New England Patriots thread (MOD WARNING - #4503)

JCTO wrote: »

Chekwa gone so another CB gone although he was more a ST. And guess who is back Spikes! Never thought I would see the day.

The weekly CB cuts continue

I haven’t been on Boards.ie since the prejudicial work of fiction that is the Wells report was released. No doubt I probably missed some amount of nonsense from haters & baiters, who must have desperately tried to milk such a pathetically minor issue as the psi levels in a football. Anyway I’m not concerned with that nonsense, but I am concerned with Robert kraft.

His U turn last week left a very bitter taste in my mouth and I can safely say I have lost respect for the man after what he did. After the ridiculous punishments were announced, Kraft raised the battle standard, made his battle cry and rallied the fans. He then opens a webpage correctly pointing out some of the nonsense in the Wells Report.

And after all this, he then decides to abandon the cause and meekly get back in line to accept an unjust way OTT punishment against the franchise. His membership of the billionaire owners club of 32, obviously means more to him than the good name and honour of the franchise. I also don’t swallow his for the good of the league bull**** excuse. Patriot way my hole.

If he had any interest in his so called Patriot way nonsense, he would have put his team first and not waved the white flag to his club of 32 buddies. I couldn’t care less if a legal fight may or may not have been eventually futile. Some things in life come down to principle and honour and kraft for me put money and business interests above all that.

It’s a massive betrayal to all us loyal fans and I never thought Kraft had that kind of behaviour in him. We’ve lost some great players down the years because we wouldn’t give a little bit extra. Kraft didn’t practice what he’s been preaching all this years. He put money and his elite buddies before the team.

Buddies that most be delighted to seem him roll over and accept this nonsense. Anything that handicaps the leagues most dominant franchise must fill rival owners with glee. Because it only increases their chance of success. Yet it would appear that Kraft is way to naive to even see it.

Because of our team first policy we lost Vereen for the sake of an extra $500,000. We cut players like Arrington and with the cap space we’ve created, we could have kept Revis. But no, Rob wouldn’t budge, let the players follow the money if they want, because the team always come first. Ironic then, to see kraft following the money and putting his team last.

Kraft lost a golden chance to expose the NFL and the league office & the little mini-Jets mafia that’s in there. The misinformation, the inaccurate leaks, Kensil and his judgmental commentary before anything was even released. Goodell then making no attempt to apologise for the inaccurate leaks or even investigate them. A Federal court slaughtered Goodell last year over the Ray Rice affair and it would have ripped up the prejudicial & assumptive nonsense in the Wells report.

So I’ll never accept Kraft’s weasel words and any attempt he might make trying to defend his actions. He put the billionaires club first and there’s no other way he can spin it. I’ve been a Pats fan long before Kraft took over and I’ll be a Pats fan long after he is gone. My loyalty is to the team and the coach and it always will be. In fact to be honest, I don’t give a crap who owns the franchise as long as they adhere to two rules – don’t meddle with the HC/GM/team and don’t move the franchise.

I’ll credit Kraft for having the wisdom in picking Belichick and having the cop on to learn from the fu©k ups he made with Parcells. But Belichick and Brady have made this franchise what it is today. We’ve been blessed to have the GOAT HC and GOAT QB working together for so long and as long as we can keep it that way I’m happy.

JCTO wrote: »

Corvus I get the anger for Bob right now but even if he wanted to take on the NFL I feel like many do it would have been a bad idea for the Organization as the other owners were not backing him. The dilemma we are then faced with is what if the other owners gang up and vote Bob out as an owner which they have the power to do. That would have left the legacy in ruins and in the unknown of what chump was going to take over and buy in.

From a business stand point he was stuck between a rock and a hard place really. Whether us fans ever agree on that or not it is not our call and it sucks that we have to live with the decision he made.

The risk of being voted out was always there, but it was something I could never see happening. The Patriots are the best run franchise in the league and have become a model organisation for other owners. I think any attempt to push Kraft out would have done untold damage to the league and to the NFL's image. It would have gone nuclear and if it reached a Federal court, the Wells report nonsense would have been shredded and with it the justification for attacking Kraft. kraft not having the balls to call their bluff over any threat/bullying and sticking to his guns is what really pisses me off.

