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People from Northern Ireland are not British!

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    #62
    owenc
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,524 ✭✭✭owenc


    karma_ wrote: »
    I think you better check your map again there bud.

    U don't belive me measure it on google earth! http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_people it states British people are from the united kingdom, ni is in the uk so therefore we are British!


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    #63
    moonpurple
    Closed Accounts Posts: 852 ✭✭✭moonpurple


    in reply to OP, I listened and pat kenny made a clear verbal gaffe, rushing to finish before the news


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    #64
    Fratton Fred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    karma_ wrote: »
    Jaysus, I know what it meant, It was a joke at Fred's expense, you know like the joke he ended his post with.

    I got it!

    I think the word great was used because the term "The dog's bollox" hadn't been invented then!!

    Actually, to keep the unionists happy, maybe a united Ireland could be called Lessor Britain, or Minor Britain to reflect the correct geographical term!


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    #65
    Rebelheart
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,077 ✭✭✭Rebelheart


    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    Not that it matters, we are all British as we are all from the British Isles

    How very, well, British nationalist of you. Well done.


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    #66
    Gaelic32
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12 ✭Gaelic32


    owenc wrote: »
    U don't belive me measure it on google earth! http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_people it states British people are from the united kingdom, ni is in the uk so therefore we are British!

    Sorry to burst your wee bubble ther owenc but Coleraine is as irish as Cork, it derives its name from the Irish: Cúil Raithin meaning "ferny corner"


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    #67
    karma_
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,798 ✭✭✭karma_


    owenc wrote: »
    U don't belive me measure it on google earth! http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_people it states British people are from the united kingdom, ni is in the uk so therefore we are British!

    Yes Owen, we may be British citizens but that has nothing really to do with our nationality.


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    #68
    lugha
    Registered Users Posts: 3,235 ✭✭✭lugha


    gizmo555 wrote: »
    Pat Kenny is absolutely right. In the Good Friday agreement the UK and Irish governments affirmed that they:

    recognise the birthright of all the people of Northern Ireland to identify themselves and be accepted as Irish or British, or both, as they may so choose, and accordingly confirm that their right to hold both British and Irish citizenship is accepted by both Governments and would not be affected by any future change in the status of Northern Ireland.

    http://www.nio.gov.uk/agreement.pdf

    He would be quite correct to say 'not all people from Northern Ireland are British'. But the OP quotes him as saying 'all people from Northern Ireland are not British' which is not quite the same thing.


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    #69
    Fratton Fred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    Rebelheart wrote: »
    How very, well, British nationalist of you. Well done.

    Sigh.....


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    #70
    LordSutch
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    SugarHigh wrote: »
    I have Irish parents who lived in England in the 80's where I was born and then they moved back to Ireland when I was only a year old.

    I hold an Irish passport but you are saying I am not Irish.

    Well going by what Pat kenny suggests, you are indeed British/English, but you certainly cannot be Irish, seeing as you were born in Britain :D


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    #71
    karma_
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,798 ✭✭✭karma_


    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    I got it!

    I think the word great was used because the term "The dog's bollox" hadn't been invented then!!

    Actually, to keep the unionists happy, maybe a united Ireland could be called Lessor Britain, or Minor Britain to reflect the correct geographical term!

    I knew you would, I'm very disappointed in the other two though.


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    #72
    owenc
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,524 ✭✭✭owenc


    Gaelic32 wrote: »
    Sorry to burst your wee bubble ther owenc but Coleraine is as irish as Cork, it derives its name from the Irish: Cúil Raithin meaning "ferny corner"

    The people arnt


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    #73
    gurramok
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    owenc wrote: »
    U don't belive me measure it on google earth! http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_people it states British people are from the united kingdom, ni is in the uk so therefore we are British!

    Only some of you claim to be British or British Irish, if the Irish tag is too insulting. The other side of the divide want to be Irish and their wishes should be respected.
    Fratton Fred wrote:
    Actually, to keep the unionists happy, maybe a united Ireland could be called Lessor Britain, or Minor Britain to reflect the correct geographical term!

    As part of the Irish Isles of course :D


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    #74
    Rebelheart
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,077 ✭✭✭Rebelheart


    owenc wrote: »
    U don't belive me measure it on google earth! http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_people it states British people are from the united kingdom, ni is in the uk so therefore we are British!

    Try, at least try, and answer what he was referring to. But then again anybody who says (albeit convolutely) that Down is nearer to Britain than it is to the Republic has just not thought much about how far it is from many fields in Down to many other fields in Louth.


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    #75
    owenc
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,524 ✭✭✭owenc


    lugha wrote: »
    He would be quite correct to say 'not all people from Northern Ireland are British'. But the OP quotes him as saying 'all people from Northern Ireland are not British' which is not quite the same thing.

