Cabbage Desktop / Cabbage Mobile mega thread (Desktop/mobile texting app)

kaimera · 02-12-2007 12:40pm

heh, you blame meteor for you entering your pw wrong a few times? n00b mistake

Sam Vimes · 02-12-2007 12:47pm

kaimera wrote: »

heh, you blame meteor for you entering your pw wrong a few times? n00b mistake

i hang my head in shame

Nick_oliveri · 02-12-2007 12:51pm

Nice one Vimes. That didnt take you long.

Sam Vimes · 02-12-2007 12:53pm

Nick_oliveri wrote: »

Nice one Vimes. That didnt take you long.

they didn't really change that much, just the address of the page for logging in. getting it working again only took 5 mins and the rest was debugging

regedit · 04-12-2007 4:46pm

The application works fine with me. Started using it yesterday. The only issue is when I sent a text message, it sends two copies?
Any explataion for this?

Sam Vimes · 04-12-2007 7:08pm

regedit wrote: »

The application works fine with me. Started using it yesterday. The only issue is when I sent a text message, it sends two copies?
Any explataion for this?

what network are you on? does it take two texts from your allowance or just one? does it do it every time?

regedit · 04-12-2007 9:16pm

Commander Vimes wrote: »

what network are you on? does it take two texts from your allowance or just one? does it do it every time?

I am on O2(the number however starts with 087 but is in fact O2 network).
I tried sending about 20 sms today and it did this on each occasion.
In fairness, i did it from work and we use a proxy.
I retried now from home (using booth O2 and Vodafone and it sent them OK, do doubling.
BTW, text go smoother -faster from O2 than from Vodafone-I don't know the reason

Sam Vimes · 04-12-2007 11:25pm

regedit wrote: »

I am on O2(the number however starts with 087 but is in fact O2 network).
I tried sending about 20 sms today and it did this on each occasion.
In fairness, i did it from work and we use a proxy.
I retried now from home (using booth O2 and Vodafone and it sent them OK, do doubling.
BTW, text go smoother -faster from O2 than from Vodafone-I don't know the reason

the reason its slower for vodafone is that i don't have code for sending texts from the client for o2, it accesses a server. if you click the 'use server' link in 'settings->manage server' it'll go smooth for vodafone too.

i have no idea why its sending twice from o2 tbh, no one else has reported the problem and i've never seen it myself despite sending hundreds for testing. do your remaining texts reduce by 1 or 2 when you do it?

try changing the server in the manage server option to:
http://mamak.eu/sms/send.php

regedit · 05-12-2007 9:17am

Commander Vimes wrote: »

the reason its slower for vodafone is that i don't have code for sending texts from the client for o2, it accesses a server. if you click the 'use server' link in 'settings->manage server' it'll go smooth for vodafone too.

i have no idea why its sending twice from o2 tbh, no one else has reported the problem and i've never seen it myself despite sending hundreds for testing. do your remaining texts reduce by 1 or 2 when you do it?

try changing the server in the manage server option to:
http://mamak.eu/sms/send.php

Commander Vimes,
Changed the server to the one provided above but it still sends me 2 texts and "chjarges me 2 texts (they reduce by two). I the message history of the application, it only registers one message as sent.

Sam Vimes · 05-12-2007 10:41am

regedit wrote: »

Commander Vimes,
Changed the server to the one provided above but it still sends me 2 texts and "chjarges me 2 texts (they reduce by two). I the message history of the application, it only registers one message as sent.

that's very odd. It must have something to do with your proxy. Does it send two when you select your vodafone account with or without using the server?

I know a way of stopping it, basically since i don't know how to fix the problem directly i'm going to add a line to the server code that stops you sending the same text to the same person with a gap of less than ten seconds. I'll do it when i get home later and hopefully that'll fix the problem

regedit · 05-12-2007 11:43am

Commander Vimes wrote: »

that's very odd. It must have something to do with your proxy. Does it send two when you select your vodafone account with or without using the server?

I know a way of stopping it, basically since i don't know how to fix the problem directly i'm going to add a line to the server code that stops you sending the same text to the same person with a gap of less than ten seconds. I'll do it when i get home later and hopefully that'll fix the problem

Vodafone and O2 act the same.
For me, O2 is more convenient as it is enabled to send txts abroad as well.

