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The Hazards of Belief

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  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Kate Echoing Tether


    link wont work for me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    I once went out with someone who did reiki on a pigeon.

    I know.

    I once dated a homeopath. Does that make me a homeosexual?


  • Moderators Posts: 51,847 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    Gbear wrote: »
    Spotted this link from LiveLeak.

    <mod snip>

    *****
    The video is EXTREMELY GRAPHIC. Absolutely NSFW and I would not recommend it to be seen by children.
    *****

    A deeply troubling video.

    A very upsetting/disturbing video. The men that carried out the acts contained in the video don't seem to view women as human. A right thinking person couldn't carry out those acts on an animal, never mind a human being :(

    If you can read this, you're too close!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,775 ✭✭✭✭Gbear


    bluewolf wrote: »
    link wont work for me

    In case you didn't see the edit I fixed the link.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    EDIT

    I'm not comfortable with a video that graphic being disseminated from here.
    Disagree at will, or appeal to higher powers but so be it.

    Link snipped. Suffice to say there's horror in this world, and some of it is justified by the interpretations of religion.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,420 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Wrong thread?
    :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,775 ✭✭✭✭Gbear


    Dades wrote: »
    EDIT

    I'm not comfortable with a video that graphic being disseminated from here.
    Disagree at will, or appeal to higher powers but so be it.

    Link snipped. Suffice to say there's horror in this world, and some of it is justified by the interpretations of religion.

    Fair enough. I was a bit reluctant to post it in the first place and made bloody well sure it was tagged as graphic.

    It's tough but I think sometimes those kinds of things are necessary to really hammer the point home.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,753 ✭✭✭fitz0


    Gbear could you pm me the link?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,775 ✭✭✭✭Gbear


    I use the news feed from Dawkins' website alot. Some people seem to have a problem with him but regardless there's good stuff to be had there.

    Here's another good read about the difficulty in being an atheist in America.

    We really have no idea in Ireland or really anywhere in Europe, other than in some extreme cases, about how bad religious intolerance can be just because you happen to have an affinity for logic and reason.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 238 ✭✭dmw07


    Jernal wrote: »
    I don't think I've read anything more depressing or toxic all day.
    :(

    Cheer up. "If you torture the data long enough, it will confess" (Ronald Coase)


  • Registered Users Posts: 445 ✭✭muppeteer


    This story has resurfaced again, with a life sentence instead of death for aggravated homosexuality. Progress of a sort I guess:rolleyes:.

    The highlighted last line really stands out in this piece though.
    A BBC correspondent says MPs laughed, clapped and cried out: "Our bill, our bill," when its architect David Bahati reintroduced the draft legislation on Tuesday.

    The Anti-Homosexuality Bill was shelved in 2011 after an international outcry.

    It still increases the punishment to life in prison for homosexual offences.

    Homosexual acts are already illegal in Uganda - a largely conservative society, where many condemn homosexuality.

    Anyone failing to report to the authorities a person they knew to be homosexual would also be liable to prosecution.

    The BBC's Joshua Mmali in the capital, Kampala, says Mr Bahati, the primary backer of the bill, has confirmed the draft legislation has changed in one fundamental way.

    Those found guilty of "aggravated homosexuality" - defined as when one of the participants is a minor, HIV-positive, disabled or a "serial offender" - would no longer face the death penalty, as originally proposed.

    A parliamentary committee recommended the revision, after the original legislation was condemned by Western leaders, including Barack Obama who described it as "odious", and threatened to cut off aid to Uganda.

    Mr Bahati hopes his private member's bill will finally be debated during this parliamentary session, which opened on Tuesday.

    The MP leads the ruling party caucus in parliament, so the proposed legislation would never have been tabled without the government's backing, our reporter says.

    The bill was first introduced in 2009, but has never made it to a debate in the chamber.




    In recent years, some gay rights groups have been set up in Uganda.

