Mass Effect 3

degrassinoel · 16-07-2012 7:53pm

yeah, i think the results will be either late tonight or tomorrow with the new patch for multiplayer

FutureGuy · 17-07-2012 2:40pm

New mp is apparently up on XBL!

Clover · 17-07-2012 6:01pm

FutureGuy wrote: »

New mp is apparently up on XBL!

Yes they are up on XBL, have them downloaded and had a quick game on each new map.

Varik · 17-07-2012 6:28pm

Got them on origin just there.

degrassinoel · 17-07-2012 6:55pm

just seen it there now myself

FutureGuy · 18-07-2012 10:35am

Ok so if you didn't know, we failed the operation at the weekend. I don't blame the community at all, I blame Bioware for giving people a very vague mission outline (no definition of extraction) and apparently ending the operation early.

Anyways, was able to purchase a few premium spectre packs and got the new N7 Slayer (vanguard)...oh the funs!!!

(Adept) N7 Fury: Throw, Annihilation Field, Dark Channel

(Soldier) N7 Destroyer: Multi-Frag Grenade, Missile Launcher, Devastator Mode, T5-V battlesuit?

(Engineer) N7 Demolisher: Homing Grenade, Arc Grenade, Supply Pylon

(Sentinel) N7 Paladin: Snap Freeze, Incinerate, Energy Drain

(Infiltrator) N7 Shadow: Tactical Cloak, Shadow Strike, Electric Slash

(Vanguard) N7 Slayer: Phase Disruptor, Biotic Charge, Biotic Slash, has a guddam sword *is Kai Leng I'm assuming*

Fury: "Fury operatives use implants to fuel biotics and their incredible
movement speed. These operatives wind an unpredictable path on the
battlefield, moving in and out of combat before returning to unleash a
sweeping biotic attack on their unsuspecting targets."

Destroyer: "The Destroyer's T5-V Battlesuit gives these strong-but-slow
soldiers mech-like protection. Driven by eezo-assisted actuators, these
frontline troopers carry heavy weapons onto the battlefield."

Demolisher: "The Demolisher uses grenades to attack at range and to
terrorize the battlefield. Demolishers can also create a supply pylon
that stocks allies with an unending reserve of grenades and thermal
reloads."

Paladin: "The Paladin carries a powerful omni-shield onto the
battlefield to block enemy fire. The Paladin also uses the shield as a
heavy-melee weapon that, when modified with incindiery or cryo upgrades,
creates a devastating combination attack."

Shadow: "Shadow infiltrators use implants to dramatically improve
agility, making them slippery combatants on the battlefield. Their
monomolecular blades are a menace from cover and close range."

Slayer: "Slayers use implants to dramatically improve mobility. Their
dizzying sword attacks can hit multiple opponents, and the Slayer's
ability to slip fire makes them hard to pin down on the battielfield."

Also, I get a VERY Avengers-like feel from these characters. My bro got the engineer and said you are basically IronMan!

noodler · 18-07-2012 10:42am

Aw, so we only get one pack for the Gold extraction then?

Thats poor. I played the MP alot over the weekend for the first time in yonks.

Looking forward to some new classes - nothing I currently have really thrills me.

Only have cash saved up for two premium spectre packs though so need to hope I get something in them.

FutureGuy · 18-07-2012 10:59am

noodler wrote: »

Aw, so we only get one pack for the Gold extraction then?

Thats poor. I played the MP alot over the weekend for the first time in yonks.

Looking forward to some new classes - nothing I currently have really thrills me.

Only have cash saved up for two premium spectre packs though so need to hope I get something in them.

My brother got 3 of the new N7 characters in 4 premium spectre packs!

noodler · 18-07-2012 11:05am

FutureGuy wrote: »

My brother got 3 of the new N7 characters in 4 premium spectre packs!

I like those odds.

Should say that theres still a number of classes from other expansions I have yet to unlock though so weakens my odds a little.

OT: I wish Geth Hunter mode didn't have that horrible screen effect - it makes you go blind after 20 minutes of play. Shame because I was loving my Geth Eng at the weekend.

