles that have experience in schools run by the nuns have nothing but horror stories of the beatings they received.

    If you can read this, you're too close!



  • Site Banned Posts: 45 shes_crazy


    koth wrote: »
    Yes, because who can pass up child abuse on the cheap:rolleyes:

    Oh so abuse (so long as it's funded by the State) is ok then?

    Do you accept that both State and Church abuse is wrong?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    shes_crazy off on holidays for at least one week. (Probably not the sunny kind.)


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭marienbad


    shes_crazy wrote: »
    Unless of course you're trying to justify homosexuality and man-boy love relations by citing ancient Rome.

    You are the one citing Rome my dear.

    Now care to enlighten me on St.Paul and slavery and the part he played in that great crusade to abolish it ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,063 ✭✭✭Kiwi in IE


    I like it when people have appropriate usernames!


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,063 ✭✭✭Kiwi in IE


    I was of course referring to oldrnwsr! ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,579 ✭✭✭swampgas


    Kiwi in IE wrote: »
    I was of course referring to oldrnwsr! ;)

    * innocent face *


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    Awww I missed all the fun :mad:

    Teach me to go have a zen gravel raking moment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,190 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    Awww I missed all the fun :mad:

    Teach me to go have a zen gravel raking moment.

    Yeah, the banhammer was brought out a trifle early. We could have just a bit more fun. We've been so good this week and all...


    /sulks


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,063 ✭✭✭Kiwi in IE


    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    Awww I missed all the fun :mad:

    Teach me to go have a zen gravel raking moment.

    I missed it too! I have a habit of coming in immediately after the party has been ended. I'm glad I'm not Jernal's teenage daughter! ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    I keep forgetting you guys are longing for pets to feed and keep warm. :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,070 ✭✭✭Birroc


    Jernal wrote: »
    shes_crazy off on holidays for at least one week. (Probably not the sunny kind.)

    What are the odds she'll make it to 100 posts or will she quit before then? I actually thought she wouldn't get to 50 but she's a glutton for punishment.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,868 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    Didn't even make 50 :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    Fairly sure that was a re-reg of a well known thespian themed troll who was sitebanned before.
    The style of argument is very similar.

    Troll: "Catholicism defeated slavery"
    Poster: "Didn't they run the Magdelene Laundaries?"
    Troll: "Hey look over there other people are doing bad things!"

    *Troll then personally abuses a regular poster before sauntering off with claims of bullying.

    There must be a manual or something. The pattern is very familiar.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,190 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    Galvasean wrote: »
    There must be a manual or something. The pattern is very familiar.

    Check printers near the Iona Institute to see if they've produced stuff of that nature.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭the culture of deference


    shes_crazy wrote: »

    The fact is that Christianity is culturally superior to anything that atheism has ever produced.


    This cultural superiority did not come about by accident.


    It is based on a set of core Truths


    There you will see how Christianity successfully defeated slavery, debauchery and death of old and brought about order, structure and beauty.

    Brilliant.

    I don't think I have ever seen such a delusional reply.

    This is worthy of sarah palin


    "Go back to what our founders and our founding documents meant -- they're quite clear -- that we would create law based on the God of the bible and the Ten Commandments."
    –-Sarah Palin, arguing that Judeo-Christian belief was the basis for American

    "All of 'em, any of 'em that have been in front of me over all these years." --Sarah Palin, unable to name a single newspaper or magazine she reads

    "'Refudiate,' 'misunderestimate,' 'wee-wee'd up.' English is a living language. Shakespeare liked to coin new words too. Got to celebrate it!'" --a Tweet sent by Sarah Palin

    "But obviously, we've got to stand with our North Korean allies." --Sarah Palin, after being asked how she would handle the current hostilities


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,513 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Galvasean wrote: »
    Fairly sure that was a re-reg of a well known thespian themed troll who was sitebanned before.
    The style of argument is very similar.

    There was a complete lack of reference to the male anus however.

    Scrap the cap!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    ninja900 wrote: »
    There was a complete lack of reference to the male anus however.

