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Shannon Airport Thread [Mod Warning in First Post]

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  • #1752
    Brennans Row
    Registered Users Posts: 1,984 ✭✭✭Brennans Row


    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    As for the source can't disclose publicly but they are accurate. The CSO stats for the month will show the low % being carried to.
    Fair enough, the CSO will need 3-4 months before publishing the April figures.


  • #1753
    imurdaddy
    Site Banned Posts: 638 ✭✭✭imurdaddy


    highlydebased wrote: »
    Not only is it not a bailout it's not a bailout from the taxpayer! You can stop peddling that line now! We're all tired of it :mad:

    I think we all know shannon group is much bigger than just the airport facilities but some try pretend its going directly to SNN only, maybe ignorance or lack of understanding I dont know but its a ridiculous post to make.


  • #1754
    highlydebased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,470 ✭✭✭highlydebased


    I see the 2014 report has been released. Some interesting points
    http://www.shannongroup.ie/wp-content/uploads/Final-Shannon-Group-AR_V6-Mon-27th-April-2015.pdf
    Although State owned, the Group is funded exclusively through its own resources and receives no income from the Exchequer. The Group has cash reserves to meet its operating and recurring capital expenditure needs. The cash position
    of the Group at 31 December 2014 was €28 million.
    The profitability of the airport has also improved considerably in 2014 with earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation, and
    amortisation (EBITDA) of €4.6 million, an increase of 34 % on 2013. This increase in profit was achieved in part through passenger growth and new routes but also by managing improved cost efficiencies.

    Shannon Commercial Properties who have the contraversial rent roll...
    Operating profit from continuing activities and before impairments in 2014 amounted to €0.6 million versus a loss of
    €1.6 million in 2013. The Company continued to invest in its properties in 2014 with capital expenditure of €2.4 million. Among projects undertaken...


  • #1755
    Clareman
    Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    Mayomaffia banned for trolling.


  • #1756
    Clareman
    Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    I've done a lot of cleaning up on this tread, if you have a problem with a post, REPORT IT, don't respond to it.


  • #1757
    imurdaddy
    Site Banned Posts: 638 ✭✭✭imurdaddy


    We had two Antonov AN124-100 Ruslan visiting over the last two days, belong to Volga Dnepr they are the 2nd heaviest lifting aircraft in operation, beautiful aircraft and all ways great to see. Volga Dnepr even had a base at SNN in the 90s.


  • #1758
    JCX BXC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,227 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Anyone know whether Shannon Airport will be holding a 5km run again this summer?


  • #1759
    imurdaddy
    Site Banned Posts: 638 ✭✭✭imurdaddy


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    Anyone know whether Shannon Airport will be holding a 5km run again this summer?

    Of course!!! Sure they need the runners to boost their pax numbers to justify the 38m monthly handouts! ;)


  • #1760
    Airbus330
    Registered Users Posts: 198 ✭✭Airbus330


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    Anyone know whether Shannon Airport will be holding a 5km run again this summer?

    Yup 19th of June I believe..!


  • #1761
    Brennans Row
    Registered Users Posts: 1,984 ✭✭✭Brennans Row


    imurdaddy wrote: »
    We had two Antonov AN124-100 Ruslan visiting over the last two days, belong to Volga Dnepr they are the 2nd heaviest lifting aircraft in operation, beautiful aircraft and all ways great to see. Volga Dnepr even had a base at SNN in the 90s.
    I posted this before link, for those who did not see here it is again.

    Five big An124's on the ground at Shannon - the front pair exchanging cargo during a maintenance changeover. (Malcom Nason) :cool:


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  • #1762
    Clareman
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    imurdaddy banned for trolling.


  • #1763
    Clareman
    Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    Ok folks, this may surprise you, but myself and the other mods have far better things to do that deal with cr@p on here, we also don't go out of the way to censor or annoy people, we are simply here to try to help facilitate conversation and debate, if anyone decides to try to derail that we have no option but to act.

    This is the second Shannon Airport thread, and it is by far the most popular single thread in the Mid West, 99.999% of posting has been brilliant but some people are hell bent on derailing or trolling the debate, any such actions will result in a ban from the Clare forum.


  • #1764
    Jhcx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,776 ✭✭✭Jhcx


    Brennans Row wrote: »
    I posted this before link, for those who did not see here it is again.

