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Intermittant Fasting

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  • #102
    Yahya Fluffy Number
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    boogle wrote: »
    I did one fast day (one 450-500 cal meal) last week and another fast day this Monday. Planning to get another fast day in this week with an aim to following the 5-2 plan. Waited until around 6 to have my meal on both fast days and have to say I didn't find it hard to do at all. I had a few hunger pangs but no worse than just being hungry at lunch or dinnertime. One thing I did notice was getting really hungry quite shortly after my single meal. Had to resist reaching for a yoghurt or something. Otherwise, very doable. I even gave blood on Monday evening when I was fasting. I ate my dinner before going though and they forced some fanta into me afterwards :)

    I'm wondering; I'm not fasting on 2 consecutive days. Is this ok?

    Yeah the hunger will spike a bit again but then dies down. I had my single meal... well actually it was muck the last time, I won't call it a meal, and was complaining of being hungry about an hour later, but another hour and I wasn't hungry anymore and not bothered

    trying an actual 24 hour fast with no meal today (though i might be tempted by some soup) to see what happens. the 400 cal days are straightforward enough. did 2 last week, then one this monday, today is day 2, then will maybe try again on friday
    i would say 5-2 is quite sustainable in the long run though

    i don't think you should be doing them on consecutive days unless you really want to


  • #103
    Gummy Panda
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    I find the 24 hour fasting easier then 16/8 system. I thought I would be grumpy and sluggish in work but I became sharp and focused.


  • #104
    Ant11
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    mufcboy1999 wrote: »
    has anyone here tried IF bulking yet in 18/6 window?

    AFAIK, Ferike1 started a bulk recently on IF.


  • #105
    Chancer3001
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    im doing the 18/6 too.


  • #106
    Ant11
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    Chancer3001 wrote: »
    im doing the 18/6 too.

    You bulking? How you finding it?

    I'm still cutting, slowly.


  • #107
    Chancer3001
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    im also cutting slowly.

    only in my 3rd week now. (easily had 5cheat days in there too)

    making gains in the gym and losing weight.

    definitly a bit more defined.

    so its going pretty well. I see myself keeping it up for the long term.


  • #108
    Ant11
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    It's good to see others benefitting from it too. I'm currently wolfing down my PWO meal.


  • #109
    ferike1
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    Chancer3001 wrote: »
    im doing the 18/6 too.

    Yeah I am bulking but doing the standard window 16/8. Doing fine. Before I was 83/84. Now 84/85 with little fat gain. Check my log for pics. Although as I am sick now IF is out the window. I have to take antibiotics when I wake up and on an empty stomach they cause nausea. However as I am sick I am also eating less than usual too!

    When I get better will weigh myself and get my bf taken at the gym. That will be starting point!


  • #110
    --Kaiser--
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    Chancer3001 wrote: »
    serious-ish question...

    anybody find themselves more emotional while doing IF?

    No. I've done 3 day fasts and I felt full of energy. Mind gets really clear too.

    You're probably suffering mood swings due to fluctuating blood sugar


  • #111
    Yahya Fluffy Number
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    Chancer3001 wrote: »
    serious-ish question...

    anybody find themselves more emotional while doing IF?

    I get a bit more grumpy the morning after i start then settle back to normal
    I'm usually grumpy in the mornings though, maybe it's just exacerbated :pac:


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  • #112
    Gummy Panda
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    It's crazy when you think of it that we worked hard to have an abundance of food and convenience but now we are seeing a trend of people returning random calorie restriction to improve health.


  • #113
    boogle
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    Gummy Panda wrote: »
    It's crazy when you think of it that we worked hard to have an abundance of food and convenience but now we are seeing a trend of people returning random calorie restriction to improve health.

    Full circle huh? I can see Ireland following the American trend of obesity being a low-pay/poverty-related problem. It's so counter-intuitive!


  • #114
    ferike1
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    I think the thing is our eating habits have only really changed not too long ago (in evolutionary terms). If you look at caveman times surely they weren't eating all day (six small meals), they would probably catch a huge mammoth or whatever and feast and then go hungry til they caught something substantial again.


