Kildare GAA General Discussion Thread

cormac halpin · 04-01-2013 9:40am

Seems my source yesterday wasn't too far off if this article from todays Examiner is to be believed. I doubt any Kildare follower would begrudge him his move what with him having an address and living in the county. best of luck to him and his.

Kavanagh leaving Lilies for Galway

By John Fogarty and Daragh Ó Conchúir

Friday, January 04, 2013

James Kavanagh could be on the verge of a dramatic switch from Kildare to Galway.

It was confirmed yesterday the former All Star nominee had withdrawn from the Lilywhites panel for personal reasons.

Despite working as a Garda in Dublin and living in Kildare, Ballymore Eustace clubman Kavanagh owns a house in Milltown and it is expected the forward will be lining out for the Galway club come championship time.

Contacted earlier this week, Kavanagh (27) said his intention is to eventually settle in Milltown but a switch wasn’t yet on the cards.

Kavanagh, who grew up in Galway, played on the St Jarlath’s team alongside the likes of Michael Meehan in the early 2000s.

Kavanagh was part of the Kildare U21 team that won the Leinster title in 2004. He was still eligible for that grade when making his senior championship debut against Wicklow the following year. He also came on as Laois thrashed Kildare in the Leinster semi-final and was handed his first start by Padraig Nolan in the subsequent All-Ireland qualifier against Sligo in Markievicz Park.

Kavanagh has been a regular since then and flourished under Kieran McGeeney’s stewardship. His creativity and scoring threat off either foot earned him All-Star nominations in 2009 and 2010.

"James has opted out" confirmed the senior footballers’ spokesman, Morgan O’Callaghan yesterday. "He just felt he couldn’t give the time and so he won’t be involved this year anyway.

"He has given a lot to Kildare football for a long time and we all wish him well."

largepants · 04-01-2013 9:48am

As sharp as a beach ball.

cormac halpin · 04-01-2013 9:51am

That was some Ja's team Jimmy was on with Meehan, etc. Watched quite a few of their games, some of the best colleges football I ever had the pleasure of viewing. He was and still is a serious operator.

Tom Joad · 04-01-2013 10:09am

klairondavis wrote: »

I watched him twice and he did not stand out. He was very poor against Sarsfields in particular. Maybe he was better in the relegation playoffs and during the league but he'd want to have been.

Is he wasting his time? I don't know. It's up to him and whether he's really committed to Kildare or whether he's just in it for himself. There's no doubt he has talent but it remains to be seen if he can put it all together for Kildare. Karl O'Dwyer gave great service to Kildare football after a ropey enough start. I'm unconvinced that Johnston can do the same.

Let's leave the Johnston transfer in the archives where it belongs.

But with a few edits klairon I could have written that exact same post 3-4 years ago about Johnston from a Cavan point of view. Your posts usually are spot on and unfortunately I think your post above captures perfectly the enigma that is Seanie Johnston - wonderfully talented player but his commitment is always questioned when the chips are down.

full_irish · 04-01-2013 10:27am

Tom Joad wrote: »

Let's leave the Johnston transfer in the archives where it belongs.

No I feel this topic hasn't been given the attention that it deserves.:rolleyes:

We should discuss it at length. Let's get the national media involved and perhaps a sky-sports style 'Seanie Cam' to follow not only his movements on the pitch but 24/7 so that we can know the important things about the player, the man, the legend... but where do the camera crew go in the morning?? Straffan? Cavan? Newbridge? (which was a new one)

:rolleyes:

cormac halpin · 04-01-2013 10:53am

full_irish wrote: »

No I feel this topic hasn't been given the attention that it deserves.:rolleyes:

We should discuss it at length. Let's get the national media involved and perhaps a sky-sports style 'Seanie Cam' to follow not only his movements on the pitch but 24/7 so that we can know the important things about the player, the man, the legend... but where do the camera crew go in the morning?? Straffan? Cavan? Newbridge? (which was a new one) :rolleyes:

Fairly sure that's all been done, where were you for the Kildare GAA circus 2012?