Also love the Turian soldier (marks man and the delay effect of prox mine rock).

degrassinoel · 18-07-2012 11:32am

I got the N7 Destroyer last night, played the new maps on bronze with it, it's slow but feels really powerful, the auto-missiles are great, extra clipsize and multigrenades are brilliant. Havent got the others yet, but those new maps are lethal, very open.

Anyone tried platinum yet?

FutureGuy · 18-07-2012 12:41pm

Arc Pistol X

That is all.

Clover · 18-07-2012 5:53pm

Well I just downloaded and installed this on the PS3 and bought 14 psp's and got the Acolyte twice and the assault rifle omni blade, no new characters and not other new weapons :mad:

J. Marston · 18-07-2012 9:49pm

Question about Mass Effect 2, hopefully get an answer here.

I'm playing through 2 and 3 again since I downloaded the extended cut, I'm about 90% of the way through ME2 (2 loyalty missions left and then I do the mission for the IFF). But I'm wondering could I download the Arrival DLC now and would it be in my playthrough?

noodler · 18-07-2012 11:28pm

J. Marston wrote: »

Question about Mass Effect 2, hopefully get an answer here.

I'm playing through 2 and 3 again since I downloaded the extended cut, I'm about 90% of the way through ME2 (2 loyalty missions left and then I do the mission for the IFF). But I'm wondering could I download the Arrival DLC now and would it be in my playthrough?

You sure can.

I had finished ME2 before I downloaded the arrival.

When you finish the game your new game save is bascially back on the Normandy before the final mission (the point of no retuiurn which I am sure you already know about).

Arrival for me, made more sense to someone who had finished ME2.

degrassinoel · 19-07-2012 12:57am

I apparently have an official "cheating" warning on my origin account.

I got the following mail tonight,

Hello,
Your Origin account was flagged as a potential cheater. During our investigation we have evidence verifying this claim. BioWare’s cheating policy can be found here:
http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/343/index/12467716

At this time we are going to issue you your first and final warning. If you are caught further exploiting multiplayer your account will be reprimanded according to the previously mentioned policy. If you have any questions you can contact ME3AccountAdmin@BioWare.com.

Regards,

Thomas Abram

I honestly havent used any of the exploits mentioned or otherwise cheated in any way in SP or MP. I've mailed them back to appeal it. I'm curious if anyone else has gotten this type of message, it's a legitimate mail. Reading on the bioware forums, some people have been accused of cheating after using the N7 Destroyer, one of the new MP classes of soldier because it has a devastator mode which increases rate of fire and magazine size by quite a bit, making it a great class. Other than using that class which i had gotten entirely legitimately through the premium spectre packs i havent done anything to warrant my account being flagged.

Bit miffed at that tbh.

noodler · 19-07-2012 9:37am

degrassinoel wrote: »

I apparently have an official "cheating" warning on my origin account.

I got the following mail tonight,

I honestly havent used any of the exploits mentioned or otherwise cheated in any way in SP or MP. I've mailed them back to appeal it. I'm curious if anyone else has gotten this type of message, it's a legitimate mail. Reading on the bioware forums, some people have been accused of cheating after using the N7 Destroyer, one of the new MP classes of soldier because it has a devastator mode which increases rate of fire and magazine size by quite a bit, making it a great class. Other than using that class which i had gotten entirely legitimately through the premium spectre packs i havent done anything to warrant my account being flagged.

Bit miffed at that tbh.

What are the exploits?

I have obviously seen the Rocket Launcher spamming (dunno how they do it and don't want to know). I got no email but I have participated in two games where someone was doing this but stayed anyway to get the gold.

Last night, there was somebody who could cloak and use multiple powers without revealing themselves - although this could just be my misunderstanding.

That new ShadowStrike ability looks ridiculous. Was playing as a Turian sentinel (absolutely crap - I thought I remembered that class being good!!) and we kept dieing and the guy with one of the new classes kept going invisable, appearing behind enemies one by one via teleportation or whatever and then one-hittng them with the sword.

I got no new classes last night (bar the Krogan Battlemaster) but I did get Hurricane IV, a Particle Rife and Arc Pistol II (don't like).

Tried Rio which I hated and then Vancouver which I tohugh was good.

degrassinoel · 19-07-2012 10:55am

the missile thing, i've also seen people do and have no idea how it's done either, i would presume it's messing around with the ini files. I've even called it out on voice, how are you doing that? surely you only have 5 missiles? no response of course lol

That's the most common one, but apparently you can get a warning/banned just by being in a group with a person who is exploiting too.

