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N5 Ballaghaderreen Bypass

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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    macker16 wrote: »
    Wills have got the contract.heard from a very good source
    Hopefully they will get the M17/18 contract if its re-tendered. At least they will employ locally instead of having imported labour camps:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 320 ✭✭stevielenihan


    When will constriction start?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 82 ✭✭macker16


    end of sep


  • Registered Users Posts: 129 ✭✭mantua


    Has anyone heard anything about whens its to start and where will they start from, the charlestown side or the frenchpark side? I've heard rumours its going to take 2 1/2 years to finish pure bog they're going through?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 82 ✭✭macker16


    Nothing signed yet


  • Registered Users Posts: 129 ✭✭mantua


    Do you mean the start date hasn't been announced yet?? was it not the in or around October the start date?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 82 ✭✭macker16


    wills has come in with the lowest price but still no one picked for the contract


  • Registered Users Posts: 129 ✭✭mantua


    Did the Wills not get the job?? I was told by few lads who work for them they had got it?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,847 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    Id say wills prob be the contractor but the lowest price isnt the only factor. Would this be wills biggest job as a main contractor on there own? I cat remember to many jobs they did over 10km in lenght not being a subie or in a jv? .I dont think work will start till at least november as halcrow who are the clients rep are only putting there team together and theres no sign of a compound anywhere unless its hidden off the main road


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    roadmaster wrote: »
    Id say wills prob be the contractor but the lowest price isnt the only factor. Would this be wills biggest job as a main contractor on there own? I cat remember to many jobs they did over 10km in lenght not being a subie or in a jv? .I dont think work will start till at least november as halcrow who are the clients rep are only putting there team together and theres no sign of a compound anywhere unless its hidden off the main road

    They did the Charlestown bypass, Ennis bypass etc


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,847 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    Charlestown was a jv with siac and i think ennis was done by the turks gama?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 82 ✭✭macker16


    compound is picked


  • Registered Users Posts: 129 ✭✭mantua


    Rumour has it that diggers will be moving in mid october.. heard from a lad that works with them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 123 ✭✭black47


    mantua wrote: »
    Rumour has it that diggers will be moving in mid october.. heard from a lad that works with them.

    Any idea on a contract duration


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,144 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    black47 wrote: »
    Any idea on a contract duration
    Well N3 Belturbet bypass will have taken 2 years so maybe it'll be similar. No complex structures on this bypass.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 82 ✭✭macker16


    alot of bog to go through and mountain as well


  • Registered Users Posts: 313 ✭✭lotusm


    macker16 wrote: »
    alot of bog to go through and mountain as well
    mountain ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 129 ✭✭mantua


    Have been told 2-2 half years of work. pure bog even worse then the charlestown bypass.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 82 ✭✭macker16


    did wills get the the contract?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,037 ✭✭✭Pete_Cavan


    macker16 wrote: »
    did wills get the the contract?
    I have heard that Willis are a lot cheaper than second lowest tender, no official word yet.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 82 ✭✭macker16


    wills awarded contract for the bypass


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,144 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    macker16 wrote: »
    wills awarded contract for the bypass
    Thanks - source?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 82 ✭✭macker16


    front page of western people yesterday


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,720 ✭✭✭serfboard


    From Mid-West Radio:
    The Transport Minister Leo Varadker will travel to Ballaghadereen on Friday week next 2nd November to turn the sod on the new Ballaghadereen bypass – that’s according to Roscommon FG Deputy Frank Feighan.

    The 13.6 kilometre carriageway will commence at the N5 Charlestown bypass about 6 km north-east of Ballaghadereen in the townland of Currinah, and rejoin the existing N5 about 7.5 km east of Ballaghadereen in the townland of Rathkeery.

    Wills Brothers Ltd are contractors for the scheme, which has a total budget of €59 million.

    Deputy Frank Feighan says that, along with the infrastructural benefits the new road will bring, the investment of almost €60 million will provide many jobs during the construction phase, which is expected to take over two years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,963 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    ANOTHER scheme starts while Newlands and the M11 gap are still mired in red tape and mucking about by the contractor. The NRA should really really take a hard line with them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭M three


    With the ballaghadereen and the longford bypass both together should knock 30 mins off ballina or castlebar to dublin.
    Wills will do a good job, their HQ isnt far away, they did a good job in both the longford and cavan bypasses


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭Mr Cumulonimbus


    serfboard wrote: »
    From Mid-West Radio

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MidWest Radio
    The Transport Minister Leo Varadker will travel to Ballaghadereen on Friday week next 2nd November to turn the sod on the new Ballaghadereen bypass – that’s according to Roscommon FG Deputy Frank Feighan.

    The 13.6 kilometre carriageway will commence at the N5 Charlestown bypass about 6 km north-east of Ballaghadereen in the townland of Currinah, and rejoin the existing N5 about 7.5 km east of Ballaghadereen in the townland of Rathkeery.

    Wills Brothers Ltd are contractors for the scheme, which has a total budget of €59 million.

    Deputy Frank Feighan says that, along with the infrastructural benefits the new road will bring, the investment of almost €60 million will provide many jobs during the construction phase, which is expected to take over two years.

    Similar piece on this from the Roscommon Herald.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 82 ✭✭macker16


    Starting friday


  • Registered Users Posts: 123 ✭✭black47


    macker16 wrote: »
    Starting friday

    Enda & Ring feathering the nest by stealth. Does anyone know how much of the N5 will be left to improve by the time this stretch opens?

    Probably a bit around Strokestown I'd imagine


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,538 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    black47 wrote: »
    Enda & Ring feathering the nest by stealth. Does anyone know how much of the N5 will be left to improve by the time this stretch opens?