Tom Joad · 04-01-2013 11:00am

full_irish wrote: »

No I feel this topic hasn't been given the attention that it deserves.:rolleyes:

We should discuss it at length. Let's get the national media involved and perhaps a sky-sports style 'Seanie Cam' to follow not only his movements on the pitch but 24/7 so that we can know the important things about the player, the man, the legend... but where do the camera crew go in the morning?? Straffan? Cavan? Newbridge? (which was a new one) :rolleyes:

What's with the slectively quoting my post and the rolleyes??

I responded to a post about Johnston's ability with my opinion so what are you trying to say??

DARK-KNIGHT · 04-01-2013 11:00am

Jesus lets not start discussing seanie it has been done to death lets be honest..

Last year was tiresome at best no way do I want to get involved in discussing it lol..

James kavanagh will be hugely missed, best of luck James...

If he does play for Galway my view of him remains the same he is an absolute gent and the very best of luck to him...

full_irish · 04-01-2013 11:14am

cormac halpin wrote: »

Fairly sure that's all been done, where were you for the Kildare GAA circus 2012?

Indeed it has, I was in the corning sobbing hysterically as we had a mare of a championship on and off the pitch.

Tom Joad wrote: »

What's with the slectively quoting my post and the rolleyes??

I responded to a post about Johnston's ability with my opinion so what are you trying to say??

The rolleyes are showing that I'm being sarcastic aka having a laugh. Not at your expense (just to be clear). I was actually agreeing with you but thought that a satirical jibe would humorous. My bad.

DARK-KNIGHT wrote: »

Jesus lets not start discussing seanie it has been done to death lets be honest..

Last year was tiresome at best no way do I want to get involved in discussing it lol..

James kavanagh will be hugely missed, best of luck James...

If he does play for Galway my view of him remains the same he is an absolute gent and the very best of luck to him...

Provided he doesn't score a single point against us! If he wants to pop in with a few own-goals (if we paly Galway) that'd be very much appreciated :P

Tom Joad · 04-01-2013 11:27am

full_irish wrote: »

The rolleyes are showing that I'm being sarcastic aka having a laugh. Not at your expense (just to be clear). I was actually agreeing with you but thought that a satirical jibe would humorous. My bad.

That's cool - I agree with your sentiments was just confused by the quoting my post. Am all for satirical jibes

DARK-KNIGHT · 04-01-2013 11:30am

Tom Joad wrote: »

That's cool - I agree with your sentiments was just confused by the quoting my post. Am all for satirical jibes

Any sign of lemlin?? Hasn't been seen here under that username for quite a while?

Tom Joad · 04-01-2013 11:32am

DARK-KNIGHT wrote: »

Any sign of lemlin?? Hasn't been seen here under that username for quite a while?

Right either I'm getting paranoid or am just really slow this morning but are you saying that I am Lemlin re-registered??

DARK-KNIGHT · 04-01-2013 11:34am

Tom Joad wrote: »

Right either I'm getting paranoid or am just really slow this morning but are you saying that I am Lemlin re-registered??

Tom I know you here 2 years lol.. No I'm not mate, but I believe lemlin is amongst us here

Tom Joad · 04-01-2013 11:43am

DARK-KNIGHT wrote: »

Tom I know you here 2 years lol.. No I'm not mate, but I believe lemlin is amongst us here

Fair enough lets leave it at that so - don't want to be derailing the Kildare thread.

klairondavis · 04-01-2013 12:32pm

The transfer was done and dusted long ago but I see no harm in debating his merits as a Kildare player now. I think he's behind a few in the pecking order right now and I would be surprised if he becomes a regular starter for Kildare on what I have seen (admittedly only 2 club matches and his cameos for Kildare last summer).

Tom Joad · 04-01-2013 1:08pm

klairondavis wrote: »

The transfer was done and dusted long ago but I see no harm in debating his merits as a Kildare player now. I think he's behind a few in the pecking order right now and I would be surprised if he becomes a regular starter for Kildare on what I have seen (admittedly only 2 club matches and his cameos for Kildare last summer).