There are mentions of others on the bioware forums, N7rank exploit, credit exploits, infinite missiles etc..

I havent used any exploit at all, the only thing i can think of is myself being a in a group with a guy who was, and my friendslist has a small group of people who are my own friends and a handful of people from boards. None of which i have played MP with recently either. I havent gotten a response back from bioware either. Bit harsh to punish people by association merely because you happen to get into a public game with someone who was cheating.

FutureGuy · 19-07-2012 11:32am

degrassinoel wrote: »

the missile thing, i've also seen people do and have no idea how it's done either, i would presume it's messing around with the ini files. I've even called it out on voice, how are you doing that? surely you only have 5 missiles? no response of course lol

That's the most common one, but apparently you can get a warning/banned just by being in a group with a person who is exploiting too.

There are mentions of others on the bioware forums, N7rank exploit, credit exploits, infinite missiles etc..

I havent used any exploit at all, the only thing i can think of is myself being a in a group with a guy who was, and my friendslist has a small group of people who are my own friends and a handful of people from boards. None of which i have played MP with recently either. I havent gotten a response back from bioware either. Bit harsh to punish people by association merely because you happen to get into a public game with someone who was cheating.

get onto twitter and talk to one of their community managers.

Varik · 19-07-2012 1:23pm

Got my new N7 Valiant III

So that Crusader III, Eagle II, and Valiant III.

noodler · 19-07-2012 1:31pm

Varik wrote: »

Got my new N7 Valiant III

So that Crusader III, Eagle II, and Valiant III.

I need to google the best weapons.

I only seem to use two of these three:

1) Striker IV
2) Geth Plasma Shotgun II
3) Hurricane IV

FutureGuy · 19-07-2012 2:37pm

Guys,
From what I hear, if you see someone rocket glitching, you should exit the game immediately. I would recoomed you report the guilty party via the xboxlive system and perhaps let the community managers of Bioware know the name of the player along with the date and time of the occurance.

If you remain in the game, you might receive a warning as you will be profiting from the actions of the person cheating.

TBH, I have been playing ME3 mp alot since release and this is the first I have heard of rocket glitching. Up until a few minutes ago, I also thought it only affected the PC version but apparently it is present in all builds of the game.

FG

noodler · 19-07-2012 2:44pm

FutureGuy wrote: »

Guys,
From what I hear, if you see someone rocket glitching, you should exit the game immediately. I would recoomed you report the guilty party via the xboxlive system and perhaps let the community managers of Bioware know the name of the player along with the date and time of the occurance.

If you remain in the game, you might receive a warning as you will be profiting from the actions of the person cheating.

TBH, I have been playing ME3 mp alot since release and this is the first I have heard of rocket glitching. Up until a few minutes ago, I also thought it only affected the PC version but apparently it is present in all builds of the game.

FG

Yup - I am PS3 and have seen it twice and have profited from it once.

Bit retarded by Bioware - just ban the bloody account in question. How on earth do they decide who is complicit, who doesn't realise and who just joined a game in its later waves?

degrassinoel · 19-07-2012 3:00pm

It seems that's why i got a warning. I was in a group with a guy who was abusing the missile glitch.
Well.. feck that for a game of soldiers, no more ME3 multiplayer for me.. was enjoying the new classes too.
Talk about swatting flies with sledgehammers, ffs

FutureGuy · 19-07-2012 3:12pm

degrassinoel wrote: »

It seems that's why i got a warning. I was in a group with a guy who was abusing the missile glitch.
Well.. feck that for a game of soldiers, no more ME3 multiplayer for me.. was enjoying the new classes too.
Talk about swatting flies with sledgehammers, ffs

Did you finish the game with him?

I would explain the circumstances and try to get it rescinded. I would also be very clear that you are considering leaving the community.

To be honest, I rarely visit the bioware forums so I didn't even know missile glitching is possible. Now I have never seen anyone doing it thus far, but if I did see someone firing loads of cobras, I might finish the game thinking that this was some newfangled power on a character I do not play as. Some of the st!t I have seen the new N7 characters do over the last 2 games would look like cheating to me had I not known better.