    Five big An124's on the ground at Shannon - the front pair exchanging cargo during a maintenance changeover. (Malcom Nason) :cool:

    I always miss the drama in here lol.

    Anyway that's crazy to see so many on the ground at once.


  • #1765
    Jamie2k9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    Have Delta resumed slightly earlier this year or same as last year?


  • #1766
    JCX BXC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,227 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    Have Delta resumed slightly earlier this year or same as last year?

    About 2/3 weeks early this year.
    American Airlines also start earlier this year, they start in a week.


  • #1767
    Airbus330
    Registered Users Posts: 198 ✭✭Airbus330


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    About 2/3 weeks early this year.
    American Airlines also start earlier this year, they start in a week.

    But no posts on Facebook or Twitter about it. Do they realise that its very advertising? Too busy promoting the Ryanair's four euro flights to Manchester. They have a very poor social media presence..


  • #1768
    JCX BXC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,227 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Airbus330 wrote: »
    But no posts on Facebook or Twitter about it. Do they realise that its very advertising? Too busy promoting the Ryanair's four euro flights to Manchester. They have a very poor social media presence..

    I agree to an extent. They really should be advertising it, maybe offering a competition to win a flight.

    Looking around, Friends of Shannon Airport (The new official page for FOSA) have a piece on the delta resumption, as well as the resumption of flights to Majorca with Falcon.

    They also answer another of my questions, the 5k run will take place on the 19th of June. 2000places available.


  • #1769
    Brennans Row
    Registered Users Posts: 1,984 ✭✭✭Brennans Row


    According to FlightRadar24, Cubana flight CU471 from Madrid to Havana diverted to Shannon.

    This looks more like a stopover than a diversion.


  • #1770
    highlydebased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,470 ✭✭✭highlydebased


    Their social media is dreadful. I'd manage it for them if they'd Like!


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  • #1771
    Jhcx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,776 ✭✭✭Jhcx


    Brennans Row wrote: »
    According to FlightRadar24, Cubana flight CU471 from Madrid to Havana diverted to Shannon.

    This looks more like a stopover than a diversion.

    Diversion. Tech issue.... :/ that's now a stopover


  • #1772
    highlydebased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,470 ✭✭✭highlydebased


    Jhcx wrote: »
    Diversion. Tech issue.... :/ that's now a stopover

    Interesting goings on with the Cubana/Euroatlantic 767.

    Found this blog (in spanish but google chrome badly translates) written by some passengers who have been stuck there http://atriopress.blogspot.ie/2015/05/desolacion-cubana-en-un-paraiso-irlandes.html

    Airport fed them apparently, no hotel was organised. It landed About 6pm yesterday and looks to leave in an hour for Havana


  • #1773
    Brennans Row
    Registered Users Posts: 1,984 ✭✭✭Brennans Row


    Hundreds of passengers stranded at Shannon after Cuba flight diversion (The Journal)

    A lot of angry people to be heard on the youtube clip.

    **** Update ****

    If I understand NewsTalk correctly, then it was a planned refuel stop where a technical difficult emerged with one of the plane's tyres during refuelling.


  • #1774
    JCX BXC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,227 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    highlydebased wrote: »
    Interesting goings on with the Cubana/Euroatlantic 767.

    Found this blog (in spanish but google chrome badly translates) written by some passengers who have been stuck there http://atriopress.blogspot.ie/2015/05/desolacion-cubana-en-un-paraiso-irlandes.html

    Airport fed them apparently, no hotel was organised. It landed About 6pm yesterday and looks to leave in an hour for Havana

    They were full of praise of Ireland anyway.


  • #1775
    JCX BXC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,227 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    http://www.clarechampion.ie/air-cargo-service-to-take-off/

    To clarify confusion, the cargo service from Shannon to Chicago started Friday, any stops before that were only refueling.


  • #1776
    JCX BXC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,227 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    One of the Spanish/Cubans on the diverted Cubana flight posted on the Shannon Airport page that the flight was in fact hijacked.

    Could also be bad English on behalf of the diverted passenger.


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  • #1777
    Jhcx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,776 ✭✭✭Jhcx


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    One of the Spanish/Cubans on the diverted Cubana flight posted on the Shannon Airport page that the flight was in fact hijacked.

    Could also be bad English on behalf of the diverted passenger.