What he needs is someone, maybe a job for Ryan, to put an arm around him and tell him he's important to the team and needed. If Kildare get the most out of him, he would be a serious addition because there is no doubt that he has the ability.

full_irish · 04-01-2013 1:27pm

Not being in the country I wouldn't have much chance to see much (aka any) club football... so a question for ye more knowledgeable posters...

...What would be your 1st choice forward 6 at the moment?

actually throw in the two mid fielders aswell seeing as I think moving TOC out to mid may be a popular shout.

klairondavis · 04-01-2013 1:43pm

Very hard to know what McGeeney is thinking at the best of times. I predict he will stick with O'Connor at full forward even though the limitations of that tactic have been shown up in the past. Mikey Conway played at wing back in a recent challenge against Wicklow so that could potentially free up a place in the half forwards. Conor Mellett, James Eaton and Cathal McNally could get a chance in the O'Byrne Cup and Paul Cribbin is back from Australia.

If we had a championship match tomorrow I think McGeeney would pick:

8 Flynn
9 Lynch/Kelly/White
10 O'Neill
11 O'Flaherty
12 Callaghan
13 Doyle
14 O'Connor
15 Smith

Conway, Fogarty, Dowling, Johnston, Cribbin, Mellett, Eaton, McNally and Groome are other options. Hurley and Brophy could be considered but I don't know if they're back on the panel or not.

fixxer · 04-01-2013 1:49pm

Good man cormac, maybe you should read the person who wrote the article instead of another journalist who wanted to spice the story up by adding the Galway link.

http://www.daraghoconchuir.ie/blog.php?all=all
Daragh, wrote the piece about James and says he is not contemplating a Galway transfer and could be back playing for Kildare next year.

So that's you wrong again. You make it easy though which us nice.

premierstone · 04-01-2013 1:57pm

fixxer wrote: »

Good man cormac, maybe you should read the person who wrote the article instead of another journalist who wanted to spice the story up by adding the Galway link.

http://www.daraghoconchuir.ie/blog.php?all=all
Daragh, wrote the piece about James and says he is not contemplating a Galway transfer and could be back playing for Kildare next year.

So that's you wrong again. You make it easy though which us nice.

What are you rambling about all Cormac did was post the article as it appeared in the Examiner, your beef is with the editor of the examiner not cormac who like myself read the article in this mornings paper and took it at face value, are we to check the authenticity and source of every article we read in the national press??

full_irish · 04-01-2013 2:08pm

klairondavis wrote: »

Mikey Conway played at wing back in a recent challenge against Wicklow so that could potentially free up a place in the half forwards.

Quite like the sound of both Conway and Bolton bombing it forward from defence to be honest.

roy rodgers · 04-01-2013 3:14pm

I wouldn't be rating conway as a half back or a sub. I think he's more of a hair dresser than a footballer. He was very poor last year by all accounts.
I couldn't understand why Gary white wasn't getting his game last year over conway and now he's not around this year for kildare he's opted out.
He was very outstanding all through championship for sarsfields this year.

klairondavis · 04-01-2013 3:21pm

roy rodgers wrote: »

I wouldn't be rating conway as a half back or a sub. I think he's more of a hair dresser than a footballer. He was very poor last year by all accounts.
I couldn't understand why Gary white wasn't getting his game last year over conway and now he's not around this year for kildare he's opted out.
He was very outstanding all through championship for sarsfields this year.

Chalky is on the panel according to the Kildare GAA website. He's due to go on a tour of duty with the army at some stage so will probably be missing for a few months but there's no indication of when that will be.

That's a bit harsh on Conway. He did miss the guts of three years due to injury. It was a great achievement for him to play again, never mind get back on the county panel.

ArielAtom · 05-01-2013 7:36pm

Kildare hurling boss Sunderland returns http://t.co/FTUmHgii VIA GAA.ie #GAA

Good news for the hurlers.

klairondavis · 05-01-2013 7:45pm

ArielAtom wrote: »

Kildare hurling boss Sunderland returns http://t.co/FTUmHgii VIA GAA.ie #GAA

Good news for the hurlers.