Also, I am not going to keep track of who is firing what in a game. What happens if a player only glitches in the final wave and shoots 11 cobras. I certainly wont be keeping track of whats going on in the middle of the extraction and I am certainly not going to consider quitting a game because I think someone might have fired 7 rockets instead of 5 during the final round.

They need to fix the glitch, ban the abusers but be very careful about banning people just because they were in the same game.

Varik · 19-07-2012 3:26pm

Considering not playing the mp any more is not likely to do anything, 360 users saying that they'll buy PS3 if their account is not unbanned comes up a lot on MS site and leads to nothing.

And it's more than likely that you're not one of the people using real money to buy packs so why would they care if you leave. If the games is broken to the degree it would drive off paying mp users then they'd have a patch out in no time.

Does anyone remember the hack for MW2 ( might not be 2) that you're console could catch when playing with a host that had it and spread when you became the host.

noodler · 19-07-2012 3:26pm

FutureGuy wrote: »

Also, I am not going to keep track of who is firing what in a game. What happens if a player only glitches in the final wave and shoots 11 cobras. I certainly wont be keeping track of whats going on in the middle of the extraction and I am certainly not going to consider quitting a game because I think someone might have fired 7 rockets instead of 5 during the final round.

They need to fix the glitch, ban the abusers but be very careful about banning people just because they were in the same game.

As I said it has happened to me twice but it was painfully obvious and immensely frustrating because you are simply a passenger in the whole thing when it happens as everything you try and kill gets one-hited before you can get a stream of shots off.

It is very noticeable though, you hear the sound every 5 seconds and the kill list on the screen had "User X kill Baddy Y with the Cobras" but there will be three or four of those messages on at a time.

degrassinoel · 19-07-2012 3:43pm

FutureGuy wrote: »

Did you finish the game with him?

I would explain the circumstances and try to get it rescinded. I would also be very clear that you are considering leaving the community.

To be honest, I rarely visit the bioware forums so I didn't even know missile glitching is possible. Now I have never seen anyone doing it thus far, but if I did see someone firing loads of cobras, I might finish the game thinking that this was some newfangled power on a character I do not play as. Some of the st!t I have seen the new N7 characters do over the last 2 games would look like cheating to me had I not known better.

Also, I am not going to keep track of who is firing what in a game. What happens if a player only glitches in the final wave and shoots 11 cobras. I certainly wont be keeping track of whats going on in the middle of the extraction and I am certainly not going to consider quitting a game because I think someone might have fired 7 rockets instead of 5 during the final round.

They need to fix the glitch, ban the abusers but be very careful about banning people just because they were in the same game.

I took your advice earlier and tweeted one of the CM's, i've also mailed the appropriate address to appeal my warning, and posted on the bioware forums. I've yet to hear anything back from any of the three.

I totally agree with you too, if someone is glitching they and they alone should be given the appropriate warning/ban.
I'm just not going to play me3mp regardless of the outcome now, i'd rather not have any other warnings associated with that origin account, be they benign or mistaken identity or as i presume it is, a dramatic overreaction by bioware group banning people in public games when one person is "cheating" or abusing a glitch that should have been fixed by bioware in the last 4 or 5 DLC patches.

I also didnt know the guy i was grouped was actually cheating for certain until i read the bioware forums last night. I wasnt counting his cobra's until he used more than 5 on the last wave. Put it down to the cap increase they were supposed to implement with medigel for one of the bonus weekends, and thought they did it with cobras or something he picked up from a spectre pack.

Yeah, it's good to see bioware being proactive on cheating but it's ridiculous to lash out the warnings to people who had just been a part of the public game that some twit was cheating in.

FutureGuy · 19-07-2012 3:53pm

noodler wrote: »

As I said it has happened to me twice but it was painfully obvious and immensely frustrating because you are simply a passenger in the whole thing when it happens as everything you try and kill gets one-hited before you can get a stream of shots off.

It is very noticeable though, you hear the sound every 5 seconds and the kill list on the screen had "User X kill Baddy Y with the Cobras" but there will be three or four of those messages on at a time.

I understand it would be noticable if someone was doing it all game, but if someone used it in the final minute of wave 11, there is no way you could quit out as you can't be entirely sure of how many were used and how many the player had in stock coming into the final round.

