Michael Schumacher Suffers Serious Head Injury

ZiabR · 24-06-2014 8:06am

v10 wrote: »

Schumacher notes stolen

His family have done everything to keep this a personal matter. I honestly really hope info doesn't leak this way.

Just heard this on Today FM... Come on like, who would do that. Stolen with the intent to sell to the press. Filth.

Myrddin · 24-06-2014 10:42am

logik wrote: »

Just heard this on Today FM... Come on like, who would do that. Stolen with the intent to sell to the press. Filth.

I'd say someone was offered a LOT of money to do it. Awful stuff. I wonder do the legal threats have any real ground, what if a newspaper prints info as 'rumour' rather than fact?

mickdw · 24-06-2014 10:47am

I think the family could possibly have kept the public in the loop abit more and this would have cancelled out any issues such as this.
It is of course their right to decide how to handle his situation but I can't help feeling that they may be making life even more difficult for themselves by keeping such secrecy.

Myrddin · 24-06-2014 10:54am

mickdw wrote: »

I think the family could possibly have kept the public in the loop abit more and this would have cancelled out any issues such as this.
It is of course their right to decide how to handle his situation but I can't help feeling that they may be making life even more difficult for themselves by keeping such secrecy.

The secrecy/privacy has definitely fueled the rumour & speculation over the last few months.

Oryx · 24-06-2014 11:14am

And regardless of our revulsion at the invasion of privacy, if the news leaks, it will be discussed here. Such is the nature of things.

SnowDrifts · 24-06-2014 11:23am

mickdw wrote: »

I think the family could possibly have kept the public in the loop abit more and this would have cancelled out any issues such as this.
It is of course their right to decide how to handle his situation but I can't help feeling that they may be making life even more difficult for themselves by keeping such secrecy.

Michael always led a private life outside F1. How often would you see his children at a race or see his wife being interviewed.

They should hardly be expected to change this when they are going through such a personal trauma. Family privacy trumps the fans' "right" to know information.

Myrddin · 24-06-2014 11:31am

SnowDrifts wrote: »

Michael always led a private life outside F1. How often would you see his children at a race or see his wife being interviewed.

They should hardly be expected to change this when they are going through such a personal trauma. Family privacy trumps the fans' "right" to know information.

Fully agree, I think Mickdw was just making the point that in light of such privacy, these kinds of things have to be expected in the modern world of media/information. Whereas if official information was more forthcoming, these kinds of leeches & parasites would be hard pressed to make money out of ths misery. At least with a policy of releasing information, the family could have controlled the information we got...& no one would be interested in the taboid rags hype & speculation. Look where we are now though because of their policy, Michaels medical records have been stolen to order, & said leeches get their way.

ScumLord · 24-06-2014 2:22pm

The biggest problem with the modern media consumer is they have absolutely no patience. They want the news reported to them before it's finished happening to the people involved and demand information, any information regardless of the facts. They don't seem to appreciate it can take days, months and years to get to the facts.

losthorizon · 24-06-2014 7:34pm

SnowDrifts wrote: »

It's sickening how low these dregs of society will go to get paid. Between this and the guy dressing up as a priest in order to gain access to his hospital room a few months ago.

ryanf1 wrote: »

Thats what happens when so little information is given. I can absolutely understand the wanting to keep it private but being such a public figure thats hard to achieve

No its not imo. A criminal act has been carried out. I hope these scumbags are tracked down by the police and at least face prosecution.

The Scumacher family are under no obligation to anybody to release information.

Myrddin · 24-06-2014 8:24pm

ryanf1 wrote: »

Thats what happens when so little information is given. I can absolutely understand the wanting to keep it private but being such a public figure thats hard to achieve

losthorizon wrote: »

No its not imo.

Ah it is in fairness, how low have we seen the media stoop over the years to make money? Phone hacking, deliberate set ups/stings, the list of examples is endless. Unfortunately, news about Michael Schumachers condition is probably now considered big business & while I'm surprised at the boldness of this latest example, I'm not that shocked tbh...these people are capable of anything.