+1

Max Power · 05-01-2013 7:59pm

roy rodgers wrote: »

I wouldn't be rating conway as a half back or a sub. I think he's more of a hair dresser than a footballer. He was very poor last year by all accounts.
I couldn't understand why Gary white wasn't getting his game last year over conway and now he's not around this year for kildare he's opted out.
He was very outstanding all through championship for sarsfields this year.

Agree, White should really have got more game time last year. He was excellent for Sarsfields all through the club championship.

Also agree as regards Conway, the guy would be more suited to soccer as they embrace the likes of him. Great foot passer but that's where his inter county abilities end.

rebel girl 15 · 05-01-2013 10:18pm

fixxer wrote: »

Good man cormac, maybe you should read the person who wrote the article instead of another journalist who wanted to spice the story up by adding the Galway link.

http://www.daraghoconchuir.ie/blog.php?all=all
Daragh, wrote the piece about James and says he is not contemplating a Galway transfer and could be back playing for Kildare next year.

So that's you wrong again. You make it easy though which us nice.

People should really check out the full story before posting and trying to make fun of other posters, which really is not nice, and not something that we like around here. Pity the examiner editor put Daragh's name on the byline, makes him look a little silly to seem to have two different opinions, hence the blog piece

roy rodgers · 06-01-2013 3:58pm

Just at the kildare match at the moment and its a fairly strong team out. 7-2 at half time.
Great news is that Gary white won't be heading off on duty till October now he's playing today.
Management called around to him on Thursday to ask him back. Well done Gary white this will be your year

full_irish · 06-01-2013 4:55pm

Kildare 1-13 Carlow IT 0-7 FT

klairondavis · 06-01-2013 5:30pm

Chalky availability offsets the loss of Jimmers to some extent. He could form a good midfield partnership with Daryl Flynn. Hopefully some of the younger forwards can step up. Good to see Cathal McNally showing well and Paddy Brophy getting a half off the bench. There'll probably be plenty of changes for Wednesday night in Athy.

roy rodgers · 06-01-2013 5:39pm

I taught they might of put toc in to the midfield to see how he works maybe we'll see it Wednesday night.
Nice to see some fresh faces in the forward line in the second half time but its a long way to go before championship time.
I hate to say this but is Johnston on the panel.

cormac halpin · 07-01-2013 10:08am

premierstone wrote: »

What are you rambling about all Cormac did was post the article as it appeared in the Examiner, your beef is with the editor of the examiner not cormac who like myself read the article in this mornings paper and took it at face value, are we to check the authenticity and source of every article we read in the national press??

Thanks for that premierstone, I find it abhorrent the way some posters carry on in here at times, attacking the poster and not the post. I trusted a National Newspaper to back up what I had been told in confidence. I see no reason to have to double check it.

rebel girl 15 wrote: »

People should really check out the full story before posting and trying to make fun of other posters, which really is not nice, and not something that we like around here. Pity the examiner editor put Daragh's name on the byline, makes him look a little silly to seem to have two different opinions, hence the blog piece

Agreed, and thank you for the post. Daragh should be careful what he allows his name to go over as well. He's a fine writer and well clued in, but it seems he got taken for a bit of a ride on this issue.

DARK-KNIGHT · 07-01-2013 10:25am

Wednesday should be good.. Great to see those jerseys gracing pitches in January

cormac halpin · 08-01-2013 9:22am

The dance continues, we've seen this one before.

Galway manager Alan Mulholland has not ruled out making a move for former Kildare star James Kavanagh.

But Mulholland, who said he was surprised to hear that Kavanagh may be transferring to a club in Galway, said that any move would need to work for the Tribesmen and the player himself.

Mulholland said he was in the dark over Kavanagh's intentions after the 27-year-old last week withdrew from Kieran McGeeney's Kildare squad.