    Check out the posts in After Hours...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    I was wondering which bitter Catholic that would turn out to be. Normally I'd be sorry I missed all the fun, but I was at a combined hen/stag for two friends who are getting married in a very cynical and irreverent manner, and the amount of debauchery, kazoo solos of heavy metal songs, booze and my rekindled passionate relationship with pipe tobacco just pisses all over an anal-obsessed embittered shell of a human being...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,062 ✭✭✭number10a


    Penn wrote: »
    I don't think it matters when you make communion, but confirmation definitely shouldn't be until you're 18. You're confirming that you will continue to be a christian for the rest of your life, and that the promises your parents made for you at your baptism, you will continue with yourself. That's basically what the ceremony is. I was 11 when I made my confirmation. Not even nearly 12, about 11 and 3 months. I made that decision because I was told I was making that decision.

    It's complete horsesh*t that that takes place at such a young age. Like others, my confirmation was merely how I earned money for a Playstation. That was all I was thinking of.

    If confirmation didn't happen until you were 18 and there was no big ceremony about it, many people wouldn't bother with it.

    I thought the same thing too, but the Church has cunning ways around everything.

    They do this in Poland. You get your confirmation around 17/18. You'd think that would knock a huge amount off the numbers, but it doesn't. And there's no big money gifts in the equation either to sway anyone to go ahead with it. The kids get told that without their confirmation, they cannot get married in a church when the time comes. When you have so many young girls who dream about their big day in a beautiful building, they all sign up for it. Then you have all the teenage boys terrified of the wrath of a scorned woman 8 to 10 years down the line and they all sign up too.

    My Polish boyfriend went through with it for this very reason, even though he was trying to figure out his sexuality at the time. But he did it just in case anyway. Turned out he didn't need to do it at all now that he's ended up being shacked up with a dirty atheist homo like myself. :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭marienbad


    number10a wrote: »
    I thought the same thing too, but the Church has cunning ways around everything.

    They do this in Poland. You get your confirmation around 17/18. You'd think that would knock a huge amount off the numbers, but it doesn't. And there's no big money gifts in the equation either to sway anyone to go ahead with it. The kids get told that without their confirmation, they cannot get married in a church when the time comes. When you have so many young girls who dream about their big day in a beautiful building, they all sign up for it. Then you have all the teenage boys terrified of the wrath of a scorned woman 8 to 10 years down the line and they all sign up too.

    My Polish boyfriend went through with it for this very reason, even though he was trying to figure out his sexuality at the time. But he did it just in case anyway. Turned out he didn't need to do it at all now that he's ended up being shacked up with a dirty atheist homo like myself. :D

    I think it is the same in Ireland , no confirmation equals no marriage


  • Moderators Posts: 51,859 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    marienbad wrote: »
    I think it is the same in Ireland , no confirmation equals no marriage

    Yep. Have a letter from the parish I was baptised in that states that baptism and confirmation are required before you can be married.

    If you can read this, you're too close!



  • Registered Users Posts: 343 ✭✭FreshKnickers


    Until I had a child I never, ever could have guessed just how strongly people think they have the right to criticize, comment and/or condemn such intimate and important pateral decisions as that child's religious upbringing.

    The worst one was; sure, why not get her christened and she can decide later if she wants to believe in it or not. Really? Stand up in a church and declare that a) I am a Catholic and b) I agree to raise my daughter as a Catholic even though a) I am not and b) I have no intentions of doing this?

    I happen to disagree with the act of christening a child only for that child to never see the inside of a church again until they make their communion. But I wouldn't express that opinion to any parent who does do this. Why not? Because it's absoloutely none of my business.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,070 ✭✭✭Birroc


    I happen to disagree with the act of christening a child only for that child to never see the inside of a church again until they make their communion. But I wouldn't express that opinion to any parent who does do this. Why not? Because it's absoloutely none of my business.

    Well when we decided not to christen or subsequently 'communion' our children, we got lots and lots of people questioning, commenting and judging. Maybe that's why non practicing Catholics feel compelled to remain inside the fold/cult.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭shruikan2553


    koth wrote: »
    Yep. Have a letter from the parish I was baptised in that states that baptism and confirmation are required before you can be married.