    That would be very un true . Was a divert for a tech issue. Took off. And landed again under "tech issue" I put those in commas cause it's all very sketchy. due to riverfest all hotels were booked up and only a handful of rooms. its a 10 hr flight to Cuba from here and one Hour to Madrid Flight origin. you would feel for the pax who were stranded all night in the terminal and late into today.

    just wanted to clear that before it becomes a mad mess about Shannon stopovers... Again lol


  • #1778
    JCX BXC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,227 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    What's the story with the Visa issue? Did the Cubans have to say in the airport no matter what due to them not have visas for Ireland? Suppose that would be the reason for no Accommodation.


  • #1779
    Jhcx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,776 ✭✭✭Jhcx


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    What's the story with the Visa issue? Did the Cubans have to say in the airport no matter what due to them not have visas for Ireland? Suppose that would be the reason for no Accommodation.

    Apparently law is any aircraft that originated in European airport doesn't need to to clear security or immigration. If in transit. those who left would probably have to have the correct visas I'm sure


  • #1780
    highlydebased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,470 ✭✭✭highlydebased


    A busy day yesterday, must've been nigh on 60 or 70 movements


  • #1781
    JCX BXC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,227 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    I find Sunday is the busiest in terms of commercial movements.


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  • #1782
    Jamie2k9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    AC1903 has diverted to Dublin while SNN was closer because of a medical emergency.

    Now I don't want to start a row about it but just pointing out the fact while SNN is impotent it's not critical.


  • #1783
    JCX BXC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,227 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    AC1903 has diverted to Dublin while SNN was closer because of a medical emergency.

    Now I don't want to start a row about it but just pointing out the fact while SNN is impotent it's not critical.

    Shannon may have been too close, the plane would have had to done quite a looping to drop the altitude necessary for Shannon.


  • #1784
    highlydebased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,470 ✭✭✭highlydebased


    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    AC1903 has diverted to Dublin while SNN was closer because of a medical emergency.

    Now I don't want to start a row about it but just pointing out the fact while SNN is impotent it's not critical.

    Was thinking so myself, Air Canada/rouge tend to divert to DUB as a rule perhaps because of their existing operation there


  • #1785
    Shannon757
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭Shannon757


    On a side note, does anyone know why there is an air canada rouge 767 parked at Shannon? My guess is that is was leased but i'm not sure.


  • #1786
    JCX BXC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,227 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Shannon757 wrote: »
    On a side note, does anyone know why there is an air canada rouge 767 parked at Shannon? My guess is that is was leased but i'm not sure.

    Is it that Air Canada Rouge that's clearly visible from the Viewing area? My guess is repainting for that one, AC rouge is a new concept by AC.

    There's a few interesting ones around Shannon. When I was there recently there was a Spice Jet, and 1 (or 2) Airbus A320 in the colours of the defunct Cyprus Airlines


  • #1787
    Airbus330
    Registered Users Posts: 198 ✭✭Airbus330


    Shannon757 wrote: »
    On a side note, does anyone know why there is an air canada rouge 767 parked at Shannon? My guess is that is was leased but i'm not sure.

    I've heard that the lease is up and its awaiting a new owner/operator!


  • #1788
    Shannon757
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭Shannon757


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    Is it that Air Canada Rouge that's clearly visible from the Viewing area? My guess is repainting for that one, AC rouge is a new concept by AC.

    There's a few interesting ones around Shannon. When I was there recently there was a Spice Jet, and 1 (or 2) Airbus A320 in the colours of the defunct Cyprus Airlines

    It's been there for at least 4 weeks now and is now in the middle of the airfield.
    It's not Canadian registered I think.

    Shannon does get an interesting mix alright. I got a few pics of Dermot Desmond's Falcon 7x today if anyones interested.


  • #1789
    highlydebased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,470 ✭✭✭highlydebased


    Not 100% but the Rouge is ex Kenya Airways I think, one of the many that arrived to Shannon a few months back. Should be leaving for Rouge soon!


  • #1790
    Shannon757
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭Shannon757


    highlydebased wrote: »
    Not 100% but the Rouge is ex Kenya Airways I think, one of the many that arrived to Shannon a few months back. Should be leaving for Rouge soon!

    I think it was a 5Y prefix so it very well could be but how come they don't just take it instead of having it sitting idle?


  • #1791
    JCX BXC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,227 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    So, does anyone think the routes promised* by FR will materialise in September?


