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Victory for electoral fraud

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  • #152
    Egginacup
    Site Banned Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭Egginacup


    mcmoustache wrote: »
    You just had to, didn't you.

    Of course I had to. I love when hypocrites are exposed and I'll use any example to shed light thereon. But I'm not bandstanding or grandstanding here. This is a day for gay people and long may their happiness continue. I've been called many things politically....and usually by bigots. My political views aren't about right and left as so many of these hypocrites assert. They are about right and wrong.
    The OP tried to besmirch this referendum result by claiming that voter fraud occurred and therefore the whole thing is questionable. Well I'm not having that.


  • #153
    stefanovich
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    Cold War Kid wrote: »
    How could you possibly have been breaking the law if you went to the polling station, presented yourself and your I.D./document, your name was crossed off the list and you were handed your balloting papers?
    .
    Again!! Having a polling card does not entitle you to vote if you are not in fact entitled. It also does not remove responsibility from said voter to ensure they are legally allowed.
    donegaLroad wrote: »
    where the figure of 66,000 come from. It sounds like a hell of a lot to me
    Yeah I got confused. It's the number of new voters.
    emigrate2012 wrote: »
    Crawl back under your rock ffs,any proof of these shenanigans??? 14 odd hours after the ballot and you're slinging some serious sh!t there pal....

    If I were to marry a bloke tommorow, what DIRECT effect would it have on YOU??
    Nothing whatsoever.....
    The people have spoken, equality for all at last.

    Look outside,it's a beautiful day go out and enjoy it and stop stirring sh!the.

    I for one am gonna go into the city tonight, cos there's gonna be one hell of a hooley!!!!
    Great for you. Enjoy the win. This referendum is taking Irish society one step further towards a place I do not want to be.
    pablomakaveli wrote: »
    Report them for electoral fraud then. Doesn't invalidate the rights of those who were entitled to vote returning and doing so.
    Sure. I only have a problem with the people who are voting illegally and doing it in plain sight.
    pmasterson95 wrote: »
    What it has shown is the hypocrisy more than anything. The yes campaigns dirty preachy tactics


    but even funnier they scream for equality for all. Yet its obvious they only mean for the gays. If your under 35 you dont deserve to be treated equally and have a chance of presidency. That has been trounced. Now they say how great we are at treating people equally. Hypocritical bandwagon jumping at its finest :D.
    LOL
    Triangla wrote: »
    Is there a figure on non residents who came home to vote no?

    IMHO if you have an Irish passport you should have a right to vote in every election.
    That's just your opinion. It is meaningless unless you are a judge or something.
    MathDebater wrote: »
    Moan about corruption and fraud in Irish politics constantly. Ignore voter fraud when it 'benefits' your 'side'. The no side would have done the exact same too.

    It's a joke.

    True. My problem is it is so easy to get on the register with ZERO checks.
    Cold War Kid wrote: »
    How could they have voted so?! It's really strict at the polling booths. Mother of god. Coming here doesn't mean they actually got to vote in the end, ffs.

    Really strict??? What country do you live in?
    renegademaster wrote: »
    Hold up a minute, its not like hundreds of thousands did a dinny o brine and relocated to just avoid tax liabilities, they were forced out of the country so I say even if they're well over the 18 months let them flippin vote
    Your opinion is meaningless in the eyes of the law.
    fed up sick and tired wrote: »
    You ran away last night from explaining your flimsy and barely-concealed xenophobia. Somewhere else on boards you have been implying that only people who 'contribute' should be allowed to vote.

    Now this op with more rash allegations. Give it a rest.

    Everything out of your mouth is half-baked ill-reasoned stuff. Seriously.
    Where did I run? Not all of us can stay on the Internet all day. Xenophobia, really??
    Egginacup wrote: »
    Facts are what matter here, not suspicions.
    True. French girl told me her Italian and Spanish and French co-workers asked her why she didn't vote. They all did. Numerous stories of people coming back home to vote after many years. It's so widespread there is no point reporting it. It would need to actually be investigated.
    Grandpa Hassan wrote: »
    No. A whole cohort of my college buddies who have been in London for 5 years travelled back together. And they spoke of others from their school/town doing the same. A large proportion of that 66k would have been away for long term/permanent
    So, just one example. I am sure there are many.


