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    #9032
    Mc Love
    Registered Users Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    They're not coffee's - they're hot chocolates! And they're really popular. Good old Limerick begrudgery alive and well


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    #9033
    diusmr8a504cvk
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,959 ✭✭✭diusmr8a504cvk


    Random waffle:

    Starbucks is open until 9 or 10PM most nights, mad Ted!
    Friend took me through South hill and my God I've never seen so much scaffolding and building sites in my life, some size of a regeneration project.


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    #9034
    JamesBond2010
    Registered Users Posts: 2,368 ✭✭✭JamesBond2010


    Now I remember why I hate this xmas shopping time. All the extra twats who are crap @ driving are out. The ones who can't park & don't know what the outside lane is used for also don't know how to turn off headlights.Come on the 24 Dec Lol Lol


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    #9035
    Brennans Row
    Registered Users Posts: 1,974 ✭✭✭Brennans Row


    Garryowen is coming home . . . . at least for one night. :)


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    #9036
    johnnyryan89
    Registered Users Posts: 8,724 ✭✭✭johnnyryan89


    Hopefully the ruggers fix the field this time when they're finished.


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    #9037
    adaminho
    Registered Users Posts: 2,566 ✭✭✭adaminho


    Brennans Row wrote: »
    Garryowen is coming home . . . . at least for one night. :)

    If they actually show up this time ;)


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    #9038
    Brennans Row
    Registered Users Posts: 1,974 ✭✭✭Brennans Row


    Would love to know as to why they left the Garryowen area in the first place?


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    #9039
    johnnyryan89
    Registered Users Posts: 8,724 ✭✭✭johnnyryan89


    Brennans Row wrote: »
    Would love to know as to why they left the Garryowen area in the first place?

    Too close to the common folk, Dooradoyle is more posh for them :D

    But it's to do with space. Out in Dooradoyle they've their main pitch, full size all weather, gym and two back pitches.


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    #9040
    Brennans Row
    Registered Users Posts: 1,974 ✭✭✭Brennans Row


    But in the 1950's, there was hundreds of acres of undeveloped land in the Garryowen area and Dooradoyle was mainly country side back then.


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    #9041
    Mc Love
    Registered Users Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    Brennans Row wrote: »
    But in the 1950's, there was hundreds of acres of undeveloped land in the Garryowen area and Dooradoyle was mainly country side back then.

    Yeah but it would have been much cheaper to purchase the site in Dooradoyle.


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    #9042
    Brennans Row
    Registered Users Posts: 1,974 ✭✭✭Brennans Row


    I would say farm land would have been just as cheap in the Garryowen area in the 1950's than Dooradoyle was.

    I believe St Patrick's GAA got their pitch in Reboge for 200 pounds and Claughaun GAA had no problems setting up on Childer's Road when it was finished around 1970.

    Fairview Rangers, Pike Rovers and Richmond Rugby Club developed their clubs in the Garryowen locality too.

    Once the Regional Hospital was built out there in the 1950's, did the Dooradoyle area become a magnet for private development from the 1960s onwards.

    I don't see the price of land could have been the prime motivation to sever its links with the Garryowen area.


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    #9043
    zulutango
    Registered Users Posts: 3,903 ✭✭✭zulutango


    Private car ownership skyrocketed in the 50's and this made lands on the outskirts of the city useful for all kinds of things, i.e. hospitals, shopping centres, residential developments and of course rugby clubs.

    So, it's not so much to do with the price of land, but more to do with more land becoming available and accessible in the post-war period because of the supply of cheap cars. You can look at it another way by considering whether Garryowen would have moved to Dooradoyle if its members didn't own cars, and the answer is almost certainly that they wouldn't have.


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    #9044
    Brennans Row
    Registered Users Posts: 1,974 ✭✭✭Brennans Row


    zulutango wrote: »
    You can look at it another way by considering whether Garryowen would have moved to Dooradoyle if its members didn't own cars, and the answer is almost certainly that they wouldn't have.
    Interesting point, but the majority of people living in the Garryowen area did not own a car in the 1950s. Therefore by your logic, they would have been excluded from taking part in the club at Dooradoyle.


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    #9045
    dominatinMC
    Registered Users Posts: 2,854 ✭✭✭dominatinMC


    http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/motoring/282891/free-christmas-parking-in-limerick-city-centre-axed.html

    Limerick Leader reporting that there will be no free parking in the city centre this year for Christmas. Whilst I agree that less cars in the city centre is a good thing (in the long term), this policy does not seem like it is designed to disincentive car usage in the city, but more to extort money from shoppers over Christmas. Retailers in the city must be raging, they are already finding it difficult to compete with the free-parking crescent, etc. This move will make it even harder for them to entice customers into town.