SnowDrifts · 08-07-2014 12:05pm

SCHUMACHER STOLEN MEDICAL FILES: FRENCH POLICE CLOSING IN ON THE SUSPECT

Police in France investigating the sordid tale of the theft of Michael Schumacher’s medical records believe they are close to finding the culprit.
They have managed to identify the IP address of a computer from which the records were sent and it is located in a Swiss helicopter firm, which was lined up to transport the seven times champion to Lausanne hospital from Grenoble, where he had spent six months recuperating from his ski accident last December.

In the end he was repatriated by road using a special ambulance on the 16th June. A few days after the journey the files were offered to reporters by someone using a string of online aliases, including the name Kagemusha San, according to Gazzetta dello Sport. The offer was accompanied by a couple of sample pages of the report. It originated from an IP address at the helicopter firm.

According to the BBC, the thief offered the documents for sale for £40,000, but potential buyers in the French, Swiss and German tabloid media were put off by warnings from Schumacher’s manager Sabine Kehm that they would sue anyone who published the records. Kehm and the family have guarded Schumacher’s privacy very carefully following his accident, with minimal information released and a blanket ban on any photos.

The helicopter firm in Switzerland told reporters that it had indeed received a medical report on Schumacher prior to the repatriation flight, but that it believed that patient confidentiality had been preserved and they had no knowledge of any investigation into their IT systems.

One notable and positive point is that Schumacher’s wife Corinna has felt able to be seen out in public recently, at an equestrian event in Switzerland last weekend. She attended a round of the European championships at a ranch that the Schumachers own, close to their home.

robinwing · 09-07-2014 9:49am

JULY 9, 2014
Wife says Schumacher moving forward in rehab

Corinna Schumacher has delivered an encouraging message about the progress of her injured husband.

Now out of his long coma, F1 legend Michael Schumacher was transferred from intensive care in Grenoble to a Swiss rehabilitation clinic three weeks ago.

No official updates have been provided since then, but his wife Corinna buoyed hopes this week when she appeared happy and beaming in a series of photos.

According to the Mirror, during her first public appearance in months, Mrs Schumacher "laughed and joked" as she attended a horse riding event in Switzerland.

Now, a quote has emerged in the German women's magazine Neue Post that adds to the feeling of optimism about seven time world champion Schumacher's future.

"Moving forwards," said Corinna when asked about her husband's progress. "Slowly, of course, but at least we go forward."

(GMM) ( Source GPTODAY.COM )

Gamb!t · 17-07-2014 10:22pm

A message in Sundays race programme from Mrs Corinna thanking the fans for their support.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motorsport/formulaone/michael-schumacher/10973677/Michael-Schumachers-wife-Corrina-uses-German-Grand-Prix-official-programme-to-thank-fans-for-their-support.html

v10 · 22-07-2014 2:58pm

Michael Schumacher continues to make good progress following his move to a Swiss rehabilitation centre and could return home soon, according to reports.

source: according to planet-f1

lolosaur · 22-07-2014 4:10pm

so basically, he is going to be driving a wheelchair through a straw for the rest of his life.

ScumLord · 22-07-2014 4:30pm

lolosaur wrote: »

so basically, he is going to be driving a wheelchair through a straw for the rest of his life.

At this stage it's unlikely he'll return to full health. The lack of information from the family or the man himself would lead me to believe he's had some serious brain injuries, this could range from motor control issues, speech problems to a near vegetative state.

I hope it's on the less serious end of things, he would have the willpower to train himself to overcome a lot of problems that can be overcome. I'd hate to think of the worst case scenario where the minds working but it can't communicate with the body and he's stuck in a bed.

lolosaur · 22-07-2014 4:37pm

LIGHTNING wrote: »

After your one month ban you come back and that`s your first post.

Yes?

he is clearly paralysed from the neck down and they are getting him an advanced electric wheelchair.

These are controlled via a straw to the mouth.

Mental Mickey · 22-07-2014 4:48pm

lolosaur wrote: »

Yes?

he is clearly paralysed from the neck down and they are getting him an advanced electric wheelchair.

These are controlled via a straw to the mouth.

<snip> Found it.

christy c · 22-07-2014 5:02pm

lolosaur wrote: »

You would imagine schumacher would rather be dead then be in that type scenario.

I wonder would he consider one of the suicide clinics? imagine the debate that would throw up if someone so young and high profile decided to go that way.