    Actually my passport says nationality and British below!:cool:


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    #76
    LordSutch
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    lugha wrote: »
    He would be quite correct to say 'not all people from Northern Ireland are British'. But the OP quotes him as saying 'all people from Northern Ireland are not British' which is not quite the same thing.

    Pat's statement is pretty categoricle, if you were born in Ireland (North or South) you are Irish, end of . . . (according to him).


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    #77
    Rebelheart
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,077 ✭✭✭Rebelheart


    owenc wrote: »
    Actually my passport says nationality and British below!:cool:

    That's because you're a raging loyalist/unionist. Duh.


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    #78
    karma_
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,798 ✭✭✭karma_


    owenc wrote: »
    Actually my passport says nationality and British below!:cool:

    Owen, in simple terms you are a British citizen, no one is attempting to deny you that fact.

    Your Nationality remains as Irish/Northern Irish.


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    #79
    owenc
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,524 ✭✭✭owenc


    Rebelheart wrote: »
    Try, at least try, and answer what he was referring to. But then again anybody who says (albeit convolutely) that Down is nearer to Britain than it is to the Republic has just not thought much about how far it is from many fields in Down to many other fields in Louth.

    I said I'm closer to scotland than down!


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    #80
    karma_
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,798 ✭✭✭karma_


    Camelot wrote: »
    Pat's statement is pretty categoricle, if you were born in Ireland (North or South) you are Irish, end of . . . (according to him).

    That is correct.


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    #81
    owenc
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,524 ✭✭✭owenc


    Rebelheart wrote: »
    That's because you're a raging loyalist/unionist. Duh.

    I'm no loyalist!:)


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    #82
    SugarHigh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,265 ✭✭✭SugarHigh


    Camelot wrote: »
    Well going by what Pat kenny suggests, you are indeed British/English, but you certainly cannot be Irish, seeing as you were born in Britain :D
    Well my Irish passport has Irish under nationality.:D


    As far as I know I'm allowed to get a British passport as well because my parents lived there for more than 10 years, I wonder would the British passport also have Irish under nationality?


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    #83
    lugha
    Registered Users Posts: 3,235 ✭✭✭lugha


    Camelot wrote: »
    Pat's statement is pretty categoricle, if you were born in Ireland (North or South) you are Irish, end of . . . (according to him).

    I doubt if that is what he was saying, or he surely would have said "no one from Northern Ireland is British"


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    #84
    karma_
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,798 ✭✭✭karma_


    SugarHigh wrote: »
    Well my Irish passport has Irish under nationality.:D


    As far as I know I'm allowed to get a British passport as well because my parents lived there for more than 10 years, I wonder would the British passport also have Irish under nationality?

    You would of course qualify for a British passport. I have both. Off teh top of my head I would think it does list your nationality as Irish, I would need to check to confirm though.


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    #85
    SugarHigh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,265 ✭✭✭SugarHigh


    karma_ wrote: »
    You would of course qualify for a British passport. I have both. Off teh top of my head I would think it does list your nationality as Irish, I would need to check to confirm though.
    Is there any reason to have both?

    I've considered getting one to take advantage of the British equivalents of the j1.


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    #86
    dlofnep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    Since when did we give a fiddler's about what Pat Kenny thinks? Is Camelot really that stuck for material that he's now quoting Pat Kenny?

    People from the north are Irish by geography, and Irish or British by nationality - depending on what they as an individual choose. Beyond that - who gives a shít?


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    #87
    gurramok
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    karma_ wrote: »
    You would of course qualify for a British passport. I have both. Off teh top of my head I would think it does list your nationality as Irish, I would need to check to confirm though.

    I'm in same boat as SugarHigh. Irish parents lived in Britain for a while and I too have Irish passport, I was reared here for most of my life though :)


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    #88
    sirromo
    Registered Users Posts: 156 ✭✭sirromo


    At the end of the day, we're all British-isles people and we're all white European christians. We should be focusing on the things that unite us, not the things that divide us.


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    #89
    Rebelheart
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    sirromo wrote: »
    At the end of the day, we're all British-isles people and we're all white European christians. We should be focusing on the things that unite us, not the things that divide us.

    :rolleyes:


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    #90
    karma_
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,798 ✭✭✭karma_


    SugarHigh wrote: »
    Is there any reason to have both?

    I've considered getting one to take advantage of the British equivalents of the j1.

    Avoiding visa issues when travelling to & from the US is why I had 2.


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    #91
    dlofnep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    sirromo wrote: »
    At the end of the day, we're all British-isles people and we're all white European christians. We should be focusing on the things that unite us, not the things that divide us.

    Eh, no we're not.


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