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    #9046
    apc
    Registered Users Posts: 352 ✭✭apc


    What they should be doing is allowing free parking in all designated parking spots and have the wardens enforce the law on the numpties that park outside those areas such as william street


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    #9047
    zulutango
    Registered Users Posts: 3,903 ✭✭✭zulutango


    Is there any evidence to show that the free parking actually leads to increased retail activity? It's not as if people won't come into if they have to pay for parking. There's absolutely no doubt that town will be clogged with cars this Christmas, even when people have to pay for it.

    In general, the argument that parking is restricting retail sales in Limerick is a red herring. We have the cheapest parking in the country and the most multi-storey car parks per capita than any other Irish city. Retailers tend to argue vociferously for free parking, but knowing some of them, it's more to do with providing parking outside their shop front for themselves and their staff.


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    #9048
    kilburn
    Registered Users Posts: 3,912 ✭✭✭kilburn


    Limerick people are genetically opposed to paying for parking cant figure it out myself as everyone else has to too.

    If you park illegally on william street your car should be towed and squashed by united metals.


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    #9049
    Mc Love
    Registered Users Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    zulutango wrote: »
    Is there any evidence to show that the free parking actually leads to increased retail activity? It's not as if people won't come into if they have to pay for parking. There's absolutely no doubt that town will be clogged with cars this Christmas, even when people have to pay for it.

    In general, the argument that parking is restricting retail sales in Limerick is a red herring. We have the cheapest parking in the country and the most multi-storey car parks per capita than any other Irish city. Retailers tend to argue vociferously for free parking, but knowing some of them, it's more to do with providing parking outside their shop front for themselves and their staff.
    I really doubt we have the cheapest, anne st car park and Harvey's and howleys Quay are expensive for the city.


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    #9050
    Poxyshamrock
    Registered Users Posts: 4,826 ✭✭✭Poxyshamrock


    kilburn wrote: »
    Limerick people are genetically opposed to paying for parking cant figure it out myself as everyone else has to too.

    If you park illegally on william street your car should be towed and squashed by united metals.

    "You have thirty minutes to move your car. You have ten minutes. Your car has been impounded. Your car has been crushed into a cube. You have thirty minutes to move your cube."


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    #9051
    YFlyer
    Registered Users Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    I was getting the bus from Limerick to Shannon Airport yesterday morning. Just beyond Ivans the bus driver said 'Jesus Christ no.' There was that guy with the grey hair and umbrella that jumps on the UL bus to chat to the drivers.

    He hopped on and sat down quietly. Ten minutes later he headed up to the driver and started to talk about all the other drivers. I was trying to keep in the laughter :D


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    #9052
    Vladimir Poontang
    Closed Accounts Posts: 657 ✭✭✭Vladimir Poontang


    YFlyer wrote: »
    I was getting the bus from Limerick to Shannon Airport yesterday morning. Just beyond Ivans the bus driver said 'Jesus Christ no.' There was that guy with the grey hair and umbrella that jumps on the UL bus to chat to the drivers.

    He hopped on and sat down quietly. Ten minutes later he headed up to the driver and started to talk about all the other drivers. I was trying to keep in the laughter :D

    My favourite story about that guy is seeing him jump into the middle of a Thriller flashmob in town one day and started giving it loads :D


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    #9053
    riverrocked
    Closed Accounts Posts: 165 ✭✭riverrocked


    Mc Love wrote: »
    I really doubt we have the cheapest, anne st car park and Harvey's and howleys Quay are expensive for the city.

    I spend a lot of time in Cork and Dublin (I can't speak for Galway) but we do have the cheapest parking than either of those cities. Let's take like for like - Arthur's Quay parking is €2 per hour while in Cork Merchant Quay is €2:40 per hour and Jervis in Dublin is €3 per hour.

    On Street parking in Limerick is €1 per hour and runs from Monday – Saturday (except Bank Holidays) 9.30 am - 5.30 pm in the main city but just outside of that it is also free on Saturdays.
    While Cork on street is €2 an hour and runs from 8.30am – 6.30pm, Monday – Saturday.
    In Dublin it is a bit more complicated but the main city centre is €2.90 an hour from 7am-7pm Monday to Saturday and 2pm-6pm on Sunday.


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    #9054
    YFlyer
    Registered Users Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    Vladimir Poontang wrote: »
    My favourite story about that guy is seeing him jump into the middle of a Thriller flashmob in town one day and started giving it loads :D

    Haha that's why he brings around the Umbrella. Can see him performing Billie Jean walking up William Street.


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    #9055
    jonski
    Registered Users Posts: 6,389 ✭✭✭jonski


    riverrocked wrote:
    (I can't speak for Galway) .

    Well I can , I parked in a car park in Galway town center for an hour and when I went to pay for it I thought I was after renting a hanger for a 747 .... €4!