Kavanagh is poised for a move to Milltown in Co Galway, having been educated at St Jarlath's College in Tuam where he won an All-Ireland colleges' title as a wing-back in 2002, on a team that included current Galway seniors Michael Meehan, Gary Sice, Alan Burke and Niall Coleman.

"To be honest, I haven't talked to him. That's basically it. I was as surprised as anyone to hear the news," said Mulholland.

On the back of the retirement of Padraic Joyce and Joe Bergin, speculation linking the Ballymore Eustace clubman, who has been twice nominated as an All Star, with a move to the Tribesmen has intensified.

But Mulholland claims he wouldn't entertain such a swoop unless Kavanagh could really make an impact on his squad.

"If he is going to make a difference then we'll have a look at him," he said. "But that has to be the criteria for us to do anything."

DARK-KNIGHT · 08-01-2013 11:45am

cormac halpin wrote: »

The dance continues, we've seen this one before.

The Kildare lads all wish James well. No point in posting that here stating "the dance continues"

No matter what James kavanagh does more luck to him. Whether he plays for Galway or returns to Kildare setup in a year or so..

James served us well!!! And best of luck to him

klairondavis · 08-01-2013 6:48pm

Kavanagh has no intention of playing inter county football for Galway from what I've heard.

thesultan · 08-01-2013 6:59pm

Thought he was very unlucky two years back not to get an allstar

Max Power · 08-01-2013 7:21pm

klairondavis wrote: »

Kavanagh has no intention of playing inter county football for Galway from what I've heard.

Not what I heard.

DARK-KNIGHT · 08-01-2013 7:28pm

Even if he does play for Galway that's his choice..

Great footballer shame he opted out this year..

roy rodgers · 08-01-2013 9:45pm

We were actually lucky to have him last year because this has been on the cards for a few years now.
The lads from ballymore were telling me nearly two years ago that he was building a house in galway. So more luck to him i would love to see him play for galway if he's not playing for kildare.
Great player probably didn't get enough games last year i heard him and mcgeeney had a fallen out because he had gone to oz this time last year and wasn't around for the start of the seasons training.
Best of luck James but you will always be a lily at heart.

DARK-KNIGHT · 08-01-2013 11:12pm

roy rodgers wrote: »

We were actually lucky to have him last year because this has been on the cards for a few years now.
The lads from ballymore were telling me nearly two years ago that he was building a house in galway. So more luck to him i would love to see him play for galway if he's not playing for kildare.
Great player probably didn't get enough games last year i heard him and mcgeeney had a fallen out because he had gone to oz this time last year and wasn't around for the start of the seasons training.
Best of luck James but you will always be a lily at heart.

couldnt agree more all i wish him is the very best

fixxer · 09-01-2013 12:35am

He said himself in an interview in the Nationalist this week, he has no desire to play for Galway. Here is exactly what he said " There is nothing there with Galway at all. It is obviously going to be said because I'm moving to Galway and leaving Kildare but there is nothing in it at all".

He just needed a break with work and family and hopefully he will be back next year. Read the interview he could not be more clear.

There you go straight from the horses mouth, not a journalist who wants to get extra readers or lads gossiping.

klairondavis · 09-01-2013 1:02am

I think it's probable that he will commit again next year. There's every chance McGeeney won't be around beyond this summer.

It's a blow that he won't be an option this year in an area where we're not exactly flush with talent but I think there are many other players who would be bigger losses - Doyle, Foley and Leper are three that immediately spring to mind.