  • #154
    Egginacup
    Site Banned Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭Egginacup


    MathDebater wrote: »
    Don't know where you vote if it's really strict. Hand in polling card, name gets crossed off and then you're given a ballot paper. Pretty straightforward.

    And how pray tell does one get a polling card?


  • #155
    Cold War Kid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,353 ✭✭✭Cold War Kid


    stefanovich wrote: »
    So, just one example. I am sure there are many.
    You're "sure there are many" - wow, that's such ironclad proof of electoral fraud, I understand your concern.

    Seriously though, you're unhappy about a yes win - that's your opinion which you're entitled to. No need to go making up some shyte about electoral fraud though. What does that achieve?


  • #156
    stefanovich
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    Cold War Kid wrote: »
    You're "sure there are many" - wow, that's such ironclad proof of electoral fraud, I understand your concern.

    Seriously though, you're unhappy about a yes win - that's your opinion which you're entitled to. No need to go making up some shyte about electoral fraud though. What does that achieve?
    My main point here is that the security of our electoral system is virtually non-existent and extremely vulnerable to fraud.

    Couldn't really give two ****s about the yes vote to be honest. It just confirms the pointlessness of it all for me.


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  • #157
    Egginacup
    Site Banned Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭Egginacup


    Eugene Norman wrote: »
    Really. I guessed you were 55 if a day given your pro Soviet stance (reheated). How does the love of liberalism in the west and the love of Putin in the east mesh together in that brain?

    Pro-Soviet? Me? Nah!

    55? That's a long way off.


  • #158
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    stefanovich wrote: »
    What this referendum has highlighted even more clearly is the lack of security in our electoral system, how broken and open to abuse it is.
    66,000 non-residents return to vote yes. Enda is overjoyed.
    Non-Irish registered and voting and proud.

    While I accept that there may be issues with Irish people returning, they couldn't vote without being registered. Realistically, their numbers who returned to vote wouldn't make much difference to the outcome.

    Who can vote in a Referendum?
    You must be an Irish citizen
    You must be at least 18 years old
    Your name must be on the Register of Electors
    If you are an Irish citizen living abroad you cannot be entered on the Register of electors. This means that you cannot vote in an election or referendum here in Ireland. (The only exception to this is Irish diplomats (and their spouses) on duty abroad who may cast their vote by post)

    - See more at: http://www.refcom.ie/en/Frequently-Asked-Questions/#vot


  • #159
    Cold War Kid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,353 ✭✭✭Cold War Kid


    stefanovich wrote: »
    My main point here is that the security of our electoral system is virtually non-existent and extremely vulnerable to fraud.
    Right, so you've moved the goalposts from "There was loads of electoral fraud" to "Electoral fraud is a possibility". Two distinct things.
    Couldn't really give two ****s about the yes vote to be honest.
    Yes you could, you said only a few posts ago that it's sending Ireland in a direction you don't want it going.

    This is too easy.


  • #160
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    wil wrote: »
    The Gathering 2013 Home for the craic
    The Gathering 2015 Home to vote
    What'll they call the next episode?

    The Weddings 2016. Home for the bash.


  • #161
    ancapailldorcha
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,580 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    So Ireland has made a huge leap towards being a more equal society and now we have the "No" side spouting tinfoil-hat style nonsense like the OP? The people have spoken. It is as simple as that. We had the Conservatives win a majority earlier this month in the UK. I don't like it but I respect the electorate's decision.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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  • #162
    Egginacup
    Site Banned Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭Egginacup


    anna080 wrote: »
    This is going to sound awful and leave me open to all sorts of abuse but I really hope those who celebrate tonight do it respectfully and with dignity. They're entitled to let loose after such a long campaign but it would only take one excessive incident to start the no crowd and in particular the Iona bunch to start mouthing.