  • #115
    madma
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    ferike1 wrote: »
    I think the thing is our eating habits have only really changed not too long ago (in evolutionary terms). If you look at caveman times surely they weren't eating all day (six small meals), they would probably catch a huge mammoth or whatever and feast and then go hungry til they caught something substantial again.


    yeah im glad i got nutritonally up to speed this year more than ever.. i always thought we needed the 6 small meals or had to have breakfeast.. if only i knew its a load of bull IMO. had no good progress for years but finally seeing results this year.


  • #116
    Gummy Panda
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    Fasting since 10pm last night. I feel this really breaks bad habits. When I get hungry I don't think of junk food but stuff like steak, chicken, eggs and veg. Even fish and I don't really like fish :confused:


  • #117
    boogle
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    Going to do my second fasting day this week tomorrow. I'm thinking it'll stop me from doing my usual Friday evening lunge for the red wine...


  • #118
    KABLOOEY
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    Do ye think it's necessary to hit the macros or is it alright to intermittent fast and just make sure protein is high? This is my third day on it. Everyday I've had a breakfast/lunch of 5/6 eggs with 75-100g bacon. Dinner the last two nights was 2 large steaks & 250g basmati rice (obviously will switch that up). I have 9g Omega 3 oil and supplement with BCAAs, glutamine & creatine post-workout. It's right in line with cutting calorie requirements but wonder do I need to monitor carbs/fats more?


  • #119
    Ant11
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    KABLOOEY wrote: »
    Do ye think it's necessary to hit the macros or is it alright to intermittent fast and just make sure protein is high? This is my third day on it. Everyday I've had a breakfast/lunch of 5/6 eggs with 75-100g bacon. Dinner the last two nights was 2 large steaks & 250g basmati rice (obviously will switch that up). I have 9g Omega 3 oil and supplement with BCAAs, glutamine & creatine post-workout. It's right in line with cutting calorie requirements but wonder do I need to monitor carbs/fats more?

    If your cutting it might be better if you had pre determined macros and planned what you eat. That way your sure that your maintaining your calorie deficit. Also leangains mentions on training days to have carbs high n fat low and the opposite on rest days. I keep protein high everyday to maintain muscle while cutting. How high/low you have your macros will depend on personal preference and how your own body reacts.


  • #120
    daRobot
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    Chancer3001 wrote: »
    one I watched recently

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmXLqmqBzeU&playnext=1&list=PLD7EA4B39BF6A55DC&feature=results_video

    the importance of not eating pwo.

    *readies for controversy*

    Interesting, but those two lads are seriously annoying.


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  • #121
    daenerysstormborn3
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    Does anybody have a problem with nausea while fasting or sickness when they do eventually eat after fasting?


  • #122
    Ant11
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    pixiebean22 wrote: »
    Does anybody have a problem with nausea while fasting or sickness when they do eventually eat after fasting?

    I've been doing IF 2 months now and never had any problems. When did you start IF? Do you regularly feel nausea when fasting or was it a one off? maybe your not used to it yet or maybe IF isn't suitable for you.


  • #123
    daenerysstormborn3
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    I'm not doing IF but I do suffer from nausea if I don't eat at my usual times and if I haven't eaten for a while and when I eat I do sometimes get sick so I'm just wondering if anyone that does IF suffers this way.


  • #124
    Ant11
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    pixiebean22 wrote: »
    I'm not doing IF but I do suffer from nausea if I don't eat at my usual times and if I haven't eaten for a while and when I eat I do sometimes get sick so I'm just wondering if anyone that does IF suffers this way.

    Ah I see. There's a good few doing IF on boards so maybe others have had nausea related experiences.


  • #125
    Chancer3001
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    no nausea ever.

    can totally relate to not wanting junk food.

    when im breaking my fast i just want meat! want quality more than quantity...

    2 workmates started if today too, seems to be getting more popular.