    I thought it was only baptism needed? Googling it came up with a mix of answers were some saying you need to have done your confirmation while others dont. Although the yes side was filled with the crazys talking about how a marriage is between 3 people (man, woman and Christ. not sure why they are against gay people getting married now) so I am doubting them.

    Mum told me I was baptised so that I would be able to marry a catholic. Otherwise I'm going to be annoyed she signed me up with them.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,390 ✭✭✭clairefontaine


    Cherry picking and hypocrisy is the way to go. Following it for real is nuts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    Although the yes side was filled with the crazys talking about how a marriage is between 3 people (man, woman and Christ. not sure why they are against gay people getting married now) .

    Slightly OT.
    Marriage is first and foremost about both husband and wife committing themselves to God. (Then wife submitting to husband.)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    Jernal wrote: »
    Slightly OT.
    Marriage is first and foremost about both husband and wife committing themselves to God. (Then wife submitting to husband.)

    So marriage is God plus man plus indentured housekeeper/incubator.

    :pac:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭the culture of deference


    number10a wrote: »
    My Polish boyfriend went through with it for this very reason, even though he was trying to figure out his sexuality at the time. But he did it just in case anyway. Turned out he didn't need to do it at all now that he's ended up being shacked up with a dirty atheist homo like myself. :D

    You are in good company.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭the culture of deference


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,940 ✭✭✭Corkfeen


    The ultimate proof of the insidious liberal gay atheist agenda.... Uncertain on how it relates to the topic though... :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    Corkfeen wrote: »
    The ultimate proof of the insidious liberal gay atheist agenda.... Uncertain on how it relates to the topic though... :pac:

    Turing didn't make his communion?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,513 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Mum told me I was baptised so that I would be able to marry a catholic.

    So it didn't occur to her that you could easily do that yourself as an adult if you wanted?
    I think she might be fibbing a little.

    Scrap the cap!



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,562 ✭✭✭eyescreamcone


    Lovely occassion last sunday.
    Was having my brunch around 1pm on Main Street in Kinsale when the Corpus Christi procession came past.
    Led by 25 kids in the last wear of their communion outfits.
    Followed by a few priests and brothers and the kids parents.
    Lots/some houses had yellow and white (Vatican City colours) flags and bunting out.
    Some locals even had small statues of Ms. Mary Christ, her eldest son Jesus and some distant relation - a child from Prague, displayed outside the doorways of houses and business premises.

    Catholics and their offspring, the "cultural catholics", love a day out it seems.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,186 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    koth wrote: »
    Yep. Have a letter from the parish I was baptised in that states that baptism and confirmation are required before you can be married.
    i know of a few parishes where the priest will not marry you unless he actually recognises you, let alone a baptism or confirmation cert.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,736 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    Lovely occassion last sunday.
    Was having my brunch around 1pm on Main Street in Kinsale when the Corpus Christi procession came past.
    Led by 25 kids in the last wear of their communion outfits.
    Followed by a few priests and brothers and the kids parents.
    Lots/some houses had yellow and white (Vatican City colours) flags and bunting out.
    Some locals even had small statues of Ms. Mary Christ, her eldest son Jesus and some distant relation - a child from Prague, displayed outside the doorways of houses and business premises.

    Catholics and their offspring, the "cultural catholics", love a day out it seems.

    Jaysus, they still do Corpus Christi? I remember being dragged around the neighbourhood as a wee girl, yellow and white bunting everywhere. I didn't know that there still were Corpus Christi parades on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    Is that what those flags are for? Saw the church decked out this weekend alright. What's it in aid of?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,562 ✭✭✭eyescreamcone


    lazygal wrote: »
    Is that what those flags are for? Saw the church decked out this weekend alright. What's it in aid of?[QUOTE]

    Recruitment/collecting money/recruitment/etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    lazygal wrote: »
    Is that what those flags are for? Saw the church decked out this weekend alright. What's it in aid of?[QUOTE]

    Recruitment/collecting money/recruitment/etc

    Same old, same old, then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    lazygal wrote: »
    Is that what those flags are for? Saw the church decked out this weekend alright. What's it in aid of?

    Transubstantiation.


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