    In January 2011, gay rights activist David Kato was killed in what some said was a hate crime - the police said it was linked to a robbery.

    At his funeral, the priest condemned gay people.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-16928608


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    Today the two main experiments at the Large Hadron Collider (LHC), the world’s most powerful particle accelerator, submitted the results of their latest analyses. The new papers boost the case for December’s announcement of a possible Higgs signal, but let’s not get too excited.

    First, there’s no new data in there—the LHC stopped colliding protons back in November, and these latest results are just rehashes that earlier run. In the case of the Compact Muon Solenoid (CMS), physicists have been able to look at another possible kind of Higgs decay, and that allows them to boost their Higgs signal from 2.5σ to 3.1σ. Taken together with data from the other detector, ATLAS, Higgs overall signal now unofficially stands at about 4.3σ. In other words, if statistics are to be believed, then this signal has about a 99.996 percent chance of being right.

    Source.

    .


  • Moderators Posts: 51,847 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    Author: Blacks too smart for atheism
    The author of a new book that shows how America is buying into Adolf Hitler’s belief system regarding those who are “not human,” says the black community is much too smart to be hoodwinked by a campaign promoted by atheists during February’s Black History Month.

    “Atheistic evolution isn’t an intelligent belief, as atheists would have the black community believe,” said Ray Comfort, whose new project is “Hitler, God, and the Bible.”

    “It’s a philosophy for the dumbest of the dumb, and it’s an insult to the black heritage to try and hoodwink them into believing that nothing created everything,” he said.

    “That’s a scientific impossibility, and African Americans have got too much intelligence to believe such an insane worldview. That’s why there are so few black atheists. Most atheists are white, educated, and greatly lacking when it comes to common sense,” he said.

    His comments came amid confirmation from American atheists that they have begun a national advertising campaign to target America’s black community.

    Debbie Goddard, director of African Americans for Humanism, told The Christian Post this week, “A lot of people think that if someone’s black it means that they’re religious. So we want to be able to show people that that’s not true, that there are non-religious people out there.”

    Comfort said the warning signs are explained in his book, which outlines the atrocities of Hitler and how the dictator’s worldview allowed him to destroy millions of lives because they weren’t really “human.”

    He notes that that is the same attitude that the American abortion industry has adopted. Its leaders say the unborn, the estimated 50 million plus who have died in America’s abortion clinics, aren’t really human, either.

    “The black community should be made aware that atheism is a slippery slope into abortion, and that will further decimate the African American population. Remove God from any society and it will naturally embrace the godless worldview of Darwinian evolution,” he said.

    Comfort, who also works with actor Kirk Cameron on a popular TV series called “The Way of the Master,” produced the sensational 30-minute documentary “180″ as part of his work on the book.

    In the documentary, he takes his video camera to the streets and asks what people knew about the infamous German tyrant and mass murderer. He returned shocked – with footage of 14 people (mainly university students) who didn’t have a clue as to who Hitler was. When he posted the movie on the Internet, it received 2.1 million views in just over three months. Since then, hundreds of thousands of copies have been both sold and given away.

    He said most who believe in evolution have no idea that the Nazi Holocaust had its roots in Darwin’s concept of “survival of the fittest.”

    “In recent years biologists have deliberately distanced themselves from that phrase and instead used ‘natural selection,’ because ‘survival of the fittest’ is easily linked to Hitler’s killing of the weak and letting the strongest survive. Atheism almost always embraces Darwinian evolution, which would have people believe that they are merely animals, and that there are no moral absolutes. I have been going to universities and challenging students to convince me that evolution has a scientific basis. No-one can offer any proof, because Darwin’s evolution is scientifically baseless. All they have are theories that have to be received in blind faith,” he said.

    He also noted that the American abortion industry for years already has been targeting the black community.

    In fact, The National Black Catholic Congress has weighed in on the issue, challenging its members to choose the cause of death most costly to the black community, since 1973.