    Probably a bit around Strokestown I'd imagine

    Strokestown to Ballaghadereen will still be in a generally woeful state. Search for "Tulsk" on this forum (if the search works) to see why it will be difficult to upgrade this too - lots of heritage sites adjoining the road, etc.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,600 ✭✭✭veryangryman


    black47 wrote: »
    Enda & Ring feathering the nest by stealth. Does anyone know how much of the N5 will be left to improve by the time this stretch opens?
    Probably a bit around Strokestown I'd imagine
    Westport to castlebar both with no bypass. You also have frenchpark to strokestown and associated bypasses. Terrible roads there. Still they ain't too highly trafficked so with money scarce I can't see a good reason to do them before adare or cg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,802 ✭✭✭✭joujoujou
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    serfboard wrote: »
    From Mid-West Radio:
    The Transport Minister Leo Varadker will travel to Ballaghadereen on Friday week next 2nd November to turn the sod on the new Ballaghadereen bypass – that’s according to Roscommon FG Deputy Frank Feighan. [...]
    He didn't come. :eek:


  • Registered Users Posts: 313 ✭✭lotusm


    joujoujou wrote: »
    He didn't come. :eek:
    what did you expect... sure he has never passed the M50:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,802 ✭✭✭✭joujoujou
    Unregistered Users


    Did expect nothing, just informing. :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭Irish and Proud




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,802 ✭✭✭✭joujoujou
    Unregistered Users


    Funny. Didn't see him. :o

    Shame on me. :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭Irish and Proud


    joujoujou wrote: »
    Funny. Didn't see him. :o

    Shame on me. :(

    Well whether he did turn up or not, it's great to see a large new road project getting underway - 13.5km of standard single AFAIK! :)

    With the above in mind, I guess all that's needed for now is a very simple bypass of Strokestown - it's virtually only a matter of straightening out the road - sure even a short section of reduced S2 would (with roundabouts either end) would do the job until the economy picks up.

    PS. I haven't been very active on the roads front in recent times as I'm currently very busy with online chess tournaments - I've 14 games in progress ATM!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,802 ✭✭✭✭joujoujou
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    [...] all that's needed for now is a very simple bypass of Strokestown - it's virtually only a matter of straightening out the road - sure even a short section of reduced S2 would (with roundabouts either end) would do the job until the economy picks up.

    [...]
    Oh yes, it'd be very simple, 1km to do. :D

    226908.gif


  • Registered Users Posts: 313 ✭✭lotusm


    Got a brochure from the National roads design office in Roscommon outlining the route from Ballaghaderreen to strokestown . Now this is a few years old and appears to be at stage 3 at the time "Route Corridor Selection"... Not sure how relevant it is but see attached details..


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    the archeology around Tulsk makes Strokestown - Ballagh too expensive. Better go Ballagh - Boyle and join the N4 as Westtip has tirelessly said. I never seem to get caught in Strokestown so I am not concerned about a short bypass there.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    Dont forget that Tulsk could be a World Heritage site within a few years either. :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 313 ✭✭lotusm


    Sponge Bob wrote: »
    Dont forget that Tulsk could be a World Heritage site within a few years either. :)
    Roscommon Co. Co. have taken the archaeological sites in to account looking at document I attached and speaking to the road design team they did not consider the carrick option. Eventhough it would be an alternative route it roughly 24 Km from Frenchpark (google maps) to Carrick and roughly 30 KM going to Strokes town would finish it, for the sake additional 6Km it wont be break the bank. Also Why would the govt have started the Longford Bypass to the N5 if not to join it up in time unless I am missing something . ;)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    True about the route selection . The N4 justifies a 2+2 or Motorway (Carrick-Mullingar) once the N5 joins as Westtip also pointed out. The N5 alone only warrants Reduced S2. Factor that in too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,802 ✭✭✭✭joujoujou
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    Well, if we're digging so deep trying to find alternative routes, why not think about upgrading miserable N17 between Charlestown and Collooney? ;)

    The part located between Charlestown and Tubbercurry goes very close to unused from ages railroad - and that is quite straight compare to the road itself, so it'd be (IMO) worth thinking about (don't know how that railroad goes further). :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭antoobrien


    joujoujou wrote: »
    Well, if we're digging so deep trying to find alternative routes, why not think about upgrading miserable N17 between Charlestown and Collooney? ;)

    The part located between Charlestown and Tubbercurry goes very close to unused from ages railroad - and that is quite straight compare to the road itself, so it'd be (IMO) worth thinking about (don't know how that railroad goes further). :)

    There are already plans for this as part of the Atlantic Corridor:

    Tobercurry to Knock (incl. Charlestown Bypass)

    Collooney to Tobercurry Bypass

    Tobercurry Bypass


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,802 ✭✭✭✭joujoujou
    Unregistered Users


    Yeah, 2 out of 3 suspended. :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭Mr Cumulonimbus


    Pieces from the Mayo News and the Western People about the sod turning ceremony and work getting under way.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    Good God I never knew that N17 Collooney to Tobercurry Bypass was still alive and in planning. :eek:


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,144 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    Sponge Bob wrote: »
    Good God I never knew that N17 Collooney to Tobercurry Bypass was still alive and in planning. :eek:
    I just checked my own records here that I keep and that project was indeed suspended in 2011, they must have reactivated it on the qt.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    spacetweek wrote: »
    Indeed I just checked my own records here that I keep and that project was indeed suspended in 2011, they must have reactivated it on the qt.

    It is one of the slowest and most dangerous stretches between Sligo and Galway. Hopefully it will be started this decade.


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