    Couple of guys snogging in public going to herald the end of the world?


  • #163
    folamh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 787 ✭✭✭folamh


    Many of the people who returned to vote are young people who plan to return to their home country when their prospects improve. The referendum is very relevant to their future.


  • #164
    stefanovich
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    Cold War Kid wrote: »
    Right, so you've moved the goalposts from "There was loads of electoral fraud" to "Electoral fraud is a possibility". Two distinct things.

    Yes you could, you said only a few posts ago that it's sending Ireland in a direction you don't want it going.

    This is too easy.
    I probably would have enjoyed a no vote but gay marriage is not really an issue for me. What was an issue was the approach of the yes side here and the liberal agenda in the media.

    Electoral fraud is a possibility. There are also people blatantly taking advantage of it.


  • #165
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    That opening post got a great laugh out of a table of drinkers here in Vietnam. Thanks OP.


  • #166
    stefanovich
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    ancapailldorcha wrote: »
    We had the Conservatives win a majority earlier this month in the UK..
    I should focus on the good news like this!
    folamh wrote: »
    Many of the people who returned to vote are young people who plan to return to their home country when their prospects improve. The referendum is very relevant to their future.
    Interesting opinion. Does not change the law though.


  • #167
    Cold War Kid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,353 ✭✭✭Cold War Kid


    stefanovich wrote: »
    I probably would have enjoyed a no vote but gay marriage is not really an issue for me. What was an issue was the approach of the yes side here and the liberal agenda in the media.

    Electoral fraud is a possibility. There are also people blatantly taking advantage of it.
    Which people are blatantly taking advantage of it? The only example I'm aware of is someone taking a photo of marking X in the "no" box on their ballot paper. What approach by the yes side? What about the tactics of some on the no side?

    Oh wait, you said "Liberal agenda" - all I need to know. :)

    So it's clear you don't want SSM marriage and have other right-leaning views. Honestly, I disagree with your views but I also appreciate you have a right to hold them and nobody can dictate to you what to think. However I find making stuff up about electoral fraud just because you have those views and skirting around your views by pretending you don't really care (when you do - otherwise you wouldn't be making stuff up about electoral fraud) to be pretty darn underhanded to say the least.


  • #168
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    stefanovich wrote: »
    I probably would have enjoyed a no vote but gay marriage is not really an issue for me. What was an issue was the approach of the yes side here and the liberal agenda in the media.

    Electoral fraud is a possibility. There are also people blatantly taking advantage of it.

    There were people bragging in some threads yesterday about committing voter fraud and voting no several times. You never once took issue with any of them. So basically...



  • #169
    stefanovich
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    Cold War Kid wrote: »
    Which people are blatantly taking advantage of it? The only example I'm aware of is someone taking a photo of marking X in the "no" box on their ballot paper. What approach by the yes side? What about the tactics of some on the no side?

    Oh wait, you said "Liberal agenda" - all I need to know. :)

    So it's clear you don't want SSM marriage and have other right-leaning views. Honestly, I disagree with your views but I also appreciate you have a right to hold them and nobody can dictate to you what to think. However I find making stuff up about electoral fraud just because you have those views and skirting around your views by pretending you don't really care (when you do - otherwise you wouldn't be making stuff up about electoral fraud) to be pretty darn underhanded to say the least.
    This whole post was a result of a friend telling me their European co-workers were all voting yes!


  • #170
    stefanovich
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    Billy86 wrote: »
    There were people bragging in some threads yesterday about committing voter fraud and voting no several times.
    Never saw that, would have called them out on it if I did.


  • #171
    Depraved
    Registered Users Posts: 156 ✭✭Depraved


    I'm Irish. I live abroad (6 months now).
    But even if it was 19 months or more, why shouldn't I be allowed to vote? I'd still be an Irish citizen, still able to come home at any time and live in the country again.
    Why shouldn't I have a say in how my country works. And even if the outcome of an election/referendum doesn't personally affect me at the moment, I have family & friends in Ireland. I want to see the best decisions made for them also.

