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Man your pumps, Wetherspoons are coming

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    #1742
    hawkwind23
    Registered Users Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭hawkwind23


    January Sale

    http://www.jdwetherspoon.co.uk/static/pdfs/admin-generated/podium/january-sale-312.pdf?t=1420447654

    Prices vary dependant on location.


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    #1743
    cruasder777
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭cruasder777


    L1011 wrote: »
    Article is over a year old with no movement since


    Wonder why they never moved on their statement.


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    #1744
    L1011
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,804 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    cruasder777 wrote: »
    Wonder why they never moved on their statement.

    I suspect that they were trying to buy in at the bottom of the market, but missed it.


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    #1745
    Reputable Rog
    Registered Users Posts: 2,082 ✭✭✭Reputable Rog


    Herb Powell wrote: »
    Sweet jebus yes. Benny Bars are generally nice inside, but I just cannot justify the pint prices. And they've only been getting more expensive.



    Really? Most everyone I know seems to prefer Murphy's. I definitely think Beamish is the best of the big three though, and it's always great value for money. Doesn't get the love it deserves :D

    The pub I like to frequent in the west of City has Guinness and Beamish neck and neck with Fosters outselling Murphy's. A buddy of mine up the northside says its the same up there.


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    #1746
    Reputable Rog
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    Viewed the planning application for spoons in Douglas today.
    13 objections ranging from people nearby concerned about noise, a couple objecting to low cost alcohol, a threat to the visual amenity of the area ( the building is already there, with minimum changes to front elevation) and one concerned publican concerned about the welfare of his staff.
    Rumour has it that theyve bought The Viscount in BTown off the credit union.
    Will be interesting if this comes to pass.


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    #1747
    cruasder777
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    Reputable Rog wrote: »
    The pub I like to frequent in the west of City has Guinness and Beamish neck and neck with Fosters outselling Murphy's. A buddy of mine up the northside says its the same up there.


    Guinness 30 years ago is a totally different drink then the ice cold stuff today, so is the old bottled Guinness, which was more like brown ale.


    Guinness foreign extra stout is 7%. Very big drink in Nigeria.

    Anyone remember Guinness XXX Extra Strong Stout?

    http://www.economist.com/blogs/economist-explains/2014/03/economist-explains-13

    Intresting article

    "Worried about the impact on sales of the IRA’s terrorist campaign during the Troubles, Guinness came close in 1982 to re-launching the brand as an English beer brewed in west London"


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    #1748
    Reputable Rog
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    Guinness FES is tasty as is the new West Indies Porter.


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    #1749
    Ravelleman
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    cruasder777 wrote: »

    Intresting article

    "Worried about the impact on sales of the IRA’s terrorist campaign during the Troubles, Guinness came close in 1982 to re-launching the brand as an English beer brewed in west London"

    Of course they would.


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    #1750
    Geuze
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    Idbatterim wrote: »
    E1.95 from today in The Forty Foot!

    No mention of that anywhere online, can you confirm what products?


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    #1751
    Tayto2000
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    Whelp, look like it's business as usual after all

    Diageo/Heineken duopoly continues.


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    #1752
    drumswan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭drumswan


    Tayto2000 wrote: »
    Whelp, look like it's business as usual after all

    Diageo/Heineken duopoly continues.

    Eh? How do you figure that?


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    #1753
    oblivious
    Registered Users Posts: 4,381 ✭✭✭oblivious


    http://www.irishtimes.com/business/manufacturing/wetherspoon-deal-with-heineken-leaves-irish-consumers-to-pick-up-the-tab-1.2055777


    "Wetherspoon could have shaken the market up, forcing discounts from the brewers and, consequently, lower prices all round. Instead, it fluffed its lines by caving in. What a pity."

    mmmh more muppetry from the Times. I don't see why the Times feels that its up to JDW to get lower beer prices for all publicans. If they can negotiate on a national scale as co-op's why would a competitor do it from them.


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    #1754
    Reputable Rog
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    The Irish Times just can't make up its mind. Yesterday, cheap drink is bad, today its good.
    At least with The Indo group they pick a theme and common position and run with it except for Gene Kerrigan who seems to be there to create some sort of illusion of impartiality.


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    #1755
    anncoates
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    Reputable Rog wrote: »
    except for Gene Kerrigan who seems to be there to create some sort of illusion of impartiality.

    I'm not convinced he actually exists.

    I think they draw a short straw every week and somebody has to ghost his piece through gritted teeth.


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    #1756
    Tayto2000
    Registered Users Posts: 597 ✭✭✭Tayto2000


    oblivious wrote: »
    http://www.irishtimes.com/business/manufacturing/wetherspoon-deal-with-heineken-leaves-irish-consumers-to-pick-up-the-tab-1.2055777


    "Wetherspoon could have shaken the market up, forcing discounts from the brewers and, consequently, lower prices all round. Instead, it fluffed its lines by caving in. What a pity."

    mmmh more muppetry from the Times. I don't see why the Times feels that its up to JDW to get lower beer prices for all publicans. If they can negotiate on a national scale as co-op's why would a competitor do it from them.