Sam Vimes · 05-12-2007 12:14pm

regedit wrote: »

Vodafone and O2 act the same.
For me, O2 is more convenient as it is enabled to send txts abroad as well.

do they act the same whether you have 'use server' selected or not? I should have it fixed by tonight either way

regedit · 05-12-2007 2:59pm

Commander Vimes wrote: »

do they act the same whether you have 'use server' selected or not? I should have it fixed by tonight either way

It sends the second message about 6 seconds later!
Changed the server to http://mamak.eu/sms/send.php but no help.

Sam Vimes · 05-12-2007 3:35pm

regedit wrote: »

It sends the second message about 6 seconds later!
Changed the server to http://mamak.eu/sms/send.php but no help.

does it do it even if you uncheck the checkbox next to 'use server' when using the vodafone account? With o2 it uses the server whether the option is checked or not but with vodafone it sends it a different way.

and when you say it sends it 6 seconds later, do the messages just arrive 6 seconds apart or does the program report that its sent and how many messages are left, them start the sending process again and report another sent with a new 'messages left' number?

Sam Vimes · 05-12-2007 6:42pm

i've uploaded the code to a new server that i don't want to post on the main thread. i'll pm you the link

regedit · 05-12-2007 8:09pm

Commander Vimes wrote: »

does it do it even if you uncheck the checkbox next to 'use server' when using the vodafone account? With o2 it uses the server whether the option is checked or not but with vodafone it sends it a different way.

and when you say it sends it 6 seconds later, do the messages just arrive 6 seconds apart or does the program report that its sent and how many messages are left, them start the sending process again and report another sent with a new 'messages left' number?

The text arrives about 6 seconds later.
Iunchecked the O2 use server.
Will let you know tomorrow if the new code does the job.
As stated previosly, it works fine from home.

_Kaiser_ · 05-12-2007 11:55pm

Latest version seems to have resolved the probs I was having with Meteor the last few days as well.

Question: is it possible to implement a feature where the program checks for updates on startup and notifies you if so?

Sam Vimes · 06-12-2007 9:44am

Kaiser2000 wrote: »

Latest version seems to have resolved the probs I was having with Meteor the last few days as well.

Question: is it possible to implement a feature where the program checks for updates on startup and notifies you if so?

indeed it is. I'll have that feature in by tonight

Sam Vimes · 06-12-2007 6:30pm

i just put that feature in and tested it a bit. the problem is it takes about a second for the program to load every time because it has to access the download site.

i think it'd start to annoy people having to wait for the program to access a website that could be running slow every time they want to send a text, especially considering updates will become less and less frequent as all the bugs are found.

there'll (hopefully) come a stage when it only has to be updated when the networks change their sites and they only do that once a year or so. i don't think its necessary to check for an update up to 300 times a month when there's only an update once a year

so who wants the feature and who doesn't?

misho · 06-12-2007 7:41pm

I don't really need it, I can always check what's new checking this thread.
Good work Commander Vimes, thanks.

Slaanesh · 06-12-2007 7:44pm

Thread the update detection so that it runs in parallel with program execution. So it notifies you that there is an update when you are using the program as opposed to when starting.

MartMax · 06-12-2007 8:08pm

Commander Vimes wrote:

so who wants the feature and who doesn't?

can you make it an option somewhere in settings ?

Marty

p/s: where do i download the up to date version?

Sam Vimes · 06-12-2007 8:12pm

Slaanesh wrote: »

Thread the update detection so that it runs in parallel with program execution. So it notifies you that there is an update when you are using the program as opposed to when starting.

can visual basic do threads? if it can then i don't know anything about them. i've thought of another way of doing it though so i'll do that instead

Sam Vimes · 06-12-2007 8:14pm

mart_max wrote: »

can you make it an option somewhere in settings ?

Marty

p/s: where do i download the up to date version?

i'll make it an option and as i said i thought of a way not to affect the interface.

don't put up a new version at the moment. i'm doing a bit of updating

Drakar · 07-12-2007 1:14pm

http://sms.donutsoft.net/sendsms.aspx gives Service unavailable atm but unchecking the use server box works great thanks.