I'd wish him all the best in whatever he does. The commitment these lads give the county is savage. The days of Johnny Crofton, Davy Dalton, Glenn Ryan, Anthony Rainbow and the likes playing well into their thirties is long gone. It's a credit to Johnny Doyle that he is still playing to such a high standard heading into his fourteenth season. I don't think we'll see careers of that length again which is a shame.

klairondavis · 09-01-2013 1:06am

cont'd..... not forgetting Ronan Sweeney too who is also in his fourteenth season. I'd be surprised if Dermot Earley makes an appearance this year but I would love to be proven wrong.

roy rodgers · 09-01-2013 9:42pm

Half time in athy kildare 0-9 dit 0-5

bruschi · 09-01-2013 9:56pm

ArielAtom wrote: »

Kildare hurling boss Sunderland returns http://t.co/FTUmHgii VIA GAA.ie #GAA

Good news for the hurlers.

havent seen any reports on his re appointment and the issues he had being sorted. Anyone know if anything has been said in Kildare about it? Only reason I ask is because there was a lengthy piece in the Wexford papers when he retired and things didnt sound good.

http://www.wexfordpeople.ie/sport/hurling/sunderland-steps-down-as-kildare-hurling-manager-3345010.html

FORMER Oulart-The Ballagh supremo Willie Sunderland has quit as Kildare Senior hurling manager.

Sunderland, who took charge in 2011 and guided the team to a Division 2B title in 2012, announced his decision to the players in the dressing-room following a training session before Christmas. His entire backroom team have also quit their posts.

'I don't feel too good about it. I feel really sad and very sorry for the 25-30 players that are putting in a serious effort for me and for Kildare,' he said in an interview in the 'Sunday Independent'.

'But there have been cracks in the whole link with the County Board for the past few months and they have widened to an extent that I feel I'm just not in control of the team any more.

'We have had serious issues with basic stuff, like the availability of physios, pitches and trying to get challenge matches before we make a step up and played the likes of Westmeath, Wicklow, Laois, Kerry and Derry in Division 2A. One of my players got inujured at a Sunday morning training session and I didn't even have an ice-pack to give him, never mind a physio.

'We have been told that all county teams have to train together - hurling and football - on the same night and share physios. That's fine, but we've been designated pitch number four at Hawkfield. There are floodlights there, but the problem is they are not attached to the generator.'

Sunderland confirmed that his fellow selectors, Mattie Dowd and Don McSweeney, and coach Bertie Sherlock have all stepped down too.

The Lilywhites Board has been struggling to fight an ongoing financial crisis, with their running deficit rising to over €700,000.

The county has already been subject to a financial overseer, the former Munster Council Secretary, Simon Moroney, since April last as part of the conditions for a €300,000 cash advance from Croke Park.

'I'm a reasonable man, I know we're in very tough recessionary times and I know the County Board is in a crisis with finances,' added Sunderland.

'But from what I can see, €75,000 has been made available to Kildare hurling teams in 2013. I have to try and prepare a team to play league and championship out of that, and the Minors and Under-21s have to be looked after too.

'The bottom line is, we're being cut, cut, cut to the bone. And the future of Kildare hurling, if there is to be one, deserves better.'

if nothing else, he is a good man to have there, and hopefully will bring Kildare hurling on another step. Some of the work done by clubs like Celbridge too should be acknowledged, and it would be disappointing to see finance problems from other areas ruining hurling there.

Max Power · 09-01-2013 10:09pm

Full Time: Kildare 0-12 0-8 DIT

full_irish · 09-01-2013 11:01pm

FionnMcCool87 wrote: »

Full Time: Kildare 0-12 0-8 DIT

What was the team like this evening? Pretty much full strength again or did the young 'uns get a chance to impress?

Max Power · 09-01-2013 11:15pm

full_irish wrote: »

What was the team like this evening? Pretty much full strength again or did the young 'uns get a chance to impress?

Connolly, Lyons, Foley, McGrillen, Bolton, Conway, P Kelly, White, P O'Neill, Flanagan, McNally, M O'Flaherty, R Kelly, O'Connor and Daniel Flynn.

Michael Konstantin, Johnny Doyle, Podge Fogarty, Eoghan O'Flaherty and Hugh Lynch all came on as subs.

Scorers: Conway 0-3, Cathal McNally 0-2, John Doyle 0-2, P O'Neill 0-1, Daniel Flynn 0-1, Emmet Bolton 0-1, T O'Connor 0-1, Peter Kelly 0-1.

Gary White was sent off.

DARK-KNIGHT · 09-01-2013 11:20pm

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