I also hope he doesn't try to twist Brady's arm to force him to back down. Because one thing we all know, Brady's a fighter and he'll not take any shít from the clown Goodell. Unless Goodell wipes away the suspension, this is going to Federal court and I think Tom & his team are really relishing that prospect. Any meddling by Kraft could permanently damage his relationship with Brady. So I hope he has the good sense to not jeopardise that.

Had an hour after work before i could go out last night so watched the 4th quarter of the SB....gets better with every watch. Excited for the season now

Unless he turns out to be a revelation at TE, I'll be shocked if Bequette makes the roster for 2015.

I'm really looking forward to seeing Scott Chandler on the field and I'm excited at the thought of him and Gronk lining up on a redzone trip. Just imagine Gronk, Minitron, La Fell, Chandler and a pass catching RB lining up in the redzone. Defenses would literally shít themselves.:)

eagle eye wrote: »

I just gotta say that I'm considering not watching the NFL anymore. All this rubbish that has gone on and Kraft not appealing has left me feeling quite gutted. Unless Brady wins his appeal and misses no games I think I might just move away from the NFL.

Jaysus eagle don't do that, your a long time Pats fan. I have to admit I did very briefly feel that, but I came to my senses because I won't let the bastárds grind me down. Like some of us, your were a Pats fan long before Kraft took over so fúck him and what he does. I follow the team and support our HC and I couldn't careless who owns the team now.

As for Brady, if the ban isn't removed he will take it to court, get an injunction and he won't miss one game this season. I'll actually be disappointed if Goodell overturns the ban. Because I'm especially looking forward to watching Goodell and the piece of prejudicial buffoonery that is the Wells report, getting ripped apart by a Federal judge.

JaMarcusHustle wrote: »

Jesus, you two have gushed over Kraft in the past and now you're on to booing him and saying "**** him"...?

Yes Kraft got my praise because he always behaved in an admirable manner. But for me, his behaviour in recent weeks has been less than admirable. But now you think I'm onto booing Kraft Maybe you should read what I actually said RE:booing...

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

I agree that some fans have gone way OTT with calls to boo Kraft, boycott games, stop buying team merchandise and with some even saying they're finished with the NFL. That's just nonsense imo and hurts the team more than anything.

I made it very clear that I have lost a lot of respect for Kraft, I never said anything about booing him. But now thanks to Kraft's farcical behaviour, I now don't give a fúck who owns the team, the same way I don't give a crap who owns Man United. That's because I was a United fan long before the Glazers took over. And that's a reality for most sports fans, ownership usually doesn't and shouldn't have any influence on their loyalty to a team.

JaMarcusHustle wrote: »

You're both being very melodramatic and choosing to have short memories.

Could you explain to me where I was actually being melodramatic?

I made it very clear that I will always support the team and the HC, like I did long before Kraft took over. All Kraft did was remind me why I am a Pats fan and that has nothing to do with who owns the team and never will. I said I was a fan during the O'Sullivan years and I will still be a fan long after Kraft is gone. So I'm failing to see any melodrama in a forthright and honest opinion.

JaMarcusHustle wrote: »

Eagle Eye was the one who was talking about booing him.

You said "your were a Pats fan long before Kraft took over so fúck him and what he does."

Thats incredibly disrespectful and a way over the top reaction.

Disrespectful to who? kraft? Many would argue that Kraft disrespected the fans who have lined his pockets by what he did. So don't talk to me about disrespect. He abandoned a just fight that could have exposed the NFL's nonsense. He rallied the fans and then did a complete U turn. It is what it is, there is no sugar coating it.

I have alternated between saying I now don't give a crap/give a fúck who owns the team. And didn't I clearly outline my rationale for feeling that way? I didn't just pluck those sentiments out of thin air and post them for the sake of it.

I made it very clear that ownership doesn't matter to me. I appreciate the stability that Kraft has brought, but if he sells out tomorrow I couldn't give a crap. And why you ask? Because the NFL is booming, the owners are milking it and the club of 31 would carefully vet any new member wanting to take over the franchise. They would not allow a wrecking ball into their club to destroy a golden goose franchise.

If Kraft sold the franchise tomorrow I would still be a fanatical Pats fan. And I think that's how most fans also feel. They are not fans because of ownership. So in that sense, who gives a crap who owns the franchise and I can't see how that is being ott. But if you want to see ott reactions, go to Patsfans.com and some of the American Pats fans forums. You'll see some serious hate there, which I think is completely ridiculous btw.