Anyhow, unlocked a N7 Demolisher after my final game.

Demolisher: "The Demolisher uses grenades to attack at range and to
terrorize the battlefield. Demolishers can also create a supply pylon
that stocks allies with an unending reserve of grenades and thermal
reloads."

He fires grenades and rockets from his hands. My brother has his in red and yellow gear. Mine is going to be silver and black. Wave 11, all loaded up to the gills with max clips, max rockets, max grenades and max cobras...

noodler · 19-07-2012 9:03pm

Random question about ME2 ending:

When Harbinge says "you have failed - we will find another way!........Releasing Control"

Is he talking to the Collector General? I always thought he was talking to the Humans (I dunno - via radio maybe) and meant you have failed in a you have only delayed the enevitable kind of way.

Just watched a youtube vid that suggests its the Collector General.

J. Marston · 19-07-2012 9:17pm

noodler wrote: »

Random question about ME2 ending:

When Harbinge says "you have failed - we will find another way!........Releasing Control"

Is he talking to the Collector General? I always thought he was talking to the Humans (I dunno - via radio maybe) and meant you have failed in a you have only delayed the enevitable kind of way.

Just watched a youtube vid that suggests its the Collector General.

I think he's talking to the general. The Reapers were controlling The Collectors. So when he says ''releasing control'' the Collector general is freed from Harbingers mind control, his eyes stop glowing and seems a bit confused for a few seconds before he is killed.

FutureGuy · 20-07-2012 9:28am

N7 Demolisher is pretty rediculous in fairness. Incredibly powerful, especially if you can set up your base beside an ammo crate.

You can easily have 9 homing missiles or arc grenades. Both the weapons share the same ammo so you you don't have 9 of each. However, it's really clear that, given the choice, that Arc grenades are pretty poor compared to the devestation of the homing missiles. Also, your ammo refill cards (press left on d-pad) restocks your ammo inclusing these missiles.

So am respeccing tonight to completely remove arc grenades and boost all other skills to six.

Clover · 20-07-2012 7:18pm

Saw the missile glitch for the first time yesterday when my Son was playing (PS3) and I told him to leave straight away , glad I did now after reading this.

On a good note I managed to get the N7 Fury in my 16th psp

and played a few gold games with her, great character. also got the N7 Typhoon and finished my first Platinum game.

degrassinoel · 20-07-2012 7:26pm

finally got a mail back from bioware about my warning, and they cant tell me why i got a warning lol

Hello,

Due to the nature of our investigation, we cannot reveal the exact details of our find(s). Your account has received a warning and that is the only action we will be taking at this time.

Regards,
<name removed>

Anyone know why they cant tell me the details?

Varik · 20-07-2012 7:40pm

degrassinoel wrote: »

finally got a mail back from bioware about my warning, and they cant tell me why i got a warning lol

Anyone know why they cant tell me the details?

It's the same for the account bans on console.

People who may be trying to use them or discover them can find out how they were caught and continue while now avoiding that.

ShiverinEskimo · 20-07-2012 8:16pm

Pretty sure under some data protection act you're entitled to know all the information any company holds about you. You may have to apply in writing for it though.

Not sure how it works with the borders involved but it's an EU-thing afaik.

degrassinoel · 20-07-2012 8:51pm

Varik wrote: »

It's the same for the account bans on console.

People who may be trying to use them or discover them can find out how they were caught and continue while now avoiding that.

double edged blade that one

degrassinoel · 20-07-2012 8:53pm

ShiverinEskimo wrote: »

Pretty sure under some data protection act you're entitled to know all the information any company holds about you. You may have to apply in writing for it though.

Not sure how it works with the borders involved but it's an EU-thing afaik.

yeah i've asked under the freedom of information act to release whatever details they have on my warning but i dont think it would even apply to a company based in the U.S, also pretty sure they would ask for it in writing and stick a fee onto it aswell. gits.

cython · 21-07-2012 9:50am

degrassinoel wrote: »

yeah i've asked under the freedom of information act to release whatever details they have on my warning but i dont think it would even apply to a company based in the U.S, also pretty sure they would ask for it in writing and stick a fee onto it aswell. gits.