    It's from the economics section, not a polemic, so different take.

    Existing publicans are not motivated to reduce prices to the consumer as there's little competition for market share. A large independent player could have introduced real competition for the first time. Shame.


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    #1757
    drumswan
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    Tayto2000 wrote: »
    Existing publicans are not motivated to reduce prices to the consumer as there's little competition for market share. A large independent player could have introduced real competition for the first time. Shame.

    They are introducing real competition, how do you figure they arent all of a sudden? Because they wont be selling Heineken?


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    #1758
    Reputable Rog
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    A nice little nugget in the Limerick Leader from VFI/FF Cllr Jerry O'Dea who has the distinction of being able to offer 'rehabilitated' lags their first opportunity to spend their gate money on overpriced hooch.
    Jerry apparently has nothing to fear from Wetherspoons as he is giving the customers what they want, unlike Wetherspoons who are only interested in gving them cheap brands.
    Kind of an ironic statement considering economy offerings like Tuborg and Fosters I imagine trade quite well in the part of town.


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    #1759
    BeerNut
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    Tayto2000 wrote: »
    A large independent player could have introduced real competition for the first time. Shame.
    Huh? How would that work? Wetherspoon came in, offered a price to Diageo for Guinness, Diageo said it's too low, and there the matter ended. What other tactic is there for a large independent player who wants to bring down the price of the big brand beers?

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    #1760
    lee_baby_simms
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    Does anyone know why JDW don't seem to have any Irish independent beers on draught?


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    #1761
    lee_baby_simms
    Registered Users Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭lee_baby_simms


    BeerNut wrote: »
    What other tactic is there for a large independent player who wants to bring down the price of the big brand beers?

    Horses head in the bed?


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    #1762
    dzilla
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    lee_baby_simms wrote: »
    Does anyone know why JDW don't seem to have any Irish independent beers on draught?

    Maybe its in the pipeline. They stock a nice bit of bottled irish craft. I wonder can irish craft brewers meet the demand they would have?


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    #1763
    lee_baby_simms
    Registered Users Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭lee_baby_simms


    dzilla wrote: »
    Maybe its in the pipeline. They stock a nice bit of bottled irish craft. I wonder can irish craft brewers meet the demand they would have?

    Surely the demand can't be that high with just two pubs?

    They have 8 degrees in bottles which is promising, for me they're producing the best beer in the country right now.


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    #1764
    Geuze
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    lee_baby_simms wrote: »
    Does anyone know why JDW don't seem to have any Irish independent beers on draught?


    That is a good question.

    I'm told Galway Hooker won't supply JD WS, so as not to upset their other customer outlets.

    But surely some Irish brewer is keen to make sales?


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    #1765
    kooga
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    lee_baby_simms wrote: »
    Does anyone know why JDW don't seem to have any Irish independent beers on draught?

    is tom creans not on draught?


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    #1766
    oblivious
    Registered Users Posts: 4,381 ✭✭✭oblivious


    Tayto2000 wrote: »
    It's from the economics section, not a polemic, so different take.

    Well then I would have though they could see that any competition in the pub sector would be good for the consumer.
    Tayto2000 wrote: »
    Existing publicans are not motivated to reduce prices to the consumer as there's little competition for market share. A large independent player could have introduced real competition for the first time. Shame.

    There are 4,500 members of VFI, thats a much lager independent group which can negotiate on behalf of it members


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    #1767
    Padraig Mor
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    Reputable Rog wrote: »
    Viewed the planning application for spoons in Douglas today.
    13 objections ranging from people nearby concerned about noise, a couple objecting to low cost alcohol, a threat to the visual amenity of the area ( the building is already there, with minimum changes to front elevation) and one concerned publican concerned about the welfare of his staff.
    Rumour has it that theyve bought The Viscount in BTown off the credit union.
    Will be interesting if this comes to pass.

    A whole host of Barrys objecting - quelle surprise! They seem to be suddenly very concerned about the impact of noise from Wetherspoons on apartments.


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    #1768
    SteM
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    kooga wrote: »
    is tom creans not on draught?

    Yup, it is in Blackrock anyway.


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    #1769
    oblivious
    Registered Users Posts: 4,381 ✭✭✭oblivious


    kooga wrote: »
    is tom creans not on draught?

    Are they independent or even brewed fully in Ireland?


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    #1770
    BeerNut
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    lee_baby_simms wrote: »
    Does anyone know why JDW don't seem to have any Irish independent beers on draught?
    Same reason they don't have Guinness: they aren't offering to pay what it costs.

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    #1771
    n97 mini
    Registered Users Posts: 8,295 ✭✭✭n97 mini


    BeerNut wrote: »
    Same reason they don't have Guinness: they aren't offering to pay what it costs.

    Or like Heineken, the brewers won't agree to supply them and let them sell it at the price they want .


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