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  • #1792
    Airbus330
    Registered Users Posts: 198 ✭✭Airbus330


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    So, does anyone think the routes promised* by FR will materialise in September?

    Not sure really. Though it would be good, it would be nice to see someone else put in routes that are needed..can't imagine a Copenhagen or Bratislava doing very well! Hardly be high frequency anyway

    Barcelona would be great (El Prat NOT Girona :P)


  • #1793
    JCX BXC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,227 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Besides Ryanair, who could realistically introduce more routes into Shannon?


  • #1794
    Airbus330
    Registered Users Posts: 198 ✭✭Airbus330


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    Besides Ryanair, who could realistically introduce more routes into Shannon?

    Stobart make some sort of comeback I suppose..I don't know there is a whole load of airlines out there..presume there is constant negotiations going on though

    Wonder would Stobart ever venture outside of the UK on year around scheduled services..to Amsterdam, Paris etc. wishful thinking I know just wondering does anyone think they'd ever consider it?


  • #1795
    JCX BXC
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    No delta flight today?


  • #1796
    knockon
    Registered Users Posts: 518 ✭✭✭knockon


    Delta not daily until May 11th - 6 days except Tuesday until then.


  • #1797
    Brennans Row
    Registered Users Posts: 1,984 ✭✭✭Brennans Row


    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    AC1903 has diverted to Dublin while SNN was closer because of a medical emergency.

    Now I don't want to start a row about it but just pointing out the fact while SNN is impotent it's not critical.

    I agree it defies logic, was the medical emergency not life threatening enough?


  • #1798
    Davys Fits
    Registered Users Posts: 511 ✭✭✭Davys Fits


    Brennans Row wrote: »
    I agree it defies logic, was the medical emergency not life threatening enough?

    Without knowing any facts its hard understand logic. If they needed to dump or burn fuel, then Dublin would be just as suitable as Shannon . What was the weather/wind at the time? Maybe conditions at Dublin were more suitable. What was the medical condition? Dublin would be better equipped for certain emergencies. Air Canada already operate from Dublin making it a more suitable alternate in this case. Given their profile in relation to SNN/DUB a decent into Dublin would have taken no longer than SNN.
    Its not always a case of get your ass on the ground at all costs unless of course its on fire.


  • #1799
    mrsoundie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭mrsoundie


    Davys Fits wrote: »
    Without knowing any facts its hard understand logic. If they needed to dump or burn fuel, then Dublin would be just as suitable as Shannon . What was the weather/wind at the time? Maybe conditions at Dublin were more suitable. What was the medical condition? Dublin would be better equipped for certain emergencies. Air Canada already operate from Dublin making it a more suitable alternate in this case. Given their profile in relation to SNN/DUB a decent into Dublin would have taken no longer than SNN.
    Its not always a case of get your ass on the ground at all costs unless of course its on fire.

    Was there a Doctor on board? Did he consult with the Captain? Did they discuss this over the radio and make the decision that way? In the whole story, there are a lot of what ifs. Unless we were there, we may never know.


  • #1800
    Brennans Row
    Registered Users Posts: 1,984 ✭✭✭Brennans Row


    Aer Lingus passenger numbers drop over 5% in April (RTE)

    **************************************************************

    Apparently, the Aer Lingus Regional (Stobart Air) passenger numbers for April have fallen by 10.7% to 100,000 from 112,000 the same time last year.

    The drop roughly equals the number they flew from Shannon last year (13,641 passengers).

    Curious to see how Shannon to Heathrow, Boston and New York fared out.


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  • #1801
    Jhcx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,776 ✭✭✭Jhcx


    Brennans Row wrote: »
    Apparently, the Aer Lingus Regional (Stobart Air) passenger numbers for April have fallen by 10.7% to 100,000 from 112,000 the same time last year.

    The drop roughly equals the number they flew from Shannon last year (13,641 passengers).

    Curious to see how Shannon to Heathrow, Boston and New York fared out.

    Tbh i wouldn't be overall surprised. a simple observation shows management have no interest in anything with the airline at Shannon. merely just keeping up appearances now at this stage. now I'm only judging as a passenger. Id say the loss of stobart really hit them at Shannon. and know a handful of people upset that they were diverted to transit through Dublin and by bus/train to reach Munster making it an inconvenience. Does anybody know if Edinburgh is coming back?


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