Why are you coming in here trying to stir **** when we are talking about someone's life? Cop yourself on

Penny Tration · 22-07-2014 5:04pm

lolosaur wrote: »

You would imagine schumacher would rather be dead then be in that type scenario.

I wonder would he consider one of the suicide clinics? imagine the debate that would throw up if someone so young and high profile decided to go that way.

I don't think many people but you have said they imagine hhe'd rather be dead. I'd have thought he'd rather be with his family.

Do you make it your mission to post the most insensitive things you think of, while trying to toe the line on the rules?

Adamocovic · 22-07-2014 5:12pm

Reports are saying that he might be moved home within a month. There they will be able to care for him. I heard he is communicating using blinking/fluttering eyelashes.

Does anyone know the estimated length of recover from situations like this? I know he won't be the same as before the crash and it is hard for us to estimate without his medical notes but in terms of being able to talk etc.

Really hope he improves, truly was one of the best drivers of all times and I remember getting up early every sunday to watch him race.

Myrddin · 22-07-2014 5:13pm

v10 wrote: »

source: according to planet-f1

From the article:

Meanwhile, the Mirror reports "it is understood that while Schumacher remains paralysed, he is able to answer questions from his wife and children Gina-Maria, 17, and son Mick, 15, by fluttering his eyes".

It adds that "doctors at the clinic in Switzerland hope to have Michael sitting upright in an advanced electronic wheelchair that he can control via his mouth within a few weeks".

My heart really goes out to the Schumacher family. How truly, soul destroyingly hard, must it be to see Michael in that condition. I've so much respect for Corinna, she literally has the eyes of the world on her, while dealing with a tragic, life changing injury to her husband, their lives & their children's lives too. She has dealt with everything to date in a manner that shows such devotion to Michael & their families privacy. It's a tragic, truly tragic way for things to have gone for them

But, he's still there, still fighting, as he always has done. I really hope his quality of life is good.

Myrddin · 22-07-2014 5:14pm

Adamocovic wrote: »

Does anyone know the estimated length of recover from situations like this? I know he won't be the same as before the crash and it is hard for us to estimate without his medical notes but in terms of being able to talk etc.

I think in these cases, things like talking etc are dealt with not as a matter of when, but if

Adamocovic · 22-07-2014 5:19pm

Myrddin wrote: »

I think in these cases, things like talking etc are dealt with not as a matter of when, but if

Just saw this article there but I don't know its credibility though.

"Injured Formula One race car driver Michael Schumacher might be able to walk and talk soon as reports claimed he is to be a recipient of a microchip brain implant that will speed up his recovery."

I really hope its true and not one of those horrible fake stories that had spread around before.

http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/559887/20140722/michael-schumacher-microchip-brain-implant.htm#.U86OnVaGsYU

greedygoblin · 22-07-2014 5:25pm

Adamocovic wrote: »

Reports are saying that he might be moved home within a month. There they will be able to care for him. I heard he is communicating using blinking/fluttering eyelashes.

Does anyone know the estimated length of recover from situations like this? I know he won't be the same as before the crash and it is hard for us to estimate without his medical notes but in terms of being able to talk etc.

Really hope he improves, truly was one of the best drivers of all times and I remember getting up early every sunday to watch him race.

Same here. Remember getting up at ungodly hours to watch the races. I don't think I missed one up until he retired.

In terms of recovery and being able to speak and regaining some mobility, we really can't tell. It very much depends on which regions of the brain sustained injury. One thing I will say though is that the brain is famed for its elasticity. If a function is lost due to trauma to one specific area, that same functionality can be "learned" by another area. It takes time though. A meaningful recovery is probably a long way off yet. Having said that, looking at where we were a little over a month ago, he appears to have made huge strides. #ForzaMichael

Larbre34 · 22-07-2014 5:28pm

Adamocovic wrote: »

Just saw this article there but I don't know its credibility though.

"Injured Formula One race car driver Michael Schumacher might be able to walk and talk soon as reports claimed he is to be a recipient of a microchip brain implant that will speed up his recovery."

I really hope its true and not one of those horrible fake stories that had spread around before.

http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/559887/20140722/michael-schumacher-microchip-brain-implant.htm#.U86OnVaGsYU

Ever heard of that treatment before? No, neither have I.