    “Think about it for a minute. Is it heart disease – 2,266,789 deaths since 1973, cancer – 1,638,350, or accidents – 370,723? It is AIDS – 203,695, or violent crimes – 306,313? There is one possibility that is often overlooked. It happens 1,452 times a day in our community. It has taken over 13 million black lives within the last 30 years. It has taken 1/3 of our present population. What is it? ABORTION!”

    The group continued, “The CDC reports that of the approximately 4,000 abortions that are performed daily in the United States, 1,452 of them are performed on African American women and their pre-born children. This means that although African Americans represent only 12 percent of the population in the United States, they account for 35 percent of the abortions,” the report said.

    Source

    If you can read this, you're too close!



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    That poor guy, I didn't think humans could get such a strong dose of the galloping crazies and survive long enough to write a book.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,420 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Sarky wrote: »
    That poor guy, I didn't think humans could get such a strong dose of the galloping crazies and survive long enough to write a book.
    Galloping crazies?

    Nah, Ray Comfort is bananas.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    And of course, if I make the obvious assertion that black people in America are on the whole less educated and less "intelligent" than white people, I am the one who would be considered racist. But it's not racist to claim that black people are smarter than white people.

    Of course, black people in America are less "intelligent"* due to socio-economic factors, not due to biology or the colour of their skin. Since every study has indicated that there's a direct correlation between atheism and intelligence, then it seems logical that less black Americans are atheist since more black Americans are poor and less educated.

    *I use the word "intelligent" in the sense of purely academic and social achievement, not the literal meaning of one's ability to apply learned knowledge to the real world


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,537 ✭✭✭joseph brand


    koth wrote: »
    Author: Blacks too smart for atheism

    From reading that article I assumed Ray Comfort was Afro American himself. Turns out he's a Jewish-turned Evangelical 'Bat Sh1t Crazy' Christian, who looks like a 70's porn star.

    What a shyster!
    Ray Comfort: That’s why there are so few black atheists. Most atheists are white, educated,

    Thanks Ray.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,775 ✭✭✭✭Gbear


    koth wrote: »
    Author: Blacks too smart for atheism


    And here's a cheerful counterpoint.

    I think that the black community in particular, not just in the US but in the UK aswell suffer by and large from a lack of education as a product of poverty. It seems to lead to a disproportionate amount of woolly thinking.

    We need more movements like in the above link.

    Edit: Oh and an article written by Lawrence Krauss in the guardian.

    The comments are so typically ignorant that I fear for the future of humanity.


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  • Moderators Posts: 51,847 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    :eek::eek:

    zEbaB.png

    If you can read this, you're too close!



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    Every day I become more glad that I got the hell out of Facebook.


  • Registered Users Posts: 238 ✭✭dmw07


    ^^^^^^^^^^

    :eek::eek::eek:
    That person needs to be advised...





    Facebook is full of trolls. :D:p


  • Registered Users Posts: 238 ✭✭dmw07


    Sarky wrote: »
    Every day I become more glad that I got the hell out of Facebook.

    You can never leave facebook my friend. They actually have more rights to you than the church.

    Funny thing is, people actually sign the agreements.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    Well, before I left I did change all my personal details to a load of bollocks I thought was amusing. They are more than welcome to the personal details of Professor/Emperor Sarky, Qualified Breast Inspector with a keen interest in pocket lint and Nazi/Gears Of War slashfic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,736 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    Sarky wrote: »
    Well, before I left I did change all my personal details to a load of bollocks I thought was amusing. They are more than welcome to the personal details of Professor/Emperor Sarky, Qualified Breast Inspector with a keen interest in pocket lint and Nazi/Gears Of War slashfic.
    LOL, as far as Facebook knows I'm 85 and live in a mental institution.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    Huh, maybe people like us are the reason advertising is so bloody stupid these days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,736 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    Sarky wrote: »
    Huh, maybe people like us are the reason advertising is so bloody stupid these days.
    Interesting idea. I think I'll take it as a challenge to get even weirder.