    So...this law being mentioned again and again here is a bad law. I don't stop being Irish because I'm out of the country for 18 months or more. I don't stop caring about the laws and constitutional rights.


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  • #172
    fed up sick and tired
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,015 ✭✭✭fed up sick and tired


    anna080 wrote: »
    This is going to sound awful and leave me open to all sorts of abuse but I really hope those who celebrate tonight do it respectfully and with dignity. They're entitled to let loose after such a long campaign but it would only take one excessive incident to start the no crowd and in particular the Iona bunch to start mouthing.

    Do you need to be pejorative ?

    By 'mouthing' do you mean exercise their right to free speech ? Did they lose the right to comment on what yourself calls excessive incidents ?

    A pity you refer to people as the no 'crowd' and the Iona 'bunch'. Not a very sophisticated attitude.


  • #173
    Egginacup
    Site Banned Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭Egginacup


    stefanovich wrote: »
    My main point here is that the security of our electoral system is virtually non-existent and extremely vulnerable to fraud.

    Couldn't really give two ****s about the yes vote to be honest. It just confirms the pointlessness of it all for me.

    But your thread title says that the result was a victory for electoral fraud. If you were so concerned about electoral criminality then why didn't you open a thread about it that was not related to the result of this referendum?
    Why did you even bring the result into the equation unless you are now going to backpeddle and say that this, and ALL previous referenda, were victories for electoral fraud?


  • #174
    Cerveja
    Registered Users Posts: 21 ✭Cerveja


    Bitter much, OP.


  • #175
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    stefanovich wrote: »
    Never saw that, would have called them out on it if I did.

    Of course you didn't.


  • #176
    fed up sick and tired
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,015 ✭✭✭fed up sick and tired


    stefanovich wrote: »
    This whole post was a result of a friend telling me their European co-workers were all voting yes!

    No. You said it was your 'better half' who told you so.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=95589039&postcount=1

    Think you're a bit of a fraud yourself, to be honest.


  • #177
    stefanovich
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    Depraved wrote: »
    So...this law being mentioned again and again here is a bad law..
    Whether you agree or not breaking it is a criminal offence.

    fed up sick and tired wrote: »
    Do you need to be pejorative ?

    By 'mouthing' do you mean exercise their right to free speech ? Did they lose the right to comment on what yourself calls excessive incidents ?

    A pity you refer to people as the no 'crowd' and the Iona 'bunch'. Not a very sophisticated attitude.
    People should behave decently in public regardless of sexuality. Tonight will be like gay pride on steroids though.
    Egginacup wrote: »
    But your thread title says that the result was a victory for electoral fraud. If you were so concerned about electoral criminality then why didn't you open a thread about it that was not related to the result of this referendum?
    Why did you even bring the result into the equation unless you are now going to backpeddle and say that this, and ALL previous referenda, were victories for electoral fraud?
    Look. I thought it was an interesting title for a thread, especially seeing as it coincided with the yes side win.

    I had heard of people who were untitled to vote voting which pissed me off!


  • #178
    stefanovich
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    fed up sick and tired wrote: »
    No. You said it was your 'better half' who told you so.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=95589039&postcount=1

    Think you're a bit of a fraud yourself, to be honest.
    I am trying to limit the amount of personal information on here because at least one of you is doing a bit of stalking.


  • #179
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,646 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    stefanovich wrote: »
    Whether you agree or not breaking it is a criminal offence.



    People should behave decently in public regardless of sexuality. Tonight will be like gay pride on steroids though.


    Look. I thought it was an interesting title for a thread, especially seeing as it coincided with the yes side win.

    I had heard of people who were untitled to vote voting which pissed me off!

    The people have spoken, Ireland is a democratic society, you can either accept this and move on or harbour the bitterness in your heart for the rest of your life.


  • #180
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,646 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    stefanovich wrote: »
    I am trying to limit the amount of personal information on here because at least one of you is doing a bit of stalking.