  • #126
    King of Kings
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    sick in the morning when i had green tea on an empty stomach.
    puked up too

    othewise no bother


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  • #127
    Yahya Fluffy Number
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    no sickness for me


  • #128
    RobAMerc
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    no nausea ever but for the first 2 weeks I had been getting a really cloudy feeling in my head and unable to think straight just before I hit the gym or eat (on non training days).

    I took last week off as I was on Holiday and was unable to guarantee I would get anything to eat at all if I didn't eat early, but this week I am finding it much better although not entirely clear.


  • #129
    Toplink
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    Is it ok to do a heavy Interval Training session after fasting? I'd be eating straight away afterwards.

    Is there any benefit to me?

    I can fit in some IT in the mornings before breakfast so it would be handy if there was no downsides to it.

    120m sprints 20 seconds rest x 5

    1 min rest

    5 x 90m same rest as above

    1 min rest

    5 x 20m same rest


  • #130
    Chancer3001
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    training fasted seems to be a personal thing. if you can do it, go for it.

    read the leangains site where he goes on about the benefits.


  • #131
    xgtdec
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    just a very quick question in regards to IF

    My workouts Alternate between after and before work, after being 5pm abd before being 6am.

    My IF schedule see's my feeding window open at 1pm to 9pm.

    BUT;)

    if i workout say 6-7am, can i have a whey shake and keep the timing of the first meal to 1PM

    Would a whey shake with water be very detrimental to the fasting period??

    Any advice very much appreciated


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  • #132
    Chancer3001
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    its not fasting if youre having a whey shake!

    Why not count that as your first meal?

    Or train and dont eat after it til 1 or whenever.

    The good thing about IF is the window can be adapted to suit your needs...


  • #133
    Ant11
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    xgtdec wrote: »
    just a very quick question in regards to IF

    My workouts Alternate between after and before work, after being 5pm abd before being 6am.

    My IF schedule see's my feeding window open at 1pm to 9pm.

    BUT;)

    if i workout say 6-7am, can i have a whey shake and keep the timing of the first meal to 1PM

    Would a whey shake with water be very detrimental to the fasting period??

    Any advice very much appreciated

    What time you finish the gym in evenings? An eating window of 11-7 or 12-8 would prob suit the times you train. Your morning sessions will be fasted but evening ones won't.


  • #134
    xgtdec
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    Chancer3001 wrote: »
    its not fasting if youre having a whey shake!

    Why not count that as your first meal?

    Or train and dont eat after it til 1 or whenever.

    The good thing about IF is the window can be adapted to suit your needs...


    yeah i knew the whey would be a no go

    But if i count it as my first meal my window starts at 7am to 3pm, but the night before my last meal would be 9pm so im not getting the 16 hour fast inbetween.

    I figure training with no pre or post workout nutrition is a bad thing no?

    just to add on the 12-8 window prob suits the best, but again this is AM workouts with no pre or post nutrition, im just not sure thats the best thing to be doing thats all!!


  • #135
    Chancer3001
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    I figure training with no pre or post workout nutrition is a bad thing no?

    Not especially. Go read www.leangains.com if you can

    he answers all/most of the training questions youll have.


  • #136
    rocky
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    xgtdec wrote: »
    just a very quick question in regards to IF

    My workouts Alternate between after and before work, after being 5pm abd before being 6am.

    My IF schedule see's my feeding window open at 1pm to 9pm.

    BUT;)

    if i workout say 6-7am, can i have a whey shake and keep the timing of the first meal to 1PM

    Would a whey shake with water be very detrimental to the fasting period??

    Any advice very much appreciated

    You're supposed to have 10g BCAA every 1-2 hours if you train fasted in the morning until your meal time.

    It can get expensive, fast...


  • #137
    Mellor
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    Chancer3001 wrote: »
    its not fasting if youre having a whey shake!

    Why not count that as your first meal?
    I don't think that's quite right.
    As mentioned above, Leangains recomends that if you train fasted you should have some BCAAs. I'm pretty sure that it says that it's ok to sub in whey for BCAAs. Would certainly save on cost.