Sam Vimes · 07-12-2007 1:32pm

Drakar wrote: »

http://sms.donutsoft.net/sendsms.aspx gives Service unavailable atm but unchecking the use server box works great thanks.

that's why i made the program in the first place

unfortunately o2 customers can't use it at the moment because unchecking the box does nothing for o2.

but cabaal has kindly offered to let me host my code on his server so by this evening o2 should be up and running

Cabaal · 07-12-2007 1:32pm

I've converted a few people in work to this today, there well impressed with it

MartMax · 07-12-2007 1:54pm

yeah, it's a brilliant piece of software. i've never used as much as 200 of my O2 text allowance - that was my usage last month

. Handy as I hate typing messages on mobile! Thanks for Mr. Vimes for his great efforts.

Marty

p/s: is version 1.5 the latest one?

Sam Vimes · 07-12-2007 2:42pm

mart_max wrote: »

yeah, it's a brilliant piece of software. i've never used as much as 200 of my O2 text allowance - that was my usage last month . Handy as I hate typing messages on mobile! Thanks for Mr. Vimes for his great efforts.

Marty

p/s: is version 1.5 the latest one?

i somehow forgot that you're hosting a working o2 script too. Anyone using o2 can use this server for the moment

http://www.mamak.eu/sms/send.php

yes 1.5 is the latest. I'm working on a new release at the moment that should be out by monday

Sam Vimes · 08-12-2007 6:22am

There's a new version out with a lot of new stuff in it. you can get it at the normal address:
http://geocities.com/cabbagetexter/cabbage.zip

or at the new all singing all dancing address:
http://cabaal.org/cabbage/cabbage.zip

all new versions will be there because geocities is crap. i can't upload it here because its too big now

the stuff i added is:
1. you can set an option to check for an update on startup

2. i wrote a server side script for preventing the duplicate messages that regedit was getting. i'm not posting the address publicly. if anyone's having the problem, pm me or wait until i get it up onto a proper server that won't crash if everyone starts to use it

3. it comes in an installer now

4. you can check how many messages you have left. not for o2 right now but hopefully in a day or two. and you can only check with the other networks when use server isn't checked. the server script to check for all the networks is written but i have to wait for mart_max to update his server.
@mart_max, i've uploaded the files to the usual place. you know how to get them right?

5. a better interface for choosing the server

6. a new skin

7. a few other bugs fixed

with that much added up until 05:18 there are guaranteed to be some bugs. let me know if you find any

Caliden · 09-12-2007 11:47pm

Can this be used on your mobile similar to AFT?

Sam Vimes · 09-12-2007 11:49pm

Caliden wrote: »

Can this be used on your mobile similar to AFT?

nope. i'm working on one but i don't know java and i don't really have time to learn so its a slow process

Cabaal · 10-12-2007 5:59pm

New version working fine for me on Meteor

we need a java version like JSMS so we can run it on linux and osx ,

Sam Vimes · 11-12-2007 9:22am

Cabaal wrote: »

New version working fine for me on Meteor

we need a java version like JSMS so we can run it on linux and osx ,

the problem with that is i don't know any java whatsoever. I'm going to be posting the code very soon so anyone is free to try to translate it. And i started learning java a few days ago so i might be able to do it myself soon enough

matthiku · 11-12-2007 12:14pm

Brilliant little tool!
Latest version works fine on O2.

Little idea: set the "Escape" key to minimize/hide the window (helpful after sending a message - I'm a keyboard masochist...)

misho · 11-12-2007 12:48pm

I'm a keyboard masochist myself also. Using "Alt+space bar" and then "N" key for all windows works just fine for me.

Sam Vimes · 12-12-2007 9:50am

matthiku wrote: »

Brilliant little tool!
Latest version works fine on O2.

Little idea: set the "Escape" key to minimize/hide the window (helpful after sending a message - I'm a keyboard masochist...)

i've added that to the new version but i won't be uploading it til tonight or maybe tomorrow because i'm doing some other stuff with it

Sam Vimes · 12-12-2007 3:14pm

got it done sooner than i thought. You can get the new version at:

http://cabaal.org/cabbage/download.php

i've uploaded this one to geocities but this will be the last version that'll be available from there. all newer ones will be uploaded to cabaal.org only.

again, let me know about any bugs

Cabaal · 12-12-2007 3:50pm

Commander Vimes wrote: »

got it done sooner than i thought. You can get the new version at:

http://cabaal.org/cabbage/download.php

i've uploaded this one to geocities but this will be the last version that'll be available from there. all newer ones will be uploaded to cabaal.org only.

again, let me know about any bugs

Why not use a index file so it gives you a nicer URL of
http://cabaal.org/cabbage/

[EDIT] Neveremind I see you also have a index file

Since the front of my website has had nothing other then a google search box on it for the past 6 months I thought I'd also stick a l;ink to cabbage their, I'll maker a better front page when I get some time.