If you are referring to the Irish FOI act, you're barking up the wrong tree completely - that's for a selection of Govt bodies, and if I was working for a private company and received such a request I would happily laugh while sending a refusal: http://foi.gov.ie/bodies-covered-by-foi/

Data Protection might have some more relevance (I honestly don't know), but under what you suggested they have no obligation to release information

degrassinoel · 21-07-2012 1:22pm

yeah i didnt think so either, was just chancing my arm. I'd still like to know the details though

noodler · 21-07-2012 5:06pm

Booted from a Silver today in the lobby after we had just won the game.

They let me play the first game when I was level 8, we managed to get through it although I had to use three rockets in the evacuation phase in order to save people who kept dieing (and ensure the full extraction).

So when we won that, and returned to the lobby, I was kicked (that win got me from level 8 to level 13).

I am starting to think they kicked me because they thought I was cheating for using three rockets in a row in the last round.

(Germans).

Gbear · 22-07-2012 11:58pm

I figured with all the free DLC and stuff available I'd have a bash off this again.

One thing. Have they ironed out some of the bugs from MP?

Do Vanguards still break the game?

degrassinoel · 23-07-2012 12:04am

still loads of glitches, and even ones that can get you warned/banned. Vanguards are still quality, though they have their equals now with some of the newer ones. afaik the vanguard charge bug is still there

Gbear · 23-07-2012 12:07am

degrassinoel wrote: »

still loads of glitches, and even ones that can get you warned/banned.

You mean the rocket ones?

Come to think of it I've still got a renegade femshep 75% through ME2.

Might finish that first.

degrassinoel · 23-07-2012 12:30am

there's a few more, but yeah the rocket ones are still there.

actually, i didnt even know about most of them until i read the bioware forums.

Wait... you didnt

kill Mordin

did ye?

Gbear · 23-07-2012 2:01am

degrassinoel wrote: »

there's a few more, but yeah the rocket ones are still there.

actually, i didnt even know about most of them until i read the bioware forums.

Wait... you didnt
kill Mordin
did ye?

Me? Not yet. Don't see how I could.

Was a bit disappointed they changed the voice actor. Killed a bit of the attachment I had with him.

I like being renegade with a bit of nuance. It's more of a 60% renegade character.

In the little tips they show in ME2 it describes "renegade" as being the ultimate "badass" - when in fact you're Satan incarnate if you always pick the renegade option.
Harsh but fair isn't really an option in the game. It's either pansy or super-nazi or a schizoid mix of the two.

mcgovern · 23-07-2012 3:11pm

I finished ME3 last night for the first time. I know there was a lot of furore over the endings, but thought that had been fixed with the latest DLC? It wasn't clear what any of the endings meant, or even which path to take to make that choice. And then in the ending itself seemed the same for every option apart from the colour "fire"?

Edit: Does the Extended Cut download automatically, or was I maybe playing on the old ending?

degrassinoel · 23-07-2012 3:19pm

mcgovern wrote: »

Edit: Does the Extended Cut download automatically, or was I maybe playing on the old ending?

You need to download that yourself, dont worry though, once it's installed you can just replay your last save and it goes from there, it's a lot more detailed and worth the time spent to download it

Gbear · 23-07-2012 4:18pm

degrassinoel wrote: »

You need to download that yourself, dont worry though, once it's installed you can just replay your last save and it goes from there, it's a lot more detailed and worth the time spent to download it

Saw this when I was reading up on the cheating in MP:
http://www.joystiq.com/2012/06/29/its-all-too-much-why-mass-effect-3s-extended-cut-ending-cant/

It's a good read.

It seems that the rocket glitches and all that don't happen on PC? That's what I'm playing on so no worries in MP for me (mass of bugs notwithstanding).

degrassinoel · 23-07-2012 4:57pm

I'm playing it on the pc aswell, that's even more bizzarre, ..the hell did i get a "cheating" warning for?

mcgovern · 23-07-2012 6:18pm

degrassinoel wrote: »

You need to download that yourself, dont worry though, once it's installed you can just replay your last save and it goes from there, it's a lot more detailed and worth the time spent to download it

Not sure if I could sit through another 20 mins of the same cutscenes with the Illusive man to be honest!

Mass Effect 3

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