Adamocovic · 22-07-2014 5:34pm

Larbre34 wrote: »

Ever heard of that treatment before? No, neither have I.

I've heard of it before yes. It was on the news recently enough where it helped a paralysed man move his arm. That was a medical first I thought but could be wrong. I have never heard of it used for speech and walking though.

greedygoblin · 22-07-2014 5:37pm

Larbre34 wrote: »

Ever heard of that treatment before? No, neither have I.

Deep brain stimulation. It's been around for a few years now. There have been some trials with it on epileptic patients with varying degrees of success. In the case of epilepsy it works by applying electrical stimulation to affected regions to try and suppress electrical activity. I haven't read that Croatian paper but I'd imagine that applying specific frequencies helps damaged tissue to regenerate faster.

maudgone · 22-07-2014 6:11pm

Sounds like his has something like "Locked-in syndrome, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Locked-in_syndrome. Plenty of sufferers have recovered from this.

Mental Mickey · 22-07-2014 7:12pm

maudgone wrote: »

Sounds like his has something like "Locked-in syndrome, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Locked-in_syndrome. Plenty of sufferers have recovered from this.

Nobody truly knows what level of disability he has.....

greedygoblin · 22-07-2014 8:49pm

greedygoblin wrote: »

I haven't read that Croatian paper but I'd imagine that applying specific frequencies helps damaged tissue to regenerate faster.

Was just thinking about this a little bit more. What I stated in the bit quoted above is not entirely accurate (I can't be having that

). Rather than helping tissue regenerate, it is more likely the electrical impulses applied via a neural implant promote connections between neurons to be made a lot more easily. When we learn something new (a new skill or when we process new information), our neurons forge new connections with one another. So zapping specific regions via an implanted chip/electrode may enable these connections to occur much more rapidly. These type of devices have also been used for years in controlling tremors associated with Parkinsons Disease.

Ghost Train · 22-07-2014 10:00pm

Not sure I'd put much trust in "the mirror"s sources or any other newspaper reports on how he's doing. Thought the message from his wife at German GP was good though, good that family must be feeling okay about he's doing at this stage

Mike Litoris · 06-08-2014 4:39pm

WTF

http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/0806/635508-schumacher-records/

Guy suspected of stealing/leaking the medical records found dead in police cell!

losthorizon · 06-08-2014 7:30pm

Mike Litoris wrote: »

WTF

http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/0806/635508-schumacher-records/

Guy suspected of stealing/leaking the medical records found dead in police cell!

I think he committed suicide as he was found hanged and no third party is involved.

syngindub · 08-08-2014 6:51pm

losthorizon wrote: »

I think he committed suicide as he was found hanged and no third party is involved.

Get a grip, if you believe no third party was involved in that hanging you are living on cloud cuckoo land.

Mike Litoris · 08-08-2014 8:25pm

syngindub wrote: »

Get a grip, if you believe no third party was involved in that hanging you are living on cloud cuckoo land.

Woah there horsey. We's a friendly bunch around here!

I'm sure plenty think its a bit fishy, I do. It looks like LH was stating the obvious given the reports

Terrontress · 08-08-2014 8:32pm

I wouldn't think it likely that someone else has had a hand in this guy's death.

He has disgraced himself professionally, I'm not sure if he owns the company, but chances are they'll never transport a patient again. Perhaps it was money problems which led him to offer the records for sale and this was his final straw.

Unfortunately suicides in police cells are very common.

syngindub · 08-08-2014 9:09pm

Mike Litoris wrote: »

Woah there horsey. We's a friendly bunch around here!

I'm sure plenty think its a bit fishy, I do. It looks like LH was stating the obvious given the reports

I've calmed down now

08-08-2014 11:18pm

If he worked for the company then it's no skin off his nose.

Myrddin · 09-08-2014 11:11am

Deleted User wrote: »

If he worked for the company then it's no skin off his nose.

Barring being in prison, & the stigma of doing such a lowly thing that would have followed him all his life

robinwing · 29-08-2014 10:37pm

Michael Schumacher, on 29th August, 2004 -- ten years ago to the day -- raced to his seventh and last world championship triumph.He wrapped up his 7th title this day ten years ago.I wonder how many people remembered ?

mb1725 · 29-08-2014 11:31pm

robinwing wrote: »

Michael Schumacher, on 29th August, 2004 -- ten years ago to the day -- raced to his seventh and last world championship triumph.He wrapped up his 7th title this day ten years ago.I wonder how many people remembered ?