Should make it easy for people to front cabbage

The site looks good

Sam Vimes · 12-12-2007 3:52pm

Cabaal wrote: »

Why not use a index file so it gives you a nicer URL of
http://cabaal.org/cabbage/

i have an index file. http://cabaal.org/cabbage/ also works. the link i gave brings you directly to the download page

nava · 12-12-2007 3:53pm

Hi

thanks again for a great tool.

Couple of suggestions,

Now you have the new feature to Minimize to task bar while sending, when it finishes sending it maximizes again, thought it will be better if it will show a balloon pop-up after done in the task bar, if it can be done.

Also on the sending, in my case after I send a text I get a reply and send again to the same number, so I thought if after sending the name and number remains in the "to" so no need to typing again.

Thanks

Sam Vimes · 12-12-2007 3:59pm

nava wrote: »

Now you have the new feature to Minimize to task bar while sending, when it finishes sending it maximizes again, thought it will be better if it will show a balloon pop-up after done in the task bar, if it can be done.

that is both possible and a good idea. it'll be in the next release

nava wrote: »

Also on the sending, in my case after I send a text I get a reply and send again to the same number, so I thought if after sending the name and number remains in the "to" so no need to typing again.

Thanks

now that i'm not so sure of. you send to the same person the whole time but that doesn't mean everyone does and i think that leaving it there would annoy more people than taking it out. maybe i could leave the number there but highlighted so people who want to leave it can tab to the message box and people who want to change it can just start typing. hmmmmmm...

Cabaal · 12-12-2007 4:13pm

Commander Vimes wrote: »

i have an index file. http://cabaal.org/cabbage/ also works. the link i gave brings you directly to the download page

Yeah saw that,

Since the front of my website has had nothing other then a google search box on it for the past 6 months I thought I'd also stick a l;ink to cabbage their, I'll maker a better front page when I get some time.

Should make it easy for people to find cabbage,

The site looks good

10-10-20 · 12-12-2007 4:28pm

Working well on Vodafone here. Just a comment - running version 1.61, but it wants to pull down an update despite the fact that the update is the same version...!
Maybe you could place the version number in the filename of the zip file also? It would just make it somewhat easier to work out whether there actually is an update or not!

Cabaal · 12-12-2007 4:30pm

Here's a suggestion for cabbage website,

Few people I work with have restricted PC's so they can't install applications, as such they can't use cabbage,

Can you make a available a zip file with the cabbage exe and required files so that people on restricted PC's that can't install programs can use it?

Maybe just add it to the download page as a alt option?

Sam Vimes · 12-12-2007 4:31pm

10-10-20 wrote: »

Working well on Vodafone here. Just a comment - running version 1.61, but it wants to pull down an update despite the fact that the update is the same version...!
Maybe you could place the version number in the filename of the zip file also? It would just make it somewhat easier to work out whether there actually is an update or not!

the newest version is 1.62. whats happening is cabbage is checking for a new version, realising its 1.62 and then sending you to the link but your browser is downloading a cached version. if you clear your cache you should get the new version, or go to http://cabaal.org/cabbage/

i'm putting in version numbers now

Sam Vimes · 12-12-2007 4:32pm

Cabaal wrote: »

Here's a suggestion for cabbage website,

Few people I work with have restricted PC's so they can't install applications, as such they can't use cabbage,

Can you make a available a zip file with the cabbage exe and required files so that people on restricted PC's that can't install programs can use it?

Maybe just add it to the download page as a alt option?

i completely forgot about that. and after specifically not making an installer before to prevent this problem. i'll do that now

Cabaal wrote: »

The site looks good

thanks

Sam Vimes · 12-12-2007 4:36pm

Commander Vimes wrote: »

i completely forgot about that. and after specifically not making an installer before to prevent this problem. i'll do that now

done

Sam Vimes · 12-12-2007 4:42pm

Commander Vimes wrote: »

i'm putting in version numbers now

done

Cabaal · 12-12-2007 4:53pm

the cabbage zip file is nackered, might want to upload it again

Its only 85KB and is not a valid zip file

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