    My wife says I have a tendency to over exaggerate :D


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    Vladimir Poontang
    Closed Accounts Posts: 657 ✭✭✭Vladimir Poontang


    YFlyer wrote: »
    Haha that's why he brings around the Umbrella. Can see him performing Billie Jean walking up William Street.

    It was so funny to see him in the middle of all the kids standing next to a wolf dancing like Michael Jackson :D


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    #9057
    sioda
    Registered Users Posts: 4,453 ✭✭✭sioda


    With galway q park eyre Square booked on advance is always cheap as is parking on the top floor of the same car park


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    #9058
    Mc Love
    Registered Users Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    YFlyer wrote: »
    I was getting the bus from Limerick to Shannon Airport yesterday morning. Just beyond Ivans the bus driver said 'Jesus Christ no.' There was that guy with the grey hair and umbrella that jumps on the UL bus to chat to the drivers.

    He hopped on and sat down quietly. Ten minutes later he headed up to the driver and started to talk about all the other drivers. I was trying to keep in the laughter :D
    Vladimir Poontang wrote: »
    My favourite story about that guy is seeing him jump into the middle of a Thriller flashmob in town one day and started giving it loads :D

    Think his name is Gerry - he does get awful abuse from skobes though. He must hold the record for most bus journeys in one day!


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    #9059
    brighterdays
    Closed Accounts Posts: 75 ✭✭brighterdays


    zulutango wrote: »
    In general, the argument that parking is restricting retail sales in Limerick is a red herring. We have the cheapest parking in the country and the most multi-storey car parks per capita than any other Irish city. Retailers tend to argue vociferously for free parking, but knowing some of them, it's more to do with providing parking outside their shop front for themselves and their staff.

    Yeah, the issue is that there's nothing to come in and pay parking for if you drive. Limerick is a shocking city when it comes to shopping, unfortunately. Penneys? The Crescent. Tesco? Loads. Same with any other food shop. Limerick ONE has Argos and clothing stores and Smyths and The Range. Ballysimon has every DIY imaginable. Parkway, two euro store if you need some stupid nicknack and don't want to go to Dealz. Castletroy has cinema, Supervalu, Starbucks, Bella Italia, McDonalds... I'm hoping the Opera Centre will have unique shops/restaraunts like M&S, 5 Guys, Nandos etc. Things people would actually drive in for. This is what's missing in the city centre right now.

    Free parking will help footfall, for sure, but it's not the answer to the problem by any means. The only thing that the city actually has is clubs. The day a club dares to open (and is a success) outside the market quarter, the place is done :p:p:D


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    #9060
    zulutango
    Registered Users Posts: 3,903 ✭✭✭zulutango


    brighterdays wrote:
    Yeah, the issue is that there's nothing to come in and pay parking for if you drive.

    Why are the retailers depending on people to come in to the city from outside? Why aren't their businesses viable due to the people actually living in the city?


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    #9061
    brighterdays
    Closed Accounts Posts: 75 ✭✭brighterdays


    zulutango wrote: »
    Why are the retailers depending on people to come in to the city from outside? Why aren't their businesses viable due to the people actually living in the city?

    Well not enough people live in the city itself (and I mean passed the bridges, within the city centre). Once you're over the bridges people make a fuss to cross them (as if it's the size of London). So most stick to their area, or if they have to drive, I'd imagine they'd pick the Crescent or somewhere similar 9/10 times. Because again - what does the city centre have that other areas don't? One example is the market, which is why it's always so jammers. Now imagine that but on a constant basis, because it's stores people are invested in visiting? It's getting slightly better, don't get me wrong, but it doesn't have a major draw like a Jervis. It needs a killer draw like a M&S. Something totally new and unique to it. I swear if the Opera Centre opens and it's home to a Dealz, I'll scream.

    Limerick is a donut and most people live outside it's centre, so having a 'draw' to that centre is vital. Most cities have suburbs that are developed and have sufficient shopping hubs that keep people away from the centre and while I think it's great Limerick succeeded at that (a bit too well), it's also terrible to think the city centre has very little that's special in terms of shopping. Or that it is passed up for other locations by businesses. Our own centre - second rate to businesses!

    OR that the locations in the city centre are kept terribly in comparison to stores in other areas. Dunnes Stores Childers Rd (while much bigger) is beautiful compared to Harvery's Quay. They have a cafe, a lovely new bakery, self-service tills, beautiful ready meals and much more amenities. Harvey Quay is a glorified parking lot in comparison. Penneys in town is like a time warp compared to the Crescent. The fact they renovated the Crescent over the one in town speaks volumes. Debenhams - not that there's another in Limerick but compared to other cities I've been too - awful and aged. Eason's - aged and again compared to the Crescent.


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