  • #138
    Rubber_Soul
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    And taste nicer.

    BCAA's = Satan's sperm


  • #139
    Gummy Panda
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    StarshipPooper wrote: »
    And taste nicer.

    BCAA's = Satan's sperm

    iBCAAs aren't bad tbh


  • #140
    ferike1
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    Yeah I have Purple Wrath and BCAA turbo jet from Trec nutrition


  • #141
    xgtdec
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    Jebus i cant drink purple wrrath, i think it the arginine in it make me puke after half an hour, ive settled on Xtend, tastes good and a big tub.


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  • #142
    ferike1
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    I have my IF update from April til now on my log.

    At my heaviest I was 92kgs ish, now down to 84kgs.


  • #143
    Rubber_Soul
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    Gummy Panda wrote: »
    iBCAAs aren't bad tbh

    I'll have to try them, flavoured or unflavoured?


  • #144
    diegowhite
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    ferike1 wrote: »
    I have my IF update from April til now on my log.

    At my heaviest I was 92kgs ish, now down to 84kgs.

    Can you post it on here, I cannot find it on your site? Over what period of time is the difference, did you maintain/lose/gain muscle mass in that time?


  • #145
    ferike1
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    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056660202&page=11


  • #146
    madma
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    http://uk.lifestyle.yahoo.com/5-2-diet-intermittent-fasting-lose-weight-live-longer-starve.html

    keep seeing more and more about this.. i do IF but not the 5-2 thing there on about here


  • #147
    Mellor
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    It's just a different type of IF as opposed to the more popular leangains. I think some posters here follow it, or at least very similar.
    I've been following leangains for 9 days now. Going fine. Not hard at all. Probably undershooting calories a lot.


  • #148
    RobAMerc
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    I think I am going to have to give this up.

    Since starting IF I have...

    Got daily headaches
    Lost strength ( dont seem to be making gains in gym )
    Got 2 mouth ulcers ( normally a sign I am run down )
    Got a cold I cannot shake ( v rare for me )
    I still get light headed before workout and specially during
    Wife tells me I am noticeably moody and totally disinterested in life pre breakfast.

    On the upside I have leaned out a fair bit - but at what cost ?

    Does anyone well up on the IF stuff see something glaringly obvious I am doing / not doing ?

    Only thing I am unsure of is if I am getting enough cals while feeding. Could this be the cause of all my woes?

    Ta
    Rob


  • #149
    Ant11
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    RobAMerc wrote: »
    I think I am going to have to give this up.

    Since starting IF I have...

    Got daily headaches
    Lost strength ( dont seem to be making gains in gym )
    Got 2 mouth ulcers ( normally a sign I am run down )
    Got a cold I cannot shake ( v rare for me )
    I still get light headed before workout and specially during
    Wife tells me I am noticeably moody and totally disinterested in life pre breakfast.

    On the upside I have leaned out a fair bit - but at what cost ?

    Does anyone well up on the IF stuff see something glaringly obvious I am doing / not doing ?

    Only thing I am unsure of is if I am getting enough cals while feeding. Could this be the cause of all my woes?

    Ta
    Rob

    Have you tracked your daily cal intake since you started IF?


  • #150
    RobAMerc
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    Ant11 wrote: »
    Have you tracked your daily cal intake since you started IF?


    Yea - I reckon I should be getting about 2.5 - 3k
    I am eating close to that at least, probably 2.5k + generally.


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  • #151
    Ant11
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    RobAMerc wrote: »
    Yea - I reckon I should be getting about 2.5 - 3k
    I am eating close to that at least, probably 2.5k + generally.

    So your getting enough cals during feeding so you can probably rule that out as a cause of how you feel.

    Have you been like this the whole time you've been doing IF or is it just recently? Maybe IF isn't for you, it doesn't suit everyone.

    If it was affecting my moods like that I would stop doing it. Theres no point forcing yourself to do something if your miserable and feeling run down.


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