Doesn't seem like ten years.

robinwing · 03-09-2014 4:49pm

Corinna replied personally to young fan:
"I would like to thank you for your best wishes and your kind present, which help us to move forward in those difficult moments. Our Michael is a fighter and he will never give up."
Stefano Domenicali:
"He was formidable because his contribution was not limited to his exceptional talent behind the wheel.
In private, he could be very severe, even ruthless, but outside he was always the first to defend the team.
We are in contact and they tell me that there is small, continuous progress. I know that we all hope that this terrible waiting will end in the best way.
Unfortunately we just have to wait."
‪#‎ForzaMichael‬ ‪#‎KeepFightingMichael‬ ‪#‎PrayForSchumi‬ ‪#‎PrayForMiracle‬ ‪#‎GetWellSoonMichael‬

Frank Bullitt · 03-09-2014 10:05pm

For the weekend thats in it.

Probably my favourite Schumacher moment. Remember watching that race and when this happened I jumped around the room like a maniac. Its always a pleasure watching this era to me, especially Michael tearing the arse out of that car every lap, his 3rd stint in Hungry will always stand out.

Murray Walker also, god this was a great time for the F1 fan.

Enjoy.

greedygoblin · 09-09-2014 2:32pm

http://m.bbc.com/news/world-europe-29130742

Schumacher's left hospital according to the BBC!

Terrontress · 09-09-2014 4:16pm

I'd imagine he has the resources to replicate the hospital care at home so I wouldn't read too much in to it.

Frank Bullitt · 09-09-2014 5:18pm

Glad that he is now at home, and hope the recovery continues to go well.

robinwing · 09-09-2014 5:50pm

ORMER FORMULA ONE champion Michael Schumacher has left a Swiss hospital and will continue his treatment at home after a devastating ski accident in December, his family said in a statement today.
In a surprise announcement, a spokeswoman for the family of the retired German racing star said he was being moved from a top-notch hospital in the Swiss city of Lausanne to his home in nearby Gland.
“Henceforth Michael’s rehabilitation will take place at his home,” Sabine Kehm said, stressing that “considering the severe injuries he suffered, progress has been made in the past weeks and months”.
There is still, however, a long and difficult road ahead,” she cautioned, providing no further details on Schumacher’s health status.
The 45-year-old slammed his head on a rock while skiing with his son and friends in the French Alps in December.
The seven-time world champion underwent two operations to remove life-threatening blood clots after the freak accident that shocked the world, before being plunged into a medically induced coma.
He emerged from the coma in June and was transferred from a French hospital to the University Hospital of Lausanne (CHUV), renowned for it neurology experts.
“We would like extend our gratitude to the entire team at CHUV Lausanne for their thorough and competent work,” Tuesday’s statement said.
“We ask that the privacy of Michael’s family continue to be respected, and that speculations about his state of health are avoided,” it added.
Known as the “Red Baron” in reference to an ace World War I German fighter pilot, Schumacher made his debut in 1991 and dominated Formula One not long after.
A ruthless and at times controversial competitor, the German won an unprecedented 91 races, and seven world titles including five in a row with Ferrari from 2000 to 2004.
He first retired aged 37 but was unable to resist the lure of the track. In 2010, he came out of retirement but failed to re-enact his previous performances, and he quit for good in 2012.
Retirement did not dull his relish for adrenaline, however, and he kept pursuing thrill-seeking hobbies as the holder of a pilot’s licence, an accomplished motorbike rider, parachutist, skier and mountain climber.
He survived a motorbike accident in Spain in 2009, during which he suffered head and neck injuries but was released from hospital after just five hours.
- © AFP 2014

JP Liz V1 · 09-09-2014 6:14pm

Terrontress wrote: »

I'd imagine he has the resources to replicate the hospital care at home so I wouldn't read too much in to it.

I would think going home is a good sign of his recovery, wish him well anyways

Frank Bullitt · 09-09-2014 6:39pm

Cue Gary Hartstein to come in with some depressing blog.

Michael Schumacher Suffers Serious Head Injury

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