    Nothing stalking about that, you told a lie and have been pulled up on it.


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  • #181
    stefanovich
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    The people have spoken, Ireland is a democratic society, you can either accept this and move on or harbour the bitterness in your heart for the rest of your life.
    I've accepted it.


  • #182
    fed up sick and tired
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,015 ✭✭✭fed up sick and tired


    stefanovich wrote: »
    People should behave decently in public regardless of sexuality. Tonight will be like gay pride on steroids though.

    Indeed. And if there is an excessive incident, people are entitled to voice their objection to it.

    Without being referred to pejoratively as the no 'crowd', or the Iona 'bunch'.

    Which are petty terms to refer to people you disagree with. In my view.


  • #183
    Egginacup
    Site Banned Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭Egginacup


    stefanovich wrote: »
    Again!! Having a polling card does not entitle you to vote if you are not in fact entitled. It also does not remove responsibility from said voter to ensure they are legally allowed.

    Then what is the purpose of a polling card?

    Great for you. Enjoy the win. This referendum is taking Irish society one step further towards a place I do not want to be.

    Are you talking about rampant (according to you) electoral fraud or the fact that gays can now marry....something that you just said you were happy about (or ok with the result....or something)

    True. French girl told me her Italian and Spanish and French co-workers asked her why she didn't vote. They all did. Numerous stories of people coming back home to vote after many years. It's so widespread there is no point reporting it. It would need to actually be investigated.

    So, just one example. I am sure there are many.

    What numerous stories? What are you on about? And you are "sure" there are many? In order to be "sure" of anything you have to know it is true. Not "inclined to think so".
    So where's all your damning evidence of fraud?


  • #184
    stefanovich
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Nothing stalking about that, you told a lie and have been pulled up on it.
    I wasn't specifically talking about that. I am talking about people mentioning where I live, what car I drive etc. I didn't want to mention it was my girlfriend because her nationality is another piece of the puzzle.


  • #185
    FrStone
    Registered Users Posts: 720 ✭✭✭FrStone


    The Backwards Man wrote: »
    I mean people that are working abroad for Irish firms.

    They still wouldn't be passing tax here though. If you are non resident you don't pay tax on Ireland. Only exception is if you sell specified Irish assets, which would be rare.

    I'm delighted with the yes vote, however I am annoyed with the mockery made by the home to vote crowd, many who legally aren't allowed vote, but took advantage of the mess that is the electoral register and voted anyway.


  • #186
    fed up sick and tired
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,015 ✭✭✭fed up sick and tired


    stefanovich wrote: »
    I am trying to limit the amount of personal information on here because at least one of you is doing a bit of stalking.

    You might be as well off not bothering with any of this at all.


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  • #187
    mcmoustache
    Registered Users Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    The electoral fraud isn't really what's bothering you, OP, now is it?


  • #188
    Egginacup
    Site Banned Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭Egginacup


    stefanovich wrote: »
    My main point here is that the security of our electoral system is virtually non-existent and extremely vulnerable to fraud.

    Couldn't really give two ****s about the yes vote to be honest. It just confirms the pointlessness of it all for me.

    Explain.

    And not with some crappy anecdote about how your cousin's French nanny said she voted or some feeble line like "I'm sure many people voted who weren't entitled to".

    Explain how this security is virtually non-existent and extremely vulnerable to fraud.


  • #189
    stefanovich
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    I'll tell you what, this was an interesting and entertaining thread so far which was kind of its purpose. Yes the title is a bit provocative. That was intentional.


  • #190
    FrStone
    Registered Users Posts: 720 ✭✭✭FrStone


    Egginacup wrote: »
    Explain.

    And not with some crappy anecdote about how your cousin's French nanny said she voted or some feeble line like "I'm sure many people voted who weren't entitled to".

    Explain how this security is virtually non-existent and extremely vulnerable to fraud.

    In all fairness he is right, it is fierce easy to get in the register. I'm on it twice, I could easily vote twice and no one would ever know. I don't though obviously.