  • Registered Users Posts: 238 ✭✭dmw07


    Sarky wrote: »
    Huh, maybe people like us are the reason advertising is so bloody stupid these days.

    I think you'll find that marketing directors thinking they could get free research information by paying social networking sites for data, is the problem.

    2+2=5 thinking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,213 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    kylith wrote: »
    LOL, as far as Facebook knows I'm 85 and live in a mental institution.


    Sshh... nobody tell kylith that he's 85 and lives in a mental institution. He'll just try to escape again


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,420 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,879 ✭✭✭Coriolanus


    robindch wrote: »
    PRobably my favorite part of Oh God No was the part about the ex Hasids.


  • Registered Users Posts: 238 ✭✭dmw07




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,736 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    In fairness no-one's banned prayers, they've just been taken off the agenda. Anyone who wants to get some praying done can go in early and do it before the meeting starts.

    All that nonsense about their queen's jubilee is just obfusticating the issue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,213 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Why do they even need to pray for a council meeting anyway?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    dmw07 wrote: »

    "Communities Secretary Eric Pickles described the ruling as ‘very illiberal’.
    He said: ‘The ruling is surprising and disappointing. Christianity plays an important part in the culture, heritage and fabric of our nation.’
    He vowed to override the High Court ruling by bringing in the Government’s Localism Act, which would give councils the power to hold prayers at the start of meetings, as early as next Friday"
    .

    Watch this space, it may be just a knee jerk reaction but the guy is cabinet minister.... that story could run and run...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,753 ✭✭✭fitz0


    Penn wrote: »
    Why do they even need to pray for a council meeting anyway?
    They're civil servants. It would take divine intervention to get them to do work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/feb/10/interpol-journalist-arrested-muhammad-tweet
    Interpol has been accused of abusing its powers after Saudi Arabia used the organisation's red notice system to get a journalist arrested in Malaysia for insulting the Prophet Muhammad.

    Police in Kuala Lumpur said Hamza Kashgari, 23, was detained at the airport "following a request made to us by Interpol" the international police cooperation agency, on behalf of the Saudi authorities.

    What was it then that caused the Saudis to issue an international arrest order?
    It was this message:
    "I have loved things about you and I have hated things about you and there is a lot I don't understand about you … I will not pray for you."

    More than 13,000 people joined a Facebook page titled "The Saudi People Demand the Execution of Hamza Kashgari".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    It's stuff like that which makes me grateful that I was born in Ireland. Sure it's not perfect but it's not psychotically scary either!


  • Registered Users Posts: 445 ✭✭muppeteer


    http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gpQRnwpootZot3dABRpS168QzLbg?docId=CNG.b7b84d73ae0e2b3179e9deb594bd393e.481
    MALE — At the Maldives' National Museum, smashed Buddhist statues are testament to the rise of Islamic extremism and Taliban-style intolerance in a country famous as a laid-back holiday destination.

    On Tuesday, as protesters backed by mutinous police toppled president Mohamed Nasheed, a handful of men stormed the Chinese-built museum and destroyed its display of priceless artefacts from the nation's pre-Islamic era.

    "They have effectively erased all evidence of our Buddhist past," a senior museum official told AFP at the now shuttered building in the capital Male, asking not to be named out of fear for his own safety.

    "We lost all our 12th century statues. They were made of coral stone and limestone. They are very brittle and there is no way we can restore them," he explained.

    "I wept when I heard that the entire display had gone. We are good Muslims and we treated these statues only as part of our heritage. It is not against Islam to display these exhibits," he said.

    Five people have since been arrested after they returned the following day to smash the CCTV cameras, he said.

    The authorities have banned photography of the damage, conscious that vandalism of this kind which echoes the 2001 destruction of the Bamiyan Buddha statues in Afghanistan by the Taliban is damaging for the nation's image.

    The gates of the two-storeyed grey building, which opened in 2010, are padlocked and an unarmed guard keeps watch.

    The Maldives, a collection of more than 1,100 coral-fringed islands surrounded by turquoise seas, is known as a "paradise" holiday destination that draws hundreds of thousands of travellers and honeymooners each year.

    Visitors' contact with the local population is deliberately kept at bay, however, with most foreigners simply transferring from the main international airport directly to their five-star resorts on outlying islands.

    Few have any idea they are visiting a country of 330,000 Muslims with no religious freedom, where women can be flogged for extramarital sex and consuming alcohol is illegal for locals.

    Islam is the official religion of the Maldives and open practice of any other religion is forbidden and liable to prosecution.

    The religious origins of the Maldivian people are not clearly established, but it is believed that a Buddhist king converted to Islam in the 12th century.

    Thereafter, the country practised a mostly liberal form of the religion, but more fundamentalist interpretations have spread with the arrival of money and ultra-conservative Salafist preachers from the Middle East.

    In 2007, following a bombing that wounded a dozen foreign tourists, the former president Maumoon Abdul Gayoom banned head-to-toe coverings for women as a sign of his intent to battle conservative Islamic thinking.

    At the museum, another official said that fundamentalists had threatened to attack the museum on previous occasions unless it withdrew the Buddhist display.

    The country's ultra-conservative Islamic group, the Adhaalath Party, condemned the attack, but said they remained opposed to Nasheed's decision to accept three monuments from India, Pakistan and Sri Lanka.

    "Our constitution does not allow idols and that is why we objected to the monuments," General Secretary Mohamed Muizzu said, referring to the gifts to mark a South Asian summit held in November in the Maldives.

    The monuments, which included one of pillar featuring Buddhist motifs, and which had been on display in the southernmost island of Addu, have all since been vandalised.

    The Adhaalath party supports new president Mohamed Waheed, who Nasheed accuses of taking part in a coup, and is due to join the new government.

    Waheed called the museum attack "totally unacceptable" and denied there was religious violence in his country.

    Former foreign minister Ahmed Naseem disagreed.

    He said extremists were thriving in the Maldives and that they were partly responsible for the toppling of Nasheed and the installation of Waheed. "What we had was a military coup backed by religious extremists," he said.

    "There is a strong influence of Islamic fundamentalists in the country and they will get stronger," Naseem told AFP. "These groups are funded from abroad. "This threat is not only to us, but the rest of the world as well."

    The moderate Nasheed, who was educated in Sri Lanka and Britain, was consistently accused of being under the control of Jews and Christians by religious opposition parties now linked to the government

    There were also demonstrations over proposals from the transport ministry to allow direct flights from Israel.

    "We strongly condemn the anti-Semitic words and the other commentary recently," US assistant secretary of state for South Asian affairs Robert Blake said during a visit to Male on Saturday.

    "Under President Nasheed, the Maldives tried to improve relations with Israel and showed what a progressive country they were and we really commend them for that."


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 426 ✭✭Kepti


    Sarky wrote: »
    Well, before I left I did change all my personal details to a load of bollocks I thought was amusing. They are more than welcome to the personal details of Professor/Emperor Sarky, Qualified Breast Inspector with a keen interest in pocket lint and Nazi/Gears Of War slashfic.

    They store pictures that were deleted by users years ago (source). I wouldn't be surprised to learn that they still had your original information.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    Civil Servants / Economy discussion has been moved here. :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 445 ✭✭muppeteer


    http://www.theatlanticwire.com/global/2012/02/malaysia-celebrates-valentines-day-arresting-unmarried-couples/48659/
    Morality police in Malaysia kicked off Valentine's Day by raiding cheap hotel rooms to arrest more than 80 young Muslims trying to "celebrate" the holiday. The unmarried couples were charged with "close proximity," which is basically being alone with a member of the opposite sex, a crime that is punishable by jail terms of up to two years. Islamic religious officials have been conducting an anti-Valentine's Day campaign that dates back to 2005, based on the idea that the holiday is a "trap" that is "synonymous with vice" and leads to other immoral activities. The raids took place almost immediately after midnight on Tuesday and focused on budget hotels and public parks, suggesting that the "couples" may not have been together that long, making them easy targets for morality warriors.