  • #191
    stefanovich
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    Egginacup wrote: »
    Explain.

    And not with some crappy anecdote about how your cousin's French nanny said she voted or some feeble line like "I'm sure many people voted who weren't entitled to".

    Explain how this security is virtually non-existent and extremely vulnerable to fraud.
    • No ID checks at polling booths
    • People getting added and removed at whim for the polls (I've seen countless examples)
    • Council workers calling to the door and and asking for names of voters and adding them with zero checks. (I know, that's how I was registered!)


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  • #192
    Eutow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,197 ✭✭✭Eutow


    stefanovich wrote: »
    I'll tell you what, this was an interesting and entertaining thread so far which was kind of its purpose. Yes the title is a bit provocative. That was intentional.

    May I suggest you take up a job as a headline writer for some low rent tabloid. Nothing you say now will have any validity.

    Edit: Any legitimate concern regarding the security of the electoral system, or it's accuracy you may have has been overshadowed by your other agenda.


  • #193
    stefanovich
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    Eutow wrote: »
    May I suggest you take up a job as a headline writer for some low rent tabloid. Nothing you say now will have any validity.
    It's after hours, it was tongue in cheek. Unsurprised by the amount of hate from the left though.

    Why don't you just enjoy your win and keep your energy for the celebrations tonight where you can all enjoy the infinite feedback loop which is the left.


  • #194
    DarkyHughes
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,393 ✭✭✭DarkyHughes


    stefanovich wrote: »
    • No ID checks at polling booths
    • People getting added and removed at whim for the polls (I've seen countless examples)
    • Council workers calling to the door and and asking for names of voters and adding them with zero checks. (I know, that's how I was registered!)

    Sour grapes make you sick.


  • #195
    stefanovich
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    Eutow wrote: »
    May I suggest you take up a job as a headline writer for some low rent tabloid. Nothing you say now will have any validity.

    Edit: Any legitimate concern regarding the security of the electoral system, or it's accuracy you may have has been overshadowed by your other agenda.
    This post's temporal proximity to the referendum was no accident. It was triggered by anecdotes I heard around non-Irish voting yesterday.


  • #196
    Eutow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,197 ✭✭✭Eutow


    stefanovich wrote: »
    It's after hours, it was tongue in cheek. Unsurprised by the amount of hate from the left though.

    Why don't you just enjoy your win and keep your energy for the celebrations tonight where you can all enjoy the infinite feedback loop which is the left.

    You only admitted to it being tongue in cheek because you were found out to be economical with the truth, changing your story. I don't know what "wing" I'm supposed to be on, so I don't know how you would know.


  • #197
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,146 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    stefanovich wrote: »
    What this referendum has highlighted even more clearly is the lack of security in our electoral system, how broken and open to abuse it is.

    66,000 non-residents return to vote yes. Enda is overjoyed.

    Non-Irish registered and voting and proud.
    good. i couldn't give a ****, it passed thats all that matters. victory for ireland

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • #198
    stefanovich
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    Eutow wrote: »
    You only admitted to it being tongue in cheek because you were found out to be economical with the truth, changing your story. I don't know what "wing" I'm supposed to be on, so I don't know how you would know.
    How was I economical with the truth?? I was just trying to limit the personal information here due to the militant yes side. I said friend instead of girlfriend. She is both so no lie there.


  • #199
    stefanovich
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    end of the road wrote: »
    good. i couldn't give a ****, it passed thats all that matters. victory for ireland
    Yeah **** democracy, at least you got what you wanted.


  • #200
    Cold War Kid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,353 ✭✭✭Cold War Kid


    stefanovich wrote: »
    Yeah **** democracy, at least you got what you wanted.
    It *was* democracy, the majority voted yes - what the flying fuq are you on about? Are you actually losing the plot? :confused:


  • #201
    Discodog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,918 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    It's a disgrace that Irish citizens have to come home to vote. There should be an online system to let them vote from anywhere in the World.


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