  • Registered Users Posts: 445 ✭✭muppeteer


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-17032567
    Colombia priests 'hired own killers' in suicide pact

    Two Colombian priests who were found shot dead in the capital Bogota a year ago themselves hired the assassins who killed them, prosecutors say.

    They said the priests had agreed a suicide pact after one of them was diagnosed with Aids, but contracted hitmen because they could not bring themselves to carry it out.

    Relatives of the dead priests insist they were victims of an armed robbery.

    They have denied reports that they were involved in a gay relationship.

    Two of the alleged killers are being prosecuted after being traced from calls made from the priests' phones.
    'Pray for me'

    Father Richard Piffano, 37, and Father Rafael Reatiga, 35, were found shot dead in a car in southern Bogota in January 2011.

    Prosecutors allege they paid the suspected hitmen around $8,500 (£5,440) to kill them and make it look like a robbery attempt.

    The two priests had been friends since their training and often celebrated Mass and other religious services together, Colombia's El Tiempo newspaper reported.

    In his final church service, Father Reatiga asked parishioners to pray to Santa Marta, the patron saint of lost causes, the paper reported, while Father Piffano asked his to "pray for me".

    Suicide - like homosexual acts - is forbidden in the Catholic Church.

    Speechless


  • Registered Users Posts: 238 ✭✭dmw07


    muppeteer wrote: »
    Speechless

    Read this on the metro this morning and immediately thought of this thread!

    Their dogma, created this deranged arrangement.

    They most likely died thinking they were dirty sinners. It's probably what led their minds so far, to inflict this cruel death upon themselves, truly horrifying way to die.

    Executing yourself, to absolve yourself of imaginary sin.

    god bless feeble minds.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,167 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    Mormons apologise for baptising Simon Wiesenthal's parents

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/feb/15/mormons-apologise-baptise-simon-wiesenthal


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,420 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Mormons apologise for baptising Simon Wiesenthal's parents
    They didn't apologize for baptizing George Carlin:

    http://famousdeadmormons.com/index.php?id=206


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    Pastor accidentally shoots daughter while selling gun to faithful:
    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501363_162-57376314/pastors-daughter-accidentally-shot-at-fla-church/

    Saw that in the Indo yesterday. The mind boggles how people who own guns can be so ignorant of how they actually work. Apparently the poor girl is in critical condition.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Galvasean wrote: »
    The mind boggles how people who own guns can be so ignorant of how they actually work.
    The same way I suppose that so many people are ignorant of how a car (for example) actually works - if you put something on general sale with few or no conditions, then people will remain ignorant to how it works. That's the danger of poor or little gun control.

    Apparently this is a very common injury in the U.S. with modern pistols where people pop out the magazine and then pull the trigger, assuming it's empty.

    I think the most perplexing part is why a man of the cloth would need a licence to carry a concealed weapon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,213 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    robindch wrote: »
    They didn't apologize for baptizing George Carlin:

    http://famousdeadmormons.com/index.php?id=206

    THEY BAPTISED CARLIN?!

    F*CK THEM ALL INTO THE GROUND!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    Galvasean wrote: »
    Pastor accidentally shoots daughter while selling gun to faithful:
    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501363_162-57376314/pastors-daughter-accidentally-shot-at-fla-church/

    Saw that in the Indo yesterday. The mind boggles how people who own guns can be so ignorant of how they actually work. Apparently the poor girl is in critical condition.

    Pity he didn't shoot himself in the head instead; then he could have got a Darwin Award.


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